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uckennety:
Isoma is not insult just like A ngwa man calls anyone dt is not ngwa ohuhu is also aw d call anyone not ikwerre isoma!even if ur hausa you are isoma

I know what Isoma means. And no! To the Ikwerre, Isoma is anyone that speaks Igbo dialect, that they are sure is not Ikwerre dialect.

Ikwerres don't call kalabaris , Okrikas, Ogonis Isoma, only the Igbos.

No, the Ngwa doesn't call any non Ngwa ohuhu. The person must be a non Ngwa and also Igbo speaking to qualify to be called Ohuhu.

Ngwas don't call their Annang neighbors Ohuhu, they call them "Mmoghu", because they know that they speak a language that is not only non Ngwa, but also non intelligible to Ngwa.

Ikwerres don't call Hausa Isoma, only the Igbos.

OjukwuWarBird:
Can you see what Abagworo just typed which you quoted

" Ikwerres are CrossRiver Migrants." Abagworo.

Now it is no longer Bini but CrossRiver.

These people are confused

No. He has a point. It is believed by some that the current Igbos in parts of Imo and Abia once inhabited the current Cross River area, but were gradually pushed into their current area by the current occupants of the Cross Rivers area, he(Abagworo) was probably insinuating that Ikwerre ancestors were part of that great Igbo cross riverian migration, along side their "Isoma" neighbors.

Atleast that's what I think he meant.

Abagworo:
Same way there is "Rotibi" Street in heart of old Owerri township. Ndigbo please learn to give others freedom of association. One of our major problems is trying to force others to accept what we want against what they want. It happens at every level in Igboland up to family unit.

Ikwerre has come out as a block to refute links with Igbo nation because they feel better off being Ikwerre the same way Efik is not Ibibio or Isoko is not Urhobo or Esan is not Bini or Kalabari is not Ijaw. Live and let live

As for you OP Ikwerre is a vague Crossriver migrants with Owerri or Uratta as a starting point via Etche to present settlements. Apart from some fringe migratory settlements from Ahoada area nothing links Ikwerre with Benin. No single Benin word, Kingship or nomenclature is in Ikwerreland. If you want evidence of Benin influence in Igboland come to Imo State where you will see such surnames and names as

Iyasara, Adizua, Ossai, Obi/Ovie, Osakwe etc. You can equally check out the Kingship system in Ugutaland which existed long before coming of Europeans. Ikwerre was kingless and decentralised.

Your Efik/ Ibibio, Isoko/ Urhobo, Esan/ Bini, comparison to the Igbo/Ikwerre situation is flawed, and I had explained this time and again to you, yet you won't drop it.

At no time did the colonials identify Isoko and Urhobo as being one stock, the Isokos emphasized on their uniqueness from the word go, to the British, they( Isoko) were addressed as Igaboh by the British, and the Urhobos as Sobo, there was never a time the Sobo and Igaboh were recognized as same people by the colonials, rather they were recognized as related people. The same applies to Efik and Ibibio, Esan and Bini, these people emphasized their distinctiveness from each other from the very beginning.



This is not same with Ikwerre. Ikwerre at no time emphasized their distinctiveness to the colonials from other Igbo tribes like ndoki and Asa, they were called Ikwerre-Ibo, just as the Ndoki were called Ndoki- Ibo, Asa-Igbo, Ngwa-Ibo, the term "Ibo" was a generic term for all Igbo speaking.

The appropriate example to the Igbo / Ikwerre issue, will be Urhobo/ Okpe issue or Ogoni/ Eleme issue.

Ikwerre can be what ever they want to be today, but they must not tamper with the past. They must accept that their Ikwerre ethnic nationality has it's root in the civil war, they must accept that there was a time they voluntarily went as Ibo like the Rest of Ibo speaking people, and that this identity wasn't forced on them anymore than it was forced on the Ezza man.
They must stop this their lies against Ndiigbo, like the such this OP is propagating here.

