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Culture / Re: Why Hausa Language In Bbc, Voa, Germany Radio, China, France Anybody Know ? by Baaballiyo(m): 11:34pm On Jan 23, 2017
Fulaman198:


Well let's hope and I know you will critique me on this one (pray) that the Fulbe race in Nigeria remains intact. Allah wallu en

Ameena
That's my prayer and hope, my family may hv lost the fulfulde language along the way and I may not be able to speak fulfulde apart from the basics but am determined to make sure my own children speak it fluently when start my own family and Allah bless me with children.
Culture / Re: Why Hausa Language In Bbc, Voa, Germany Radio, China, France Anybody Know ? by Baaballiyo(m): 5:57pm On Jan 23, 2017
Fulaman198:


In Nigeria, yes Fulfulde would be classified as a vulnerable language. However, in my previous post, what I was saying is that Fulfulde/Pulaar is not in any danger in fact, it's widely spoken. Look at this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ohdDvn1KM

In other countries, Pure Fulani culture is showing no signs of slowing down. Yet, in other countries, Fulani people do intermingle with other ethnicities (mainly Mande, Songhai, Tuaregs, etc.)

Even if Fulfulde ceases to exist in Nigeria 50 years from now, it will still be spoken in many other countries in the Sahel.

If Fulfulde ceases to exist in Nigeria in the next 50yrs then, morethan half of the fulbe race will be gone since Nigeria has the lion share of the fulbe population so still it would be catastrophic to the fulbe race.

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Religion / Re: Mark Zuckerberg Is Not An Atheist? by Baaballiyo(m): 5:36pm On Jan 23, 2017
Fulaman198:


I have to be honest my brother. The Qu'ran does not teach everything. I believe in God, but where are the answers in the Qu'ran that state how human beings diverged into different cultural groups. How does the Qu'ran explain the evolutionary properties of Humans. Why are some humans brown in tone, whilst others are peach in tone? Why do Humans have such different physical characteristics worldwide? Why does there seem to be no limit to the amounts of science and technologies being discovered on a daily basis?

I believe in God, as many things can not be explained by Science and technology. We have to remember that the great men that wrote the Qu'ran (the word of Allah himself right?) are still just men like me and you.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with religion, however, we live in a modern world where things are expected to be questioned. I consider myself a very moderate Muslim (at best, I might not even be moderate, maybe even light).



Well, the Quran is a guide not a manual so you cant expect to find detailed answers to every question in it, but if you follow its guidance faithfully you will be able to get your answers, it may suffice to say that, even in conventional schools you are not thought everything concerning your field of study you are only given guidance, and the rest of the knowledge of that field is garnered by you through experience, research and hardwork, so if you failed to find answers to certain questions, that does not mean answers to it dont exist, it only means you're yet to come across them. Most of the issues you raised have a single verse in the Qur'an that gives guidance to act upon Qur'an 49:13 says,

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِير.

Translation Word by Word;

O mankind ! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female and We made you nations and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, (the) most noble of you near Allah (is the) most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah (is) All-Knower, All-Aware.

You said "men who wrote the Qur'an" wrote it in what sense ?

Brother to be sincere there's no any extreme, moderate or light Muslim, these are only political nomenclatures devised by enermies of Islam to paint islam in a bad picture. A muslim is a muslim regardless of his action, if his actions are bad then he is a sinner, in reality those that are regarded as extremist follow there own whims and wanted to subdue everything and everyone using religion as an excuse (which is a sinful act), those considered Moderates are those afraid to practice islam to its fullest because they're afraid or insecure about some islamic tenets and the light ones are those with a troubled mind they're procastinator who seems to be hesitating between religion and atheism.

I would like to quote a Christian I can't remember his name but I think he was a Catholic bishop, he said

He who submits to the church did not measure the veracity of the church by the plausibility of its tenets but by the conviction he already have of its veracity.

So religion is about faith not plausible arguments.
So I urge you brother to rethink you stand.

