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Foreign AffairsRe: President Donald Trump Impeachment Updates by Appleyard(m): 2:31am On Dec 28, 2019
themonk:
You are an idiot, haven't Trump been saying No collision in the Mueller report since?

You idiots find it convinent to refer to the Mueller report when you think of collision but you idiots cannot also see it said there was interference in favour of trump.
Please, let logic be your thinking cap. If the Russians interfared to swing the votes in favor of Trump, how come Hilary Clinton ended up winning the popular vote by more than 2 MILLIONS, and Trump only got elected through the backdoor created by the Electoral College? Does it make sense to you?

I doubt it does.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 4:14pm On Dec 27, 2019
Timbuktuo:
Defendants do not need to be in court for a trial to occur. In fact, they do not need to say a word throughout the trial. You don’t have to believe me, but you’re free to ask any competent lawyer.

Secondly, the burden of proof is upon the plaintiff. The defendant is supposed to cooperate as much as they can with investigations, not assist the accusers to prove their case. If I have been accused of murder, I will do my best to not be convicted of murder. My duty to myself is survival and furthering my interests and welfare. If you have a case against me, you better be able to prove it because I will not prove it for you. If you cannot prove your case beyond reasonable doubt then the court pronounces me ‘not guilty’. Whether you think I am guilty or not is the most irrelevant piece of information on earth. Your opinion is less valuable than faeces.

As far as the law is concerned Donald Trump is ‘not guilty’ of collusion. You might think he is, but that is your personal opinion and problem. The laws has not been able to prove him guilty.

C’est fini.
Let the law speak for them brother. It is only on this thread that people convict someone of a crime without proving their case. This thread is pack full with venomous illogical thinkers. When you hear people implying that it's the duty of a defendant to prove the case of the plaintiff for him, then you know sound reasoning has lost its meaning.

It's very pathetic.
BusinessRe: EXCLUSIVE : How To Make Level 2 Seller On Fiverr In A Month As A Nigerian Seller by Appleyard(m): 1:29am On Nov 16, 2019
proeast:
I have never seen a more frustrating country than Nigeria. It still baffles me how freelancers are humiliated by EFCC. For God's sake, Freelancers ought to be celebrated in any sane society. People that export their skills to earn forex for the country, fly it's flag before the global community which earns the country respect yet they end up being stigmatized by both the authorities as well as the ignorant public. Well, you really need to get a physical business you can be attending to alongside your freelancing work. Luckily for me, I was already in business before I joined freelancing. I leave home as early as 7am (that may be very late for our dear Lagosians but i'm in Owerri), get to my outlet in less than 15 minutes and withdraw to my freelancing work while my employee would be attending to customers. Even at that people still insinuate that I'm into yahoo just because I drive a flashy car and carry laptop bag in my back seat.
Try and establish a business bro, though it might be difficult for people living in Lagos considering that you might end up losing precious man hours on traffic.
On my own, I try to educate people a lot that not everyone that works with a laptop 24/7 is a yahoo guy. We really need to keep enlightening the public until it sinks in.
Thanks a lot. That's what I'm planning to do after my child dedication.
LiteratureRe: A List Of Freelancers To Avoid - Writers And Outsourcers by Appleyard(m): 9:52am On Oct 21, 2019
Blazing12345:
Are you human at all. someone wrote 15 articles for you and you refused to pay a dime, so all the articles were badly done according to you, how about the other writer(Pscooliz) that wrote 50 articles for you, I still can't believe that, you ran away with someone sweat( 50 articles) and you became rude and proud about it.

I thought on my thread you wrote that the reason you have these multiple monikers is because of you losing your emails to each of these scam accounts, you have just used Kalet5 and Flambo020 in just a space of 3 days. oh suddenly you have recover the emails to them .

Writers on narialand are so incompetent, then Mr or Mrs competent, why don't you write these your hell- bound articles yourself. You think it only here you will practice your scam, God will push you to where the devil lives. As I said before now your resting home will be jail.

just continue inugo.
50 articles? Blood of Jesus. He better go and make amend otherwise, the future wont be good for him.
BusinessRe: EXCLUSIVE : How To Make Level 2 Seller On Fiverr In A Month As A Nigerian Seller by Appleyard(m): 8:51am On Oct 17, 2019
SoNature:
You were making sense until you got to the emboldened.

Don't take the position that someone else is supposed to be occupying because of frivolities.

If you have earned enough money from freelancing, you should be thinking of creating a job because that's what freelancing is about.

Anyway, I want to start my business and keep someone there. Whenever I am lonely, I will go and chill out in the shop.

There is no denying the fact that freelancing makes people recluses. On top of that, people also have misconception about working from home.

For instance, in my compound, those who are not close to me think I am a Yahoo guy because I don't go anywhere, yet I live a good life.

But I would rather start a business than return to 9-5..God forbid!
My friend, so I'm not alone.

Everyone in my area think I am a Yahoo boy simply because I don't go out to work and yet I run the generator every day.

Man, you need to see how people stares at me each time I pass by. The stigma is enough for someone to want to quit and look for another job. But in a country like Nigeria where Jobs are scarce like gold, one have to make do with the stigma and loneliness that comes with freelancing. I think that is the price we have to pay for being economically independent.

I have learned to manage the loneliness by going out to play scrabble when I feel tired.
Foreign AffairsRe: Washington Dumps Its Kurdish Proxies (temporary Puppets) As Ankara And Damascus by Appleyard(m): 8:04am On Oct 17, 2019
sunboy:
Well 99.99% of Americans ... I don’t know where you get that statistics from but majority still don’t understand why Americans are sent to Saudi too
Gbam!
Foreign AffairsRe: Washington Dumps Its Kurdish Proxies (temporary Puppets) As Ankara And Damascus by Appleyard(m): 8:02am On Oct 17, 2019
kophschmerzenii:
Hey you loser, the major reason you shill for Trump is to be the lifetime bittch of your lord and personal savior Putin. Guess what doorknob, Americans are voting out that loser and getting our country back from that mooron and his BFF in moscow.
grin My friend, can't someone state the obvious anymore? How is Trump the lifetime puppet of Putin?