Ossai is an Igbo name answered even by Nsukka people in Enugu state, Obi is in no way related to Ovie, Obi is an Igbo word, Osakwe is an Igbo name even found in Igbo hinterlands in Idemili/ Anaocha/ Njikoka areas of Anambra. It's an abridged version of the name Olisakwe.

kettle84:
Mr O.P , Ikwere is a dialect of a language known as IGBO. that is why your names are igbo names because your language is igbo but your dialect is ikwere. Igbo's are hated by other tribes simply because of their intellectual strength, resilience and enterprise. the civil war has come and gone since 1970 yet some folks still harbor the hate. most of the actors of the coupe that led to the civil war are ikwere but all Igbo's bore the cost. After Ibe kachikwu was appointed Buhari asked what else do igbo want? in the head of other tribes ikwere and Igbo's in Delta state are Igbo's. weather you people agree or not Igbo's in the southeast have nothing to loss .if you like deny your root till eternity, it won't change anything. you mentioned oil, people of the southeast ,like you can see since you were born can live without oil. that your oil,will continue to be use by all Nigeria.


Mr Ikwere, people of the southeast are proud of themselves and all Igbo's who know who they are from time immemorial.

I am a proud igbo man,now ,tomorrow and forever.

No Ikwerre man was involved in the coup. It was the Midwestern Igbos, known today as Delta Igbos.

ezeudu23:
there is a street in owerre aja obosi in Anambra state named after a Yoruba called John akande, he was d first person to build a house there


So that baby op is azzhole

Yes! There is also this Yoruba man called "Adelabu", that have streets in Umuahia and Enugu named after him.

Learnt that the man spent most of his life in the East.

apcisevil:
Even my village say NWO, not NWA...not only ikwerre....central igbo is NWA...many villages have their tongue....if my friend and his people are talking you won't even understand one word, he speaks isuochi

Not only begging, they have paid with the bloods of their love ones before the so called 13% was given to them. Yet more blood are still being spill till date

You must be from Bende area of Abia or Aninri area of Enugu.
They are the ones that use that Nwo.

Igwe in Bende is pronounced as "Igwo", but for the sake of Igbo Izugbe they still write it as "Igwe".

chrisxxx:
Oyibo man where do u belong?
You do not even know where Chokocho is. Southern Imo State is where we have the Awara people who claim everyday day are not Ibo and would prefer belonging to Rivers State. Mugu. Bat calls himself bird.

Chokochoko are Etche people. What exactly is the aim of this your thread?

frankline5:
I understand ikwere language clearly just like every other distinct igbo dialects and this yeruba boy is here causing unnecessary division.

He is likely to be an Ikwerre guy. Those people are so irrational.

You should join the Ikwerre facebook page and get first hand experience of how the average Ikwerre youth reasons.

You will see all kinds of beliefs that defy logic that these people have.
One of them said that his Choba parents told him that after the Nigerian forces invaded Choba and Igbo people fled Choba deserting their homes and property, that Choba citizens broke into Igbo homes and found in Igbo homes, documents detailing how Igbos planned to rename Choba, impose an Igbo ruler in Choba, and then evacuate Choba people from Choba, to Igboland and replace them with Igbos from Igboland.

The Guy that was saying this is in his thirties o! And he swore that his parents told him the story and that the story is sacrosanct!


You can imagine the level of folly plaquing those people, and how their mind work.


When I asked him for a print version of the said document, he said that there was no need for a print version, that All Choba people testified to this fact, and that the oral version as it were, is good enough evidence.You can imagine the level of mass brainwashing that took place there.
When I pressed more to show me the document, he got angry and started cursing me, calling me names like Isoma, land grabber and all what not. It's really a pathetic situation.

Ikwerre Igbo denial thrives on irrational falsehoods made up by their parents, and swallowed hook, line and sinker by their irrational youths.

Come to the street of Port Harcourt and see streets named after our 'colonial masters' the Ibos. You could hardly find a street named after an Ikwerre man. Do you own Port Harcourt?

Again this is coming from the same stream of irrational thinking and baseless accusations.

