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Than you for admitting the fact that we have kids but what difference has your old legs made when they played Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U?

Though there is a Central Mosque in Enugu but Muslims travel far in order to observe Jumuah. Its not like North, South or West where you have osques here and there. Most Muslims observe prayers at home with tow or more fellow Muslims

Vela failed to score yesterday because he saw one pretty girl behind the post. (Na so them tell me)

The boy disgraced me no be small yesterday.

Our Sheik Lagosby is doing wondeful job here

It is so because Islamic preaching efforts are not as strong in Igboland. Imagine this: A neighbour that went to serve in Enugu state said when he was performing ablution, the kids around were watching him, amazed at what he was doing i.e they had never seen somebody do that before. When he mentioned Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) to them, they didn't know who he was. Their best guess was 'Murtala Mohammed, former president. That is how ignorant they are about the message of Islam.

Similar story of a brother that did his NYSC in Enugu. He normally travelled far to observe Jumah prayer and when trying to pray at home, they would gather around him trying to know what he wanted to do.

Hey Davidylan

Whats your problem again so that I solve it but would not want your usual Olodo style

thanks for ur reply.

but the fact i needed is that.

the question say. since some people are fabricating hadeeths,

explain how we can still rely on hadeeths as a source of protedted devine revelation.

thanks

Lagosboy has done a great work in explaining the ones to rely on but you could still get fabricated ones through Isnad which would make you know if its Hasan, Sahih, Daif or Mawdu.

Where is Bawomolo?

So when u re reading a translation, u should have it at the back of ur mind that u re only reading something to pass u little information about the qur'an but not exactly as what the qur'an is saying.

In what way does it pass little information please?

na wolof Gmbians dey speak

Which one be dis again

Deep Thinking

Have you ever thought about the fact that you did not exist before you were conceived and then born into the world and that you have come into existence from mere nothingness?

Have you ever thought about how the fragrant and beautifully coloured flowers you see everyday have come out of pitch black, muddy soil?

Have you ever thought about how mosquitoes, which irritatingly fly around you, move their wings so fast that we are unable to see them?

Have you ever thought about how the peels of fruits such as bananas, watermelons, melons and oranges serve as wrappings of high quality, and how the fruits are packed in these wrappings so that they maintain their taste and fragrance?

Have you ever thought about the possibility that while you are asleep a sudden earthquake could raze your home, your office, and your city to the ground and that in a few seconds you could lose everything of the world you possess?

Have you ever thought of how your life passes away very quickly, and that you will grow old and become weak, and slowly lose your beauty, health and strength?

Have you ever thought about how one day you will find the angels of death appointed by Allah before you and that you will then leave this world?

Have you ever thought about why people are so attached to a world from which they will soon depart when what they basically need is to strive for the Hereafter?

Man is a being whom Allah furnishes with the faculty of thought. Yet, most people do not use this very important faculty as they should. In fact, some people almost never think.

In truth, each person possesses a capacity for thought of which even he himself is unaware. Once man begins to use this capacity, facts he has not been able to realise until that very moment begin to be uncovered for him. The deeper he goes in reflection, the more his capacity to think improves, and this is possible for everyone. One just has to realise that one needs to reflect and then to strive hard.

The purpose of this write-up is to invite people to think in the best way and show ways of doing this. Someone who does not think will remain totally distant from truths and lead his life in self-deception and error. As a result, he will not grasp the purpose of the creation of the world, and the reason for his existence on the earth. Yet, Allah has created everything with a purpose. This fact is stated in the Qur'an as follows:

We did not create the heavens and the earth and everything between them as a game. We did not create them except with truth but most of them do not know it. (Surat ad-Dukhan: 38-39)

Did you suppose that We created you for amusement and that you would not return to Us.(Surat al-Muminun: 115)

Therefore, each person needs to ponder the purpose of creation, first as it concerns him himself, and then as it pertains to everything he sees in the universe and every event he experiences throughout his life. Someone who does not think, will understand the facts only after he dies, when he gives account before Allah, but then it will be too late. Allah says in the Qur'an that on the day of account, everybody will think and see the truth:

That day Hell is produced, that day man will remember; but how will the remembrance help him.
He will say, "Oh! If only I had prepared in advance for this life of mine!" (Surat al-Fajr: 23-24)

While Allah has given us a chance in the life of this world to reflect and derive conclusions from our reflections, to see the truth will bring us great gain in our life in the Hereafter. For this reason, Allah has summoned all people, through His prophets and books, to reflect on their creation and on the creation of the universe:

Have they not reflected within themselves. Allah did not create the heavens and the earth and everything between them except with truth and for a fixed term. Yet many people reject the meeting with their Lord. (Surat ar-Rum:

Most people believe that in order to think deeply, one needs to put one's head between one's hands, withdraw to an empty room, and isolate oneself from all other people and affairs. Indeed, they make such a big issue of thinking deeply that they find it too difficult, and imagine that it is a quality exclusive to philosophers.

