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Momcherry:
Op this Op that..ahn.. ahnn!
What I've come to realise is that you deltans are just too proud. Can't you add your own recipe/method without bashing the op? Or search net and post your own pic (food wey some of una no sabi cook sef na only to eat )?
One even said its ofe ekwu whatever..
That you call it ekwu (palmfruit) doesn't mean that others should join u in calling it ekwu. Some call it akwu, nkwu, mkpuru nkwu, efu etc.There are
different dialects in this country...ok

It's the normal " Ah no be ibo, ah be ika from bini" sentiment, common amongst his people, that is worrying him.

Everything that will make him appear Igbo must be twisted and distorted until it becomes Igbo looking ( Igboid) without being Igbo proper

Who doesn't know that in some Igbo dialects, the letter "a" can be substituted with "e" ? You find this in Nkanu dialects In Enugu alot. In which case, aka( hand) is pronounced as "eka", abuo( two) is pronounced as "ebuo/ ebuno", afufu ( suffering) is pronounced as "efufu/ehuhu", akpa( bag) as "ekpa".

This is found all over Igboland, even in some Ebonyi dialects, but you won't see people from those parts trying to stress those minute differences,they know better. But trust these "ah no be ibo" people to come with their wahala.

evadreams:
Wetin u dey talk... na banga soup everybody know am to be , i dey ibadan n my yoruba friends dey say dem wan chop banga soup nobody even dey call am Akwu. For d records our own banga soup dey different from dat Akwu

Banga abi nah knockout soup, is not and can never be the same as "Ofe akwu". No one cares if your Yoruba friends eat knockout abi na Banga soup. That's your own problem, not mine.

wirinet:
First, i am not yoruba, you guys need to stop calling anybody that disagrees with your opinion as yoruba. All the examples you gave are pre- civil war Nigeria, i am taking about post civil war Nigeria. In the 1951 federal legislative elections Zip and his NCNC won all the five seats in Lagos, the party also won seven of the eight seats in Ibadan; it won seats in many other towns such as Abeokuta, Oyo, Ife, Ilesha and Oshogbo. So Obong of calabar winning elections in eastern regions house of chiefs or an Ijaw winning student union election in igboland was no big deal then. The problem is today. let a non igbo go to Anambra or Enugu and become the speaker of the house of representatives, let a non Igbo get elected as NAN's president at UNN or even vice counsellor, then i would agree that igbos are not tribalistic as the rest of Nigeria.

You are not as clever as you think you are. Show me Eyo Ita equivalent in the Western region? When Obong of Calabar ruled the Eastern house of chiefs, what was the state of Oba of Bini at the hands of Yoruba Obas? Was he not reduced to a second class traditional ruler in the western region.
Obong of Calabar ruling the Eastern house of chiefs in an Igbo dominated region, ahead of prominent Igbo kings like Eze Nri, Eze Aro , Obi of Onitsha and Obi Nnewi is a big deal, as no minority king in the Western or Northern region occupied same status then.

NCNC Yoruba candidates won posts in the Western region, not their non Yoruba candidates. You must remember that Lagos was administered as a separate region and that NCNC under Macaulay was first a Western party.


Even if the Igbo of today elects a Kanuri man as a governor, you will still sweep it under the rug or try to chalk it up as nothing tomorrow, as you are already attempting to write off the ones they did yesterday, you are a very insincere person.

Even in this modern era, Ndiigbo choose GEJ a non Igbo in 2011, when Northern candidates were offering us the option of being a VP. Nothing stopped Ndiigbo from negotiating with the North for an Igbo VP in 2011 and dumping GEJ. But for the sake of equity and justice, the Igbos stuck with a non Igbo GEJ, even to the end.

I'm yet to see any other Nigerian group that will do such. Do you know how many times Buhari choose an Igbo VP in elections, yet Ndiigbo chose non Igbo PDP candidates over him.


Ndigbo owe you or any naysayers nada, history and posterity speaks for us.

