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Deadlytruth:
Well, Isaac Boro gave so many reasons in his memos as to why he believed Ijaws were being oppressed by Igbos, and Igbo leaders did nothing to address his complaints just as Nigeria is currently doing to the SS. So I find your story's first part quite incredible.

On the second part: I remember you and I have had debates here in which you justified Zik's decision to reject Awolowo's all-south coalition proposal but align with the North to irreversibly enslave the whole South under the North in order to avenge Awolowo's refusal for him to become Western Region Premier earlier on. If Boro was myopic for "sacrificing" the larger picture in seeking for revenge in such manner, then why do you justify Zik's decision to align with the North which equally was a sacrificing of the larger picture in order to avenge Awolowo?

Awo was never a sincere man, he was psyching out both Zik and the North, looking to pick the winning team between the two regions to pitch his tent with, the two regions found out and it boomeranged on Awo. Awo played the same game on Gowon and Ojukwu with favourable outcome that time around because of the failure of Aburi.

These are historical facts that had been mentioned time and time again on this forum by many Igbos here like Dede1, Deridegull and Duru1, but that Yorubas have failed to accept.
Awo insincerity killed a possible United southern front, though I don't expect you to accept that.

On Boro's issue, as of the time in discuss, crude oil wasn't Eastern region mainstay of income, Palm oil and Coal were, and much of these two were gotten from Igboland, Ibibiolands, Efikland and Annang, so I wonder the marginalization Boro was talking about when most of the rural areas in the East other than Urban centres like PH, Enugu, Calabar, Onitsha were pretty much undeveloped as of then. It wasn't like crude oil were being siphoned from his rural Ijawland to build Enugu. Enugu had coal that was used to build it. It wasn't built off the proceeds from the Ijaw man's country.

Was he expecting the Whole Eastern region meagre income to be spent developing just his rural Ijaw areas? When most of the rural parts of the East were pretty much just the same.

kropotkin2:
Nice talk but the problem with your point of view is that the rest of the Nigerian state will not permit any such referendum without an initial recourse to force. A referendum is alien to the constitution of Nigeria. You failed to take this fact into consideration when you theoretically destroyed our country on the internet

That's the whole point of the strategy.

We don't expect Nigeria( Hausa-Fulani, their northern slaves and their Yoruba vassals) to accept division of Nigeria without a fight.

We need a northern buffer and a southern buffer to nullify and stop them at Benue borders.

A pro secession and anti Nigerian SS will provide Ndiigbo with a Western and southernern buffer zone, while a pro secession Idoma/ Igalla, provides us a Northern buffer zone.

Unlike in 1967-70, we wouldn't be fighting many battles at same time, with that scenario.

Thanks.

Deadlytruth:
Please how did he sell his people into slavery? Who exactly are his people?
In actual fact he tried to free his real people from the fraud called "One-Nigeria" but was betrayed by a neighbouring tribe which was still loving "One Nigeria". This "One-Nigeria" people fought him, got him arrested, killed his soldiers and sentenced him to death for trying to pull his people out of "One-Nigeria" fraud. But before they could execute their death sentence on him, they themselves were dethroned and killed. Those who took over power decided to release Boro unconditionally. After that the one-Nigerianists declared secession from Nigeria, and Isaac Boro decided to revenge by fighting against the one Nigerianists who earlier jailed him for the same "offence" of declaring secession. Was that how he betrayed his people and sold them into slavery? If he really sold his people into slavery by avenging Ojukwu's crushing of Niger Delta Republic, then why have his people now decided to honour him by placing his picture on their currency? Stop insulting Isaac Boro, he fought gallantly for his people unlike Zik who kept chanting "One Nigeria" while his brothers were being slaughtered by those he wanted to form his "One Nigeria" with.

Even though your story is very far from the truth. But let's hypothetically entertain it as the truth for one second.


Is getting revenge over Ojukwu more worth it than fighting for secession of Eastern region, knowing that it would be easier to achieve his aim of Ijaw secession from Bia**** than from Nigerians who are not his neighbours. As of 1965, the Eastern region was strategically positioning and building up PH to rival and outshine Lagos as the nation's premier coastal, industrial and commercial city, to this end all necessary logistics were provided by the Eastern region government to enable successful transfer of Shell headquarters from Owerri to PH, and industrial estates established all over the city, and all these with just palm oil and Coal. An independent Eastern region would have continued in that vein with all the billions of petrol dollars invested in that city, PH would have been competing with Johannesburg today. And yet PH is a city Ijaws have a stake in and live right next to.

Even after dying at the hands of Nigerians with crude oil from his land siphoned to build up Lagos and Abuja, leaving his region in dilapidation, is it not obvious from hindsight that Adaka took the wrong decision fighting for Nigeria against Bia****?

