₦airaland Forum

AfricanColumbus:
Reno:

RoyalUc:
Which Ika or Ukwani man have you seen fighting Reno on the internet?

My people would say; "when coded remark/insult thrown to no one is too 'light,' the 'owner' will respond."

RoyalUc:
"What has Osu to do with our discussion?" Did you just ask that? Is it not obvious you don't understand English? What is the meaning of osu? And in what context did I make reference to it? Just emotional outbursts!

Ogwashi uku are proud Nri people, right? If according to you, a people who are closer to the people you're insulting even by natural settlements have "nothing to do with Bini slavish history," how come a people who are farther interior away from the binis are the slaves to them?
Do you even know the places you are talking about?

iSlayer:
I think the Ika/Ukwuani/Ikwerre/Ogba are the only tribes in the whole of subsaharan Africa to still claim their slave masters. Every other African tribe deposed their slave masters and forge ahead with their real identity. The Ika/Ukwuani/Ikwerre/Ogba remained slaves after the end of serfdom officially.

As it is said "it is only an animal (or a slave) that answers to the name (bears the identity) it was given by another person". Ika et al are a disgrace to African consciousness.

RoyalUc:
Typical of you people! Ignorant yet boastful!
So, there is nothing like the osu caste system in igbo land?

Reno may be referring to the Igbankes, (which obviously, you don't even know about) and the Ikas, but not even the Ogwashi ukwus, Nsukwa people, etc

iSlayer:



Capital thrash. You are a slave to Bini. Tweh.

gregyboy:
They ika were already under bini rule which would make it easier for benin invaders ti cross to the core east without resistance but even with assitance

RoyalUc:
You are just one bitter soul!

Since when is it a crime to uphold and defend your identity and cultural heritage?
That the Ika or Ukwani/Ndokwa refused to be lumped into your tribe is too big a deal for you to handle.

The Ndokwa Ukwani people for instance are warriors. They've never been defeated and captured by any tribe. As a matter of fact, they fought off any invader, made slaves of people, and even captured and killed Whitemen who ventured into their land (funny enough, till today, church folks still attribute the level of backwardness in that region to the killings, bloodshed and charms done by their ancestors). Till today, they still have the mentality of resisting external influences, including 'western' development.

It might interest you to know that the word for slaves known as 'osu' in your tribe is 'Igbo' in Ndokwa Ukwani.

iSlayer:
Confusion

gregyboy:
Bro Portuguese didnt give benin guns to raid any igbo towns, the guns were acquired by binis with her wealth so stop making it look like Portuguese gave guns to bini for that single reasons nah, infact Portuguese even refused to sell guns to benin untill benin was a Christian country it was after several European arrived the Nigerian coast that binis started acquiring guns from those Europeans
Portuguese refused to sell guns to binis unless they convert which binis were unwilling to do so if any slave raid took place during benin and Portuguese relationship then it was done by bini arms, but after the granted other europeans right to trade in the african coast that those europeans began selling guns to anyone who could acquire it benins acquired more than other tribe because they were more wealthy and again

The benins never raided western igbos for slaves they raided the eastern igbos for slaves rather, the binis had already conquered the western igbos before the Portuguese arrived benin, and a large population of benin migrated to Western igbo areas especially the ika areas that took in much benin population, those unfounded historians that wont research will be talking nonsense....

Benin invaded eastern igbos for slaves and not
Western igbos

Benin invaded Western Yorubas for slave not eastern Yorubas

The western igbos and Eastern Yorubas were under bini control and protection so why would they invade a place they are familiar with and are protecting....

mancoconut:
They were the censored slaves Reno was talking about, for one it makes more sense to arrive at this logical conclusion based on the fact of all the present Igbo speaking subgroups, it's only the Ika, Ikwerre and parts of Ukwuani that love to warm up to the whole "we are from Benin" fantasy... so it's basically the historical Stockholm syndrome of master/slave relationship of these groups (Ika/Ukwuani and Ikwerre) coming into play according to Reno's assertion.

