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RobbStark:
And West is what exactly??

1/3 Engenni and 2/3 Ekpeye.

tutudesz:
I can understand an Ogbia man, but an Ogbia man can't understand my very well.
Another example is Urhobo-Isoko

Don't lie bro.
No Izon man can understand an Ogbia man.
That's a blatant lie.
The two languages are totally unrelated.

This is not a case of dialectical variation.

Urhobo and Isoko are both Edoid languages and are intelligible mutually to an extent.

But Ogbia and Izon are two entirely different languages.

Let's start saying the truth for once in this country.
The lies are too much already. How can you say you understand Ogbia language as an Izon man. Bros fear God small nah.

RobbStark:
Don't mistake Ahaoda East n west man

I know what I'm saying.
Ahoada East is 100% Ekpeye.

tutudesz:
Ogbia is a sub group of Ijaw, just like Ika is a sub group of Igbo
Makinde did a town hall meeting with Ijaw in Oyo state and he was surprised that the hall couldn't contain them, we have close to 10k Ijaws in Oyo

Nah.
Ogbia issue is not same as Igbo and Ika.
IKa is obviously an Igboid language.
Ogbia is no way an Ijoid language.
It is classified under "lower cross River" language group.

Just 10k? That's too small nah.

Captain8:
thank you brother...i know more there are more thats why i initially stated 12....

am from delta state...

Engenni owns 1/3 of Ahoada west and they are a distinct ethnic group.
Their language is Edoid. They are only currently politically affliated to Izons for political gains of pipeline protection contract that Ijaws had cornered in Niger Delta.
The remaining 2/3 of Ahoada West belongs to Ekpeye,a distinct and independent Igboid group.

tutudesz:
Ogbia is a sub group of Ijaw
We hardly get involved in politics outside our land and Are you aware Makinde wife is Ijaw

Ogbia is only politically Ijaw.
Ogbia language is totally distinct and different from Ijaw.
We should be telling ourselves the truth in this country.
There are too many lies already.

Everyone is aware that Makinde wife is Ijaw while Akerreodolu wife is Igbo.
What exactly does that have to do with anything?
Oshiohmole wife is from Cape Verde. What does that have to do with the population of Cape Verde people in Nigeria?

Captain8:
dont run o...
six Ijaw LGAs in delta state..
patani 100% Ijaw...
burutu 100% Ijaw..
bomadi 100% Ijaw..
wari north Ijaw Itsekiri..
wari south Ijaw Itsekir..
wari south west Ijaw Urhobo..

oya name your dreaming 9 and 8 LGAs?
dont run o

1.Ika North East
2.Ika South
3.Aniocha South
4.Aniocha North
5.Oshimili South
6.Oshimili North
7.Ukwuani
8.Ndokwa East
9.Ndokwa West

tutudesz:
Local meetings guy we don't have kings outside Ijaw land, what we have is either IYC or INC chapter

Same thing.
If you have significant population in a place, you will be visible and the local power players there would seek for your collective votes during state elections.
Ijaw is a minute ethnic group.
I have travelled all over Nigeria and I know this.

Even GEJ is not ethnically Ijaw. Ogbia is only politically Ijaw.
All things being equal, Ogbia should be an independent ethnic group, considering the fact that their language is totally distinct from Izon.

Captain8:
six Ijaw LGAs in delta state...
bomadi 100% Ijaw..
burutu 100% Ijaw..
patani 100% Ijaw..
wari nort Ijaw Itsekiri..
wari sout Ijaw Itsekiri..
wari south west Ijaw urhobo...
so you name 9 fictitious LGAs?

Lies.
Ijaws are only found in Warri SW and no where else in Warri, I think.
If you have significant population in Delta South, you would have produced a Senator for the zone by now.

tutudesz:
An average Ijaw man stay in another location without you knowing his ethnic group. Oyo state has a large number of Ijaw people and Kano state, but you will not know

Lies.
If they have significant population, they can't hide.
People will know.
They will hold local meetings, probably have a Pere, etc.
Ijaw is the 8th most populous ethnic group in Nigeria, if we remove sentiments.

tutudesz:
Only a truthful population census will determine this

Common observation can also give us clues.
When you leave PH and Bayelsa, you hardly meet Ijaws anywhere else .
They are not that populous.
But you see Ibibios even in far north.
Igbos you can see even in the most remote places in the North and SW.

OfoIgbo:
Bayelsa Ijaws should be about 2 million not counting the Urhobos of Bayelsa.

