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showlove911:
These numbers does not reflect the true statistics.

In FMC abakaliki, Ebonyi state where I work, the number of medical students exceeds 300. I mean one level(like 300L). Now 99% of the students are actually igbos.

My neighbor, a nursing student, their class is well over 500 (just 4th year). I once helped my landlord to do exam invigilation of law students, 100L. It took 3 big halls to continue them. 98% igbos.

We don't have or keep data in this country and it’s sad.

Do you know that those schools in the South East will be so scared now? Medical and dental council of Nigeria have allocated slots for medical students from each school. The capacity of the south eastern schools is the least. They admitted so many students that won’t graduate just to collect the money. They are over subscribed. It is fraud . It is nothing to celebrate. This is one of the reasons for poor educational standards in Nigeria.

I know you will still argue with nonsense. By the way, I graduated in a Nigerian medical school and I was the national president of the then NIMSA ( Nigerian medical students association) so I’ve been to practically all the medical schools in Nigeria

OyoTunjiUSA:
Hey 🤠

*** I am used to writing that people should always ask an honest (complete not half baked) questions . My opinion just prompted you to let it out. Don't do that next time sir.


1. Your wife used Florida in the year 2014 which supported my point that Florida Beaches has been over-used. I knew that year we started using the scope and i have used it to secured nothing less than 15 B2 visas for people. ** That's not where we 're going .

2. Now, i am an immigration officer under USCIS (U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services). * Between the year 2016 & 2018 , your wife (who entered the USA via B2 tourist visa) gave birth to your 2 kids - Visa Fraud Committed (giving birth and relocation is now her original intention) - Thats consular's conclusion.

3. Last month February 2024 ( Visa Fraud-Sins Forgiven because she has 2 American citizens as kids already), she was re-issued a 5-years B2 visa as a necessity because of (perhaps medical and other benefits) the kids.

4. Now tell me as a consular : Do you think that i will give you visa on the basis of the same (Florida lies) route your wife got her visa ? ** Fine her visa sins has been forgiving but you (especially the direct next of kin /spouse) and any of her family will have a cumbersome kind of USA visa hearings in the future because of her original entry history .

5. Jettison the Florida idea and tell me you wanna go n visit your wife and kids (next time they all travel) since you v not been there since the year 2016 when the 1st kid was born . Thats the only honesty that can prompt any VO to consider you.


Best Wishes 🙏

This is not correct. The wife didn’t get a family visa otherwise he won’t be applying for the first time. Their visas are not linked. The immigration officer knows nothing about the wife based on the interview. They are not linked in anyway.

@KASIDAVID
Location has nothing to do with your visa approval. You can as well go to Alaska . However, if you are going for mainly touristic activity, it means you are a seasoned traveller. You can’t leave the whole of kuramo beach, Cape Verde, Zanzibar, Mauritius all of them in Africa to to go a beach in Florida AND YOU CANT PLAN THE HOTEL STAY CORRECTLY. That’s a red flag.

A seasoned traveller knows how to plan his vacation. He stays close to his places of interest while on tourism.

The officer doubted your original intention based on that. Don't work yourself up unnecessarily. Maybe you should go elsewhere before you attend the interview next time. Like I said, if you are so keen about going to the beach for vacation, a visa denial to America won’t stop you since you don’t even need a visa to do the same in Mauritius. Go somewhere else then apply again. It shows your intentions are genuine.

broadman20:
Just shut up if you don't know what you are talking about.

Who did Obasanjo constested the party primary with in Jos?

Did any eastern states voted for the Man?

Okay in 2003 when Obasanjo constested against Buhari who did Igbos voted for?

Did you region voted for Buhari or Obasanjo?

Stop coming here to say what you don't know, I'm even wondering how old you are in the first place.

Kiddo, you need a lesson in history.
There was no contest against Yorubas in 1999. The mood of the whole nation unequivocally was that a Yoruba must be president. Yorubas had suffered so much. Abiola won 1993 election and it was annulled. He went to prison and died. His wife, Kudirat was assassinated, A Yoruba man that was used as interim president was dethroned. Obasanjo and Diya who happened to be deputy of ABACHA were thrown into prison . Many Yorubas like Beko ransom Kuti, Soyinka, Gani fawehinmi and even Tinubu ran away or were thrown to prison.

When ABACHA died, it was obvious only a Yoruba president could heal the wound. The Yorubas however presented a candidate under AFENIFERE. The north believed AFENIFERE had a personal vendetta against them so they were scared.

They released OBASANJO FROM PRISON and begged him the following week to come and contest. He never showed interest. It was believed that he handed over power to a northerner against his own kinsman (Awolowo) so he could be trusted.

