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PlayMaker14:
Masssimilano Allegri; Juventus > Sit-At-Home > Juventus > Sit-At-Home > Juventus.

Which one be sit at home again. You people are just too funny

Angelfrost:
However, the United that started this season and later topped the league ought to have beaten them wella!!!

No jokes! I believe this united can beat any team! Even from 2 goals down. I mentioned in one thread criticising rookie coaches, Ole inclusive, that some of these coaches and Ole has tried. He's held his own against Klopp and Pep and I think even has a better head to head record. Just some tactical fine tuning needed, which I believe he's acquiring. He just needs a football loving board/owners, not business men.

Angelfrost:
United's problem is simple!... Poor investment over the years. They have been wasting good money on the wrong players. If they had sorted out their transfer 'crisis' 3 seasons ago, they would have been winning trophies concurrently. You can't give what you don't have.

Forget all that talk of 'a club of Man United status'! Didn't a club of Chelsea's status lose 2 straight F.A cup finals??!... When you are unworthy of winning titles based on poor transfers, lack of squad depth, etc, then there is nothing you can do about that, it matters not whether you are a big club with history or not... Juventus had all the stars yet almost shamefully ended up in Europa for the first time since who knows when.

Yeah, their season ended poorly for losing that final, but it in no way makes them less than elite... Know this and quit arguing!!! Thank you.

Guy, please realise this - not everyone on this thread is out to get Man Utd fans.

Read all my comments, I never said Man Utd aren't elite or they are mediocre. I said they are a top club, which is why people are disappointed.
I also said, my issue with Man Utd is not just last night but the past 4 years (which you also agreed to)

So, where is the argument. If there's any argument, I'm sure it's constructive. So read my comments well and don't get carried away by that other Man Utd fan wey say ano get brain as him think say I dey troll am. There are people who are objective sport commentators.

Angelfrost:
I never tried to support or back United up... That's not my headache honestly.

I merely pointed out that it is quite wrong to label United a mediocre team based on losing a single final.

As for Villarreal being underdogs, let's give that a rest please... Villarreal is an under-performing club which should be finishing better than they do every season.

As for an inquest, yeah I support that wholly... That's the right thing to do.

Of course, united are not a mediocre team. If they are there won't be much noise. They are arguably in the top best 5 teams in the world, nah why they need to step up.

As for Villarreal, lol. They are a curious case. They need consistency. They are like the Tottenham of Spain. Using your words, could it be because they underperform is why they are seen as underdogs?

adelaja70:
YOU funny.. Do you know a club called AC MILAN?

Yep. And they got bashed every year they were out of the elite circle. They celebrated their return on Sunday like a trophy. Do you want to become like them?
I guess not. That's my point. The club should change something before becoming like them.

adelaja70:
You are not making sense at all... So because ManU didn't win trophies makes them what? Go collect your brain back.

I understand it hurts, so I'll ignore the insult. So to answer your question (bolded)

It makes their season a failure, just as the manager said. Even the players recognise this, only Nigerian Man Utd fans have a problem with this truth.

A club of Man Utd stature should not go FOUR SEASONS trophyless!

It's not just about last night, it's the 4 years. Top 4 or 2nd is not a trophy.

Something has to change. Even Juve that won Coppa Italia and finished top 4 are considering changing manager.

It is accepting mediocrity (top 4) as success that has led Arsenal to their current situation. It only gets worse.

lascos912:
e broke after winning league na wa for him o

Lol. Dem borrow money dey pay salaries ni sef. They closed down their other club, immediately after those ones won their league too - Jiangsu Sunning. They are looking to sell Inter Milan, but no buyers due to Coronavirus.

adelaja70:
Sad, you don't know anything about football.... Please stop analyzing football for your own good.

Lol. Let's hear your analysis of Villarreal being an elite club. I'd love to see it.

Angelfrost:
You know nothing about football...

What did the following "Mighty" teams win this year?