One thing is sure, his co traveller, Saro Wiwa after seeing the way Lagos was being built up with Niger Delta neglected, regretted fighting against the Eastern region.

I wouldn't go as far to say that Boro was silly, but I would say that he was naive, unstratetegic and driven by emotions rather than foresight. His actions will be akin to Ndiigbo joining Hausa-Fulani and their Yoruba partners to fight Niger deltans, simply because we wanted to pay them back for supporting the Hausa-Fulani and Yorubas against Eastern region.

Or us not supporting GEJ to pay them back for supporting Gowon against Ojukwu. It reeks of naivety and lack of foresight. Cos in the end, such actions will mean that we will both lose.

2. I don't really think the Yoruba will lose as many are postulating here. Firstly, many of d offshore oil will fall under that country beside their new discoveries.

Keep dreaming. Better stop coveting someone's wealth, haba! Na charm?

theDEVILisHERE:
Anything championed by ndigbo, Niger delta, Ijaw, Idoma, Ibibio or what ever random ethnic crap is bound to fail

Anything championed by the Eastern region will succeed cause that is the authentic identity of the people of that Area

Lol! That's no strategy. Eastern region failed in her first attempt at secession because she was blockaded, if those issues that led to her first blockade is not slighted out, she will be blockaded again and will fail again.


Buhari's first mission on resuming power, was to travel all over the world signing pacts with world powers and our immediate neighbors in Niger, Cameroun and the rest, he is a Fulani man that understands the "game of power" wella, and you are here being so sunstrategic.

Ndiigbo is never going to successfully secede from Nigeria, if we don't find away to make our immediate neighbors in SS and North central( Igala and Idoma) want out of Nigeria more than us.

You think Kanu is stupid when he was drawing Bia*** map to include the whole of SS ( carefully excluding Edo) and then including Igalla and Idoma?
Do you realistically think that he doesn't know that those people will not actually end up in the same nation with Ndiigbo? Think again.

In summary:

Ndiigbo can't afford to be Blockaded again by Hausa-Fulani and their Yoruba partners using our immediate pro Nigerian neighbors.
We would ensure this by:

1. Making sure that our Sea corridor and Western borders towards Edo is peopled by a pro secession SS nation ie ND nation, that will not be used by the Fulani Hausas to blockade us or invade us.

2. Securing our Northern borders by instigating a pro secession Igalla and Idoma nation's that would resist being used as a launching pad by Nigerians to attack our Northern borders.

The above is what the shout of a United ND + Ndiigbo+ Igalla and Idoma have been all about.
Not the OP silly Nigerian parasitic fascination with crude delusions, unless you can tell me that Igalla and Idoma have crude oil too, because apparently, Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB have their eyes set on Igala and Idoma as integral parts of Bia****, when in truth it is only hoped that with time, enough agents would have been radicalized within those groups that would stand up and push for the secession of those groups from Nigeria.

All our immediate neighbors must not become Bia***s, but they must atleast be made to become pro secession to ease our own secession from the colonial British contraption, that's the end game.

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OP is a Yoruba man.

But nevertheless, I think his post deserve a response to set things right.

Igbo agitation for independent nation that will not include Yorubas and Hausas have always had non Igbo inclusion from SS because, we don't want a situation were the Hausa-Fulanis and their Yoruba partners will use the non Igbo clans in SS against Ndiigbo.

In the light of the above, it became imperative that for Ndiigbo to secede successfully, we needed a strongly pro secession and anti Nigerian SS that will not be used as willing tools to stop us. But since no such pro secession group had arose from the SS, it became strategic that we included and welcomed them in our secession plans.

But now that NDA is filling the vacuum by bridging the disconnect between the SE and SS and connecting the two regions as pro secession zone, we mustn include any non Igbo speaking group in our nation , it's their right to chose, but we maintain that a plebiscite must be conducted in every Igbo speaking territory in current SS, for the people to chose between Bia*** nation and ND republic.

I understand that we also need a pro secession Igalla and Idoma, to prevent them from serving as launching pads to the Hausa-Fulani and their Yoruba partners in their March to the East. A pro secession Igala and Idoma also means that we can reclaim our Igbo speaking territories currently trapped in Oju, Okpokwu and Obi LGAs of Benue state.

Niger Delta republic is fully welcomed by Ndiigbo, as long as free referendum be conducted in all Igbo speaking territories of current SS Post secession to decide if they would reunite with the rest of Igbo speaking nation in SE or remain with their good non Igbo neighbors in ND republic.

Anything that will lead to the collapse of Lugard contraption is highly welcomed.

MadCow1:
You know the world has come to an end when a Ugandan thinks they are better than Nigeria..


Even in our worst state, Uganda will and shall never be better than Nigeria.