The remaining Ijaws will be around 1.5 to 2 million

Where is the 1.5 to 2 million coming from?
Mind you that even in Bayelsa, there are groups who are anthropologically never Ijaws but identify as Ijaw today even when the languages are distinct and no way related to Izon. I can these ones political Ijaws. Groups like Epie, Atissa fall into this category.
And in Rivers you have Engenni, Andoni, Abua, Odual, Degema, etc.
These groups are distinct ethnicities with distinct languages, but are politically Ijaw today.
Ijaw numbers at most 1.5 total, after substrating the political Ijaws from the ethnic Ijaws.

tutudesz:
Serioiously figure of almost 60 years

Yes. The past gives birth to the present.
Unless you have evidence to prove that while other groups were castrated and Ijaws started giving birth to six babies at once.

Ebitimi44:
How does 1952 reflect Reality on ground, in 1952 the Eastern region a predominantly Ibo Region and mind you that was the rise of the Igbos when most ethnic Nationalities of the East are mistaken as Igbos, I never doubt the close ties between Igbos and Ijaws but things like these are why Ijaws wants a distinct nationality of Niger Delta because should it be before most of the Izon territories could be erroneously be termed Ibo

No ethnic nationality was mistaken as Igbos.
The British were not your coconut head leaders, they were meticulous people.

See the ethnic census of NIGERIA in 1952. Ijaw was not in the top 5.
Ijaw is like 8th ranked.

1.Hausa
2.Ibo
3.Yoruba
4. Fulani
5.Kanuri
6. Tiv
7.Ibibio
8. IJaw (still debatable, as there are bigger groups like Nupe, etc)

Ijaw is the 7th ethnic group in Nigeria by population.

4th is Tiv, 5th is Ibibio, Kanuri is 6th.
CIA fact book supports this and pre Nigerian independence ethnic census in Nigeria agrees too.
If we separate Hausa from Fulani, then Ijaw becomes pushed back to 8th in the ranking.

https://www.nairaland.com/5494870/tiv-ibibio-joint-4th-most

raker300:
typical response!!

Face the topic and leave comments by others alone!!

So where in the topic is Ndiigbo or Biafra mentioned?
How exactly is this post related to Ndiigbo?
Why have you emotional lots sworn to always put Ndiigbo on the spot of things we have nothing to do with and then attract insults to us?
Emere unu ya eme?

I can already see emotional IPOB people who can't handle their emotions already dragging Ndiigbo into this issue while crying more than the bereaved.

What exactly is wrong with Umu IPOB bikonu? How is it any of our concerns if the Minorities prefer their "peaceful and harmonious" co-existence with Hausa Fulanis?
Can't you guys learn to mind your own business for once?

Tufiakwa! Azhi gbakwa!

bomb24:
hahahahahahahaaha, i'm equally tired my brother.. shameless people.

It's really embarrassing.
They take joy in embarrassing Ndiigbo.

SaintBishop:
You keep reapting your words like an slowpoke!
Asari ancestors are from Kalabari that's why he bears dokubo as name, and call you igbos slaves, you are going tell when Igbo jews start bearing dokubo as names.
Asari made it very clear that you igbos are slaves and his family sold igbos not ijaws as slaves!
Igbos are born slaves there are thousands of igbo slaves in the americans,the caribbeans, Europe and so on, so what nonsense are you talking about?
Talking about undesired igbos are one unwanted elements no one want. You have been chase from everywhere you go,from south african to Ghana, to malaysia, to india to lagos to port harcourt no one want igbo people around them.
Of what importance is population? You igbos that are a majority tribe in Nigeria are you people not worthless when it comes to politics in Nigeria? If you are not useless, why have you guys not rule Nigeria for the past six decades

Lol, Ijaw dumbo talking.
Asari ancestors were Igbos, their family name is Ediabali. That's the totem of Abam warriors who Asari Dokubo ancestors were one of.
They came conquered and continue to rule Ijaw inferiors, thanks to the superior Igbo genes.
On twe the contrary, Igbos are torch bearers everywhere we go.
An Igbo man is a senator in Italy, a senator in Poland, Chief judge in USA, provincial council personnel in Canada, hold MP posts in UK, won league in Cyprus as head coach and given highest National honour, we hold elective posts in Germany.
Look at the Nigerian basketball team, Igbos dominate, it's a harvest of excellence.
Wherever things work,and hard-work and excellence is the criteria to serve, Igbos stand out.

Nigeria Government has been a failure since 1970, and it's no wonder Igbos are not at the helm of it's affairs.

SaintBishop:
You dumb igbo m0ron, jaja was never king in Bonny, he was king in Opobo which was founded by him and his igbo slaves, if you are not a dumb Okoro, you could have know this! Or are you telling me that Opobo belongs to ijaw people?

Ijaw dumbo.
Oko jumbo was rulling in Bonny, and he was Igbo too.
He ruled over Ijaw subordinates.

SaintBishop:
...

Jaja, Oko jumbo, etc were your Igbo overlords.
They sold your people as slaves and ruled you too.
That's how Ijaw language ended up in Berbice.