Oh, you have switched to "voting" not "impeachment" anymore? cool You dems can be very funny at times.

Anyway, let's wait till 2020. The cosmic always knows best.cool
Foreign AffairsRe: Washington Dumps Its Kurdish Proxies (temporary Puppets) As Ankara And Damascus by Appleyard(m): 7:54am On Oct 17, 2019
CTPlayer:
John Kerry does not work for the US Government anymore. US forces were mainly advisory, working with Kurds to kill ISIS.
US military has not engaged in the Syrian war. Maybe Obama/Hillary thought Assad "has to go" but they didn't do much about it.
Seems Trump could care less who is in charge of Syria, same for 99.99% of Americans.
It was US policy to disrupt and divide Syria. Uncle Sam was never in Syria to fight ISIS. The Kurds were just a means to an end, but the designated endgame failed largely due to overwhelming Russian and Iranian support for The Assad regime. The emergence of Trump finally decimated that endgame, and for the first time saw the US ACTUALLY target and bombed an already out-of-steam units of Isis in Manbij and few other places. That is one of the primary reasons the establishment hate him so much. They tried everything to stop him from pulling out until now. Turkey gave him that perfect excuse. Trump may seem erratic but he is very cunning. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: Washington Dumps Its Kurdish Proxies (temporary Puppets) As Ankara And Damascus by Appleyard(m): 7:37am On Oct 17, 2019
kemicalreaction:
Great Analysis, I pray it doesn't turn to that embarassed
Yes. Any human being that meant well for the world would hope so and start praying now that Assad and Erdogan shouldn't start a shooting match.

But the prospect aren't looking good at all.

Erdogan has vowed that it won't stop until it create the safe zone it wanted in Syria. Meanwhile, Syrian forces are advancing toward the line of contact on multiple fronts. It is now more than likely that there would be clashes. I hope Russia prevents it by every means as they promised. Russian security police are already patrolling some of the line of contacts.
Foreign AffairsRe: Washington Dumps Its Kurdish Proxies (temporary Puppets) As Ankara And Damascus by Appleyard(m): 10:06am On Oct 16, 2019
kemicalreaction:
Na WWIII be dat na shocked Tufiakwa
Of course, we hope it doesn't get to that point. But given the unpredictable nature of events in the MidEast and the Med, anything is possible, especially when you have two stubborn goats - Sultan Erdogan and Twitter warlord Trump - on the oppossing end of the geopolitical spectrum.

Besides, things will get even out of hand if Turkish and Syrian forces started shooting at each other.

Though Russia has vowed to prevent such from happening, if it does happen, it could lead to further escalation in the region. In fact, it would put NATO and Russia in difficult positions in that, while most European nations are currently kicking against Turkey for the ongoing invasion, it is still a NATO member, and that would put NATO's Article 5 to the litmus test, especially if Iran get deeply involved in providing more ground troops and weaponry for Syria, and Ankara starts taking serious hits deep into Turkey.

On the other hand, should there be a serious engagement and Syrian forces are taking serious beating, Russia which is tied by law to protect Syria will either have to act by taking out Turkish planes and jamming their communications, which means losing all economic ties with Turkey, or sit confused on the fence and loose everything they have worked for since 2014.

Believe me: if there is any place in the world capable of causing World War 3 now than ever, it is Syria.
Foreign AffairsRe: Washington Dumps Its Kurdish Proxies (temporary Puppets) As Ankara And Damascus by Appleyard(m):
Edited.

The fly that has no one to advise him will always follow the corpse into the grave, and that is exactly what has happened to the Kurds. Now let them learn the bitter way from their folly.

As much as I hate to say it, I must admit that Turkey gamed the situation perfectly. The S-400 deal with Russia wasn't just to get back at the EU for not allowing Ankara to join the Zengen Immigration zone, nor to antagonize the US for failing to extredite Fetulah Gulan.

While the deal was undoubtedly part of the fact that Turkish intelligence were aware of the S-400 capabilities in Syria in tracking all US planes including the F22 Raptor, a major reason why Turkey chose to move closer to Russia is for strategic situations of this nature.

They knew the moment would come when they will tow this line, and if there is going to be any obstacle, it would definitely come from Russia. Thus, it is only right to make the enemy of your enemy your friend.

One have to say Erdogan played this one well. By forging closer ties with Russia, Turkey has already cleared the road for a successful operation, knowing the US and NATO can do nothing other than rant and bark like toothless bulldogs.

All those talks of sanctions against Turkish officials would only end up satisfying news headlines for a few days, perhaps with some little names of Turkish officials getting banned from this and that. Nothing more.

The fact is, a full scale economic sanction war on Turkey would damage the country's economy, but strategically, the loser will be the United States of Anarchy and NATO in general.

Erdogan only need to close the Icirlik Airbase and ask the US to move its nuclear weapons stationed there. Worst still, emperor Erdogan can even decide to commandeer the nukes and give the States the middle finger. cool. But then all hell will break los lol.

The thought of closing the Bosphorus against US and NATO war ships and subs is enough to cause unease in Washington and Brussels. They probably understand this as such that, despite the introduction of sanctions, VP Pence and the SG Pompeo will be heading to Ankara for frantic talks with Erdogan on Wednesday.

How Erdogan must be counting his blessings now.cool

As for the Kurds, they got it all coming.

When you dine with the devil and refuse to plan for the future, you have already planned to fail from the beginning.

The Kurds leadership are so corrupt, feeding fat from the oil fields they captured as such that they forget to make a backed up plan. They were not ready to compromise and plan for the future. Rather, they choose to put their trust in an ally that was never a true ally to begin with.

While it is not too late now, it is clear that they have lost the negotiating power and can no longer negotiate from a position of strength. So even if they some how manage to get Assad and Russia to their side to put an end to the Turkish onslaught, it still would be a lose-lose situation for them. Very pathetic.