And to those low self esteemed Igbos who think joining those Ugandans to insult the nation of their birth would make Biafra happen any quicker please continue. One thing is for sure, the child who joins outsiders to call his fathers house a pig sty will still be known as the Guy whose fathers house is a pig sty.

I am Nigerian.. and proudly so.

#iAmNigerian..

Nigeria is not, has never been and cannot be Igbo fatherland or Motherland.

koboko69:
Mtcheeeeew. Typical of ekpas. Now i provided a link to back up my arguments, this is what u can put forward?

I guess Obama transformed the economy in one year .

How u people reason baffles me. Comparing Obama who is about leaving the white house after how many years? With Buhari who will just be in 1 year in office May 29.

You better shift!

Right from the start, Obama always looked a bright prospect and he hit the ground running fast and furious.

First one year of an administration gives an insight of what the administration will achieve,as its the stage of policies formulation.

Everything about Buhari government have failure written all over it, and the more he fails, the more he would draw attention to perceived GEJ shortcomings to deflect attention on his incompetence, not that he needs to do that anyway, as his fanatics would support him no matter what.

koboko69:
You are a liar

The Blame Game at Its Finest: 21 Times Obama Has Passed the Bucks

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/the-blame-game-at-its-finest-21-times-obama-has-passed-the-buck/#ixzz49c3gPmFX
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/the-blame-game-at-its-finest-21-times-obama-has-passed-the-buck/

This lame arguments ate really pathetic

Obama was never a failure. He turned US economy around. He never hid behind Bush failures to hide his own incompetence. He was competent and delivered.

Buhari on the other hand, up till now has been an epitome of failure.

Obama inherited an American economy in bad shape.

We didn't see him condemn Bush or use Bush as an alibi for his own incompetence, he tackled the problems he inherited from Bush administration head on, and today USA is in much better shape all round.

If Nigeria were great, would there have been a need for a messiah Buhari to ride on people's ignorance and tribal bigotry to the presidential seat?
Why is Buhari complaining about the same problems that made people to vote him to start with?
If those problems weren't there, would there have been a need for a messiah which Buhari represents in the eyes of his deluded fans?

A failure will always look to assign the reason for his continuous failure to everything and everyone else, but himself.

olajide8:
To correct you* I come from ondo state and the oil producing part for that matter- so you can call me an ijaw man*- what development can you see in ilaje? Ask ambode* we don't have light- But theres peace* royalties are paid to the F.G from what comes from this area- but what do we see, ijaws from bayelsa come to kidnap people in Ondo state, does that make sense to you? That is parasitism* now to another issue, yes we have a right to tell them -whom to vote, because if there is trouble because of mis-governance like there was in the past in borno state, (at least you know about boko-haram) it does not concern them alone again, it would concern the whole country* now to other issues, can you have a country in another country? If it's not possible then where their rights end is where another persons start* What the niger-deltans, do should concern all nigerians- because it affects the price of oil in the international market* and cost of a bag of rice on their own table, further more nigeria is is classified as a producer of oil because of this same reason* and not because of them, the land mass under which they are classified is called nigeria, and it borders Chad, Cameroon, niger etc- so it affects FG, to break it into something more understandable, the FG is the guarantor or collateral, given to oil companies for exploration in the delta, (do you think the average niger-deltan has the capacity to explore or produce oil? On his own? Without these international oil companies?) and the belief that oil would be found in the niger-delta!

I don't see the relevance of you being from Oil producing part of Edo to own argument. We are talking about Niger Delta , no Ondo state.

If Ilaje people are comfortable wit the Rest of Nigeria parasiting on their resources and paying them peanuts, fine and well, it's of no concern to Niger deltans.

Niger deltans demand to have 100 percent of their resources and to pay taxes from their proceed to the FG, is a legitimate demand and does not in anyway affect the man at Nigeria-Chad/Niger border, if he is not parasitic.

seunmsg:
OBJ'S first budget was N800 billion, now, we are talking of financing a N6trillion budget. The minimum wage as at the time OBJ took over was less than N4000 before he increased it to N7500. Today, it's N18000 and labour are already calling for increase. So bro, times are very different. Nobody, not even OBJ can do any miracle with Nigeria's economy if crude oil prices remain as low as we've seen since last year.

This is an ignorant line of argument that Sunnybobo eviscerated here:https://www.nairaland.com/3104619/why-wont-protest-against-fuel/3

Please desist from spreading that ish, it makes you look ignorant.

hucienda:
CDS go be like...

"NDA, we're coming for you!"

And NDA be like:

" CDS, you are coming in one piece, but you will go in pieces".

Adminisher:
IGNORAMUSES

These gun boats are very capable. They are refurbished for engine power and gunnery calibre upgrade. The very thick fibre glass hulls will stop .50 calibre munitions and self seal. They won't stop RPGS but the a good boat Driver will maneuver to prevent direct hits.
Most NA gun boats also have fore and aft mounting of 12.7mm machine guns and a few grenade launchers.

