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Abbeybailey:
Don't mind the Cosmic man. I don't know what he was smoking when he made that stupid statement. That is the effect of watching Racist Faux News. The problem with the pig a*s lickers is that they lie just like the sociophathic liar they love. when all the returns are in from California, there's a probability of Democrats winning 40 House seats and that to me is a blue Wave. MORE woes to come in 2020 for the clueless one.

Lucas, don't play with FIRE! You obfuscated my time peeping machine and gave me a cheap Chicago glasses with Mueller's Russian gate blood on it, and now, I can't find my cosmic rhythm anymore. What have you done, Lucas, I must have compensation for this encroachment.

gesundheit:
How far with your seven GOP sits predicted by the cosmic mirror?

Schwartzkof, pardon my time travel glasses, they were obfuscated by Mr. Lucasbalo, hence I couldn't game thie mid-term correctly. Very sorry for that.

budaatum:
Except, it's in the context. If Trump were fighting for American independence, his nationalism would be no different to those you mentioned, but since he ain't, well....

Fighting for American independence? Common man, the independence of a nation or person is not only to be freed from the rule of another nation or person overseeing you. You can be dependent in many ways and also strive to become independent on many ways, depending on the circumstances you find yourself.

budaatum:
There's one problem. It's that you can dress things up anyhow you like but you can't deny historical and shared meanings and context, especially when used or understood by some in that context!

Nationalism is further oriented towards developing and maintaining a single national identity based on shared, social characteristics, such as culture and language, religion and politics, and a belief in a shared and singular common ancestry (i.e., outdated concepts of race and nationality).

"A single national identity based on shared, social characteristics, such as culture and language, religion and politics, and a belief in a shared and singular common ancestry" means, not everyone. Unless he takes the time to include those who might feel they aren't included, which some claim he's done the exact opposite of.

Here's [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rally_%28France%29?wprov=sfla1]info[/url] about France's nationalist party. And you'd find here a list of active nationalist parties in Europe. Please click on the links in the links to educate yourself on what Nationalism implies. You might understand why some people worry when they hear the word. But if you knew this already, please state your race, for the record. I'd understand if you were part of Trumps in-group.

It should however be noted that Americans tend to have definition of words that vary to meanings in Europe, so Trump might not mean 'Nationalist' in the classical European sense where the word is synonymous with racism, Hitler and far rightism. I'm open to being educated on this.

Itchie just gave you a resounding answer, so I won't waste precious time writing long epistle. Like Itchie said, Gandhi was a nationalists, Earnest Shonekan, Herbert Macaulay and the likes of George Washington were nationalists, how come they didn't look like Hitler? Today, these people are celebrated all over the world for their strong and unwavering nationalistic ideas. You guys always paint a picture of Hitler when looking at nationalism. Isn't that bias and stereotypical? If Macron had referred to "extreme nationalism" and stuck with it, rather than trying to make the term "nationalism" exclusively evil, that would have been a different topic all together. But he did not. What he was actually saying is that the term nationalis is exclusively evil, and that is where I call his assertion wrong and unintelligent. If we are to go by his summation, then George Washington is evil, Herbert Macaulay is evil, Azikiwe is evil, Nkruma, Gandhi, and more, are evil, right?

Just accept the fact that the term is subjective and shouldn't be used exclusively. You must also accept the fact that all nations are driven by nationalistic ideas. Anyone who tells you otherwise is deceiving you. No nation on this planet will want to serve your interest first before his, and you know that. Everyone is fighting for its own interest, and that includes France as well. So let's stop painting another picture.

wirinet:
Egocentricity is indeed a huge mental disease. You have world leaders, writers, scientists and intellectuals define the difference between nationalism and patriotism, citing the dangers of nationalism, and someone who has no achievement in his life will term them ignorant. Are you even qualified to wipe the ground Macron walks on?

Here are other definition of Nationalism by other intellectual greats;
“Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. Both words are normally used in so vague a way that any definition is liable to be challenged, but one must draw a distinction between them, since two different and even opposing ideas are involved. By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.”
― George Orwell

Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.- Albert Einstein
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/albert_einstein_107012

Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first. - Charles de Gaulle
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/charles_de_gaulle_111702

even Merriam-Webster dictionary quoted by obixcel makes a distinction between Patriotism and Nationalism;

These two words may have shared a distinct sense in the 19th century, but they appear to have grown apart since. Or rather, it would be more accurate to say that only nationalism has grown apart, since the meaning of patriotism has remained largely unchanged. There are still obvious areas of overlap: we define patriotism as “love for or devotion to one’s country” and nationalism in part as “loyalty and devotion to a nation.” But the definition of nationalism also includes “exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups.” This exclusionary aspect is not shared by patriotism. -https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/patriotism-vs-nationalism

Trump himself acknowledged the negative connotation of the word nationalism when he described himself as a nationalist;


I understand that IPOB are Nationalists, that is why hatred of others take precedence to love of themselves.