Sevilla
Real Madrid
Borussia Dortmund
Juventus
Atalanta
Barcelona
A.C Milan

There are few trophies for many teams to compete for... You do your best. It's no one's birth-right.

United played well... They could have won within 90 minutes if they played better, same for Villarreal (You don't get to a European final if you are mediocre). Penalties can go any way.

First, Sevilla, Atalanta, Dortmund can't be spoken of in the same breath as Man Utd. That you are, says a lot about how low Man Utd has sunk.

Secondly, these clubs have points in the bank. I mean they have met and some even surpassed expectations (from fans and general public alike) in recent times(last 2 years) .

Third, Dortmund, Juventus, Barcelona won trophies this season. The others finished strongly. Ac Milan back in Europe, Madrid finished strongly (but Zidane left because that wasn't good enough), Atalanta, best points tally ever(equal with last season)

There are times mediocre teams get to European finals. Fulham got there in 2010 and rightly lost, are they an elite team?

My point is - Don't kid yourself, Man Utd underperformed yesterday and throughout the season. Villarreal were the underdogs. Ideally, there'll be an inquest - at some level. Players-wise or manager-wise, or Board-wise. Madrid are having an inquest, Barca will. United should.

lexy2014:
What makes u feel Villarreal is a mediocre team?

Two reasons
1. They finished 7th in laliga, behind Betis, Sociedad. Midtable team.

2. They lack European pedigree , pedigree. This is their first major trophy ever! To put that in perspective, Wigan FC has won way more than them!

Do you see notice how most people are not heaping praise on Villarreal but shame and disappointment on Manchester united?

Do you also notice that accolade is directed at Emery as a Europa specialist?

#Oleout is trending and Man Utd season is considered a failure, but do you think same woulda applied to Villarreal if Man Utd had won?

And if you still think they aren't a mediocre club, I'll like your definition of elite club.

Aflix:
Sexual offences against men are no less serious than sexual offences committed against women, the act has gender-neutral terms to achieve equality.


Love this right here.

But do you think 3 and half years woulda been the punishment if it were a man?

lascos912:
abeg why conte leave inter Milan

Inter Milan owners don broke, so are cutting cost/reducing investment. Players sef go waka. Plus I hear say vacancy go dey Real Madrid next season.

omolola100:
Whenever an American citizen wake up in the morning, they will pray that God should bless America.

This country is turning to something else and i dont think Nigeria can ever balance again, my cousin who works in a private school got back home after the proprietress sacked her for asking the student to pray for the redemption of Nigeria, and also telling the student to observe a minute silence for the COAS and the military personnel that lost their life in the plane crash.

Is it a crime to pray for one's nation again?
The woman is an enemy of the nation for her to have rejected prayer for our dear nation.

The attached image is what is obtainable in USA schools as per religion and schools which you used as reference. That's for public schools in USA, imagine how strict about mixing religion and education private schools will be there.

Cenripacta:
That's why in Nigeria Fresh graduates rarely get employed because they be looking for the one with 8years experience. Even the tested and trusted ones fail too. Steven Gerrard led his team Rangers to an undefeated season. So everyone deserves a chance

Thank you. Were Guardiola and Flick not rookies when they got their jobs? Didn't they succeed?

nairalee:
All these appointment of all these naive coaches just because they're ex players, young or pundits is a wrong approach. Only someone that has been tested and trusted should be appointed as a coach.

OGS
LAMPARD
GATUSSO
PIRLO
ARTETA

ALL LEARNERS
I shouldn't even mention them Neville. Those ones are just suegbe

The bolded. How do you test them if not by appointing them? It is the testing process you get to know whether it's a hit or miss. The bolded is the reason companies look for 'experience' who in reality are archaic and have nothing to offer, while they ignore fresh blood with innovative ideas ready to work.

Personally, I think OGS, Pirlo and maybe even GATUSSO are decent. Why?
OGS is up against Guardiola and Klopp, and he's holding his own. I don't have the stats, but I believe he has better head to head record against those 2 men. With time, he'll perfect his other shortcomings.