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Culture / Re: Why Hausa Language In Bbc, Voa, Germany Radio, China, France Anybody Know ? by Baaballiyo(m): 6:24pm On Jan 21, 2017
chijiblaze:


Did you actually read the subject heading of the topic. "WHY HAUSA LANGUAGE IN BBC VOA...." of all the points raised by @Fulaman198 not even 1 relates to the topic under discussion unless s/he is trying to imply that all those Fulani / Fula/ Pula/ Peul people in those African countries could equally be counted as Hausa people or that they were all Hausa speaking, which is not the case.
This, I'm trying to correct.

Hmmm I am the one with the opinion that Fulani tend to relate more with Hausa than any other tribe or ethnicity in Africa, and he was trying to prove me wrong, so he is not saying what you think, if you could be patients enough to read the exchange btw us you could see where he is heading to.
Culture / Re: Why Hausa Language In Bbc, Voa, Germany Radio, China, France Anybody Know ? by Baaballiyo(m): 12:21am On Jan 21, 2017
chijiblaze:


I hope you understand that there's a big difference between Hausa and Fulani languages and people.
It's only in Nigeria that you have them as one tribe.
The Fula/ Peul in other African countries don't really speak Hausa. And just the way Fulani is joined together with Hausa in Nigeria, in other countries you have the Fulani joined with the Mandike or Songhai people.
So they have no business with the Hausa language.


I think you should re-read his response he is not saying they're thesame or all fulani speak Hausa language, and even in Nigeria its only in the Northwest you see Hausa and Fulani joined together.
Religion / Re: Mark Zuckerberg Is Not An Atheist? by Baaballiyo(m): 12:02am On Jan 21, 2017
Seun:
I believe that Muslims require more of our assistance, but that's up to ex-muslims.

And you hardly come across ex_muslims.
Culture / Re: Why Hausa Language In Bbc, Voa, Germany Radio, China, France Anybody Know ? by Baaballiyo(m): 5:53pm On Jan 17, 2017
Fulaman198:


Well the thing is this, Let me use the 3 countries I know about the most that have a high population of Hausa and Fulani. We'll start off with our beloved Nigeria, then we will go to Niger Republic and then to Cameroon.

In Nigeria, It is true especially in the Northwest that Fulani are losing their native language to Hausa language. However, in the Northeast States like Taraba, Gombe and Adamawa, it's not necessarily the case. Mbororo'en and settled Fulani can both comprehend Fulfulde and Hausa.

Now in Cameroon, even though we are neighbours, things are the opposite. Where Hausa is the lingua Franca of the North of Nigeria, Fulfulde is the lingua Franca for much of Northern Cameroon. Many groups like the Bute(Vute?) can speak and understand Fulfulde very well and other Bantu groups living in Cameroon. There are even Hausa that speak Fulfulde in Cameroon.

In Niger republic, there are two main regional dialects of Fulfulde. The one in the West which is similar to Maasinakoore and Fulfulde spoken in Northern Benin Republic (Dahomey). Then the dialect in the East, spoken by the Mbororo'en (Wodaabe) similar to the Fulfulde spoken in Adamawa and Taraba states. Many groups in Niger republic do use Hausa as it is the most spoken language there, Tuaregs, Fulanis, Zarma, Toubou (Tebu), Beri-Beri, etc. all use Hausa, but Niger is different in the fact that those groups speak their own languages very well.

In other West African countries, Fulfulde/Pulaar is very alive and well. In Senegal, Mali, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Burkina Faso, Sierra Leone, Gambia, Mauritania, etc. all of those countries have significant Fulani speaking populations and the language is showing absolutely NO SIGNS of dying out in this countries. In fact, there is a Fulani keyboard created by the Fulani Software Engineer from Senegal Malick Sarr.

I think the quote you quoted does not tally with your response; nonetheless; your response addressed the issue of Fulfulde extinction and it was thoroughly plausible and described the present situation; but we're talking of 50 year to come here's an extract from UNESCO's Language Vitality and endangerment frame work;

Degree of
endangerment


SAFE : language is spoken by all generations;
intergenerational transmission is
uninterrupted.