Therefore, the PDM group formed by late Shehu Musa Yardua who was very close to Obasanjo ( He was de facto deputy to Obasanjo as a military head of state) went to beg him. He agreed. It was this group that formed alliance with EKWUEME who was IGBO and served as vice president to a northerner that OBASANJO handed over to. They formed PDP so PDP was an Igbo party. ATIKU was the de facto leader of PDM after the death of Musa Yaardua and that was why Igbo kept voting him till they saw OBI

The East did not vote for Ojukwu because EKWUEME at that time was considered a man of more national prominence than Ojukwu as a former vice president. His ambition was to become PRESIDENT later.

Igbos thought they could achieve presidency with PDP that was why they didn’t vote OJUKWU.


You guys will be deceiving your youths because there is no history in Nigerian schools again.

broadman20:
Hmmmmm



You speak like a child, I will keep telling you this.


When Igbos voted for a Yoruba man called Olusugun Obasanjo, where were you?

When Igbos voted for Yardua against Ojukwu in APGA where were you?

When Igbos voted for Goodluck Jonathan where were you?

Now Igbos are voting for Peter Obi that your useless spirit of divide and destroy in NIGERIA has taken over you.

We love good people in power who has plans and we vote for them.

The Buhari you voted for that destroyed NIGERIA ,

That borrowed money more than all the leaders of Nigeria put together how market?

You never start suffering sincerely speaking because I just pray that SUFFERING should reset your brain.

Thrash. Igbos never voted Obasanjo out of choice. In 1999, only two Yorubas were contesting. The candidate of the Yorubas was Olu falae. Igbo voted against the candidate of the Yorubas as usual same way they voted against Awolowo.
In 2003 that you want to talk about, Obasanjo had infiltrated all the political space in the then nascent democracy and there was no going back. All the governors in the south east were in PDP. Senate president was in PDP so Igbos voted PDP because they had no choice.
You make it look like OJUKWU was ever an option. It’s just like Yorubas saying they voted against pastor BAKARE or SOWORE. They were candidates but we know they were going no where.

You voted for Goodluck Jonathan? Against who? You voted for Yaardua ? How ? PDP was ruling all the states in the East. Ojukwu was not better than say SOWORE in national appeal. It was just a miss or hit scenario. Obasanjo hand picked Yardua and you had no option.

The first time you had option , you turned it to a tribal war. The reason is that OBI, having contested as the vice president on the platform of a national party like PDP and being a former governor happened to be the only candidate ever from the South East with any chance at all.
Stop deceiving yourself. You never voted for anyone out of choice. You simply had no choice.
Even Abiola that was so popular nationally still lost some South east states and marginally won in others.

Opeyemi007:
https://www.cliniclegal.org/resources/religious-immigration-law/us-customs-and-border-protection-eliminating-entry-stamps

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Debbieeeeeee:
Atlanta stopped stamping since 2022. No more physical stamps in some airports instead they give you slip to check your I-94 online e.g Atlanta.

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Opeyemi007:
No more physical stamp

There is. It depends on the mood of the immigration officers. I got stamped twice in the last two years out of about 8 entries .

OyoTunjiUSA:
Hey 🤠

1. Sir, with due respect I disagree with you with solid explanation and personal experiences.

2. On the USA embassy . The only 3 categories of people who can apply for Emergency appointment are :

* Student Emergency
...Apply with Form I 20 and Sevis fee receipt

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*Medical Emergency
..... Apply with hospital letter from Nigeria and from the USA stating that the applicant need urgent medical attention.

.... Or Attending burial ceremony or repatriating a dead person back to Nigeria. (Still needs an invitation letter )
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*Business Emergency
... Conference or going to inspect or buy goods in America .

3. I have personally gotten all these categories of emergencies and I am still getting it (not for advertising purposes) . I am following what the US embassy stipulates .

4. You don't have to plan a conference. If you are working with Psychiatric hospital and a conference on drug abuse happens tomorrow, the hospital may decide to send you there because such conference might not happen again . What you plan ahead is no more an emergency .


**** Sir , anyone who disputes the above explanation does not know how to go about it . Period .

**** B1/B2. Business and pleasure ( Conference is business // Wedding is pleasure ).


Best Wishes 🙏

. You know the reason why I did not reply you?
You said anyone that disputes your position does not know about it.

Stop talking like that. No one knows it all. Only people with very little exposure talk like that.