As for Russia, the current situation gives the Kremlin the pleasure to watch two NATO allies going against one another. Also, it enables Russia to forge better relatons with Turkey on different sectors of the economic while tossing out the US from Syria without doing anything in the actual sense, except by rushing to occupy abandoned territories that were once in US and YPG control. Russia is master of the geopolitical game.cool.

But the biggest gainer is Assad. cool

For the last few years, the Syrian Army has been stretched thin due to fighting on multiple fronts. But the continuous Russian and Iranian support has led to large successes as such that they are now able to mass up forces and concentrate their attack on a single area without fearing they will loose others which were less guided previously.

Now that Turkey is bombing the Kurds, the Syrians have lesser work to do in claiming back some territories heard in that area.

Already, Assad forces backed by Russian airpower has captured the city of Manbij, which was previously under the YPG and US forces control.

Another town is being captured by Assad forces as well, and this will continue until it is all quite in the frontiers.

It is left to see what will happen afterwards if Turkey decide to stop the hostilities or US make do its threat of killing the Turkish economy.

I am waiting while glancing at Alois Irlmaier's prophecy.

What a game of chess and checks.

cool
Foreign AffairsRe: Black Woman Shot Dead By Texas Police Through Bedroom Window by Appleyard(m): 1:41am On Oct 14, 2019
You can imagine. One ediot in the American political trend thread told me that racism is no longer an issue in America. I tell you the truth, if that woman was white, she still would have been alive today. It is no secret that the American law enforcement and entire Justice system is laden with covert racists. Now they are taking it from the streets down to the very homes of harmless, unarmed and defenseless African-Americans, yet one bozo thinks racism is very scarce now in the US.

How many white young teenagers are shot while unarmed in America? How many white folks are shot dead in their homes? Yet they have the guts to preach democrazy and justice to third world nations. This country is one hell of a murderous state. I will not be surprised if the damned racist cop/killer walk away with murder in the guise that he feared for his life.

Murderous country with murderous psychopaths lipsrsealed
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 10:54am On Oct 07, 2019
coluka:
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said: “Nobody pushed me.”

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko has said: "I know what they spoke about, and I don’t think there was any coercion ."

The dems are leading the US into another round of chasing wild geese instead of focusing on issues that are important to the people that elected them into office
That is exactly what I have mentioned earlier. I really do want to get that FL transcript.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 10:49am On Oct 07, 2019
coluka:
The dishonest dems cherry picked portions of the texts and released to deceive people like you. The full transcript of the texts have been released and the texts made it clear that Trump did nothing wrong
Hey buddy, can you please post the full transcript here so we can debate about it? Or give me the link to the full one, I need it urgently.

Thanks.
Literature/Writing AdsRe: . by Appleyard(m): 1:38am On Oct 06, 2019
Efelee05:
Thanks guys. But I'm no longer accepting. I've gotten the number of people I need
Okay, Oniovo. If any project becomes available, just contact me. Thanks. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 11:48am On Oct 05, 2019
GalaticHorde:
the point here is that Trump's perfectly normal conversation broke campaign finance rules simple, even without a request for a quid quo pro or whatever, soliciting damaging material on a political opponent from a foreign government especially for his own personal benefit is simply COLLUSION same thing he wrangled out from under Mueller's investigation, collusion is one of the main things he will be successfully impeached on in the house and he gave the proof of it himself, you can dance around on other issues but collusion will stick this time
I see your point, my friend, but there is a lot that meet the eye, and many critical aspects in this whole drama that so many people (including eminent scholars) are overlooking: the aspect of law and legal reasoning. cool

A lot of people (and not surprising, many media houses) are pouring lot of emotional fuel on this one due to political affiliation and ideological sentiment. But almost all of them forget that there is what we call "legal reasonong," that is, the thought process used by the law courts when interpreting and applying rules to specific legal facts in issue.

In other words, the way the court think and draw inference in the determination of facts in issue, and in the interpretation of the applicable section(s) of the law viz its inherent intention, are totally different from the way the ordinary prudent man would see and interpret same. cool

Now, that is what you and I (and others who are interested) are going to be doing on this particular topic. cool

We are going to be looking into the transcript itself, subject it to legal reasoning and try to capture the legal mindset of the courts and their possible decision should this go to court (which is looking more likely everyday).

So, please, get a copy of the transcript if you can and post it here in clear format for in depth discussion.

I have a project that I need to complete before the client will come looking for me with torch and candle. cool

Get everything arranged while I complete the project offline. I will try rounding up by Sunday evening. So hopefully, full discussion and analysis of the facts in issue will commence Sunday or Monday.

God's speed. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 10:54am On Oct 05, 2019
Wyttcat:
What a fairytale!

You leftists don't know anything other than propaganda, lies and projecting your problems to someone else.

You have gone full retarrdd! Do you know God? Leftist are Godless so stop beiing blasphemous, you already know that the lake of fire is where you will end.

Bernie Sanders is a socialist, so is Warren and they won't be winning elections in America, stop looking for socialist anywhere, we know who they are and they stand no snowball chance in hell!

You are in a black hole as far as information is concerned and no hope coming out of that for you.

You have shifted the goal post again that you never said America is a socialist country, I hope you don't shift till you tip over. You brain-dead leftist can't seem to take a position and stick with it, but always moving left right faster than a drill sergeant.

Trump is warning about globalist more, does that mean it's spreading in America? When a leftist choirboy like you want to talk about what you have no idea, it's really something.

Keep crying all over this thread to sell socialism, I will keep sailing on the sea of your tears. Your litany doesn't make any sense, you probably slept-typing the whole thing. Maybe I should sleep reply you when I get in bed.

All your outdated socialist tactics can't work on conservatives, studies all over the world have exposed your kind to be misfits and unproductive crackpots who still freeload on others to survive, so you must love free everything socialists are promising you.

And just when I thought you couldn't go lower, you almost enter the ground. You are agreeing with me on New York and California and still making it to be your point, why the race to the bottom? When you, a wall of China kind of wall is calling someone else a wall, what else. All you do is project, lie and then more propaganda, think of how to get out of that first.