VULNERABLE LANGUAGE: most children speak the language, but it
may be restricted to certain domains (e.g.,
home)


DEFINITELY ENDANGER: children no longer learn the language as
mother tongue in the home.

SEVERELY ENDANGERED: language is spoken by grandparents and
older generations; while the parent
generation may understand it, they do not speak it to children or among themselves.

CRITICALLY ENDANGERED: the youngest speakers are grandparents and
older, and they speak the language partially and infrequently.

EXTINCT: there are no speakers left.

So I don't think fulfulde is presently a Safe language; I would categorize it as a vulnerable language; and if proper measures are not taken; Fulfulde would be moving down along the extinction path ; I cant predict when but the threat is there for all of us to see.

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Religion / Re: Mark Zuckerberg Is Not An Atheist? by Baaballiyo(m): 12:49pm On Jan 17, 2017
Fulaman198:
I personally respect everyone's opinion and point of view. If I may comment on the matter, there is no logical explanation as how human beings came into being from both a religious and scientific point of view.

Scientists believe in the big bang theory, however scientists still don't have an answer as to what may have caused the big bang to occur. Things sometimes happen randomly, but not creation. There has to be a specific reason as to why humans are molded in a particular manner, why there are a plethora of cultures today and why there are an unquantifiable amount of living organisms and species. Where I do agree with science however, is that the first human beings are from Africa and nowhere else. That point can not be refuted.

Religion has its drawbacks as well, and there are many unexplained circumstances and answers. I know I will be criticised by Muslims and Christians on here alike, but I do find religion to be a form of control mechanism to keep people naïve and daft about what's truly going on. Suffice to say, I do believe in God, but I don't believe everything I have read in the Qu'ran for instance.

With what we know today, with the ample amount of technological advances, I can understand why many people go the agnostic route. I urge all of you to think with an open mind.

If you dont believe in everything you read in the Qur'an then you don't have faith; so you don't need to believe in the God who revealed the Qur'an. Besides am very curious as to those parts or sections in the Qur'an you don't believe in; may be you should share them so that we can also be enlightened. This coming from a pullo hmm ??
Dating And Meet-up Zone / Re: Lola's Corner by Baaballiyo(m): 8:53pm On Nov 16, 2016
nubian999:

I do wan sabi speak with the pigeons grin
Hmmm you should be careful not to become one yourself in the process.
Dating And Meet-up Zone / Re: Lola's Corner by Baaballiyo(m): 12:00pm On Nov 16, 2016
nubian999:

Bless you sis. How busy, you done got married busy grin
Looks like you wan sabi speak pidgin.
Dating And Meet-up Zone / Re: Lola's Corner by Baaballiyo(m): 4:56pm On Nov 15, 2016
EnlightenedSoul:
Hey you! Its good to see ya. Let's say life got busy.

Hope you enjoyed it while the busy-ness lasted

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Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 12:37am On Nov 02, 2016
VomeSchakleton:


I find it especially funny that he admits hes not a historian but somehow relies on botched subjective internet material and swears by it. I dont understand how a person can still be butthurt about something that happened over a hundred years ago and no one even cares about. And about the maikano part, the only maikano i know is a fulani man so i dont understand where this radical gets his sources from.

I realised its best to leave him to his interpretation of history.

Gaskiya kam, its best to let him be. He seems confused
Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 1:50pm On Nov 01, 2016
DanZubair:
Ni ma ban sani ba if he is, amman our relatives leaving in kano were there as a result of homage to their brothers and they used to visit us at Sabon birnin gobir and Niger Republic and we too pays them. As there origin and their backbone do you think we should watch while they fight among themselves. we do anything to keep them as brothers before danfodio came and fought us.

Abin dariya; wai Yaro ya tsinci haqori. So you mean Gobirawa sun baro garinsu a Nijar a wancan Zamanin da ya shude domin su raba fada tsakanin yan"uwansu Hausawa ?
Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 1:43pm On Nov 01, 2016
DanZubair:
Like i said i am not a historian, i only learnt from the ones i found on the internet, those broadcasted on tvs at Niger Republic during a visit and through questioning. I was raised and did my primaries and secondaries in Eastern Nigeria but born at North.