I won’t go into details but no one will give you emergency appointment to attend conference.
Short training less than three months can qualify for EA technically. However, the business entity both in Nigeria and US must prove that they will lose some business opportunities unless you attend the training. It is extremely difficult to prove that with a conference. I’ve gotten emergency appointment using urgent business travel twice and it is always because I was going to do a job and my income for the job is usually around 50k dollars over 4 months period so that should tell you how important that job is to the company.

Infact, IT IS EXPRESSLY STATED THAT YOU CANT USE CONFERENCE TO GET EMERGENCY APPOINTMENT.

Stop saying only your position is correct. Learn from others . Only illiterates insist their position is always the best.

freshStarz:
Hi guys
I just got a letter inviting me for a conference in July 2024
My question is, what is the next process with this letter of invitation. Should I go ahead and start filling the DS 160 form or is there something else I need to do first?

Just disregard those hammering on your invitation letter. It has no bearing. No one cares.
You will not get EMERGENCY APPOINTMENT BASED ON CONFERENCE even if you are the organizer. Conference is never an impromptu stuff. It is just like wedding invitation. You will never get emergency appointment even if you are the father of the bride and the groom makes emergency proposal. They believe proper conference would have been planned a year or more ahead .
Therefore, fill the forms, get a date which will likely be long. When the date is close, update your CGI form. If you have a new conference you want to attend at that time, update it. If you don’t have, change plans to tourism. If you really qualify for US visa, it doesn’t matter whether you book hotel for tourism or you register to attend a conference. Those things are very very secondary.

YorubaKing:
What a disgrace!

With >200 MM pple, we still manage to trail Egypt by >60 medals (>50 in gold category) and some are even celebrating this.

The height of mediocrity! Useless nation.

You contribute nothing to the development of the country. You sit down in your house criticizing everything, calling your country a useless nation…indirectly calling yourself a useless citizen of a useless nation. What is wrong with all these unpatriotic elements that someone is sharing the country with?
Nigeria is so unlucky to have many unproductive, unappreciative citizens .
Kudos to those guys representing us. They did something. You too do something with your life and stop whining like a baby.

sethtsadopp:
I'm super grateful for taking the time to write back a detailed reply. Exactly the assurances I needed.

By the way, let me just use your questions as practice and answer them here.

1. I'm going to the US to attend the wedding of my cousin. We lived together with my grandparents when he was 5 years old before going to join her parents in the US 20 years ago.

2. Certainly the wedding will hold, but She and her parents want be to come because
a) I'm going to be the only representative of her Dad's family coming from Nigeria.
b) Since she left Nigeria at the age of 5, I'm the only one back home she has any childhood remembrance/recollection of, hence she really wants me to be present.

3. I will be funding my trip.

4. Yes I traveled to Singapore in September 2022 for a Blockchain conference and I'll be going again September this year.

Please tell me what you think about these answers. They are all 100% true but are they necessary? Are they too long? Any red flags there? Details you think I should do away with there? I'll be more than happy to hear what you think.

God bless


I the meantime, let me continue reading thread, I started Part 2 from Page 1.

Although American visa can sometimes be a lottery so there is no harm in trying. However, don’t put your mind to it. The VO will assume you are an economic migrant.
1) Your purpose- you are planning to attend the wedding of a cousin that you last met when she was five years old. For what? You didn’t see this lady for 20 years . Suddenly, you will be spending six months salary just to attend her wedding in America. How many of your cousins in Nigeria have you contributed 500k towards their wedding that you will now be spending 6months salary on a cousin’s wedding in America? Things like wedding works well for people that travels regularly and for direct parents/siblings not a distant cousin.
2) You don’t have a strong travel history to justify such expenses.

Piece of advice—- Keep your answers shot. Don’t explain.
Why are you going to America ? ? I am attending a cousin’s wedding. NO NEED FOR EXPLANATION IF YOU ARE NOT ASKED.

Nobody will ask you about your house in Abuja or your bitcoin. He may ask you what you do. Keep the answer short as much as possible.

Finally, wish yourself Goodluck but never put your mind to it.

Anybody that checks the name or the tribe should collect 10000 years in jail.

Nonsense !!!!

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justwise:
Story for the gods, they were told to keep quiet for what exactly? Nigeria and the UK doesn't have any visa waiver agreement so how can a recruitment agency get one for doctors traveling for work?

If at all those doctors left Nigeria they did that with tier 2 visa and not visa waiver.