I can see that I'm repeating myself again, henceforth I'm going to restrict my response to you to three paragraphs, so make sure you put your important questions at the top, I won't be reading your posts past same cos it's mostly trash.

Your lies are what they are , LIES!! Americans afford their medical care, the free market works and the best in the world. I'm sure you will love to come and have your baby in America if given the opportunity.

Like I said earlier, Americans who went out for treatments were NOT for medical but unconventional treatments that would otherwise expose the doctors to lawsuits and Trump just signed to law the right to try for doctors to be free of lawsuits to use everything at their disposal. It seems your ADHD has taken the better part of you again.

Go back and read what I wrote about Snowden, why do you think Trump is talking about spying on him? The whole word is being watched and Obama is the one that introduced spying to US campaign and a sitting president. You are lost girl and just jumping on anything. What do you think is causing what we are talking about today in America if not that the presidential campaign was spied on and then a coup? You are in over your head and making no sense at all.

If racism is not scarce, why are race and hate crimes made up and staged? Why can't we just talk about the ones happening if there is any rather than falsely accusing innocent people only today and get bursted in the next 24 hours and find out it's fake?

You have no evidence that those killings were motivated by racism, the most unjust police killings have been black cop shooting black men. Maybe if you mention where you live we can then figure out why police kill people in your country.

If you want answers to your questions, reduce your post to a quarter of this and post as many times as you want. We all can't be jobless and be in one place typing lengthy rubbish.
All hail Wyttcat...cool the man that "manufactured racism weekly in America", the man who has made racism so scarce these days that whitemen who saw police and ran while unarmed are " shot from the back and killed like chickens" while their blacks counterparts were "allowed to go or chased by dogs or legs." cool cool

Sorry, you are worse than a plantation negro.

It will take a combination of TB Joshua, Renhard Bonke and Mounting of Fire crusade to deliver you from the shackles of delusion and lies.
Foreign AffairsRe: US White Female Cop Shot Black Neighbor In His Apartment, Got 10-years(Pics) by Appleyard(m): 4:16pm On Oct 04, 2019
rottennaija:
This is really sad. I feel for both of them. She made a honest mistake and has thrown away her life in the process, you can see by her tears knowing fully well how "too many things had happened too fast".
She didn't make any honest mistake. She knew what she was doing. Are you telling me that you can't recognize your own flat once you see the inside, starting from the entrance, even if all the buildings outside looks identical? Her excuse was downright nonsense. She was racially driven to act like that. It's open secret that the US police force is laden with covert racists. If Jean was white, he would still have been alive.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 3:47pm On Oct 04, 2019
GalaticHorde:
my brother, you've got time to address someone clearly battling with dementia, the worst lie he has come up with so far was that racism was becoming non existent and i was staring at my screen stunned for a few minutes like what? Even me here in Nigeria knows that that Is a lie even the devil can't boldly make up, my colleagues working in the U.S, my extended family, even those born there in chats with me always stress on the emphasis that when leaving majority black neighborhoods, they have to police themselves every single second to avoid being victimized, they're always on edge, you never know what any racist will call the cops on you for, and in many cases it feels like existing as a black person is a crime on its own and this bare faced liar who i am now seriously doubting is in the U.S is saying it(racism) is almost non existent. It has become so bad that it is featuring as a constant theme repeatedly in Hollywood flicks, remember on greys anatomy when Dr Bailey called her young son to give him what every black american family calls THE TALK ? how he was not supposed to emulate his white friends if stopped by police, not talk back, not make a move, not run, not give any cop any reason to kill him because she wants him to come back home alive and he was just 10years old. There was a discussion on that episode on social media for weeks when black parents started sharing the age of their kids at which they had THE TALK with them and white parents said they never had to have any talk with their kids over police interaction and the revelations of black parents broke their hearts but the dunce above you are quoting will have everyone believe that racism is non existent and the ones we get to hear of repeatedly are staged undecided
I have never seen or heard such a boldface lie in my life. Even the worst of plantation negros can't stoop so low to lie like that. I think I will just heed your advice and stop debating with someone who can't even tell himself the truth.

It's just unbelievable.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 4:09am On Oct 04, 2019
Wyttcat:
I don't care if you like Trump or notit doesn't matter, what matters is being truthful and know what you are takingabbout.

Again your democratic socialist movement is not America and will never be, get that first. Just because China has some is expanding his business all over the world does not make it a capitalist country. Good though that you have changed your position from "US being a socialist country to socialist movement is growing" I hope you know they are two different things. You really need to get the true picture of America and stop your bullcrap of jumping and throwing all over the place hoping something sticks.
Reveletions 21:8,..."all liars shall have their part in the lake of fire.."

My brother, stop peddling falsehood before the Goodman above calls you home. Your lies are stinking all over the place.

At the bolded, there is a socialist movement in America which has the tag "democratic socialists," and their numbers have risen in recent years. Wisconsin and the city of Milwaukee is seen as the "Whitehouse" of socialism in America.

Now, use your brain and comprehend the facts below:

A recent Gallup poll found 58 percent of Americans ages 18 to 34 think socialism is good for the country, and democratic socialist politicians like Sen. Bernie Sanders and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez enjoy broad support from millennial and Generation Z voters.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-group-young-people-socialism
That is the fact on ground, not some fancy dreams or delusional faithfulness.

I never said America is a socialist state, but that some of its policies hinges on socialist idealism, and that some of these ideas are already testing the water, making the system a hybrid.

If socialism isn't swirling around the American political spectrum already, why is Trump and the GOPs warning against it?

see here:

https://www.voanews.com/usa/gop-warning-about-socialism-not-resonating-many-voters-0
Thank God you cited California and New York as examples of state with inherent socialist ideals. Face it; the socialist threat is real, and if you don't know that Medicare for all, free college, and taxing the wealthy above all others (which the Dems in the House are canvassing for) are pure socialist principles, then I'm sorry to say, kophschmerzen was right--you are a wall that nothing can go through (no offence meant).