Victorvexz:
See how dem go there with Biafra handkerchief, why not flag. They snap photo for propaganda for Ipob youth to celebrate. But unfortunately, nnanmdi Kanu does not recognize this people, they are different from the Kanu Ipob, radio Biafra usually lambast and insults them everytime saying that Kanu is the real Ipob leader. this is just a meeting of so called indeginous people , and not Biafra. But they go scam them, claiming they are indigenous people , what have the U.N done since army they kill them since

I feel your pain bro, Ndo.

wirinet:
Please stop playing with semantics, minority in politics or demographics is used strictly in terms of numbers or population, it has nothing to do with ancestral lands. Minority leader in a legislative house does not mean someone without ancestral land, it simply means his party has less members in the house than the opposite party. Likewise a minority in a country simply means their population is minor compared to other demographic groups. American Indians are termed minority in the USA despite they being aboriginal to the land.

Now, tell me what political organization would allow someone from a minority tribe of say 15% of the population to become president of a country in which a particular tribe has 50% in a democracy, especially in Africa with high tribal and religious sentiments? Unless you are proposing some other form of government outside democracy.

The same political arrangement that made Adaka Boro the Student union president in an Igbo dominated pre war UNN.

The same political arrangement that saw the emergence of Obong of Calabar as the head of the Eastern region house of chiefs, ahead of Igbo traditional chiefs like Eze aro, Eze nri and Obi Nnewi.

Same that allowed a Fulani man to stand elected as the Mayor of Igbo capital city.

You are dabbling into what you know nothing about. I understand that as a Yoruba, inter ethnic politics is hard for you to grasp, seeing as the Yorubas never had to deal with anybody else in day to day living other than their fellow Yoruba people.

wirinet:
You lie or are ignorant. The three main parties were given the mandate to negotiate Nigeria's post independence constitution during the 1954 constitutional conference, the AG led by Awolowo and the NPC lead by Balewa proposed that the right of secession should be included in the constitution but NCNC lead by Zik vehemently opposed it and pushed for a tightly bound united / unitary structured constitution.



Whether you accept it or not Zik was instrumental to forcing a one Nigeria on us. And as you are aware, once a marriage takes place, divorce is often a very difficult and painful affair, even with a single couple.

I do not see the feasibility of a country where over 50% of the population will be one tribe, there cries of Marginalization would be 10 times what we have in Nigeria today. How will any other tribe win elective positions - especially the presidency.

Other than this edited Wikipedia entry. Do you have any valid colonial evidence to prove that secession was ever placed as an option before the regions, by the British.

I want to see a valid colonial document on this, as the era we speak of is in colonial era.
Thanks.
NB: Anybody can edit the Wikipedia.

Zik never forced one Nigeria on any group, Zik didn't command an Army to be able to coerce anyone into the one Nigeria project. Zik sold the one Nigeria project to his peers, and they bought it. They were not coerced nor were they under duress, they reserved the right to reject Zik nationalistic proposal.

For you to go about using the words: " Zik was instrumental to forcing one Nigeria on us", makes for a distortion and mis representation of historical facts.

If the last part of your essayast is in referral to Bia- nation, then you are wrong. Eastern region had over 50% of Igbo population and was still the fastest growing region in the country pre civil war, and also the most peaceful.
Eyo Ita a minority ruled the region, Obong of Calabar was the leader of the Eastern house of chiefs.

Igbos had formed s strong bond with all non Igbo groups of Eastern region through common trade, marriage, traditions and culture that we had a United religion, political ideology and cultural direction, so much that while the western region burnt in wild wild west, and the North was going in flames in Tiv and Jos riots, the East remained peaceful, go figure.

Reyginus:
You are right. I don't think he had such powers but he played greater role in actualizing this fragile unity than in splitting. His love for Nigeria was too great he talked about forgetting our differences when others tried to understand these differences. Even in Biafra war he stood with Nigeria.