More babel. Anybody who claim to be a scholar can come forward to give his own thought on any word or phrase, but such independent definitions doesn't denigrate from the fact that the word or phrase concerned has its natural meaning to begin with.

Just as someone can define a knife to be a tool for cutting through food items, another scholar can come forward to define it as a tool used in killing people during a fight. While that is true, does it mean that the purpose of using a knife is strictly for killing? This is the mindset of the scholars you quoted, and also the idiotic postulations the Kid president of France was trying to pass on to the US president, and I find that very stupid and unintelligent.

Macron fails to know that when a word or phrase has a compound meaning, you cannot use it exclusively or try to make it an absolute. Let that sink in.

While Patriotism has been around for 150 years before the use of nationalism, the latter's original meaning naturally correlate with that of Patriotism. Nationalism came into popularity in the early 19th century, and it originally means strong devotion and loyalty to one's country.

It was not until the 20th century when matters of political sovereignty and battle for self-determination takes central stage that some scholars started introducing different conceptual definitions to the original meaning of the term nationalism. But it never denies the fact that it shares same original idea with Patriotism.

Therefore, the assumption that fighting for the right of one's country is radical nationalism is, I must say, sheer fallacy, baseless and puerile.

You forget to mention that the Macron you are talking about is the president of a country that thinks its language and culture is better than all others. I guess you know nothing about the French policy of Association and the Policy of Assimilation used by colonial France on Africa. All colonial rule are rooted under the principles of radical nationalism, if we are to go by that term.

France and Britain are grandpatrons of nationalism, but i guess you don't know that because, when liberals are involved, nationalism can only mean "white nationalism", especially where Trump is the object of discussion. Pathetic thinking.

Every nation on earth has a presumably notion of nationalism, whether you like it or not. The Germans will forever see themselves as the most innovative people on earth, the British think they live a way of life that is unrivaled anywhere in the world, while the Jews think they are the most perculial set of people on the planet, even as the United States thinks its democracy and way of life trumps all others in the world, and so will do anything necessary to project the American dream even to the shores of other nations. All these are driven by Nationalistic ideas interwoven in Patriotism.

So for Macron to attempt lecturing the leader of another country about nationalism, when himself preside over one of the world's most nationalistic countries, makes him a hypocrite, or simply because he doesn't understand a jot of what the two terms actually meant from their original usage.

You can take that to the bank.

obixcel:
Patriotism & nationalism overlap greatly as political ideas arising from love of country. They both compliment each other and neither are enemies to themselves. Only globalists try to hand-twist it to make it look bad. Almost every country in the world is formed by Nationalism and preserved by Patriotism.

Some folks are deluded beyond redemption. They will do anything and say anything to beat home their warp beliefs and deluded ideological postulations.

budaatum:
When people accuse Trump of Nationalism, they mean an extreme form of patriotism marked by a feeling of superiority over other countries.

Can't say I can point to any evidence of extreme patriotism on Trumps part myself, despite his tariffs and wall, which may seem extreme to some. Time, I guess, will tell.

So trying to prevent illegals from entry your country illegally is extreme patriotism? It is on this thread I also learnt that when a president shake the hands of another president, he is legitimizing the actions of that president. It is now I believe that TDS is REAL!

God have mercy, for they know not what they do or say.

wirinet:
President Macron today 11th November 2018
With Trump seated before him, President Macron says, "Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism. Macron explained further "By saying 'our interests first and the others don't matter !'...we erase what a nation hold dearest...its moral values."

What a babel! Patriotism is the brain child of Nationalism. I guess Macron or manhood don't know that becausr he wasn't around when the founding fathers of different nations erected their national foundation and identity on the solid rocks of nationalistic ideas, which defines patriotism. It is even more pathetic to know that he doesn't understand the meanings of the two terms: patriotism and nationalism, yet he is the leader of a country. No wonder Europe is always a perpetual errand boy for Uncle Sam.

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Abbeybailey:
Maybe You need new glasses. Whatever happens to your Red Atlantic Red Wave. Your lord Trump will hear it when the new Congress is sworn in January. Nothing can move forward without licking the behind of Speaker Pelosi. Will be teaching you and your friends politics 101 American style.

