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Christianity EtcRe: Whitney Houston: A Case Study Of Generational Curse by BabaGnoni:
kevoh:
Did Whitney's mother also drown in her bathtub? Did her grandmother also drown in her bathtub? Generational curse my foot! angry
^^^
Excellent response!

Such is what happens when momma and child toy with drugs and stray from the narrow path great big momma walked and same path big momma, who is still alive, is still walking on...
PS: Please forgive me for briefly on the spur of the moment thinking what is about to follow or what you're about to read
When I first read it. I thought hmm, smells fishy, maybe the chap who found her and who raised the alarm had a hand in it (i.e. making it look like a copy death and/or suicidal attempt)
Who gets to gain if Bobbi suddenly kicks the bucket?
Christianity EtcRe: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by BabaGnoni: 11:15pm On Feb 01, 2015
Ifeann:
Its an okay documentary. . No gore scenes. .
Hmm, thank you...
I've just finished watching it
The below at the beginning (i.e. 1:06 - 1:10) reverberated in my ears throughout watching the video
1:06 if it was not illegal to kill or
1:10 if they would guarantee that there would be no punishment, some of us will be dead by now
Christianity EtcRe: My Article "Why I Left Islam" Was Deleted Because It Is Unsafe To Say The Truth by BabaGnoni: 10:13pm On Feb 01, 2015
Ifeann:
I just watched the documentary.
Its very educative, I have always known that not all Muslims are like tartar, ayinba, abuamam etc. This is why I never insult Muslims.
The thing is that Muslims like u are so like christains in behaviour, u are also a very small voice in Islam.
I just discovered a guy called BabaGnoni, he seems to be a level headed quranist.
I was pained to see what decent anti hadith Muslims Go thru.
It was also incredible to hear that ignorant muslim refer to that nice muslim doctor as an extremist.

Empiree watch this doc;
h t t p s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ZECSUg8iY

Pay attention in the 46th minute mark and hear a morderate muslim complain about an extremist Muslims imam using al Taqiyya, he refered to it as double discourse.
Level headed, I humbly accept, quranist, whatever that means, I doubt
Ah, I am not sure I have the liver to watch this, as it looks gruesome just looking at the snapshot
Will watch it later or at some stage, after mustering the will power
PoliticsRe: Checkout This Photo Of Coca-cola Customized With Buhari's Name by BabaGnoni:
dominique:
Looks photoshopped
FriedPlantain:
true, it looks photoshopped angry
thaoriginator:
Is it real, or is it fake?
Anyway, Sai Sai Sai!
abbeyberry:
abeg ooooo, which planet or village you people are commenting from.
The bottle is real. it's the new innovation from coca cola; you too can get yours (name) at no xtra-cost.
timbros:
That picture is photoshopped.
Coca Cola don't use that font used in writing "Buhari" in their products.
Check well.
Scout60:
Nairalanders are so dumb
Poor photoshop....
Op pix of cartons of dis or ur are a .........
jamesbridget13:
abeggi. coca cola did it for so many names. the advert is all over tv
https://s22.postimg.org/kmks7al75/coke.jpg
The Share-a-Coke Story
http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/share-a-coke/share-a-coke.html
Christianity EtcRe: Goliath Skull Was Discovered in Holy Land! by BabaGnoni: 12:58pm On Feb 01, 2015
The National Geographic Society has not discovered ancient giant humans, despite rampant reports and pictures.

The hoax began with a doctored photo and later found a receptive online audience—thanks perhaps to the image's unintended religious connotations

Web sites dedicated to debunking urban legends and "netlore" picked up on the various giant hoaxes soon after they first appeared.

California-based Snopes.com, for example, noted that the skeleton image had been lifted from Worth1000, which hosts photo-manipulation competitions.

A digitally altered photograph created in 2002 shows a reclining giant surrounded by a wooden platform—with a shovel-wielding archaeologist thrown in for scale.

Titled "Giants," the skeleton-and-shoveler picture had won third place in a 2002 contest called "Archaeological Anomalies 2."