No one can say it was Zik who formed Nigeria. The British loathed him but for some reasons he thought he could outsmart the Brits by bringing order out of their chaos. A kind of using ones weapon of attack against him. I don't see how it will work in this case. No one can also say he stooped Nigeria from splitting.

I think I can work with the above.

But it must be stressed that Zik appeared to be initially in support of Ojukwu, but switched sides when he saw that the British was backing Nigeria 100 percent while Ojukwu was not able to get any of the Caucasian powers to cancel out the British effect, Zik knew where it was all going to end , he is a selfish slut in that sense.

There are even some who believed that Zik served as a spy for the British against Biafra,too many sh*** passing around.

In the end Zik was a naive individual, speaking with the benefit of hindsight, that is.

Reyginus:
Everything you wrote above is true. But then Zik never showed a desire to break the country up.

He was more nationalistic than the other two. What is the point of Nationalism when parties in a Union love their tribes more than the nation?

I still wonder why Zik believed this country is better of as One. I've seen our differences in Culture, Religion, Language, Traditions, etc., and I believe he must have thought about this too.

Then what exactly did he see in this Union that others like Awo did not see? It's simple to put it down to selfishness but is it really possible? I don't think it is but is it?

Zik was naive and selfish, granted. But it will be tantamount to folly, for anyone to insinuate that Zik ever had the powers to divide Nigeria. Cos he never did.

Just for challenging the British right to rule directly, Zik had already been marked to be politically emasculated by the British, and the North was rewarded for being obedient servants.

Damn, Zik couldn't even become a commanding president, he wasn't able to win the Lagos power he so much desired, he never had power to achieve all these smaller feats, yet people will tell us that it was Zik who stopped Nigeria from dividing.

He stopped the North from secceding, he had the power to break up a British set up, but couldn't break up a Yoruba gang up in Lagos, or the British gang up that reduced him to a president with no real executive powers.

Cool story.

Reyginus:
It's quite unfortunate. The Brits love the show. That Britain(I'd add America) has order is because some countries have chaos. To maintain this position of power that's the best option they could cone up with.

ORDER OUT OF CHAOS is the motor of the Caucasian race.

To remain on top of the food chain, the rest of the races have to be in chaos, that they might have order.

The riches in Brussels must be maintained by the squalor in Congo DR.

It was not the British that imposed one Nigeria on us, it was the Igbos. The British gave us the opportunity to go our separate ways during independence, the Hausas and Yorubas were ready to go it alone, but zik and his tribesmen said no,

There was never a time Zik or anyone had the power to disintegrate Nigeria, the British never made the disintegration of Nigeria an option. I find it funny when Yorubas assign mystical power of Nigeria disintegration to Zik.

If you have an independent( not Ibadan press) print evidence of the British ever offering Nigerian regions the option of independent existence, Post it here let me see. This Ibadan propaganda had lasted a lot, it's time it's totally debunked and expunged.

The North wanted to continue under the British rule, they were delaying the independence day, Zik worked to hasten the independence day. How exactly does that equate to Zik having the mystic powers of dividing the British Nigeria.

Sctests:
Harold wilson stood in front of the parliament in 1967 and declared that a neutral Britain is a big victory for the Biafrans and he was right.

Spot on! Today! The Blood of Niger deltans, that is shell, that is Agip, that is Chevron, that is Mobil. They vampires of the black race, they are having a big feast.

2sexycom:
The man you quoted is a Niger Deltan

Yes, I'm from bujumbura.

The British deserved it, they sponsored the Nigerians 100percent during the war, without the British unlimited heavy weapon supply,Gowon and his troops would have been decimated and annihilated by angry and patriotic Easterners.

Without the British, one Nigeria would had ceased existing in 1966, the North were even tired of one Nigeria and was screaming Araba( Division, secession) in the 1966 northern Riots and Easterners massacre. It was the British who convinced them to re evaluate their Araba stance and change it to one Nigeria, after showing them the rich potentials and Eastern oil wells and promised them 100 percent support to claim with. With their 40 % commission.