However, as being stated earlier, Allah invites people to reflect and says that He has revealed the Qur'an for people to reflect on it: "It is a book We have sent down to you, full of blessing, so let people of intelligence ponder its signs and take heed." (Surah Sad: 29). What is important is one's sincerely improving one's ability to think and going deeper in thinking.

On the other hand, people who do not spend effort to that end continue their lives in deep heedlessness. The word heedlessness has connotations like neglectfulness without forgetting, abandoning, being mistaken, disregarding, being careless. The heedless state of those who do not reflect is a consequence of forgetting or deliberately disregarding the purpose of their creation and of the realities which religion teaches. Yet, this is an extremely dangerous course that may lead to Hell. Correspondingly, Allah has warned people against being among the heedless:

Remember your Lord in yourself humbly and fearfully, without loudness of voice, morning and evening. Do not be of the heedless ones. (Surat al-A'raf: 205)

Warn them of the day of bitter regret when the affair will be resolved. But they take no notice and they do not believe. (Surah Maryam: 39)

In the Qur'an, Allah refers to people who reflect and who, after reflecting conscientiously, see the truth and therefore fear Him. Allah says that those who blindly follow their forefathers without thinking, out of tradition, are wrong. When asked, these people say that they are religious and believe in Allah, yet, since they do not think, they do not amend their conduct from fear of Allah. In the following verses, the mentality of these people is clearly laid out:

Say: "To whom does the earth belong, and everyone in it, if you have any knowledge."

They will say: "To Allah." Say: "So will you not pay heed."

Say: "Who is the Lord of the Seven Heavens and the Lord of the Mighty Throne."

They will say: "Allah." Say: "So will you not have taqwa*."

Say: "In whose hand is the dominion over everything, He who gives protection and from whom no protection can be given, if you have any knowledge."

They will say: "Allah's." Say: "So how have you been bewitched."

The fact is that We have given them the truth and they are liars. (Surat al-Muminun: 84-90)

A person who reflects, grasps the secrets of Allah's creation, the truth of the life of this world, the existence of Hell and Paradise, and the inner truth of matters. He obtains a deeper understanding of the importance of being a person with whom Allah is pleased, and so he lives by the religion as is its due, recognises Allah's attributes in everything he sees, and begins to think not according to what the majority of people demand but as Allah commands. As a result, he takes pleasure from beauty much more than others do, and does not suffer distress from baseless misapprehensions and worldly greed.

These are only a few of the beautiful things a person who thinks will gain in the world. The gain in the Hereafter of someone who always finds the truth by thinking, is the love, approval, mercy and the Paradise of Allah.

On the other hand, a day is near when those who today avoid seeing the truth by thinking will come to think, and moreover think deeply and meditate and see the truth clearly. Yet their thinking on that day will not be of any use to them but will make them suffer grief. Allah says in the Qur'an when these people will reflect:

When the Great Calamity comes: that Day man will remember what he has striven for and the Blazing Fire will be displayed for all who can see. (Surat an-Nazi‘at: 34-36)

Inviting people, who suppose that they can escape from their responsibilities by not thinking, to think so that they may reflect upon the end that will befall them and return to Allah's religion is an act of worship for believers. Yet, ultimately, as Allah states in the Qur’an:

… Anyone who will, may pay heed. (Surat al-Muddaththir: 55)

You have even disqualified yourself for not getting her name correctly

I support Jarus but disagree with Bilms. Please do not try to scare people from reading and we should be mindful of what we say. Reading the Translated version is not bad please.

@JJYOU

i would have tot their being christians would repulse you guys so much your john thomas wont rise. so you dont love your religion that much?

What is John Thomas?

Something lovely like what?

@Bawomolo

most Children rebel, shouldn't they come back to Allah if they are raised with strong Islamic principles.  Isn't it worrisome if Christianity prevails in most of these relationship??  It seems u are saying Christianity is the easy way out.  Is the "truth" too complex for the young ones?