List the features of a police and socialist country and you will find out that america is not one but you leftist skulls are 6inch thick and no truth and wisdom can penetrate it.
You are a pathological liar and a socialist/communist agent with propaganda of making people think "oh if America is socialist and police state, it must be a good thing". No America is none of those you wish for it and it will never be.
Have you ever heard of the book 1894 by George Orwell? Oh, don't bother because I know for sure you won't do a little research on it. So i will just paraphrase its meaning. It means a dystopian/police state. Any state that monitor the private life of its citizens is a police state. Mass surveillance is a feature of a police state. The militarisation of the police force which is supposed to be a friend of the common citizen is another feature of a police state. I can go on and on, but may be the statistics in this article will help you understand a bit:
THE U.S. POLICE STATE: HOW THE UNITED STATES HAS BECOME ITS OWN WORST NIGHTMARE. https://www.criminaljusticedegreehub.com/police-state/
I never wish for america to be a socialist state because it is not my country and I don't live there. but when I see something building up, I will just say it as it is. It is only jingoists like you that lives in delusion.

Now, allow me to take you on the blatant lies and shameless self deception the rest of your post depicted.


No America go anywhere for better healthcare, it doesn't get better than it is in America, people might go out for what is considered illegal, unsafe or non conventional treatments like traditional herbs that will not be allowed in the United states because of lawsuits. Trump is signing it to law now for the patients to sign away their rights of lawsuits so the doctors can administer medications freely for the patients who want them.

America never claimed to be a democracy but a constitution republic, the best system in the world, so the "democratic lie" is in your deranged mind only.

Go back and listen fully to what Snowden is all about and stop getting fulfilled on lies, no one in police state needs to be told they are in it. Snowden exposed an illegal activity under a president who turned out to be against America. You need to go and play in the dollhouse, this topic is way beyond your shallow mind, your brain has been damaged by leftist propaganda machines.

Racism is so scarce in America now, one is basically staged and made up every week, but your twisted mind can't figure that out.

Stop grasping at straws, 90% black murders are black on black murders. Police kill more whites than blacks. So you hopeless race hustlers need to find something else to do with your life, the train is already left on the issue of bad cop, everyone has a bad person in his family.

You are the worst kind of Democrats, so stop distancing yourself, same ol same ol!

All the shitty states in the US are Democrats run and are not the same with conservatives states.

The hypocrite and socialist Bernie Sanders kind of reform will never happen in the US and patriots will see to it.
Lie No. 1.....That no America travel out for healthcare...and American's healthcare is the best...

You are one hell of a funny dude. How can your healthcare system be the best when the people it is meant to save cannot afford it? Are you such an irredeemable jingoist?

Here is the fact: hundreds of thousands of Americans travel out of the country to access better and cheaper healthcare every year:
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/americans-traveling-to-other-countries-for-medical-care/3648328.html

https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(18)30620-X/fulltext

https://www.insider.com/medical-tourism-americans-save-money-healthcare-2018-6
In 2017 alone, more than 1.4 millions Americans left the county to get better and cheaper treatment in various health segments. How on earth you didn't know this baffles me. Well, let's just say you didn't do proper research on it that's why. But your next set of lies were earth-shattering and confirm the fact that you are a blind jingoist.

Lie No 2. Snowden etc...

It's Snowden the only whistle blower in the country who have testified about the mass surveillance? Heck, if you don't know about the government spy program, then you must be dumper than I thought. No need to even go right on with this one. The people that reads through this page can see through your self denial. It is the next one that really makes me wanna cry for you. Sorry, I don;t mean to insult you, but you disappointed everyone on this one.

Lie No.3 That Racism is very scarce in America now... embarassed shocked shocked shocked

Is anybody listening to this? I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this one. What kind of jingoist is this? From where do I even start? Jesus!

In March 2018, Stephen Clarke was killed by racist cops in Sacramento while unarmed and fleeing. Was that manufactured?

In June 2018, 17 years old Antwon Rose was murdered by racist cops in Pittsburgh, while unarmed and running away, shot from behind. Was that manufactured?

Emantic Bradford Jr was shot from behind and killed in November 2018, in Alabama by racist cops while running away unarmed. His death was manufactured as well, right? So much for racism is very scarce these days in America, You are a white livered liar. Must you spout lies to buttress a point? undecided

In 2018 alone, the US police state killed 1,165 people, and many of those killings were racially motivated ones. From 2018 to 2019, the figure is getting worse, and when you said whites are killed more than blacks, you simply did not take into consideration the huge disparity in the population gap. Statistically, as of July 2, 2019, blacks, despite being just 12.6 of the entire US population, account for 59% of such killings.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
Here are others that shows racism is worse than ever and what people thinks about it in 2019:

https://www.theroot.com/here-s-how-many-people-police-killed-in-2018-1831469528

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/04/09/key-findings-on-americans-views-of-race-in-2019/
Black on black crimes doesn't deny the fact that racism is very much alive and never scarce in America. The recent El Paso killing by a white supremacists is just one of many examples. The last month incident where a bank cashier called the cops on a blackman for having about $2000 in his account wasn't manufactured like you said, but pure racist acts. The likes of Gucci and other clothing companies painting blackface and other racists drawings on their clothing lines wasn't manufactured but depict the stark reality of the racial problem in America.

These are facts man, real facts.

It's time to sleep down here. Have a nice day and Sweet dreams. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 12:52am On Oct 04, 2019
Trapping:
If every Nigerian has your logical reasoning ability, we would be amongst the first world nations. Your thought process is always out of this world, I'm saying this not only on this issue at hand, but I've read much of your writings on Narialand and mehn, they are without logical flaws. Even when someone disagrees with you, the person cannot deny the fact that your reasons are based on pragmatic implications.

Kudos!!
Your words are conforting and laden with inspirational reassurance. In a time of global deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act...George Orwell. We must tell ourselves the truth whether we support the left or right.