A worker is worthy of his wages. The British earned their stake in the Nigerian oil sector, it was won in the battle fronts, and can only be taken from them at the battle fronts.

dvee2:
IT DOESNT MATTER IF THE IPOBS ARE DOING IT BECAUSE KANU IS ARRESTED OR NOT,OR BECAUSE GEJ LOST ELECTION OR NOT.
WHAT MATTERS IS DOES KANU COMMIT AN OFFENCE UNDER THE NIGERIAN LAW OF TREASONABLE FELONY.YES OR NO?
SHOULD A NIGERIAN WHO COMMIT SUCH A GRIEVIOUS OFFENCE BE FREED BECAUSE HE SPEAK A CERTEIN LANGUAGE,YES OR NO?
HAVE YOU SEEN OR LISTEN TO KANU CALLING FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF HIS FATHERLAND AND KILLING OF HIS COMPATRIOTS EVEN TO THE EXTENT OF SOLICITING FOR FUNDS TO CARRY OUT SUCH ACTS,YES OR NO?
WILL ANY OF THE WESTERN COUNTRY ESPECIALLY UK WHERE KANU RESIDE TOLORATE WHAT KANU IS DOING FROM THEIR CITIZEN,YES OR NO?
IF YOU THROW AWAY ETHNICITY AND BIGOTRY,YOU WILL FIND THE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTIONS.

Let me guess, You are a Yoruba Man, such a Yorubatic reasoning process you displayed above is pathognomic of your group.

TheGoodJoe:

Let us see where the money to clean the land from the massive pollution will come from.

Let us see where the money to treat the children who will drink from polluted water will come from.

So, it's a case of either ND allow you lots to finish her oil before you let her go, or she self destructs before you look elsewhere to survive.

The issue is that even among those who live in that geographical area that used to be called Biafra, is there a consensus that they want self-determination? Among those who are there, there is no consensus. Those young people got together because they never experienced war, they never knew the trauma of the civil war in which more than two million Nigerians died. They are the ones beating the drums of self-determination.


If you do a referendum in that geopolitical part of the country, I am sure that a larger number will prefer to stay within the Nigerian federation. Why did we fight that 30-month grueling civil war to keep Nigeria one if at the end of the day, people will just stand up and say ‘we are dismembering the country’? I am sure that generation that fought the war, that generation is still around, will never be part of that kind of quest.


What exactly is this Yoruba man talking about? Is he threatening the Igbo nation with intent of killing another 2 million of us to maintain his servitude to his Fulani masters in his phantom one Nigeria?

What message was actually trying to pass across? That we must accept on Nigeria like our parents did, or risk 2 million of us gettin massacred by Nigerians, like they did our parents?

omonnakoda:
Any car you can drive without fuel

It's called leggedize Benz! Though you will need organic fuel, phosphorus base.

This is a big scandal. So this is the Bini monarchy that silly Anioma clans are mimicking and licking their buttocks.

Choi! Ikegwuru, I just weak, what a tragedy.

Abeg, this thread should not make the front page, the shame is too much, even me come dey shame for Bini.
Bini obviously was a land of many assimilated migrants.

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Norajones:
I was there life last night and was impressed by the outcome of people who came in crowd to watch the match. Oh biafran flags were flying high and people were jumping,shouting for joy @ sighting the flags. The policemen were confused and just stood still as some guys take the flags round the whole stadium when live match was going on.

Rangers was the soul of the East right after the war, the only way we could pour our anger on Nigerians after losing the war, it was to us, what Barcelona is to Catalonia.

It will be great if we can make her great again.

Imo the pride of Igboland, ndi eji eje mba.

It was in Ahiara Imo state that Ojukwu addressed the Entire Eastern region, and made the famous Ahiara declaration speech.

ikukuhero:
Thanks. But, in Ika, it's called Ofe Ekwu or Ofe Eku, not Akwu. Ika's call palm fruits ekwu or eku, not akwu. Ask your aged one's at Agbor, Abavo and Owa areas.

