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 Islam › Re: Muslims: What Did You Learn In Islam Recently? by babs787(m): 7:49pm On Jan 23, 2009 |
The Muslim Ummah: Looking on the Bright Side In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger. [list] [li][/li] [li][/li] [/list][/b] The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: [b]"Nations are about to scheme against you in the same way as greedy eaters vie with one another on the dining-table.' One of the companions (may Allah be pleased with them all) asked: 'O Messenger of Allah! Will that relate to being few in numbers?' The Prophet said: 'No, but your huge number will be of little effectiveness, and (Allah) will cast Al-Wahan in your hearts.' They said: O Messenger of Allah, what does Al-Wahan mean? He said, 'Your hearts are strongly attached to life luxuries and you feel strong aversion to death." (Reported by Ahmad and Abu-Dawud) The previous hadith is considered one of the miracles with which the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was aided. The hadith refers to what will happen by the end of this world. In other words, it shows the extent of the moral decay that will affect the Muslim Ummah, and will encourage its enemies to haunt it, especially after neglecting Allah’s Commands and ignoring His Prophet’s teachings The miracles that Allah Almighty has granted His Prophets (peace and blessings be upon them all) to help in delivering their messages are not only rules and regulations from which the Muslim Ummah can seek guidance regarding what is lawful and what is prohibited. Rather, they serve as a means of encouraging the Muslim to bear the sufferings and tribulations of life with patience and perseverance, keeping in mind that Allah will never forsake him. The words of the hadith show that the state of weakness facing the Muslim Ummah nowadays is transitory. Unfortunately, the Muslim Ummah’s hands are tied, finding themselves handicapped to put an end to the brutal massacres and mass killing of Muslims in many places of the world, in addition to gross violation of Muslim human rights. The main reason behind all this can easily be ascribed to forsaking the Islamic umbrella, which encompasses economy, mass media and education, as well as politics. Every member of Muslim Ummah has a share in this responsibility; it is a collective one. We are together in the same boat and we have to start rowing before it is too late. Stressing the fact that, despite the sorry state of affairs of Muslim Ummah now, there is a glimmer of hope lying in the future, we would like to cite for you the following fatwa issued by the eminent Muslim scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi: Some scholars claim that the Doom is approaching and that the darkness looms large and there are troubles on the horizon. Actually, such premonitions bring benefits to none and make things get worse. This leads to the belief that there is no hope for a change or reform and that the coming days carry nothing but bad events. This is, in fact, a very wrong way of thinking and it is plainly a pessimistic approach to life. Muslims are to stick their mind to many glad tidings of the coming victory of Islam, and they should have faith in Allah that the coming days will be more bright and that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Thus, it is necessary for Muslims to derive from the following glad tidings glimpse of light to fill their hearts with and let despair vanish and fade away. Here are some of the glad tidings mentioned in the Qur’an: 1. Almighty Allah says: (He it is who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse. ) (At-Tawbah 9: 33) 2. Almighty Allah also says: (Fain would they put out the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light however much the disbelievers are averse. ) (As-Saff 61:  In these verses, Almighty Allah makes it clear that at the end sweeping victory and triumph will be for Islam and Allah’s light will cover all corners of the globe. The Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is also a record of many hadiths that give glad tidings of the coming victory of Islam. Here, we would like to cite some of these hadiths: 1. In his Sahih, Imam Muslim recorded that Thawban quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying: “Almighty Allah has gathered the earth for me so that I could see all its corners. My nation will rule over all that which Almighty Allah has gathered for me.” 2. Ibn Hibban quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying: “This matter (i.e., Islam) will spread to cover all area where there is night and day. Allah will never leave a house in a rural area or in urban community without its people being Muslims. Honor is for those who embrace it (i.e., Islam) while disbelievers are doomed to disgrace and humiliation.” This hadith, along with many others, give us glad tidings that the patch of the Muslim state will expand to cover the whole earth and that the strength of this state will grow and become obvious to all. This also denotes good news for the long-cherished hope of revival of Muslims unity and rebirth of Islamic Caliphate. Also, there are many other glad tidings in the reality of being a Muslim, for any wise man knows that no falsehood is to remain forever. Life has its ups and downs and days have their own vicissitudes. After hardship comes ease and every cloud has a silver lining. The bitter reality of the Muslim nation will come to an end, and tomorrow will be definitely better than today. The emergence of the Islamic awakening has breathed in the Muslim nation a sense of confidence and hope in the future. Viewing this awakening as a threat, the enemies of Islam have tried their utmost to suppress it. However, it is Allah’s will that the Muslim awakening will endure all tribulations without being affected. Such movement is worthy of leading the Muslim nation to utter victory once there are leaders who are rightly guided by Almighty Allah and filled with wisdom. We the MUSLIM plea to Allah Almighty to guide the Muslim Ummah back to the right track. This is the only way we can find a place in the modern world where non-Islamic systems impose distorted ideologies in the name of civilization.  |