Thanks and God bless. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 12:12pm On Oct 03, 2019
Timbuktuo:
Exactly. Any casual, impartial observer would immediately get suspicious of the coverage of this latest “scandal”. How can you force your narrative on a situation when the original lefties involved have repeatedly debunked your claims? Ah, ah. Is this not madness?

But, wait, rumour has it that this is all a ploy for the DNC and Deep State to cover up some of their own crimes. They are trying to make sa a stink so bad that when Trump reveals their own indiscretions that would be subdued and even dismissed as retaliation against them for trying to “bring him to book”. grin

Remember Mike Pompeo is in Italy as we speak. He is there to meet with the intelligence of Italy, Australia and one or two other countries to coordinate with them on the role of the deep state and a certain Mr. Misfud, and their role in the now dead collusion delusion debacle. grin

These motherfu**era are guilty as f*ck and they are on the offensive to make sure Trump doesn’t open their yansh. They know he really means to drain the swamp and the swamp is fighting back.
I have always allowed logic to dictate my views on international politics, and it has helped me a lot.

Looking at it from a logical point of view, I really find it hard to comprehend the basis upon which the Dems are basing their claim. The content of the released transcript itself didn't even spell out anything that an ordinary reasonable man would immediately recognised as quid pro quo, or is there another version that we aren't told? Again, the supposed victim, Zelensky, have said he was NEVER pressured whatsoever. So it really baffles me what the dems are doing now. Except they have an ace up their sleeves, I dare say they have dug a landmine for themselves.

Like I stated before the 2016 election, and all through the course of the Mueller investigation, Dems actions towards Trump are mostly done out of irrational behavior. They jump on everything without first gaming the possible consequences. I don't know who is advising them or is it that God has turned the counsel of their political Ahitophel into unbridled foolishness?

They are making the same mistake they made during the 2016 election. Instead of focusing their campaign based on economic and social policies, Hillary and her entire house of Dems made Trump the basis of their campaign, comparing him to Putin and other stuffs, they made him even more popular.

Believe me, had the Mueller report came in before the concluded midterm elections, the story would have been different in the house today. That would have been the wake up call they need to atop acting irrationally. Fortunately and unfortunately for them, it came after the elections were done. And now, they are back in their usual folly.

Yes, it is folly because they can't see that all these is actually making Trump more popular. They fail to understand that when something lingers too much, it is normal that people will begin to loose interest. That is what they are doing to their voters base while hardening the resolve of the enemy's camp and even inspiring undecided voters to switch to the otherwise. Last time when I said all these in the formal thread and concludedvthat Trump would win, they called me names.

But at the end, logical reasoning always wins. And in this case, I am seeing similar scenario. Time will always tell. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m):
Timbuktuo:
Edward Snowden
John Kiriakou
Chelsea Manning
Jeff Sterling.

These are whistleblowers with confirmed first hand information. Most on this list are still being punished, in fact, Snowden is on exile as we speak; Manning is in jail. When are the holy Dems going to protect their rights to whistleblow? Instead we are told that an unidentified individual, with second hand information grin is being protected. Foh
American wonder. cool. Funny enough, the Uki president just said he was never in any way pressured and can never be pressured.

Its like, you were arrested for coming to my house to steal properties, then I came out and said, you didn't steal the property. Tell me; on what basics would the police rest their case should it go further?

Believe me, if I am a Democrat, I would be sitting with one yanch raised like a biblical cursed Egyptian because, if this impeachment moves fails, many of them would be roasted come 2020. It doesn't take a genius to know that. And this is just why it is going to get even more interesting as the new month wears on. The Dems know they have to stick to this one like a plague, no going back. But with Pelosi already contradicting herself, (or honestly slipping up?), the likelihood that this thing will backfire is getting higher.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 2:27am On Oct 03, 2019
Timbuktuo:
Edward Snowden
John Kiriakou
Chelsea Manning
Jeff Sterling.

These are whistleblowers with confirmed first hand information. Most on this list are still being punished, in fact, Snowden is on exile as we speak; Manning is in jail. When are the holy Dems going to protect their rights to whistleblow? Instead we are told that an unidentified individual, with second hand information grin is being protected. Foh
I am having the feeling that this whole thing will either boomerang or backfire. The Ukrainian president already stated he was not under any pressure whatsoever.

So I wonder on what basics will the dems be building their impeachment proceedings. This would be Pelosi's hangman's noose if it fails to go through, and from the look of things, it is heading in that direction.

From all logical reasoning, it will come to a point where they will have to disclose the identity of the whistleblower who outed this info, and that is where it will get more intriguing because from Pelosi's own statements, she knew about the info even before the so-called whistleblower blows it into the open. That was exactly what she implied on CBS NEWS "60 Minutes" live telecast.

Question: if you knew already, then who is the whistleblower you claim reveals it? And why wait for a whistleblower to reveal it?Something doesn't add up here. Or is itbjust a slip up from her? undecided

Well, with hands akinbo, I just they look they laugh.cool

Interesting times ahead. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 2:00am On Oct 03, 2019
Wyttcat:
I can't fix the problem of your life, you may have to see your shrink or whoever is handling such with you. I can only list the problem Trump is fixing that you asked. I hope you don't expect me to bring Trump himself to come explain to you cos one never knows the alternate universe you are in today.

See it again, these are what he has fixed, though I know you are blind to facts but someone can always point it out to you if you ask around.

You have to embrace reality first and stop your lies. Trump just got 6 millions off food stamps and no elites own 95% wealth in America, that's a lie and you need to stop it. I posted the chart yesterday and I hate repeating myself. Are you a blind man or just blind in spirit?

Stop it, you are not capable of calling a spade a spade, you are a swamp creature and it shows. I'm beginning to think you have ADHD. I told you yesterday that America is not a police state and that it's all in your fantasy and what you are making up, that will never happen in America. Now you are saying I didn't have answer to it, what particular answer do you want me to give? You are so leftist and want people to say what you like but that won't work with me.