It's good to see you happy a bit for once. Ever since the Trump ascension, you have been so embittered to the point of embarrassing yourself most times, dear Lucas.

Anyway, although you can't call it a Bluewave nor a Redwave, because the Dems lost some governorship strongholds and also allow GOP to add more seats to their Senate armory. But winning back the House is certainly going to change things from the usual. I foresee more wars and chaos in American politics come January.

So is a mixture of good and bad news for both sides. But the real winners are the forces in Europe. That's my take for now.

gesundheit:
God bless the progressive values, we are sending train load of women to Congress, two Muslim women plus openly gay folks. This is the America we all yarn for. Not the white nationalist cult group.

Gay folks and Muslim women.... This is worth celebrating....

Cc: Lucasbalo, what happens now in January?

garetz:
This is not a blue avalanche, it's not even close to that. The GOP is increasing their majority in the senate and winning majority of the governor's races. The dems are outperforming the GOP only in the house. An avalanche is what happened in 2010 definitely not this

I guess the definition of Bluewave to my friends is Dems winning back the House why loosing more of the senate. But that's alright for my fellow countrymen hustling in the states.

Abbeybailey:
Obviously You don't know anything about the elections here. The Blue wave is Democrats winning the House of Representatives because that's where the financial and other laws in America begins before going to the Senate and President for his John Hancock. We will pick at least 32 to 38 seats in the House and your racist idol is wetting his pants in the Oval Office as we speak. Things are going good for Democrat watching ABC News as I am typing now.

Still not seeing it dear Lucas. I thought the Bluewave you guys so much envisaged would sweep the Noth houses, now you are limiting it to the House of Reps alone? That's interesting.

Abbeybailey:
Obviously You don't know anything about the elections here. The Blue wave is Democrats winning the House of Representatives because that's where the financial and other laws in America begins before going to the Senate and President for his John Hancock. We will pick at least 32 to 38 seats in the House and your racist idol is wetting his pants in the Oval Office as we speak. Things are going good for Democrat watching ABC News as I am typing now.

Still not seeing it dear Lucas.

Abbeybailey:
Let me use my Spanish slogan for You, Loco Loco. Go find a Spanish/English dictionary to know the meaning.

Alright! But you agree the Bluewave ain't forthcoming?

Abbeybailey:
A lot of the racist pig lovers will be in mourning tomorrow when Americans of good conscience start taking their country back from a Divider in Chief. What unite us is bigger that what divides us. People are coming out in drove all over the Fruited Plains . Both young people and White Suburban women ( Soccer Mums ) are filling the polling booths and that's a good vibe for us on the Blue Team.

Hey Lucas, the fruited plains will become like the mount before Zerrubabel: not by might, not by crowd, but by the determinate counsel of the ALMIGHTY. I see Redblood stains upon this thread.....and when I asked the voice that spake with me what meaneth this, It Echoes... "they were milked from the Bluewaves of democratic losers ship".

It's over Lucas...

budaatum:
I don't think elections in America are determined by "cosmic mirrors", though I might be wrong. We'll find out soon I guess.

That's right. I like the way you leave it open because you knew quite well there are forces beyond our controls that governs the universe up there in the sky. Just the same way the Reps shock them in 2016, same thing will repeat itself over and over again till Trump'time is done and dusted.

Here is proof that the cosmic order determines elections in America.

Kim Clement prophesying about Donald Trump 2007 - YouTube


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFfFtq1fljY

Please, read the comments and learn more. Here is another proof.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irrbuaiUMVw

The Simpsons.


Now you know that the spiritual controls the physical.

Those who ate dreaming a Bluewave will be disappointed come tomorrow,. It was based on facts that I gamed the outcome...

Let's wait and see....

Abbeybailey:
I bet you know more than i do about America from your creeks in the Delta. A clown passing lies on Republikkkans gaining seven seats in the Congress while the elections are still going on. Typical Republikkkan supporter. Y'all will be hush when the results comes out that Americans don't want to be divided by Race, Color, Gender and Wealth.

Take it easy Lucas, it hasn't come to this yet. But, it's happening now as we speak. Again, the cosmic have spoken.

Abbeybailey:
That's how delusional some of these guys are. He knew the results why the voting is still going on. These are the same guys that worships the vile racist piece of human crap. The joker must be thinking it's Nigeria where you know the outcome of elections before casting votes. Would love to see the reactions of the racist pig lovers tomorrow on Nairaland after the shellacking today. Meanwhile, just voted in my precinct in Oak Park, Illinois and the place was packed . @TEAM BLUE.

Lucas, it's over. Can't you see it...?

budaatum:
Where did they add these seats please?