The image's creator—an illustrator from Canada who goes by the screen name IronKite—told National Geographic News via email that he had had nothing to do with the subsequent hoax.

The photo fakery might be obvious to most people. But the tall tale refuses to lie down even years later

How the Image Was Made

IronKite started with an aerial photo of a mastodon excavation in Hyde Park, New York, in 2000.

He then digitally superimposed a human skeleton over the beast's remains.

IronKite said he's tickled that the picture—which took only about an hour and a half to create—has generated so much Internet attention.

"I laugh myself silly when some guy claims to know someone who was there, or even goes so far as to claim that he or she was there when they found the skeleton and took the picture," IronKite said.

"Sometimes people seem so desperate to believe in something that they lie to themselves, or exaggerate in order to make their own argument stronger."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071214-giant-skeleton_2.html
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Origin Of The Catholic Church by BabaGnoni: 12:38pm On Feb 01, 2015
coolscott:
Answer: The Roman Catholic Church contends that its origin is the death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ in approximately AD 30. The Catholic Church proclaims itself to be the church that Jesus Christ died for, the church that was established and built by the apostles. Is that the true origin of the Catholic Church? On the contrary. Even a cursory reading of the New Testament will reveal that the Catholic Church does not have its origin in the teachings of Jesus or His apostles. In the New Testament, there is no mention of the papacy, worship/adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture. So, if the origin of the Catholic Church is not in the teachings of Jesus and His apostles, as recorded in the New Testament, what is the true origin of the Catholic Church?

For the first 280 years of Christian history, Christianity was banned by the Roman Empire, and Christians were terribly persecuted. This changed after the “conversion” of the Roman Emperor Constantine. Constantine provided religious toleration with the Edict of Milan in AD 313, effectively lifting the ban on Christianity. Later, in AD 325, Constantine called the Council of Nicea in an attempt to unify Christianity. Constantine envisioned Christianity as a religion that could unite the Roman Empire, which at that time was beginning to fragment and divide. While this may have seemed to be a positive development for the Christian church, the results were anything but positive. Just as Constantine refused to fully embrace the Christian faith, but continued many of his pagan beliefs and practices, so the Christian church that Constantine promoted was a mixture of true Christianity and Roman paganism.

Constantine found that, with the Roman Empire being so vast, expansive, and diverse, not everyone would agree to forsake his or her religious beliefs to embrace Christianity. So, Constantine allowed, and even promoted, the “Christianization” of pagan beliefs. Completely pagan and utterly unbiblical beliefs were given new “Christian” identities. Some clear examples of this are as follows:

(1) The Cult of Isis, an Egyptian mother-goddess religion, was absorbed into Christianity by replacing Isis with Mary. Many of the titles that were used for Isis, such as “Queen of Heaven,” “Mother of God,” and theotokos (“God-bearer”) were attached to Mary. Mary was given an exalted role in the Christian faith, far beyond what the Bible ascribes to her, in order to attract Isis worshippers to a faith they would not otherwise embrace. Many temples to Isis were, in fact, converted into temples dedicated to Mary. The first clear hints of Catholic Mariology occur in the writings of Origen, who lived in Alexandria, Egypt, which happened to be the focal point of Isis worship.

(2) Mithraism was a religion in the Roman Empire in the 1st through 5th centuries AD. It was very popular among the Romans, especially among Roman soldiers, and was possibly the religion of several Roman emperors. While Mithraism was never given “official” status in the Roman Empire, it was the de facto official religion until Constantine and succeeding Roman emperors replaced Mithraism with Christianity. One of the key features of Mithraism was a sacrificial meal, which involved eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a bull. Mithras, the god of Mithraism, was “present” in the flesh and blood of the bull, and when consumed, granted salvation to those who partook of the sacrificial meal (this is known as theophagy, the eating of one’s god). Mithraism also had seven “sacraments,” making the similarities between Mithraism and Roman Catholicism too many to ignore. Church leaders after Constantine found an easy substitute for the sacrificial meal of Mithraism in the concept of the Lord’s Supper/Christian communion. Even before Constantine, some early Christians had begun to attach mysticism to the Lord’s Supper, rejecting the biblical concept of a simple and worshipful remembrance of Christ’s death and shed blood. The Romanization of the Lord’s Supper made the transition to a sacrificial consumption of Jesus Christ, now known as the Catholic Mass/Eucharist, complete.