Pirlo won the Coppa Italia and is in the champions league. Good enough for his very first season ever especially with the super competitiveness of Serie A this season.

Now, which 'tested and trusted' coach would you like to replace them? Sarri, Mourinho, Allegri?

Even the successful coaches started as rookies. Let me give you 3 examples of rookies appointed that are a hit.

Guardiola, he was in charge of B team when he was appointed by Barcelona. See as he blow.

Tito Vilanova - Spent one season in barca and he won the league. He was a revelation. Made mourinho suffered. He didn't continue due to health issues

Hansi Flick - Need I say anything?

Arteta own, well, that's just a reflection Arsenal football club.

DownChelsea:
Also with "Doubting" T bottler as coach.

Be like say the guy nah nearly man o. I hope he breaks the hoodoo on Saturday.

DownChelsea:
You need numbers?

Give numbers - trophies won in the past decade. This is the same metrics use by UEFA for coefficient ranking.

Let trophies won by ancestors rest.

oluplus:
Oga, James na minus 1 today. How the coach kept him on the pitch all thru is a mystery I need to unfold

No bi lie. He played like someone who his girlfriend just dumped.

fujirice:
That’s your opinion. I don’t judge my players based on emotions. The only player that didn’t give a good account of himself today is Jorginho and maybe Kovaciç. The rest didn’t do badly if you ask me.
It’s just clear that the officials had an agenda against Chelsea.
Do you know how frustrating that could be for the players?

Spot on. Maybe Reece James too. He did not affect the game as we know he can, was lacklustre for parts of the game. Maybe cos he wasn't played in his favourite position.

As for Jorginho, he must chop bench on 29th. He's been proving a liability these days. His gift against Arsenal was why we were in this situation in the first place.

Pvibe007:
Do u sleep on Political threads? Dude get a life. If u this jobless, u can pm me ur CV .
Don’t die a useless man

Abeg bro, leave that man. Let me pm you my CV biko.

WibusJaga:
Who be Chelsea, if it were the good old days of the real Gunners...

Lol @image. But that was 16+years ago. Psv, Lyon, Ac Milan, Inter Milan were still doing well in Europe then. Psg, Man City were not big clubs. RB Leipzig was not yet founded and Chelsea was just rising.

What I'm saying is, Football has left arsenal behind for 15+years

bada007:
what of Sam alledyce

It's called a blip.

Manchester City had it against Leeds, Man Utd against Sheffield United, Bayern against Mainz, Barca against Osasuna...on and on, I can go on listing. It happens. You get it?

DaddyYankee:
[s][/s]Trash as usual.

Porto won it on their first final.

City is not Chelshit

Porto have 2 champions league trophies.

Before you scream and say it's the old European cup, answer these 3 questions-

1. How many Champions league trophies does Real Madrid have?

2. How many of them are in the champions league as we know it today?

3. Who's talking trash now?

wwwihy:
Start Ramos start Ramos, as if na Generator

Laughter don kill me o

mattmogan88:
Oga make we put am money na,
I no dy like argue without money.

if them tell you chelshit go reach final, you go believe? Tell yourself the truth

The picture says it all. In Tuchel we trust!

stano2:
My first bank has been frozen since 3weeks now, open my account..wahala.
I have submitted everything required still my account is inaccessible

My Gtb account months now. I have been told 48,72, 10 working days. Still waiting. They are all mad

Good day dear Nairalanders!!

Please help me with a job.

Modified.

Found 1! Thanks for all for the comments

drips8:
Bayern Munich literally run the Bundesliga.

No jokes. They rarely get their players outside bundesliga. All they do is look for the best players in other clubs in bundesliga and buy them, sometimes free transfer sef. Now they are poaching coaches. They just poached the best bundesliga coach (besides Hansi Flick).
Imo, it's difficult and even unfair to ask other bundesliga clubs to compete with such system!
They are flattrack bullies!