We have eyes that look into the cosmic mirror...

There are times when I feel sorry for how people could be so gullible and refusing to think for themselves. So many Dems crackpots have refused to see that the more the media hate trump, the more they are making him popular.

The same mistakes they did in the general election is what they have repeated again in the mid-term. By using all sorts of tactics to slam Trump personality, instead of focusing on campaign based on national issues, they actually helped him to gain popularity, because the average American who is on the receiving end of everything that happens to the nation knows the truth and can feel the reality.

And what is the reality? It is that the economy is roaring, jobs are soaring, wages are climbing, taxes are down, Nuclear threat from North Korea is almost over, there is a new trade deal with Mexico and Canada, and many more. But the deluded folks we have here don't see this things because they are blind to reality. It is only the bunch of Nigeria migrants we have here that refuse to see things the way they are. Until people learn that all powers belong to God, and that all governments derived their validity from God (even though He doesn't approved of all their deeds), many will continue to fight Trump in vain, not knowing what they're even fighting against.

If people on this thread don't learn from what has happened in this mid-term election, then they can never in their life time learn anything, especially when they have to trust or not trust the media and the polls.

Trump may not be the best, but he is certainly winning and will do so, until he has fulfilled his share of the cosmic order for America and the world over.

Adieu Bluewave dreamers.

What happened to the Bluewave? Instead of loosing the House, the Republicans just added another 7 seats... What happened to polls and half-baked punditry cup of tea? Dems are bunch of losers....

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Martinez19:
Angela Merkel is a disgrace to her people. Liberals want illegal immigrants because the illegals vote for democrats because of welfare. Factory and business owners love illegal immigrants because they would work for lesser pay and this is a blow to the average struggling and low earning Americans. Liberals love power not America. Liberals are evil.

That's exactly why the Brits voted Brexit. Immigrants serves the sole economic and political interests of right-wing liberals on all fronts. Hence, they will do everything necessary to keep the borders wide open like a no man's land.

Majority of the people on this thread hating Trump are migrants, particularly from Nigeria. Now you can understand why he can never be good, no matter what he does. But these same folks would be glad to recieve and did vote for a woman who gloried in the killing of one of African leader and the destruction of one of Africa's country that serve no direct nor strategic threat to the United States. That's man for you.

The Israeli army didn't attack anywhere in Syria. It was a lie by some group to save face. At the moment, Netanyahu is still looking Forward to meeting Putin as the only way out.

Zoharariel:
Latest News: Israel and the US have sent a secret military delegation to Ukraine to train against and test Russian-made S-300 missile defense systems.

According to multiple reports circulating in Israeli media, Israel and the US have sent a secret military delegation to Ukraine to train against and test Russian-made S-300 missile defense systems. According to reports, servicemen of the Ukrainian military instructed their US and Israeli counterparts on the capabilities of the air defense system as well as allowed US and Israeli specialists to test it in various possible scenarios.

According to reports, F-15 warplanes have trained against the S-300 in the framework of the Clear Sky 2018 international exercise which includes Israeli and US pilots. It wasn’t immediately clear if the Israeli pilots were flying or merely observing from the ground. However, on October 16, a US pilot and his Ukrainian counterpart died in the crash of a Ukrainian Su-27 warplane.

The Real News: U.S Pilot killed in Ukraine's SU-27 jet crash while training against the Soviet-era S-300.

The bastards covered up the news.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UIrqpkodCs

Bunch of jokers. Don't they know that Russia must have preempted this move, knowing the countries that operate the S 300 and the ones most likely to make secret concessions to the west, for which the UkroNazi is chief? It is really foolish of them to have expected Russia to give the same class of S300 Ukraine has to their Syrian ally.

From all indications, it is very clear that the west are still unable to provide answers to the S300 threat. The US even have a unit of the S300 they bought from Croatia many years ago, and is located in Nevada as we speak. So it is normal that they must have studied it extensively for years. They and Israel have also trained many times against the S300 in Greece, which operates some units. However, from what is going on now, it is very clear they are still unable to convincingly counter the the threat pose by the S300. If they have a robust way of beating the system already, they wouldn't be shuffling to Ukraine to train against the S300.

To make matters worse, the model sold to Syria are the modified versions capable of 300 miles. This is the real reason why the IDF is unable to breach the Syrian sky anymore.

It is even more pathetic when you consider that the F-35 they so much boast about actually features a Russian Technology made by Yakelov of Yak company.

America now knows that when it comes to rocket technology, they are just learning how to fix screws. The Russians are king when it comes to missile technology. No wonder the US is threatening sanctions on any country that is buying Russian made SAM'S.