Its not like that. its just that man makes house, woman makes homes. Man doesnt spend their times like women when it comes to rearing children. Wifes tends to be closer to children than men and as a result of this the christian wife would have upper hand in preachig her religion to the kids. It could go well for the husband if he is not the lazy one but the type that has both Islaic and Biblical knowledge.

I know of christian ladies that accepted Islam and never go to back to christianity. It all depends on the husband and the way he treats Christianity. Islam shouldnt be forced on her but should be allowed to see reasons why Islam is the truth. Study both religion together, ask her questions on her faith and allow her to do same too. Before you know it, she would accept it but most people treat christian wives as if they are forcing them to accept Islam.

There are different ways, methods of bringing people to Islam.

Peace

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I pity jaysus because his message has been totally screwed up by christians of today.He must be gnashing his teeth in rage wherever he is now.What poor chap!

@Dayokanu


You don miss road. She doesnt celebrate valentino

@Riskie

Dont forget to share me something as Baba oko and Baba iyawo

@Dayokanu

Mukinatu or is your own name Muqnat?

Who would join us together na. I dey wait oh

I am suspecting your key baod is suffering from em em . It wanted to type Deepzone/Lady and not Hajia Mukinah Javalove .

You can even see that you no sabi her name but Javalove sabi am well well. So stop pursuing a mirage. Mukinah don get crown

@Lady

Answer my questions first, what does it mean to be laid in the belly of the earth? Why are people put in the earth?

You didnt ask me that question but would respond you. Was Jesus laid in the belly of the earth? Be honest to yoursel.

Also, your friend was trying to interpret a passage in the Bible, and the passage mentioned the belly of the earth, and I am asking about the belly of the earth, don't change focus.

You read my post, was Jesus laid in the belly of the earth? When you provide honest answer, we would go into the bible to see if he wa really laid therein.

Sure.

Luke 1:35
35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God

That was the angel announcing to Mary that she will give birth to the Son of God, a son shares the nature of his Father.
His Father being God, he shares the divine nature of his Father.

You made me laugh here .
This is your statement that I responded to:

Because his Spirit is from the divine nature of God's. He shares the same divine nature as the Father, God.

But you went to give me this:

Luke 1:35
35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God

Mind you, Jesus ought to be called Son of Holy Spirit because it was the holy spirit that overshadowed her.

That was the angel announcing to Mary that she will give birth to the Son of God, a son shares the nature of his Father.
His Father being God, he shares the divine nature of his Father.

Read here

The angel said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be holy; he will be called Son of God. And now, your relative Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son; and this is the sixth month for her who was said to be barren.

How does the above shares his divinity? The verse referred him to as son and not GOD. Read your book very well Madam.

Sheesh for someone who attempts to interpret the Bible you certainly don't know much about it.
Genesis 1:27
27 And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.

The very first marriage, was between one man and one woman, not one man and several women and the man given a choice. They were to multiply, meaning to have intercourse and that happens in marriage.

Genesis 2:24
24 Wherefore a man shall leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they shall be two in one flesh.

Here we see that the two shall become one flesh, you cannot have one flesh with one, and another flesh with another. If God wanted for man Adam to have a choice in four wives, he would have provided for that. He would have made 4 women (Eves) and he wouldn't have created them, man and woman, he would have created them man and women to be chosen from.

matt 19: 4 Who answering, said to them: Have ye not read, that he who made man from the beginning, Made them male and female? And he said: 5 For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh.

6 Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.

Once again you can't be one with too four women, that is why fornication is wrong, sex is a gift to be shared with two people, and those two alone, for life.

So there, it is in the way God created us. It is against natural law, plain and simple.

I laugh at your quote above. There is nowhere in all I read up that says you must not marry more than one wife. What do you have to say to some personalities in the bible that had more than one wife?

The above verses didnt say you must marry only one wife or not more than one. I am willing to read the verses from you.

Jesus is Man

He is born of a woman, Mary, you wouldn't deny that.

Sure.

Jesus is God

He refers to himself as God.

Na lie

Matt 5:221-22
21 You have heard that it was said to them of old: Thou shalt not kill. And whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment. 22 But I say to you, that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgment. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou Fool, shall be in danger of hell fire

Jesus equates himself to God "You heard it say, but I say to you" with those words Jesus equates himself with God as he is giving a commandment in place of those regarded as God's law by the Jews. He is replacing the law. He is God.

Madam, It is quite funny the way you interprete your bible. So you claimed that he equates himself to God because of the above statement? Now based on the above, do we say Paul is also God because I have instances where and some prophets did same? Madam, they were told same thing earlier but he reminded them again since and that doesnt make him anyway God. Get your bible knowledge straight aunty

There are more verses of Jesus giving the commandments.