Oh lawwd! Who have I been talking to! Go and read my previous post, I was the one saying Sweden is NOT a socialist country, I even corrected you yesterday and went to the extend of saying offering social services to the needy does not translate to socialist countries. You really need to take a break from this thread cos you are sounding like you lost your way mentally.

Fiirst of all, US and Sweden are not in the same class, and then California and New York are becoming what other states are scared of becoming. These two rich Democrats states have been run to the ground by the same leftist/liberals we are talking about, and Trump has just issued California violation over filth and homelessness.
This wasn't your original moniker, what happened?

Well, it seems you just don't get it . I don't hate Trump neither do I support him blindly. I call a spade a spade and nothing more.

My dig with you is right on socialist idealism which you are denying isn't playing out in America. In fact, the number of so called Democratic socialist movement in the US has increased tremendously Socialism is pure welfare and when a so-called democratic system start implementing same procedures, howbeit in limited format, it becomes a hybrid democracy. That is what you are stubbornly failing to see.

Oh, if I am blind and I have ADHD for calling out your ignorance and pulsating lies on healthcare and America being a police state, then that is okay with me. cool I don't condescend to the level of immature reasoning and conservative extremism harbored by your likes.I am too matured for that.cool

I don't expect much from someone who doesnt know that hundreds of thousands of Americans travel out of the country each year to access better and cheaper healthcare.

And how would you know that a state that overwhelmingly spies on and monitor the private lives of its citizens is a police state, since it is America and not China or Russia?

Your level of jingoism is something else. Even many die-hard American citizens know they are living a "Democratic lie".

According to your jingoistic mindset, the likes of Michael Snowden has ADHD for breaking the secret oath to expose the truth and educate your microscopic ignorance that you are living in a police state,right?

It is folks like you that would say there are no racist cops in America neither is the stupid justice system not rigged to undermine minorities, particularly blacks, until one of your own is murdered by agents of the hybrid state.

And stop playing the Dems card on all issues. I dislike them as much as others do, but I don't have to paint them black all the time when I know the real facts on ground. California and Newyork are not the only states in the US that runs on contrary principles. Some Republican run states are not better off either. In fact,Dems and GOPS are just two sides of the same coin with very little variance.

As Sanders rightly put it, as long as American electoral system isn't reformed,it will continue to be unfair and equally corrupt.


Bye.. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 5:11pm On Oct 02, 2019
ycat:
This is just in the first 20 months into his tenure and if none of this can fix your life then you are a forgotten issue.

Dems propaganda is damaging your brain.

This is the chart of who owns what in the USA as of 2016, earnings have grown and 1.2 millions low class have moved to middle class since Trump's election.
My friend, why are you so confused and unable to grasp points, instead digressing like a helpless tidal wave? I ask you what is Trump fixing regarding the socialist idealism in play in America and you came back with a load of irrelevances. Does the figures you posted change the facts on ground? Does it stop the over 40 millions Americans living on food stamps? Does it change the fact that 95% of the wealth is owned by the elites?

Dems? What a weak argument. I don't give a dime about dems or Republicans, I'm the guy who just calls a spade a spade, no matter whose horse is gored. Reading your other posts shows that you are a jingoist drinking the liberal Kool aid ditched out by the dark knights in the dark corridors of the establishments.

Whether you believe it or not, you are living in a police state, period. And I guess you didn't have answers to that.

Any state that prioritized extensive breaching of the privacy of its citizen on a larger scale is a police state, which is also an operative dictum of extreme socialism. But folks like you love to twist words to suit your warped narrative since it is America. It is laughable how you are quick to label Sweden and Norway as examples of socialist states but quick to exonerate the US when it has similar programs and ideas running in it. Thank God you know some states like Cali and New York personified what you don't want to believe, so all hope is not lost for you to realize that you are already living in a hybrid socialized state.



Nonsense! You better go and get help before it's too late. Do you think Americans are people you can tell what to do? Have you ever seen a country with so much guns gets run down by any global agenda. Obama tried it and that's why Hillary didn't win and dems won't be winning elections anytime soon. Obamacare that is dead and being buried as we speak? Even if it's law, how many sane Americans will allow chips inserted in them? There are two sides to everything you see in America, the conservatives and then the liberals, so stop lumping everything together. What you are expressing is in your fantasy alone and you don't know who the American patriots who are awake to the plans of the deepstate are. Why do you think some media and people are saying there may be a second civil war which by the way I don't believe will happen? National guards are enough to squash any spill over from when certain people are arrested?

You need to get out more and upgrade your brains with what is actually happening and not what you think should as being used on you as brainwashing mechanism.

Stop your BS, the US is already at war and the Patriots are winning, so you won't be having all that you dream of American, God chose Trump for a reason.

There will never be a state-controlled America and that's why the battle is on now. If you think otherwise, you haven't been paying attention to the fights going on.
You are just babbling without any logical sense. Use your brain, no one is dreaming that America becomes a socialist state. We are just stating the obvious but folks like you chose to live in delusion. You couldn't disprove the fact that you live in a police state. Well, ghat is an improvement. cool

When I saw the rest of your posts with GalaticHorde and Kophschmerzen, I gave up on you.

For you to say that no American travels out of this country to get Healthcare elsewhere and that America has the best Healthcare in the world shows that you are not even truthful to yourself.

Every year, thousands of Americans travel outside the shores of the country to get cheaper and better healthcare elsewhere. But how would you know since you chose to live in your own world of reality.

Do you even know that the Healthcare system of Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark and Norway are better than what is attainable in America?

Get your facts straight before you spout lies and make the devil a Saint. The US is not even among the best 10 countries in Healthcare.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 3:50pm On Oct 01, 2019
GalaticHorde:
trump will scale through but not unscathed, people have been so desensitized to scandals by trump that even if like he said he shoots someone on 5th avenue, people wouldn't bat their eyelids for far too long and besides, the democratic house is led by whimps and collaborators
Hmmm. i don't want to jump to conclusion yet. But I do believe that there is more to come. But the thing that really makes me want to believe that this marathon race by Dems would backfire is the dream their media covens are already dreaming. That Pelose could emerge the Potus should Trump be impeached and Pence is indicted and swept along. Very funny bunch of people.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 3:41pm On Oct 01, 2019
ycat:
You have no idea what you are saying but just throwing words around for the sake 9f it.