Pathetic.

Is now a whole full month and no attacks on Syria Government forces by Israel.... Wonders. After so much chest-beating of destroying the S-300 on arrival, they have suddenly gone cold like ice water.

stanech:
George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were also nationalists......

I guess he didn't know that.

TheShopKeeper:
This isn’t suprising – it can be very hard to make a defamation claim. Daniels’ claim regarding the invalidity of the hush agreement is much stronger.
The Judge’s reasoning that Daniels is a ‘political adversary’ because she said Cohen paid her for her silence to influence the election.

Now on the issue of the alleged defamation made by DT. Not only would Stormy Daniels have to prove that what was said was false, she'd have to prove that DT knew it was false or he made his false claim with reckless disregard for the truth. That second part makes it hard to win a libel suit.
Also does anyone think the Judge would side with a woman who made her living in the sex trade? Talk about preconceived notions. Well of course the Judge did!

This dismissal only affects the rather ad-hoc-afterthought case of ‘defamation’ - one that never had much chance and was obviously filed for strategic reasons. Stormy Daniels’ real case against Trump has not been dismissed – which is paying her hush money during an election period.

...not in the history of the US under any government, has any President have more legal suits against Donald Trump in different courts across the US - both State and Federal...

Per the bolded, It is obvious you don't understand a single thing about the workings of law, and the doctrine of legal reasoning that guides the courts on how they interpret cases and arrived at a ruling.

Stormy's case was dead ab initio (from the beginning). Any libel suit that premise on bribery is always 90 percent dead on arrival because the entire burden of proving the guilt of defamation as claimed by the plaintiff against the defendant is almost too heavy a burden to discharged, considering that the alleging party appears to have been consensual at some point in the whole debacle leading to the primary fact in issue.

The element of consent is always a major focus for the courts when drawing inference from various facts surrounding the primary fact in issue. Once they discover any hint of consent at some point in the course of events leading to the fact in issue, especially where the person alleging is of consensual age, the courts innate rule of legal reasoning comes in to play, and the chances of the alleging party succeeding is almost next to zero where the issue of payment is involved. The legal reasoning behind such position is that you cannot profit from your own wrong when the cards starts crumbling.

So as the name implies, Stormy's case was one hell of a case full of storms that's only headed for failure from day one because;

1. She has nothing to proof and buttress her case

2. Even if she does, she can't prove that DT was knowingly and recklessly being false; hence her inability to shift the burden of proof on DT, and

3. There is the issue of consent at some point, giving her nature of job.

From the beginning, her case was a massive failure, a disaster that should be called "hurricane Stormy", the hooker who have to pay to get laid.

At the bolded, what do you mean by her real case isn't dismissed yet? Are you serious? Ask yourself; what were the factors that necessitated the case for the alleged hush payment? Isn't that what the court just dissected and casted away like a fly in a glass of drinking water? So on what premise would her case for the suppose hush payment lies now? You tell me. Or is there a rule or law in the US legal jurisdiction that says you can treat a case without a fact in issue? Liberal democracy is indeed a record breaker.

Face it, with that decision, her case and whatever related to the hush money is lost already. You even stated the obvious on how slim her chance of winning such a case represents, yet you still believe her "realp case" is not lost yet. That's wishful thinking, friend.

But that's not all. The bad news is that these cases are creating a precedent that would have far reaching effects on other cases both now and in the future. As much as DT is concerned, any case that is brought against him in court would most likely be viewed by Judges as "politically weaponized cases", and the likelihood that such cases will be thrown out by the courts is increasing, as Trump keeps winning and the precedent keeps mounting.

From all angles, it's a dead end for desperate liberals. The more they try, the more they keep making Trump famous. The ediots don't even know they are actually aiding his popularity and actively campaigning for him with all these senseless and baseless accusations.

Very pathetic.

obixcel:
Your feelings hurt, I understand


Oh wait!! I have a suggestion....Go date Stormy Daniels

I thought is the caller that has to pay the hooker, how Stormy Daniels is the one paying for being screwed? Liberals fantasy are worse than the dream of Satan making it to Heaven. With the way Trump is wining cases, right, left and center, it's going to be a bloodbath come November 6. I see liberals blood on this thread.

By the way, where is Mueller? It's approaching 3 years now and still no evidence of collusion. Yet some liberals with their self inflected Trump Derangement Syndrome keep hoping for a miracle to happen.

Until people learn to see beyond the facade of bias and illogical reasoning , they will continue to be sacrificed on the altar of racism, lies, and propaganda.

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