There are some gobirawas that have intermarried with fulanis at Nigeria and Niger Republic most especially sokoto where your brothers, toradbe fulanis (torankawas) can't deny sharing relation with gobir hausas. Danfodio married Inna garka who is gobir hausa, mother to the late proficient sultan of sokoto, Sultan Muhammadu Bello. But alas, what the danfodios descendants, torankawas of fulanis are more good at doing is concoting lies and falsifications on the prominent gobirawas, degrading and slaying our patroitic leaders in Gobir/Sokoto East. Torankawa historians should stop concoting lies and falsifications on us because its not allowed in islam.



Gobirawas made fulanis what they are today, but they in return have not done anything credible to favour us, only doing the opposite. Not even a state in Nigeria which they have since decades been denying us because theyre in power. But thank God that we have a recognised state in Niger Rep. by name Tahoua, i dont know the amount of mocks we would have recieved if not for Tahoua state in Niger Republic.

The brothers Nuhou Salihou is pointing at may not be the other hausa tribes. Egypt, eritrea, ethiopia, sudan, yemen are ancient settlements of gobirawas according to our history and theyre evidences found in there. All hausas are gobirawas by name and consolidated in one group (Gungu) at present Niger Rep. before the family heads as a result of desert encroachment dispersed to other regions theyre now and gave name to their group names like kanawas, ranawas, zamfarawas, kabawas, katsinawas, zazzagawas, hadejawas, daurawas, arawas.......Gobirawas are subdivided into family groups e.g konnawas, tudawas, sangerawas, hammadawas, adawas and gobirawas of tsibirin gobir and sabon birni who are the ruling class of gobirawas and refer to themselves as mere gobirawas. This is how other hausa tribes names were gotten.

There is nothing one can do to server the bond of relation between us and our blood brothers and other tribes we mentained cordial relationship with. All hausa tribes according to hausa culture regard gobirawas their cousins, there is a traditional joke (tabbashintaka) thay binds them together till date in hausa land. And that joke is also practised among other gobir subgroups.

Dala is an area in kano not talking of the kano city itself and gobirawas have inhabited there with their brothers ever before danfodio was gotten so there is no room for disdain of calling us slaves in our land. Maikano and dankano is gobir hausa names given to only gobirawas childern born or raised in kano city.

@Bolded.
So Muhammad Bello is after all proficient; wonderful that coming from you.
I wonder how the Gobirawas made the Fulanis who they are; while apart from those fulani living in their domain no other fulani clan had any dealings with them.

I see you dont know that Kano is a name of person, Kano was named after him and Hadejiya was name after a couple named Hade and Jiya who were originaly Kanuri.

No one is trying to severe any bond here we are just trying to account for events gone by.
Finally Maikano is a name given to any person named Abdullahi, because of the late Emirs of Kano Abdullahi Bayero or Abdullahi Maje Karofi.

Lastly like my brother Gorkosusaay advised we should be wary of Internet materials.
Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 9:10pm On Oct 30, 2016
DanZubair:
I am not a historian but i know a little of our history, which you people are tirelessly trying by all means to cover..Danfodio cost us that by razing our history library but almighty God will judge him on the day of judgement.

We all shall be judge accordingly.
Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 9:06pm On Oct 30, 2016
DanZubair:


They migrated from misra in search of their brothers who left them according to nuhou salihou of gobir.org. The ranawas, kanawas..... i think because i am not quitely sure who the brothers were....Gobirawas were the founders of that dala your boasting of and up till today gobirawas are occuping the area and other local governments in kano.

Danfodios forefathers were given settlement in hausa land by the gobirawas of that time according to history, when they were on run.

Gobirawas fighting is by emergency they love peace but being manly choses to defend themselves when needed. Even katsinawas have had opportunity of fighting us but we later showed them our other part by dividing them into Maradi after katsina.