| Islam › Re: What Qur'an Says About Jesus by babs787(m): 7:36pm On Jan 23, 2009 |
@David Ndo, who dey beat you? I only responded to your quote here  Quite obvious all of these so-called "stories" about Jesus in the quran were engineered there to repudiate His divinity.I will not even go into the Quran but would use your book and you would tell me who he prayed to, shouted to, cried to, to save him, said he is greater than him sent him etc ALL FROM YOUR BIBLE. |
| Islam › Re: The Truth About Jesus by babs787(m): 7:20pm On Jan 23, 2009 |
AIO, Kola Oloye Please in what the spirit mentioned by Jesus happened to be holy spirit? When you do that, we would analyse Jesus statement with regards to the comforter. I have been asking christians a question and they have not been able to provide answer to that simple question. |
| Islam › Re: What Qur'an Says About Jesus by babs787(m): 7:15pm On Jan 23, 2009 |
@David You can only fool yourself here. I have debated this divinity of Jesus with some of your folk and they have not been able support their alleged claim and if you think you could suport his divinity fro your book, Babs is here to discuss with you using your book and would see that he never claimed to be God ad made statements showing that he was inferior to God. |
| Islam › Re: Why The High Rate Of Conversion To Christianity? by babs787(m): 8:03pm On Jan 22, 2009 |
She is doing her "ghusl duhul Islam!"Amin  |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: [mpac] Re: The Gaza-israel Crisis- The Guardian Editorial 14/01/09 by babs787(op): 8:01pm On Jan 22, 2009 |
@Morpheus Even if you read the truth or it stared you in the face point blank.You may provide the truth if you have it. I doubt if you ever do. Your brainwashed mind would still interpret it as western anti muslim,anti islamic propaganda.I am not being spoon feed or dillusioned just like you by the west. When you and your friends are ready in the like of 4play and David, we would go down history. Oh, I remember that you are atheist, using books would seem meaningless to you but if you are brave enough, we could dig our nose into the history. Put me on course and I would follow you. Mr intelligent So what's the use.To discern the truth from falsehood. So be bold to teach as I really want to learn from you. |
| Islam › Re: Let's Pray For Our Brothers And Sisters In Palestine. by babs787(m): 7:59pm On Jan 21, 2009 |
@David I posted the entire chapter from Zachariah in red here . . . go look it up.You have been making noise with this Zachariah and would go into it when I am less busy and questions would be asked as well. Till then. stay glued |
| Islam › Re: Let's Pray For Our Brothers And Sisters In Palestine. by babs787(m): 7:57pm On Jan 21, 2009 |
Assallam Alykum waramatullahi wabarakatu. Authu bi lahi an akuna mina Jalihin. All praise belong to Allah the lord of the world, the beneficent and the merciful, it is you alone we worship and from you alone we ask for help. What are the losses and the gains of Gaza ’s war? Although, there is nothing good about blood shedding, Islam as a religion goes against it except if there is need. Most of the war that took place during the life of the holy prophet (S.A.W) was based on self defense. Some of our brothers may be thinking whether the Supreme Being has forsake Muslims in all war turn countries of the world, the answer is no. There was an instance during the life of our beloved prophet (S.A.W) when the Non-believer went to Rome, the king of Rome then asked them about the War that the prophet took part whether he lost all or won all and the replied from the Kafir was that he lost some and he won some then the king replied yes the prophets losses some war and won some. Let me start with the lost of Muslim community in Gaza ü Life were lost ü Properties worth Two Billions Dollars were lost ü There is need to fumigate the affected area to prevent diseases outbreak e.t.c ü The fear of unknown enemy ü People were maimed The gains of Muslim community from Gaza When the prophet of Islam lost the battle of Hud people thought that would silent and reduced the number of people that join Islam but it never was. They came about the treaty of hudabiyah, and Muslims within that period of the truce was able to propagate Islam and Islam became the household religion. Now, the reason why Hamas continue to fire rocket to Israel was that people are dying of hunger due to blockades by Israeli troops, there economy were in shamble but after the cease fire the entire world that refused to listen to there complain before the War are now saying that Israel should allow things to move in and out of Gaza, hence the gain ü The dead are martyrs ü The War shows the entire world that the Israeli are the terrorist; imagine white phosphorous was used during the war. I watched an interview that involved the Palestine , One Betty from UK and an Israeli, what interested me most was the role Betty played, she said who are the victim now, is it Israel or Palestine ? She concluded it by saying that Israeli should stop their assault on Palestine . ü The world over has discovered that the military solution is not the best ü The Arabs now knows that they are having problems and there is need for them to sit around the table and resolve their differences otherwise their generation yet unborn will surfer, may be with this we may be able to get Amir-ul-Mumin that will brought about unity that we have been chanting for in Islam. ü The UN from their end said that the boarder blockade should stop ü Israel fails to achieve their aim of destroying the Hamas rocket ü Bolivia who is not a Muslim country broke their ties with Israeli because of the war. Etc ü The War made people (Muslims and non-Muslims) knows much about the history of that region. They now know about how Israeli state was created on another people soil in 1947 in order to prevent stable environment within that region. The lessons of Gaza are: Ø There is need for all Muslims to be their brothers’ keeper. The Prophet (S.A.W) of Islam was reported to have said in one of his Hadith