Ok.

Matt 9:2
2 And behold they brought to him one sick of the palsy lying in a bed. And Jesus, seeing their faith, said to the man sick of the palsy: Be of good heart, son, thy sins are forgiven thee

Jesus forgives sins, only God has the power to forgive sins.

Na wa o. Now remember a story of a woman that told Jesus to guarantee his son paradise and why couldnt he do that? Didnt you read where he said that he couldnt do anything by himself, he judge as he hear?

Matt 12:8
8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath
Jesus says he is Lord of the sabbath, he is the Lord of God's law, that means he is God.

So how does that makes him God? He called himself son of man and you still called him God. Why did he say God is greater than him, begged and prayed to him to save him?

Matt 26:
63 But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest said to him: I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us if thou be the Christ the Son of God. 64 Jesus saith to him: Thou hast said it. Nevertheless I say to you, hereafter you shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of the power of God, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 65 Then the high priests rent his garments, saying: He hath blasphemed; what further need have we of witnesses? Behold, now you have heard the blasphemy:

Jesus acknowledges that he is the Son of God, and therefore of the nature of God, and that's why they want to kill him. Infact that's the reason why he died, if he didn't claim to be the Son of God, the Jews wouldn't have been threatened, and they wouldn't have sought his death. He had to have claimed to be the Son of God, and equated himself with God.

Firstly, he said he would sit at the right hand side of God and NOT on GOD'S SEAT. Madam, he didnt die on the cross nor was he crucified.

ok that's enough.

Your verses didnt support his deity.

It was never said that he would spend three nights in death, he was to resurrect on the third day
Do not confuse it.

Madam, could you remember what Jesus said? As jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the whale, so shall the son of man be in the belly of the earth.

Could still further do the 3 days calculation for me? Are you debunking Jesus emboldened statement above?

Jonah also did not spend a complete three days and three nights as we would count it, but he would spendit as the hebrew counted their days and nights, from evening to evening.

Care to show me when Jonah was swallowed when he was vomited?
Could you give me the hebrew calculation for Jesus as said by him, 'as jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the whale, so shall the son of man be 3[b] days and 3 nights in the belly of the earth[/b]?

Ws he really in the belly of the earth? Let me know and we go into the full story.

Thanks

@Javalove

u know ae many battle i don fight before i cud get mukina? i[b] fight babs [/b] . . i fight Mustay and some other contenders before she eventually tell me YES.

I no drag Muki with you o but you dragged Bibs with me. Hey all of you should harrassing my Javalove, he is the proud husband to be of Hajia Mukinah

@Lady

Actually, Jesus said he will be in the belly of the earth, how does one enter the earth if they are not put there? When is someone put into the belly of the earth?

I really want an answer to this question.

Was Jesus put into the belly of the whale or was he put into the belly of the earth? Why is someone put into the earth?

Was he laid in the belly of the earth on in tomb?

Because his Spirit is from the divine nature of God's. He shares the same divine nature as the Father, God.

Care to share the verses supporting that?

Why isn't you foundation that of the Christians? Well because Muhammad encountered the heretics at that time. The gospels were not foregin to muhammad and as he rightfully admits his wife's uncle or whatever relation that was, was a christian, but he was a heretic. Muhammad was surrounded by syrians and so he heard the gospel in syriac which sounds very much like arabic and he confused the sayings.
He also couldn't accept several teachings of Christ because it wasn't compatible with his cultrue and views, for example the marrying of four wives, that was the norm in the arabic culture, and muhammad couldn't let that go, also with the diet that he had, he also couldn't let that go. He still hasn't explained why God didn't give Adam the choice of marrying 4 wives if he intended it to be that way.

Do you care to furnish where God said that you should not marry more than one wife in the bible?

Did you not read that Jesus is fully man and fully God?

Proof from your bible please.

Because his Spirit is from the divine nature of God's. He shares the same divine nature as the Father, God.

Care to support same with verses from your book?

Ok this is just utter RUBBISH. You just gave them collateral to ridicule Christians. You know and I know and everyone knows that this isn't what that verse tells us. You can't just make up stuff to suit you. Just because the muslims do that doesn't mean you have to.

Can you do the 3 days and 3 nights calculation for me?
When was he laid?
When did he resurrect?

Thanks

@David

You can cry tears of blood till tomorow . . . Jesus Christ IS LORD! If it hurts you remove ur eyes . . . i suppose sharia has a provision for that.