Danfodio who terrorises the hausa race with his haraji haram, brainwashed, fought them and dethroned their kings and installed his brothers. The hausa kingdoms that gave deaf ear to Yunfas message later regreted it before europeans came and supported them to continue with their hypocritic leadership.

Our hausa dialet which is the lingua franca in Niger Rep. speaks best of my claim. Gobiranci/arewanci is the hausa dialet spoken in sokoto, kebbi and other parts of zamfara. One cant just call us none hausas out of hate. How can one take advantage of ruling hausas and be inventing tales to us and even went far of labeling us none hausas.

LOL, be rest assured I donot hate any tribe in this world talkless of Gobirawa, whom I share something in common with, just because my forefathers fought yours that will not make me continue to fight people who have never offended me, but I am a lover of History and I can't standby and look on while wrong historical accounts are being dished out. Let me argue alittle about some of what you claimed above.


1. Gobirawa were mostly on the offensive not defensive during that era, they harass most of their neighbours not the other way round.

2. No one said you are now none Hausas, but originally you were not, and you admitted that Gobirawa arrived later searching for their lost brothers, so if that account is true then it proves they arrived after the Hausa language and culture has already been developed and established by their assumed brother's hence they just adopted it and modify it typical of second language speakers.

3. The "Gayyas, Dalas and Ranaus" of Kano were originally Ethiopians before they came down here and develop Hausa language and culture, they were not Egyptians (Misrans).

4. Its hysterical to say Gobirawa were the founders of Dala, tell that to the Kutumbawa (The direct descendant of the Maguzza) and you will see their rage. Without meaning to offend you, in Kano who ever claims decent from Gobirawa is a decendants of slaves that were mostly brought into Kano after the fall of Gobir.
Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 12:01pm On Oct 27, 2016
DanZubair:


Gobir hausas were not expelled by the tuaregs during their stay at bagazam. Tuaregs met them there and requested the territory from them whenever they were leaving, ((as their migratory behaviour of overall packing.)) Tuaregs tried fighting them but they over powered them and continue with their journey.

The quote in brackets shows that Gobirawa are not originally Hausa because Hausa people are settlers not Migrators (nomadic) by nature.
Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 11:49am On Oct 27, 2016
DanZubair:

We speak the most refined and pure hausa. history of hausa land is in our mist, our system of government is one in used in hausa land and beyond. Then how come we happen to be non hausa, while we are more knowledgeable than in hausa terminology? That gobir hausas are not originally hausa is nothing but false accusations by fulani historians to keep on covering our identity forever, but that maynot be since we still have our oral history off head and the accolades we receive from our brothers and the tribes we maintained cordial relationship with in hausa land and beyond. Fulanis can deny us freedom in Nigeria but cant dare do it at Niger Rep.

Danfodio who they favoured and gave shelter to his forefathers in gobir territory did it during his terrorist movement, HARAJI HARAM, burnt their history library at Alkalawa and also killed their islamic scholars- the scholars that taught him but he being betrayer killed them in return just because they asked him questions regarding islam he cant answer.

Gobir hausas were not expelled by the tuaregs during their stay at bagazam. Tuaregs met them there and requested the territory from them whenever they were leaving, as their migratory behaviour of overall packing. Tuaregs tried fighting them but they over powered them and continue with their journey.


1. Dan fodios forefathers were already established in that area before the Gobirawa came down from aire.

2. During that era, u don't asked for territory you fight for it, so its funny if you believe such impossible tale.

3. Most Hausa of that era don't like Gobirawa because they see them as imposters, and while the true Hausa people love peace the Gobirawa of that time Love to fight. That is why the Hausa folks readily sided with the Fulani when Shehu dan Fodio started his struggles.

3. I don't know when or how the Gobirawa became the purest Hausa people to start with they don't even speak pure Hausa Language.
Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 2:21pm On Oct 26, 2016
monkytail:

Every tribe has it's ancestral home and the ruler of the
ancestral Land..
Who can answer this question..