Who cares about what you call it in Ika? It's called Ofe Akwu in Asaba and every part of SE, and that's the name the rest of Nigeria knows.

Stop being clannish.

oyb:
the highlighted is the fallacy in all the rants about the east. you guys are 95% TRADERS. your biggest and only market is the rest of nigeria. you are not agrarian in nature. it is the height of folly if you imagine that a shrinking customer base will not affect you.

is it your states that do not have debt? outside of anambra, do you think you actually have any viable states in the east?

most importantly, you omitted what happened when your guys pallying with the militants got nothing. they turned on the east. have you forgotten just how bad it was, when onovo was literally begging the robbers to stop making their 'brother' look bad?

keep living in the same dream world you lot always live in

Igbos are 95% traders are lies that had been debunked by veritable facts many times here. Igbos are not just traders, they are academicians, technicians, industrialists and everyother thing good. Shrinking customer base won't be a problem if we establish an Igbo nation and make Obuaku seaport a reality, the Rest of Africa will come to Aba and Onitsha to trade.
So I wouldn't even waste time debunking that Igbo being 95% traders lie again.

SE states are indebted to a degree, but never to the tonne of SW indebtedness. Again we have stats to prove that.

Without Nigeria Igboland will be fine.

On the Kidnapping ish, the thing is that SE don't tolerate abominations, we bring them to the sun and expunge them, we are not like some people that hide their vices to appear sophisticated. Kidnapping became an issue in SE some years back, we all brought it out to the public and fought it to a stand still, today SE is the safest region in Nigeria, even at the height of Osiskankwu abomination in Abia, kidnapping rate was never higher in the SE than in SW, I have stats to back this up,the only difference is that while SE was fighting her kidnappers using the media and the military, some other region was hiding theirs to appear sophisticated.
https://www.nairaland.com/2246902/criminal-infested-region-southern-nigeria/1See it here: www.punchng.com/seast-safest-place-live-says-un/

Temptee101:
Ngozi Okonjo Iweala is from Anambra state

She is from Ogwashi uku Delta state, but married to an Abia state man.

Opharhe:
Who tell you? Osadebe is from Delta, Western Igbo.
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Osadebe is from Anambra, pls I'm sorry. Na mistake before.

Late Dennis Osadebey, the renowned Igbo nationalist, former premier of defunct mid west region, one of the founders of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo, the man who coined the term ANIOMA, was from present Delta North. That makes him a Deltan.

But the late Osita Osadebe , the famous Igbo musician hailed from Atani, Ogbaru LGA of Anambra state.

OP how exactly did you miss to add ALI CHUKWUMA in your opening post?

oyb:
We will all suffer the winter and famine together.
Who do you think will be the first to descend into chaos?

The regions where thugs and thieves are celebrated. It is already happening.

Please don't beg for bubu when Osisikanu 2.0 launches in the east.

The same simpletons who subsist solely on handouts from their state govts are celebrating the cut off of funds to their governments

The so called self employed traders don't understand if your customers don't have money, you will not sell goods.

Simple cause and effect them no sabi
The next emergency bubu needs to declare is in public education. Otherwise all the future leaders of this country will be from the elite.

Yes we will suffer it together, but the East is more prepared for the winter, because we had seen worst things in our existence, and we came out stronger. Currently, SE receive the least from the FG even during the period of skyhigh oil prices, we have the most of informal non oil depedent economy in Nigeria, and our huge diaspora population will also send funds to cushion the hardship.

Buhari was always going to be a failure, We knew that from the beginning, but your tribalism and Igbo hatred got the better of you, Osun is already at the brink of economic crisis as it stands yet this is but the beginning of the 7 years of famine, and your SW region is already swimming in debt, both internal and external more than any region in this geographical entity, you are going to be hit harder by Nigerian shrinking economy as we know that it is your people who occupy most of the jobs in the Nigerian formal sector, through the unfair advantage you got through the 1970's indigenization programme of Gowon's government.