SaintBishop:
You are nothng but a dumb nincompoop, an ipob m0ron that is what you are.
Asari call igbo slaves because he knows you igbos are worthless piece of shit with no value, and here you are bragging how Asari ( who always call you igbos slaves) is an igbo man and he lord over ijaw people are you Ok?
Asari mother is from Kalabari which makes him 50% Kalabari and 50% whatever, so he has everyright to be president of iyc.
Igbos slaves can not lord over their masters, go and ask Asari who always called you igbos slaves you clown.

Doesn't change the fact that Asari ancestors were Igbos who ruled over Ijaw subordinates.
They even got to sell Ijaw slaves.
It just happened that your race are naturally not endowed with intelligence or hardworking enough to be of much use to slave masters, and worst still,you were and remain minorities without significant population.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbice_Creole_Dutch

See Ijaw slaves descendants in the Americas. You were just not much desired because of your "perculiar" trait that Alameighseigha emphasized on, as well as you lack of numbers.
Yet it didn't stop your Igbo overlords like Oko jumbo, Jaja Opobo and Asari Igbo decendants from selling some of you, even if for a Kobo.

SaintBishop:
And yet you are busy crying how Asari call igbo peple slaves, you even create thread about it! Tell me, how you this natural dumb, or you are just another ipob brain dead nincompoop?

What's the colour of your madness?

That Asari Dokubo now represent Ijaw and was a past Ijaw Youths Council president, does not change the fact that his ancestors were Igbos who ruled over Ijaw subordinates.
That's history.
This thread is about the present. I'm not surprised you like comprehension, intellectual ability has never been the forte of your ilk.

An IPOB member has an Esan chick.
After going three rounds with her, she goes online and make videos claiming that Esan is Biafra and that Bini (who are Esan brothers in every sense of that word, despite few disputes between both groups) are oppressing them.
Then suddenly an Igbo man who said he is not mad, goes about shouting that Esan people are Biafrans?

Kedu Ife ndi Igbo ji isi kotalu ndi IPOB?
Kedu udili Ife mmechu iru and ifele but Ife nka.

mocey:
what is the meaning of esan?

What is the meaning of Igbo?
Which Kain senseless question is this?
What does the meaning of Esan has to do with the fact that Esan people are Edoid people and are completely unrelated to Ndiigbo, culture and language wise?
What is wrong with you guys? Where are your brains?

bomb24:
u're an unredeemable fool! ubiaja or esan are not related to ndigbo neither are they part of biafra.....

These IPOB people are sick in the head.

Dilector told them that Ubiaja is Igbo because the name Ubiaja can be interpreted in Igbo.
What the fools don't know is that Ubiaja has an entirely different meaning in Esan language and that the fact that it has a meaning in Igbo language is but a mere coincidence.


These lots are borderline retarded and are making Ndiigbo look stupid.

Tufiakwa.

BiafIntel:
Illiterate. Type the meaning of related, learn and shut the fucuck up.

Typical brainwashed IPOB.
Ubiaja is not related to Ndiigbo.
You lots take delight in bringing disgrace to Ndiigbo from inconsequential corners.

nengibo:
Borrowed Ndoki tradition, reconfigured to Ibani standard

So Ndoki is no longer Ijaw?

BiafIntel:
Igodomigodo is the key that opens the door. These people are called Ubiaja people or Esan people. They are related to Igbos and have nothing to do with Benin people who are the descendants of IleUbinu from IleIfe. The Benin people are yoruba migrants into Ubiaja land, the land of the Esan people and they will be forced to go back to IleIfe when Biafra is restored. Type Ubiaja people on google to learn more about these grea Esan people.

The way you guys reason is pathetic.

Ubiaja people are not related to Ndiigbo. They are Esans. How do I know? I have been there.
MNK went to Radio and told you that Ubiaja is Igbo, and you swallowed it all with no questions.
Tufiakwa.

PassingShot:
Spin it however you want, no individual is greater than the country.

So, NOTHING will happen should terrorist Kanu die in custody. Sink that in!

Kanu is not an individual.
He is a representative of millions of Biafrans scattered all over the world and Nigeria.

Buhari should not start what he cannot finish.

afube:
Igbo nationalism is ensconced in the Biafra struggle, I daresay Igbo nationalism was also ensconced in the ekumeku guerilla struggle against British colonialists in the 1890s -1910s, even now Igbo nationalism is fuelling the call for restructuring of the zoo..............the struggle is multi-faceted and the Fulani power mongers should get ready for one hell of a struggle................. if Britain fit run na fulani wey no go pick race, their evil hegemony is on its last legs.

Stop muddling things up.

IPOB Biafra is anti Igbo nationalism.
Igbo national interests cannot be contained within IPOB multi ethnic BIAFRA where Igbophobic Minorities have to be constantly pampered and their Igbophobic behaviors played down or ignored, just to keep them in.

You lots should stop confusing yourselves.

You don't have minorities support and you are fast losing Igbo support. You will soon become bats.