Old news? An article published today?

oga we don hear. The article was published since Wednesday and Thursday by major newspapers. If the doctors got tier 2 in less than 5 days after they were bounced at the border, it further confirms that the initial visa waiver was genuine especially since the UK visa collection center is yet to resume. The lesson here is....never assume you know all next time. I know deep down you know the doctors were travelling genuinely otherwise it won't even worth the response from a whole minister and something generating such a media attention would have attracted a rebuttal from UK embassy in nigeria if it is not genuine. Pride is making it difficult for you to accept so I understand.

justwise:
From health minister Dr Osagie Ehanire today:

“With regards to the 58 doctors, we were all surprised to hear that they were at the airport and it was irregular in that many of them did not have visas. I don’t know what evidence you have whether they have left the country but no one should leave the country without a visa.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2020/07/17/health-minister-to-fleeing-doctors-uk-wont-pamper-you-with-hazard-allowance/

old news. The minister said those things two days ago and he didn't tell you they have not left. That news was on Wednesday. He was indirectly begging doctors not to leave. He didn't say they left or not. And like I earlier told you, they told them to keep quiet about the eventual departure. Once a Nigerian minister tells you that he can't confirm wether they have left or not....what do you think he was saying? And those guys didn't leave without visa....a waiver is equivalent to visa. Just like nysc certificate and exemption. Bottom line is that you are posting old news

Chartey:
You were stubborn in your ignorance and you don't even have the decency to apologise to all those who, being better-informed, tried to correct you.
You must be a very proud person.

He is even better than his boss @justwise. That one is proudly engrossed in ignorance.

justwise:
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I know this stuff more than you do and can teach you one or two things for free.

Thank you sir. Keep your half baked knowledge for your fellow ignoramus.

justwise:
Yes if you claimed that the organisation arranged with American govt and visa waiver letter was sent to you then the immigration stops you from boarding the organisation has to sort that out with immigration.

The guardian newspaper did not confirm it, they simply said what they heard from experts

That is the Nigerian guardian and not the UK, pay close attention to the web address to know the difference

so the resident doctors are the ones that claimed they arranged the visa and they are sorting it out. Sorting out a visa that doesn't exist in the first place according to you. Okay I don hear you. The guys are in the UK already anyway. Stay here and be analysing what you don't know. And for your information, I am not just a doctor.....I am also an ex- officio of that same NARD whose president you are quoting so you can be rest assured I know what I am talking about. You can't know everything and the earlier you learn that....the better.

justwise:
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I can only believe that when i hear it from govt official either from Nigerian govt, immigration or from the UK side.

Now to your comments, the president of Nigerian resident doctors said they are trying to sort out the issue from Nigerian immigration as of yesterday and you are telling me that they have left already and was asked to keep it secret?


1. There is no evidence as you claimed that Nigerian govt was not happy that those doctors were leaving( this is your opinion but not fact)

2. There is no evidence that those doctors were issued genuine paper to travel to the UK as confirmed by the Nigerian immigration service. And those doctors claimed to be traveling for training which Nigerian health ministry could not confirm when contacted.


Listen, many many Nigerian doctors have traveled to the UK to work and the process is simple, i have never come across this amount of confused and level of misinformation before.

Listen to C.G of Nigerian immigration service because he is making a lot of sense.

just one question....if you don't have visa or waiver...what is there to even sort out in the first instance? So you mean if I decide to travel to America tommorrow without visa and they don't allow me to board, my organisation will be working it out with immigration. Is that even news worthy? Does that make sense? If there was no waiver, they were supposed to be sent to the British. That they were trying to sort it with nigeria immigration means they had no problems with the British isn't it? For your information, the president of resident doctors is just a politician. There is nothing they were sorting out yesterday. You mean you don't believe that article from GUARDIAN . You think they don't know what they are saying when they said the doctors left. Anyway,make we rest. Wetin be my own self. Make border open make I resume in Australia.

justwise:
Also listen to The present of Nigerian resident doctor's interview yesterday and hear what he said when asked about the efforts they are making to resolve the issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkhSkNgMe5c

How does this show that the doctors were not given visa waiver? NIGERIAN govt can stop anyone from travelling. No one is disputing that. What I am against is you saying the visa waiver was not genuine. If you notice, no one on the side of UK govt has come out to say the waiver is not genuine. Did you notice that? What our govt was saying was that they didn't communicate with the ministry of foreign affairs since the country is on lockdown. How can the president of resident doctors resolve issues that has to do with visa and international travels? The fact is this.....1) they were issued waiver genuinely 2) Ngerian govt was not happy 3) They capitalised on the lapses of lockdown and the waiver to deny them boarding. Don't you think NIS would have called UK immigration and assuming they told them not to board...won't NIS categorically state it? So who now eventually issued the visa for them to go when the embassy is not yet open. Any govt can stop anyone from travelling....I am.not disputing that. However, saying they were scammed or it wasn't genuine is what we are talking about here.
NB....if you must know, they have left but they were told to keep it secret so that the media noise can just disappear naturally.

justwise:
You can never learn when you believe anything without seeing an evidence, yes people work from home and website get updated from home as well.