(3) Most Roman emperors (and citizens) were henotheists. A henotheist is one who believes in the existence of many gods, but focuses primarily on one particular god or considers one particular god supreme over the other gods. For example, the Roman god Jupiter was supreme over the Roman pantheon of gods. Roman sailors were often worshippers of Neptune, the god of the oceans. When the Catholic Church absorbed Roman paganism, it simply replaced the pantheon of gods with the saints. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these, and many other categories. Just as many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, so the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for the cities.

(4) The supremacy of the Roman bishop (the papacy) was created with the support of the Roman emperors. With the city of Rome being the center of government for the Roman Empire, and with the Roman emperors living in Rome, the city of Rome rose to prominence in all facets of life. Constantine and his successors gave their support to the bishop of Rome as the supreme ruler of the church. Of course, it is best for the unity of the Roman Empire that the government and state religion be centralized. While most other bishops (and Christians) resisted the idea of the Roman bishop being supreme, the Roman bishop eventually rose to supremacy, due to the power and influence of the Roman emperors. When the Roman Empire collapsed, the popes took on the title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors—Pontifex Maximus.

Many more examples could be given. These four should suffice in demonstrating the origin of the Catholic Church. Of course, the Roman Catholic Church denies the pagan origin of its beliefs and practices. The Catholic Church disguises its pagan beliefs under layers of complicated theology and “church tradition.” Recognizing that many of its beliefs and practices are utterly foreign to Scripture, the Catholic Church is forced to deny the authority and sufficiency of Scripture.

The origin of the Catholic Church is the tragic compromise of Christianity with the pagan religions that surrounded it. Instead of proclaiming the gospel and converting the pagans, the Catholic Church “Christianized” the pagan religions, and “paganized” Christianity. By blurring the differences and erasing the distinctions, yes, the Catholic Church made itself attractive to the people of the Roman Empire. One result was the Catholic Church becoming the supreme religion in the Roman world for centuries. However, another result was the most dominant form of Christianity apostatizing from the true gospel of Jesus Christ and the true proclamation of God’s Word.

“For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” Second Timothy 4:3–4

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html#ixzz3QRqGJa6G
- EXCERPT -

• Roman Emperors Constantine and Licinius' Edict of Milan in AD 313 which established a policy of religious freedom for all.
(i.e. a proclamation that permanently legalised Christianity in the Roman Empire)
• Christianity becoming the official religion of the Roman Empire.
• the sell-out and/or shady deal(s) (e.g. "Church" and State collaboration under Constantine)
• The regularisation and formation of the Roman Catholic Church (i.e. RCC)
Roman Empire's adoption of RCC as "official" church during Constantine's reign
• The supremacy of the Roman bishop (i.e. the papacy) created/aided with the support of the Roman emperors (i.e. Constantine and his successors)
Constantine calling the First Council of Nicaea in AD 325, in an attempt to unify Christianity when doctrinal disputes arose
(e.g. Arianism, doctrines named after Arius, a teacher in the early 4th century A.D) and presiding over this first ecumenical church council
• the exploits of the apostles, all charged up in their faith, preaching the Gospel and like Jesus willing to die horrible deaths because of it.
The apostolic period (i.e. including The "patristic writings'') - about contemporaries of the apostles like Linus, mentioned in 2 Timothy 4:21, and who became the bishop of Rome after Peter was martyred
the ante-Nicene (i.e. before Nicaea) period - about the likes of Ignatius and his "ekklesia katholicos" phrase, he was a disciple of the apostle John
• the post-Nicene "church" period - about the likes of Augustine, bishop of Hippo, who is often called the father of the [Roman Catholic] Church because of his great work in Church doctrine
• The term "Roman Catholic" defined by Emperor Theodosius on February 27th, 380 in the Theodosian Code.
In that document, he referred to those who hold to the "religion which was delivered to the Romans by the divine Apostle Peter"
as "Roman Catholic Christians" and gave them the official sanction of the empire