Socialism is what you see in countries I listed earlier and it has nothing to do with having social services set up for the needy.

America has a very good social services put in place to help the very needy and vulnerable to get by and get on their feet, though it is being abuse but Trump is fixing it right now. Helping the poor is not socialism, having govt at the center of every aspect of your life is socialism. America will never be a socialist country despite having the Bernie Sanders of this world trying to bring it in.
What is Trump fixing? cheesy Please tell us.

So you don't know that that the American government is in every area of the people's life? You shot your foot by your own words as quoted below. cheesy

In China for instance 90% of the wealth is in the hands of the elites, there's a registration database for everything just like Bernie is proposing in America, govt is in the midst of everything including in your bedroom and you have to have social credits to enable you use your God-given rights like going to the hospital, Chinese citizens have to be given renewable permits to move into certain areas within their own country. You have to be sick to want that to come to America.
Now you just confuse yourself the more. At the bolded, if only 90% of the wealth is in the hands of the elites in China, then kudos to the Chinese, because in America, only 10 families (the 1%ters/elites) are richer than the entire country put together. They control more than 95% of the entire wealth of the country. How is that better than China?

Your confusion went further downhill when you fail to see that in America, people are already living in an Orwellian state. In America, if you are bleeping your wife, the government per the NSA is there with you in your bedroom. You send an SMS to a friend, they know. For every credit card swipe you perform, they keep tabs. You chat on social media, they are there watching. Heck, even if you buy a bathroom slippers and harbor thoughts of bleeping the girl next door, they know and are watching in every steps of the way. America is a police state and the government is completely involved in every area of the people's private life. China simply made theirs official, but it takes only the courage of whistle blowers in the US to inform you that you are already living in a police state. It is only a sick man who doesn't know that. Bernie simply stated the obvious.

Face it or leave it; you are already living in a socialist state howbeit covert in operations. Come out of your delusion and stop deceiving yourself.

Canada, United Kingdom, Sweden and the rest of them have socialized medicine and more Bernie Sanders among them who are pushing for it but can't be called socialist countries, maybe in the future After all no one knew that New York and California could be pushing leftist agendas that are now making people flee these two states in record numbers.
What is wrong with you? how do you explain ObamaCare prioritised chip infusion into your body; democratic or socialised healthcare? O boy, you are already living in a covert socialized states. grin New York and California simply made what has long been there official.
The majority of you can't even see that your undemocratic electoral system were cleverly designed to pave way for state control in the future. But we do know, and we aren't in the least surprise about what is happening in the aforementioned states.

You are in it already, brother cool. Only time will tell before it goes full spectrum socialist. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: Saudi Arabia:Houthi Rebels Claim Capture Of 'thousands' Of Saudi Troops by Appleyard(m): 11:35am On Oct 01, 2019
nemesis8u:
Never disputed anything u wrote except for the mention of India
Thanks for helping to correct that.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 11:04am On Oct 01, 2019
Kophschmerzen:
Even the arse licking Barr is pissed with lumping him with deranged Rudy in the call.
Hey, buddy. Longest time. I am reading you guys comments here on the latest Trump saga. Its seems the man and his presidency is genetically wired to be obfuscated in one trouble after the other. cool

How do you think this will go: will the GOP's in the Upper house come around or the move will backfire against Madame Pelosi and the rest of the gang? I see more revelations coming to light. cool but from which of the sides, I can't tell.

I am keeping my fingers cross while watching to see who will emerge the Victor from this political royal rumble.

As long as America's sham democracy continue to run on a two-party state, this sorts of political brouhaha will excel unabated. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m):
ycat:
You need to stop talking about matters you know nothing about.

As I said earlier, social services have nothing to do with socialist.

Sweden and Denmark are NOT socialist countries, you can call them welfare states/countries, Canada and United Kingdom too, and then California and New York are fast going that way as well.

China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos among others are the socialist/communist countries.
You are the one getting things mixed up. If you have the principles of one form of government enshrined in your day to day activities, you are that type of government, no matter what name you chose to call yourself.

Socialism is mostly all about welfare and states like Sweden, Norway and heck, even the US are examples of typical welfare states running on quasi socialist idealism.

Call it hybrid socialism.

While the state is not in full control of all means of production, its socialist cloaked hand runs deep in the service it delivers and the attempts of control its seek to have over the necessary and basic needs of the citizens such as in healthcare, water, etc.

So I find it funny when Americans says they hate Bernie Sanders and his socialist ideas when their country is already approaching full socialist spectrum or testing the waters, while masking the national face with democracy. cool

Practices, not name is what classifies you as one particular form or style of government.

The mistake people are making today is defining and restricting a concept to its theoretical old fashioned form while forgetting its evolution and practical aspects in the modern era. Just like the so-called democracy, socialism has evolved and its no longer the usual practice of states controlling full means of production.
Foreign AffairsRe: Saudi Arabia:Houthi Rebels Claim Capture Of 'thousands' Of Saudi Troops by Appleyard(m): 10:04am On Oct 01, 2019
nemesis8u:
India is not a member of Saudi led IMCTC coalition. So u r news of captured Indians is pure baloney.

There are no mercs in IMCTC , all are serving or reserve soldiers from Islamic countries fighting for the Saudis.

Failed and near bankrupt countries like Sudan, Pakistan etc offer their military services to other rich gulf countries in exchange of money.
Oh,did I mentioned India? My bad. I meant to say Iraqis.But Houthis themselves claim there were Pak mercenaries alongside the captured.

https://www.newkerala.com/news/read/220969/houthis-claim-pak-iraq-mercenaries-among-hundreds-of-troops-captured-during-saudi-attack.html

There were mercenaries among them,and even the video released by the Houthis confirms it.

My point is, whether they are regular or mercs, one thing is always clear, Saudi Arabia is a coward bunch of lunatics.

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