1. If their papers were in order as you stated then why were they not allowed to travel?

2. The health care recruitment agent can not give them visa waiver letter as many of you here have stated..only the UKBA can give such letter( Honestly i have never heard of such letter as regards to Nigerians)

3. How can a recruitment agent charter a flight, land in Nigeria to pick up 58 Nigerians without the consent of Nigerian govt or even the immigration authority?

Punch newpaper reported and i quote : The NIS Spokesman, Sunday James, said in a statement on Friday that the doctors claimed to be going for training but had no visas

Does that make sense to you?

Now that the doctors have left, what do you have to say? Always listen to people that knows more than you about a particular situation. I've noticed you always believe you are correct on this forum. Doctors on this forum were telling you it was real, you kept saying it was not possible. It was an insult on the entire medical community for you to assume 58 doctors were scammed with a UK visa. You think UK visa is that difficult for doctors? Even if it is difficult, you think doctors don't know they will need visa before travelling or you are the only one that knows only UKBA can give the letter? Be humble guy. Being a moderator doesn't mean you know more than every other person.

poiunt:
the scammer collected their money, they are 58 doctors in number, the article didnt make mention of plab

this is what the scammer made 58*500 = 29 000 pounds

it is cleanly written on NHS website

If you are not a British citizen, or a national of a country in the European Economic Area (EEA) or Switzerland, you will need a visa before you travel to the UK. To obtain a visa, you need to meet the requirements of UKVI, which is responsible for managing migration in the UK.

https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/working-health/overseas-health-professionals/immigration-rules

oga....some sets have gone earlier. I don't need to keep arguing with you on open forum. I am in a WhatsApp group of fellow doctors and another alumni group of my Alma mater all doctors...I have personal friends involved so stop talking about what you don't know. You are not the one that knows about UKVI and it is foolishness to assume that doctors that have gone as far as writing part 2 plab in the UK don't know that they need visas before boarding. Stop claiming what you don't know. All the 58 doctors were scammed? You think they are dummies? 29 thousand pounds is how much compared to a chartered flight that required special clearance during lockdown? How much is left for the scammer. I beg....

poiunt:
the letter, the pay smell of scam

For a doctor to practice in the Uk, he or she must have written and passed plab 1 and 2 also the Uk ban all flight from Nigeria, so how will they travel.

This is not scam. Maybe you don't know NES. And you should ask yourself....will scammer pay for chartered flight? How much is the gain left for the scammer? NES won't find job for you without passing plab2 so read the article very well before you keep shouting scam. It was very real and NIS just intentionally sabotaged them albeit for a short period

Golan007:
Don't be stupid.

No immigration officer would let you travel without valid paperwork.

UK Visas are not issued on arrival.

Ask yourself this simple question. Who authorised the special flight during this lockdown? You think 58 doctors are so stupid they don't know they need visa to enter UK? How did the 58 doctors know that there is a flight waiting for them at the airport when the border is closed? Always think. Some sets have gone earlier and they were all granted visa on arrival. They all have visa waiver for the journey and the flight was booked by UK govt. They were just scared all the doctors are running away.

bellong:
Have you passed PESCI? I believe your employer would have told you that it is a requirement before you can start employment.

As good as your plan is, it does not look feasible because Queensland does not sponsor Health and Welfare Manager for 190. Only 491 and you must be working in that capacity in the last three months in Regional Queensland. You will not be employed as the practice manager except your employer will want to assist you with that which may be very difficult. It is easier getting state nomination outside Australia than when you are onshore. This is because most of the states will only sponsor you if you are living in their states. If you live interstate, it is very very hard to get nomination outside your state of residence. However, if outside Australia, you have luxury of choice to apply to all the states if you meet the minimum requirements.

Secondly, if you are going to be employed as a GP in training, your standard hours is 8 hours/day including 30 minutes break and 15 mins morning tea. This is the standard working hours, any additional hours may be overtime subject to your discretion. I don't know how difficult the AMC exam is but I reckon it will be little hard like every medical exams. However, if reading 3 hours every evening will be enough for you to pass, then it is doable. A lot of GPs sat for the exam while working too. You also can do it. This is the best shot you have at early PR. Sit for the exam while working.

Thirdly, if your hospital has minimum of 30 bed with additional services like radiology, optometry etc, you can assess as a medical administrator as suggested by someone. This is up to you to package your application appropriately. This may also give you early PR.

Goodluck

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