1st century AD - ekklēsia founded on the teachings of Jesus
2nd century AD - Christians already denouncing teachings seen as heresies, e.g Gnosticism, Montanism etc
4th century AD - ekklēsia transformed, church evolves, finally legalized and then promoted by Emperors Constantine and Theodosius I as the state church of the Roman Empire

(Church History): Where Did We Come From and Where are We Headed?
https://www.nairaland.com/1856979/e-grace-convention-20-14/2#25506104

- /EXCERPT -
Christianity EtcRe: Women Should Not Keep Quiet In Church ! by BabaGnoni: 11:53am On Feb 01, 2015
esere826:
@BabaGnoni
Tnx for the video and transcript
I've gone through them.
^^^
No problemo. You're welcome.
Any time and anything for the Kingdom sake
I suppose you are still ruminating the video and transcript
Hope it turns out to be bon appetit come true
Christianity EtcRe: 2015 Prophecies For Nairaland Members & Nairaland Visitors by BabaGnoni: 9:38am On Feb 01, 2015
vooks:
BabaGnoni,
I have never seen that word BRANDING, am used to KJV 'seared' and I had in mind corporate brands such as Coke and Huawei grin

Among others I believe the biggest error of Pentecostal movement is delegating back to God what he assigned us. He makes Adam and presents animals to see what names he would give them.
Adam goes back to his prayer closet and embarks on a 16-day dry fast so he may get a revelation on the names.....

Jehovah had given Adam an innate ability, BRAINS, INTELLIGENCE, CREATIVITY sufficient to name animals and here is Adam ignoring ALL that and waiting on God to do 'help' him!

Joagbaje probably was waiting for a 'witness in his spirit', a fuzzy feeling, a conviction that these dudes was genuine instead of applying his common senses. This is why when you are convinced that a man is an MoG, you IGNORE everything suggesting he is not. He may worship Devils for all you care but nothing moves you. Not even when he fornicates with your wife!

That's the bane of Pentecostal Movement; dearth of critical thinking.
Thinking is carnal.
Thinking is resisting the Holy Spirit
Thinking is sin.
Why think when Holy Spirit can think for you?
Thinking is unnecessary.
Holy Spirit will think for you.
Discard your brains and arm you with the 'mind of Christ'
vooks, I didnt want to post in this manner but the bold above and other reasons necessitated it

Christ Embassy is a brand, Winners Chapel is a brand, KICC is a brand, Mountain of Fire & Miracles Ministries is a brand, RCCG is a brand,
Adoration Ground is a brand, House on the Rock is a brand, Daystar Christian Centre is a brand, the list-goes-on is a brand

The corporate/corporation church sells these brands with Jesus dust sprinkled on.

The snake oil salesmen in these corporate/corporation churches are branded/seared with the red hot iron dollar sign

The dollar sign is an economical symbol, so "charlatans and liars" have the red hot iron dollar sign (i.e. the mark of the beast dollar) too...
They have this dollar sign in common with the snake oil salesmen in the corporate/corporation churches

The dollar mark is an identifier, once spotted or detected on each other, it makes rubbing shoulders with each other, associating with each other and/or tolerating each other easy without so much of batting an eyelid

It makes them act as though nothing is unusual about the "charlatans and liars"
Christianity EtcRe: Women Should Not Keep Quiet In Church ! by BabaGnoni:
^^^
frosbel, it beats me why you forced yourself out of hibernation just to knee jerk post the above

You too, like EvilBrain1, obviously haven't watched the video I posted nor read the transcript before trigger happy pulling out the above.