As for ancestral Leader of Hausa people, I would say Hausa people donot have a single ancestral leader, but for leadership exploits in Hausaland credit most go to the 6 grand sons of bayajidda.
Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 1:55pm On Oct 26, 2016
DanZubair:
This fulanis rulers have done great harm to our history, distorted almost all and addedly invented false history on us, by name Bayajidda and the lake chad of a thing as our origin.

Gobir hausa are the progenitor of hausa kingdoms located at gobir territory now sokoto/sokoto east after danfodio who they favoured carried out war that lead to dissocation of their ruling class to Tsibirin/Tibiri Gobir, Maradi Niger. In Nigeria the ancestral home is Sabon Birnin Gobir while in Niger Rep. its Tsibirin Gobir.

The ruler of S/Birnin Gobir is Sarki Abdulhamid Balarabe, but some of other hausas don't regard gobir hausas as their origin due to the accusations the fulani hypocrite historians labelled on us to cover up their malign and misruling of hausas.

The Gobirawa were not originally Hausa they moved down from Aire in Niger into their present day location around the 12th-13th century when they were expelled from their domain by the Tuaregs, they moved down and carved for themselves a kingdom with headquaters at Alkalawa. Besides I dont think you should blame the Fulani or Europeans for discrepancies in our Histories, because if other Hausa states had documented their histories like the people of Kano did there could have been no room for distortions. And again the Hausa bakwai were in existence long before Gobir came into existence.
Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 1:48pm On Oct 26, 2016
mansakhalifa:
the Malian empire never ruled
over the hausa city states. Songhay did. Plus the sarkinate of Kano[founded in AD 999] was jst as old if not older than Mali.

wow I like this your nomenclature "Sarkinate" .

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Culture / Re: Where Is The Ancestral Home Of All Hausas And Who Is The Ruler..? by Baaballiyo(m): 1:38pm On Oct 26, 2016
monkytail:

Every tribe has it's ancestral home and the ruler of the
ancestral Land..
Who can answer this question..


Kano is the ancestral home of all Hausa people, according to some written and oral sources the original proginators of Hausa people were among the offspring of Prophet Suleiman ( Solomon) and Bilkisu (Queen of Sheeba) through their son Emperor Menelik 1 of Ethiopia. The original proginators who were members of the Ethiopian royal family called " Maguzza" (hence the term Maguzawa) moved down west from Ethiopia during the reign of Emperor Walde Makonin 1, with their family members, they were

1. Dala, his wife Jakara and their four sons Gagiwa, Gunzago, Buzame, and Nisau.

2. Gayya, his wife Batta and his two sons Haruna and Lemo and a daughter called Aba-giya.

3. Ranau, his wife Bakwasa, his son Shike and daughter Cakwaya.

These families were believed to have travelled all the way from ethiopia untill they reached the eastern corner of the present day Kano state were Gayya and his family settled there and today the area is called "Gaya" presently it is a local government area with a second class Emir titled " Sarkin Gaya".

After Gayya settled, Dala and Ranau kept their westward movement until they reached present day Kano city were Dala decided to settled with his family on one of the two hills in that area the hill he settled on is now called "Dutsen Dala" ( Dala Hill) and this site (hill) is presently a tourist site within the walled city of Kano.

After Dala settled, Ranau decided to keep moving southward from were Dala settled untill he reached an area with many hills and settled there, that area is now called "Rano" its also a local government area with a second class Emir titled"Sarkin Rano". It is believed all Hausas are from this three families, their offsprings spread to different locations of present day Hausaland.

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Romance / Re: Twelve Pictorial Differences Between Men And Women by Baaballiyo(m): 3:46pm On Sep 19, 2016
Hilarously True
Culture / Re: Why Hausa Language In Bbc, Voa, Germany Radio, China, France Anybody Know ? by Baaballiyo(m): 3:18pm On Sep 19, 2016