Streets are named after those who were the first to acquire lands in such areas or/ and are usually the first to buy land from the street and hence bought such rights from the city planning community, all a person needs to is be wealthy enough to pay for a land and the rights.
Street can also be named after high profile persons who one way or the other, contributed to the General development of the city or brought honour to the city via great accomplishments.

My best friend have the street they live in GRA Enugu named after his Father, he told me that they were the first to move into that part of GRA and that his father bought the right to be named after the street from the Enugu state urban planning department. Mind you that my friend is not from Enugu state.


Your Ikwerre fathers didn't have PH streets named after them because they didn't pay for the naming right from the city planners, and they were selling rather than buying lands in the area.

Not all Igbos were able to get streets in PH named after them, only the rich and the accomplished were able to.

Your parents lied to you to cover their inadequacies.

As an Ikwerre man you could be stoned and lynched for speaking your dialect in Port Harcourt City before the war my dad told me.

The average Ikwerre man is so intellectually lazy and incapable of rational thoughts.

How exactly could the above happen without a single recorded documentation of it by local and foreign print media?
How exactly is that possible? Do all Igbo people speak same dialect? Which dialect of Igbo was forced on Ikwerre? Oguta dialect of Nzimiro? Onitsha dialect of Zik? Ohuhu Umuahia dialect of Okpara? Idemili dialect of Achebe? Ehugbo dialect of Ibiam?

Does it even occur to the Ikwerre that Igbos speak in distinct but closely related dialects, that Igbo Izugbe is an artificial language created for Igbo language studies only but not spoken by any Igbo clan?


If you have any bit of rationality and any iota of logical thinking, you would know that your parents were pathological liars, and that no such things as lynching an Ikwerre man in PortHarcourt for speaking Ikwerre dialect occured.

Cleaners are also federal civil servants. It's not about about the number, it's about the posts they are handling and their ranks.

I'm sure that most of the high cadre lucrative posts will be handled by Northerners.

01Mysticdon:
hahaha, I speak for my people. Iworte shi?

I don't understand! it's not yet ripe to be plucked.

You speak for your Ogba people? Fair enough. As long as you don't assume to speak for Ndoni and Egbema.

01Mysticdon:
Lol, we the people of Onelga nd Rivers are not Igbos. Go and claim your own territory

Nwanne, as an Ogba guy, you can only speak for Ogba, and not for the Ndoni and Egbema people.

01Mysticdon:
Why do you hate we Niger Deltans? Dhurr! Mind your region

That post was made by an Ogba Guy in Ali Ogba facebook page.

I couldnt Post the Rest of it, because the spam bot got my Igboid account.

Udmaster:
okay. I Apologize.
Ndi Anambra, Apologies to you all here.
God Bless Anambra, Enugu,Abia,Imo,Ebonyi.

Cool.
Chino I hope you saw his apology. So I pray you to sheath you sword. Let this thread not be derailed.

We all all know that Refiner is the most beautiful girl amongst those contestants.
Abeg make una vote for her.

I vote Refiner

cc: NLJega

dason4life:
So you have realized that the stupidity of your fellow clan shouting for the creation
of Biafra destroyed your past heritage and left you with shambles?

The glory of the later days will be greater than that of the former. Onitsha is even better today and can only grow better as it fuses with Asaba.

dason4life:
Eko Oni Baje O!!!

Meanwhile, those who didn't see any growth are the ones who are yet
to cross the Niger Bridge.

Like the posters above and below me

Typical Yoruboid brain.

https://www.nairaland.com/2497740/vintage-pictures-onitsha-anambra-before

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Cyph98:
I'm still trying to get the "red pill" in this thread.
And please stop hiding under the facade of history. You seek to promote hate and sectorial hatred through this lecture.

What's you plan? To get the Yoruboid Mods to hid under the frivolous excuse of "Promotion of secession" to close the thread?

Why are you jittery? If you don't feel comfortable with the thread, you can take your leave, let other comfortable with it discuss the issues raised.

Is it not funny that the same Mutala Muhammad will later turn to an apostle of anti Western interference in African states, when he rode to power through the British interference in the Nigerian- Bia**** conflict. Such a hypocrite.