You will not come out of this coming winter the same.

blackpanda:
I dont know why u delight in lies and falsehood. First of all, from ur post I know u are not even from the nigerdelta. You are an ipad apologist trying to disguise as a nigerdeltan. Everything about u is a lie including your name.
I dont know what IMF loan u are talking about cos the last time Largarde was here she said nigeria doesnt need such loan and even buhari rufused to request for it. Not to mention, buhari evenwent ahead to sign agreement with china,boycotting the use of dollars. Is this the same person u are claiming has a dollar agenda??

Stop with your ridiculous lies already!

Stop trash! Nigerian economy is crashing under the ineffective Kemi management and Buhari's failure, and you are here shouting IPOB ,

How exactly is IPOB the cause of your problems?

blackpanda:
Op i dont think u are smart at all. Your excitement over nigeria's predicament would have mademore sense if u were a foreigner or at least living outside the country. But here u are purchasing from the samemarket with other nigerians, paying quadrupple for transport just like the people u "lolling" at and living in perpetual darkness like everyone else.

Isnt that stupidity at its peak? Sometimes i think hate and anger blocks wailers ability to use their brain

Stop pouring your frustration on the OP. He wasn't the one who made Buhari a failure.

You should be ashamed of yourself, all the OP predicted last year has come to happen.

Philistine:
. Aba- d dirtiest city in west africa. Onitsha- d most polluted n smelling city in d world. D dirtiest places in lagos are dominated by igbos; Ajegunle,Oshodi etc

www.punchng.com/seast-safest-place-live-says-un/

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/12/enugu-makes-history-joins-worlds-100-resilient-cities/

Meanwhile:

https://www.bellanaija.com/2012/08/lagos-is-ranked-as-the-3rd-worst-liveable-city-in-the-world-by-the-economist-intelligence-unit-do-you-agree-with-the-ranking/

omonnakoda:
Ibonalysis. According to your logic Yoruba do not do well in JAMB because they apply more to private universities?

Where is the list of people that apply for Common Entrance. Ibologic is understood only by Ibos

Cut off marks for unity school entrance are done using law of averages. The average performance of each state determines its cut off marks. States with high percentage of high performers have high cut off marks and vice versa, this is not a rocket science, average performance is gotten by taking the average scores.

My logic is that since the organizers didn't tell us the average performance of each Nigerian region, we can only get that by seeing the total number of Yorubas that applied and their average performance. Without that info, there is really nothing we can make out of this your thread.

omonnakoda:
How come you did not know ? Eboes are the most widely travelled ,most knowledgeable Nigerians?

Pressid went on for at least 4 years
Is it then your argument that Eboes are not represented because they did not know about it?
That's a what I call Ibonalysis

PRESSID was only open to first class graduates, private. Unis that share first class started proliferating recently in the East.
With more private unis in SE, Igbos steadily got more candidates qualifying for the PRESSID and that started reflecting on the over all performance of Igbos in the scheme, as we saw in the last PRESSID list.

Unless you provide the list of qualified first class graduates that applied for the first three editions of PRESSID and their ethnicities, as to take the average performance, you stats is at best useless. Same applies to the Mandela stuff, it's useless without the list of all Nigerian candidates that applied to take the average performance of each group.

Below is an example of the law of averages I was talking about:https://www.nairaland.com/2613463/igbos-most-brilliant-black-african/1

Only 15 Igbos applied for that exam, whereas 90 yorubas did. If we are to take just the numbers, it would appear that Yorubas did better, but a take of the averages painted a picture of Igbo dominance once again.

p://www.lambeth.gov.uk/rsu/sites/lambeth.gov.uk.rsu/files/Raising_the_Achievement_of_Black_African_Pupils-Good_Practice_in_Schools_2013.pdf