When the Hausa radio stations like BBC Hausa was created, Hausa wasn't nearly as popular, even in Northern Nigeria as it is today.
so you can't argue that the universality of Hausa in the North is what favoured the creation of international mass media to broadcast in this language. Inffact the fact that BBC and co chose to broadcast in hausa is part of what has facilitated the expansion of the language, and not the other way round (i.e Hausa being chosen for universality)

these foreign media outlets, are among the people contributing the most to the dearth and sublimation of indigenous cultures and languages in Nigeria....... the same way the British were.. and still are promoting Swahili- which has led and continues to lead to the mass extinction of many cultures in Tanzania. .... or like they did in their own backyards to languages like Irish Gaelic (Gaelige) and Celtic........ Thank god Fulanis are too widespread for all that rubbish.
for those smaller tribes with limited geographical depth--- say bye bye to all of them in 50 years time (if not even less sef)

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@Fulaman198 thanks for calling me to the other thread.



Are you sure fulfulde will hold its ground in the next 50yrs also ? Even in non Hausa speaking areas the language is slowly yielding especially to French and English languages and the population of its fluent speakers is dwindling by the day, our best bet to preserve the language are the mbororo'en, and even they are gradually settling and the more they settle the more the treat of extinction.
Culture / Re: Why Hausa Language In Bbc, Voa, Germany Radio, China, France Anybody Know ? by Baaballiyo(m): 3:04pm On Sep 19, 2016
Fulaman198:


I don't know about that one man, I understand that in Nigeria you may be correct. But in other countries where there are a high presence of Fulani people you may not be so correct.


Even in those countries if there is a significant population of Hausa people you will surely find the Hausa and Fulani closer to each other than with other tribes and vice versa.
Culture / Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by Baaballiyo(m): 1:43pm On Sep 15, 2016
lawani:


You talk like an infant. I am not a scholar of Kano history but the fact that there is Tudun Nufawa in Kano is clear indication that Yoruba have compound there. I dont need to even make enquiries. The Hausa call Oyo ile Katunga and Katunga was bigger than any of their cities, so how can Katunga people not have a compound in Kano while the Nufawa has? That does not make sense Mr. At any point, Yorubawa surpass Nufawa in Kano. So what you are saying is again infantile rubbish as usual. Yoruba have compound in Kano! Then the only two groups that can weigh against Yorubas in West Africa are Igbos and Hausas, not Fulani of course.

LOL you talk like an old man, you admitted not knowing the history of Kano and yet you are arguing base on assumptions.
Culture / Re: Hausa Language Could Be The Next Official Language Of Nigeria. by Baaballiyo(m): 5:23pm On Sep 14, 2016
bigfrancis21:


In my reference to Hausa language, I included the non-native speakers of the north, most of whom Hausa is their native language now.

Igbos and Yorubas living in the North who may learn Hausa learn it as a third language of sorts, for several reasons such as business reasons (especially by the Igbos to sell successfully in the North and also be aware of what's going on around them all the time) or communication reasons since majority of Hausas are monolingual. This in no way means that they Igbos and Yorubas who are Hausa speakers no longer speak their native language. They pick up the language as a third or fourth language (they speak Igbo/Yoruba, English and pidgin already) for convenience. They do not speak it at home nor transmit it to their children unlike the non-Hausa Hausa-speaking people of the north. That is the difference.

The reasons they learned Hausa doesn't matter likewise whether its there first, second, third, fourth or fifth language. What matters is that they speak the language that's all.
Culture / Re: Hausa Language Could Be The Next Official Language Of Nigeria. by Baaballiyo(m): 5:19pm On Sep 14, 2016
Scholes00:


The statement in quote is a big fat lie. The reason Hausa is so big today is simply because of the activity of Fulani expansionists in the North who succeeded in colonizing a large swathe of land above the Niger and pillaging native homelands of other northern tribes. Becoming feudal lords in many of these areas and introducing Hausa into non native areas. The British came and completed the job. Directly encouraging the propagation of Hausa and even deliberately placing so called "pagan" tribes over Hausa-Fulani overlords to obliterate their native customs.

Well, you said introducing Hausa into non native areas,
and the British directly encouraged the propagation of Hausa.
All these pointed to the fact that the language was Introduced and propagated through peaceful means.