Operational tactics is evolving to emphasise convoy boat movement with helicopters keeping watch from miles away.

No Niger Delta militant group can match the NA in terms of resources. We have not even started of Navy SBS operations that you won't even see until they are blowing you away. They will watch you singing songs in your camp with night vision Googles and keep tabs. Niger Delta militants are good in water abi? What about people who come from under water and can call on surface and air elements to blast you away?.
Please let us stop childishNess on Nairaland.

Propaganda, you must be a Yoruba or an APC member, or even worst, ie APC Yoruba.

olajide8:
Hahahahahaa* this is the greatest joke of the century, with 13% derivation how much development has been done in the niger-delta, let's call a spade a spade, a bunch of people that cannot organise themselves and conduct peaceful elections A bunch of people that grew a few militants into billionaires at the expense of the majority - all the illegal refineries polluting the environment are harboured by these same people and the crude is stolen from the same pipelines which spill and contaminate th environment and you tell me resource control is the answer in that part of nigeria? Do we fail to realise that so many people felt sadam was the problem of Iraq and america removed him, today Iraq has been in perpetual war for years and it's not about to abate, the problem is not resource control, the problem is the people of the niger delta, that fail to understand that, they can build and have a dubai in the delta- even with oil exploration if they vote in the right governors* and council chairmen* they should go and check themselves

It's not within your rights to tell them how to manage their resources or who and who not to vote.

If you want peace in the delta, stop the parasitism, let Niger deltans manage their resources like Texans do, let them pay tax to the FG.

It shouldn't be your concern how the Niger Deltans end up using their God given resources, after all, Osun is not doing great,politically and Economically, you should worry more about that than what is happening in the SS.

Owerre Ezukala, ndi ohe mbe anyi. Agajem ibia taa ighu la nmi ngwo maka ezhigbo newsunu biaje mbe anyi.

I am more interested in the second lady in the pic. She looks like nwa ada, very beautiful.

dumie:
Yes they do, its the main dish there

Ok. Thanks.

"if-I'm-not-sure-I'll-make-it-alone-then-Let-us-all-stick-together-and-see-if-we-could-make-it-together-in-a-jealous-tribalistic-wicked-painful-way mentality. "


This is the essence.

15. OPL 288 was awarded to focus Energy Senator Andy Uba, Obasanjo, and Gen Theophilus Y Danjuma are the major stakeholders. The field worth $70 billion Dollars.
16. OPL 291 was awarded to Starcrest Energy Nigeria Limited owned by Emeka Offor. The field worth $100 billion Dollars.


Andy Uba and Emeka Offor. These are the kind of Igbos who together with their wards, friends and family members scream "one Nigeria" so that they can continue parasiting on other people''s oil wealth.

They are selfish bunch and easily serve as easy pawns to the Hausa-Fulani oligarchy and their allies and would readily spoil any attempt Ndiigbo plan towards leaving Nigeria. They are the enemies within.

NDA please strip them of the ND oil wells, let's expose what their patriotism towards Nigeria is built on.

For those who want to See pics of Enugu, below is a thread dedicated for Enugu, go knock yourself out.


https://www.nairaland.com/979128/enugu-pride-east/129

Btw, posting posh pictures of Enugu here will be waste of time, as we might end up stretching this thread to many pages with pics, but still achieve nothing, cos in the end, our personal bias will not give way for objective assessment. But good a thing Enugu got the nod here:http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/12/enugu-makes-history-joins-worlds-100-resilient-cities/
That's an independent source.

PH is only Nigeria's third city, because of the cashflow. But if we are only looking at cashflow, then even Aba and Onitsha ranks higher up than Enugu in that regard.

Abagworo:
Enugu is not a higher city than Port Harcourt. It is rather a laid back city with less distortion of its master plan. Port Harcourt is like a real city and comes behind Lagos and Abuja in terms of advancement not beauty.

That's your personal opinion. Sorry if I don't share it.

I have been to PH before, and see nothing Mega about it. Just a city flowing with oil money with exorbitant food and commodities prices.

Enugu ranks many times higher as a city than PH, and good a thing the international community agrees with me:http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/12/enugu-makes-history-joins-worlds-100-resilient-cities/

Opinions are a.ssholes, everyone has their own.
I personally feel that the only Nigeria city that can beat Enugu in city planning, serenity and organization is only Abuja.

I have been to PH before, and was not in any bit impressed. I strongly rank Enugu as a city higher than PH.

I am biased? Well likewise every other poster here, including the OP, so what are independent non biased experts saying?

Well, look here:http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/12/enugu-makes-history-joins-worlds-100-resilient-cities/

dumie:
Not complete without Nsala soup

Does Asaba eat Nsala? I am just curious. Thought is just an Anambra north and central soup?