Watch the video and if you and EvilBrain1 are honest about it, both will find Paul been vindicated of misogyny,
furthermore the result of watching it will be a surprising eye-opener!
Christianity EtcRe: Moral Conformism And Self-discovery by BabaGnoni: 7:33pm On Jan 31, 2015
edogho:
hahahaha
u neva jam
What's that suppose to mean, sorry you didnt communicate
Christianity EtcRe: Women Should Not Keep Quiet In Church ! by BabaGnoni:
EvilBrain1:
@BabaGnoni
You accuse me of making things up, yet in the next breath you refer to OP who quoted this:
Then wrote this:
Do you have a short term memory problem? You should really get that looked at.
*Edit: I'll modify my last post so that it's clear that I was replying to OP if you like.
Hopefully, that should make it stop confusing you
.

Also, if Paul wrote Corinthians, then he was a misogynist by definition. Words have meanings which are not subject to your personal opinion.
Whilst you are at your editing, remember that I wrote:
"...No one has blamed Paul on this thread except possibly OP..."
I dont have a short term memory problem sir, but it seems that maybe its you who should have gone to Specsavers
Christianity EtcRe: Women Should Not Keep Quiet In Church ! by BabaGnoni: 4:47pm On Jan 31, 2015
EvilBrain1:
@BabaGnoni

You accuse me of making things up, yet in the next breath you refer to OP who quoted this:
There is good evidence that these two verses were not part of Paul’s original writing, but were added to the text by scribes or copyists. It is never desirable to change Christian practice by omitting a verse of the Bible. Nevertheless, it is honest to recognize that occasionally the biblical text was changed, and in this case there are a number of pieces of evidence that certainly seem to warrant removing these verses that say women should be silent in the church. Before we examine those, however, it must be admitted that if these verses are an addition to the Greek text, it would have been an early addition, because the verses appear in the Greek manuscripts of 1 Corinthians.
EvilBrain1:
Then wrote this:
frosbel:

"How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?"
- Jeremiah 8:8
EvilBrain1:
Do you have a short term memory problem? You should really get that looked at.
*Edit: I'll modify my last post so that it's clear that I was replying to OP if you like. Hopefully, that should make it stop confusing you.

Also, if Paul wrote Corinthians, then he was a misogynist by definition. Words have meanings which are not subject to your personal opinion..
^^^
What's all that above about, when did I turn to frosbel?
All that above is OP (i.e frosbel)
Christianity EtcRe: Women Should Not Keep Quiet In Church ! by BabaGnoni:
Christianity EtcRe: Women Should Not Keep Quiet In Church ! by BabaGnoni: 4:04pm On Jan 31, 2015
EvilBrain1:
Saint Paul was a misogynist. It is very clear in all his writings. He had a very low opinion of women which is why he wrote what he wrote.

It is ridiculous to try and rehabilitate him by claiming that the parts of his letters you don't happen to like weren't written by him.
You'll need pretty strong evidence for that and that evidence simply does not exist.
While he almost certainly didn't write 1st and 2nd Timothy and he might not have written Ephesians, the 2 letters to the Corinthians are definitely his and the misogyny in them is perfectly in line with the pseudoepigraphical letters.

Even when you remove all the likely forged stuff from the new testament there's still plenty of bigotry left.
In fact, the forged stuff was included in the canon precisely because it was in line with the spirit of the rest of the books.
The christian message is mainly one of intolerance to other religions, groups and lifestyles. And women were not spared.

h t t p://youtu.be/A1JIKOMQV5A
You must have been reading a different thread, if not, then you definitely are making things up
No one has blamed Paul on this thread except possibly OP

No one said or has tried to "rehabilitate him by claiming that the parts of his letters you don't happen to like weren't written by him"
As a matter of fact, now that you brought it up, Paul actually is innocent and acquitted of any libel and/or charge put to him
- the 2 letters to the Corinthians are definitely his and it is absent or void of misogyny

You certainly didnt watch the video above you
nor read the transcript from start to end before springing out a video of your own
like as if pulling a rabbit out a hat or doing a jack-in-the-box stunt

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