David, the correct guy

I dont wish to "discuss" Him with a bond slave of allah . . . what rights has a slave to the gates of his master? That would be like casting pearls before swine.

Ok sir

Just like mohammad died like a common begger?

Facts please?

What did Paul say with regards to being a SLAVE?

Ten Useless Matters
Let’s take note of the following ten (10) useless matters in order to save our soul:

1. Knowledge that is not acted on

2. The deed that has neither sincerity nor is based on following the righteous examples of others

3. Money that is hoarded, as the owner neither enjoys it during this life nor obtains any reward for it in the Hereafter

4. The heart that is empty of love and longing for Allah, and of seeking closeness to Him

5. A body that does not obey and serve Allah

6. Loving Allah without following His orders or seeking His pleasure

7. Time that is not spent in expiating sins or seizing opportunities to do good

8. A mind that thinks about useless matters

9. Serving those who do not bring you close to Allah, nor benefit you in your life

10. Hoping and fearing whoever is under the authority of Allah and in His hand; while he cannot bring any benefit or harm to himself, nor death, nor life; nor can he resurrect himself.

However the greater of these matters are wasting the heart and wasting time. Wasting the heart is done by preferring this worldly life over the Hereafter, and wasting time is done by having incessant hope. Destruction occurs by following one’s desires and having incessant hope, while all goodness is found in following the right path and preparing oneself to meet Allah.


How strange it is that when a servant of Allah has a [worldly] problem, he seeks help of Allah, but he never asks Allah to cure his heart before it dies of ignorance, neglect, fulfilling one’s desires and being involved in innovations. Indeed, when the heart dies, he will never feel the significance or impact of his sins.

Jesus Christ is God Almighty

What made him your God?

oxymoron . . .
A slave is a slave . . . no sugar coating it with[b] "blessings"[/b].

David no go kill person with laugh o

@Davidylan

I rebuke that in Jesus name.
Riskie is coming into the light of God's grace and mercy . . . no longer will she be called a slave but a daughter of the Most High.

Daughter of God or Jesus?
What light?
Did you read what Paul said with regards to eing slaves in the book of romans?

@Davidylan

Solomon, David, Job and co were simply human like you and me . . . there was no prophecy or promise that they would not die like mere mortals in the bible. Christ was and is different . . . He is God coming down in human form. He came to die, be resurrected and be resurrected to heaven which is EXACTLY what happened . . .

Ore mi, the issue of his crucifixion and resurrection is a hoax in which you have not been able to attend to in another thread. Did you say your GOD DIE?
Who did your God shouted to on the cross for forsaken him?
Could you please share with me, what made him your God?

what happened to the clueless lying bandit called Mohammad? why could not allah save him from death by poisoning? And why cant mohammad come on the last day? why are muslims also hopelessly waiting for Jesus Christ? To send you all to fierce judgement?

Do you want to discuss him, then please create a thread and table your facts and Babs would surely respond.

Olodo ni e. Did you read from Muslims that Jesus would judge? He would come and die like others, yeye boy.

@Davidylan

Lets just for a moment assume Christ did not die . . . is that not a shame that poor ol' mohammad died and rots in the grave while Christ Jesus, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah rose to heaven without seeing death? Powerless allah.

Let us do away with mischief for a while. Is Jesus the only one that rose to heaven without seeing death? Why are you crying over Muhammad's death? What of Soloon, David, Job, Abraham, Noah etc, are they still alive?

OLODO

@Lagosboy

there re only 2 sistas here Riskie and Mukinah and they are both now married sorry u are late!!

Who did you marry Mukina to? I want to know if the husband is not different from the one I already know.


@Dafidi

see these two clowns . . . riskie and me don hook up for background since. Continue entertaining urselves.

So you are prepared to be Alhaji DAUD now . Very much interested in Muslim angels huh

@Davidylan

Jesus Christ is Lord of Heaven and Earth . . . your idol is powerless before Him . . . Christ died and rose again - mohammad rots in the grave. Christ will return again . . . Mohammad only waits for fearsome judgement. Christ dwells in us as the Holy Ghost, allah is nothing but an abstract claim who needs to be defended by his slaves . . .

I raised a thread purposely for you but you never answered the questios because they seemed too hard for you.

Now with regards to your quote up, can you do the 3 days and 3 nights calculation of Jesus for me?
the time he died
The day he resurrected? I asked you in another but you ran away.

OLODO Yeye boy