Secondly, it makes sense to discern which slaves in particular Reno was alluding to because the Igbos East of the Niger and parts of present say Enuani on the West banks of the Niger were farther away from any significant control or influence from the so called Benin empire, the slave raid of the Igbos done by the Benin warriors were mostly in the settlements and areas closer to the Benin kingdom, and these group of people who were raided and captured as slaves are the present day Ika whose aboriginal Igbo languages and cultures got immersed and influenced by their Benin slave masters who colonized these people for a significant amount of time. That's why today the Igbo denial syndrome remains very strong among the Ika/Ukwuani axis who are still suffering from the slavery hangover imposed on them by the Benin kingdom.

melodyogonna:
You probably don't know but conquering a people don't mean you enslaved them. What happens is that you impose a ruler and make them part of your empire, when they have enough firepower they fight back and overthrow the ruler you imposed. Slaves are taken during raids or immediately after the conquest by soldiers, they're usually the ones that fought in the battle against the invaders or the first people the invading army laid hands on. My point? Because a section of say ... Ika was ruled by Bini does not mean they were slaves.

iSlayer:
Lolllll

Lucifer1419:
. Oga pack well, be proud of where you come from which is Fulani, the land of a terrorist organization, stop deceiving yourself, and don't quote me again, because I wouldn't reply you back

iSlayer:
Who are they now they've been released. Proud slaves of Bini kingdom. It doesn't get lower than that.

iSlayer:
Don't use Igbo to take Ika damages. The Ika are slavish. Those claims by Reno cannot be extended to the Igbo hinterland and Reno knows it.

iSlayer:
That last part ehn...very disgusting behavior.

Lucifer1419:
. Two Fulani terrorist deceiving themselves claiming to be igbo, cow drunkard urine.

Ojiofor:
They might have enslaved some Igbanke and Agbor people who are their neighbours since there was nothing like Igbo nation then.
Or did Oba of Bini cross River Niger to kidnap slaves? They should specify were their slaves came from since by your own words there was nothing like Igbo nation then.

iSlayer:
I'm suspecting that after fighting off Bini for a while they were recolonized again.

TarOrfeeek:
Itshekiri and Benin kingdom of yesterday will use Igbo slaves.

Except they are Itshekiri and Benin citizens captured as slaves, taught the Igbo language and sold back to their people.

Igbos do that alot. After servitude you are allowed to return.

Remo Onokri a history revisionist is apparently baiting intellectual discourse but doing so from a really low depth of knowledge.

iSlayer:
The Igbo slaves are to be found in Delta according to the writeup. So it is not Igbo nation thing. Bini cannot match the Igbo nation in their wildest dreams. The people in question are the proud Bini slaves, the Ika people.

iSlayer:
Hmmm. Personally I am after shaming them!!!

Nwanyiogwashi:
Go and read about Agbor and bini

iSlayer:
He can't call the names to avoid unnecessary provocation. But the whole world knows it is Ika and Ndokwa.

iSlayer:
Thanks for the upload!


And yes they can't take their tongues out of Bini putrid ass.

Nwanyiogwashi:
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Which ika communities did bini enslaved? Go and read about Agbor and bini war.

iSlayer:
Very very simple. I read of the Portuguese business interest with Bini a long time ago. That guns supplied was how Bini were successfully turning Ika to slaves.

iSlayer:
Grandstanding is okay. But it shouldn't be at the detriment of truth. The outlying Igbo areas to the west were subjugated by Bini over hundreds of years. This was possible because Bini wasn't attacking Igbo as a race, they were raiding individual remote communities. Now in that writeup by Reno if you get the background of events he's talking about, you will realize this sale of Igbo slaves (Ika people) predated the British. The Binis who had a strong monarchy were richly supplied with guns to carry out this raids and subdue this Igbos. This happened much much much earlier than any British misadventure in that area. The names of the ports of collection of Ika and Ndokwa slaves were called Escravos and Forcados, which are Portuguese, and not Harcourt or Douglas (which are British. So Reno is actually right.

The account of Olaudah Equiano strongly supports Reno's position too. Mind you the Igbos in question here are majority Ika, then Ndokwa, then a bit of Enuani.

Juxtaposing Reno's account with the reality today you can see there is an agreement of facts. The Ika are very very slavish to Bini and bear Bini sounding names (as a receipt of slavery). Things dont really change if you follow events closely from the far back periods.

Sufferingboy:
U talk like a baby,I urge reno to say it.Una hatred to destroy una.


Ikas were never slave not even the benins will say that.Many Ikas are most royalties,warrors and farmers from benin.


Look I know what I am saying Ikas were already existing even before Oramiyan came from Uhe(ile-ife).

We were already existing as at the time of ogisos.

Just because we refuse to drop our Identity and pick Igbo identity,Igbos have decided to use their propaganda against us........

Ika people must be special for Igbos to take our matter for head....

Sufferingboy:
Ignorance go kill you,who told you Ikas were ever slaves to benins?

Is this how Igbos think?

I really pity Igbos...

We are not benin,Esans,Igalas,Ndokwa,Aniocha and Igbos were are Ikas

We only acknowledge our amcestry from those group.


Respect yourself and stop disagracing Igbos.