I said " While most Nigerian Languages " not all so if Yoruba not amongst the most fine.
Culture / Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by Baaballiyo(m): 5:02pm On Sep 14, 2016
AjaanaOka:


If this passage is to be believed, there is/was a Yoruba-founded ward in Kano called Ayugi. What do you make of this?

May be there was, since the passasge said about the 15th century, as of present there's no ward\compound called Ayugi in Kano, besides all settlers in Kano from were ever they came never founded any ward including the Fulani, at the time of there arrival the palace usually assigned a compound for them to settled there and that area is usually under an already existing ward with a Hausa ward head.
Culture / Re: Hausa Language Could Be The Next Official Language Of Nigeria. by Baaballiyo(m): 1:17pm On Sep 12, 2016
bigfrancis21:
This is very unlikely. The strength of Hausa language lies in the fact that many of them are not as educated or westernized as Igbos and Yorubas and are thus more likely to be monolingual in Hausa, compared to Igbos and Yorubas that are often more educated and more likely to be bilingual in English and their native language.

That may be true for native speakers. what of the non-native speakers who's population surpassed that of the native speakers which included both Igbos and Yorubas ?
Culture / Re: Hausa Language Could Be The Next Official Language Of Nigeria. by Baaballiyo(m): 1:09pm On Sep 12, 2016
Chanchit:



i'm from the SW so figure it out. The only region that may have problem agreeing on a language is the SS

So you think/believe if Nigeria breaks SW will be on its own ?
Culture / Re: Fulani Herdsmen Aren’t Criminals —emir Of Ilorin by Baaballiyo(m): 11:19am On Sep 12, 2016
lawani:


Yoruba have been trading all over the place for thousands of years but if we never conquered a place, as in subdue it, we dont say we control it. People like Amos Adamu, Babangida and etc are Yorubas who have assimilated into the culture of their hosts. Go to even Mali, there will be traditional compounds headed by people of Yoruba descent. In Kano, there are Mai Ungwars of Nupe, Yoruba descent. A sizeable percentage of Hausa, Kanuri and etc are Yoruba descent paternally even if 2 percent but Yorubas assimilate well. So a Gambari is a Yoruba man not a Hausa man. I believe you are Fulani and not Yoruba or Hausa, so Ilorin does not concern you! Better behave yourself. You have nothing with Yoruba. The people of Balogun Fulani in Ilorin can only speak with you in English. Those are Yorubas ethnically and by DNA if you test them. A Hausa descended man was made Emir in Ilorin to prove that Hausas afterall can make good Emirs despite that they are not allowed to be Emir on Hausa land. So behave yourself and face your issues. When Nigeria breaks up, Ilorin can not join Sokoto, neither can Jebba, Bariba, Kabba, Igala and etc. Fulani have negligible stake in all those places. They are not indigenes. So it does not make sense for you to be fretting over Ilorin a Yoruba traditional state that appointed a Hausa descended man as Emir to spite the Fulani holding Hausa land by the jugular!

We all know that when Yoruba say f, Hausa use p. So their word is Pula where ours is Fula or Fulani. The cattle Fulani to Hausas are Bororo. The word Pul, Pulbe, Fulbe are used by the town Fulani to describe themselves but Yorubas dont use those words, what we know is Fulani while Hausas see the town Fulanis as Hausas and the cattle Fulani as Bororo. So the word Fulani is a Yoruba nomenclature.

You never betray your nature, twisting and moulding established facts to fit your tale, If Nupe are Yoruba then I agree they have a compound in kano called " Tudun Nufawa" but Nupe are not Yoruba's, and the Kanuris also. In Hausa language there's no alphabet 'P', when you see 'P' in pular, peul, pullo e.t.c. its mostly used by Franco phoney nations ( Nations that speak French). And the mbororo'en are called "Bararoji/Bararo" in Hausa not bororo. Your bitterness to what Fulani did to Ilorin over two centuries ago makes one think may be you are a reincarnation of Afonja. Nonetheless, whether or not u are his reincarnation history had already been made and no amount of twisting and moulding by the Lawanis of this world could change that.

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