that a time shall come when the Muslim community will suffer a lot of persecution and HIS companion asked are we going to be outnumbered by non-believers and the holy Prophet (S.A.W) says no but the Muslim at that point in time will be afraid of death and the love of worldly things will be more of important to them than their hereafter. Ø We were encourage to pray for all suffering Muslims where ever we are, the Prophet (S.A.W) was also reported to have said that He is not a Muslim, who ever fail to pray daily for entire Muslim Umah. What was your role during the war? Ø Some products were listed by our Muslims brother that we should avoid but did you do that? If not you are helping the Kafir with the killing of your brothers except if you did not know. Ø When shall we have unity in Islam, when will the Amir-ul-Mumin such as Umar bin Katab, Abu bakir, Aliy bin Talib, Uthman etc. We are suffering because we lack leader(s) who suppose to be in charge of Muslim affairs all over the world. May Allah grant those who lost their life Aljannat Firdausi, may He guide Muslims to the right path. May Almighty Allah be with living Muslims, the sick, the traveler and the dead without exempting all of us in this group? Allahu Allam. Asa min fadhilu robi (This is a favour from thy Lord) Ma-assallam |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: [mpac] Re: The Gaza-israel Crisis- The Guardian Editorial 14/01/09 by babs787(op): 7:46pm On Jan 21, 2009 |
@David Babs lets have your arguments piece by piece. Who has time to read a volume?You would never have time when your lies have been refuted and exposed. I'm too lazy to read a hotchpotch of nonsensical statements.You would always be lazy to read the truth but very quick at replying the posts of your fellow supporting you. You did read initial letter, responded but your response was been given detailed analysis. Prior to 1967 was there peace in the middle east? What prompted the war then?Could you take me down history and we would see if you, Morpheus, 4play would be able to discuss honestly. So teach me bros and let me learn from you. |
| Islam › Re: Polygamy by babs787(m): 7:40pm On Jan 21, 2009 |
Can polygamy be a better solution in some cases? Individual cases: 1. a man dicovers that his wife is barren, and who at the same time instinctively aspires to have children and heirs In a situation like this, the man would either have to : a suffer the deprivation of fatherhood for life b. divorce his barren wife and get married to another woman who is not barren. In many cases, neither solution can be considered as the best alternative. Polygamy would have the advantage of preserving the marital relationship without depriving the man of fathering children of his own. 2. A man whose wife becomes chronically ill would have one of several possible alternatives: a. he may suppress his instinctive sexual needs for the rest of his life b. he may divorce his sick wife at the time when she needs his compassion most, and get married to another woman, thus legally satisfying his instinctive needs. c. or he could compromise by keeping illicit sex partners. The first solution is against human nature. Islam recognizes sex and sexual needs and provides for legitimate means for their satisfaction. The second solution is clearly less compassionate, especially where there is love between the two parties. Furthermore divorce is described by Prophet Muhammad (saw) as the 'permitted thing which Allah hated most'. The last solution is plainly against the Islamic teachings which forbid illicit sexual relations in any form. To sum up, Islam being against immorality and against divorce unless no better solution is available, provides for a better alternative which is consistent with human nature and with the preservation of pure and legitimate sex relationships. In a situation like this, it is doubtful that any solution would be better than polygamy, which is, after all an optional solution. Social cases: 1. anthropologists tell us that among various tribes and societies, polygamy is a social and economic necessity. In some very poor arears, the infant mortality is vert hugh. children on the other hand, are a source of additional labour for thr earning of the family. To have more children under such situations would require the practice of polygamy. It is by this reason christian missionaries in some African regions justified their permission to local people to practice polygamy without beng excommunicated from the church. One researcher has even found through his studies that womwn in such socities not only accept polygamy but some of them even prefer this. 2. Aside from cases where women outnumber men, devastating wars, in the past and at present have taken their toll mainly among men. The result is not simply more women who cannot find husbands, but even more widows who may aspire to a respectable family life. In such a siatuation, if polygamy is bad, the limitation on polygamy is far worse. Both unmarried women and widows are human beings. Unless their insticntive needs are legitimately satisfied, the temptation is great for corruption and immorality. But aside from the moral question these women are also exploited. They are used as tools for men's pleasure, yet have no guarantees, no rights or security, financial or emotional. Should they become pregnant, it is their burden alone. But even if such women are ready to pay the price for this personality, society also suffers seriously from such situations. The increasing number of illegitimate children born today under conditions such as these provides a potential base for tomorrow's ma-adjusted people and even criminals. Furthermore, it is inhuman, humiliating for those children to grow up without knowing who their fathers are and without enjoying a clean and normal family life. |
| Islam › Re: Polygamy by babs787(m): 7:38pm On Jan 21, 2009 |
OP[b] why is polygamy allowed in Islam?[/b] Firstly, it must be made clear that Islam did not introduce Polygamy in the 7th century A.C. It was a common practice in the ancient world. secondly polygamy wa the practice of the earlier prophets such as Abraham, David and Solomon as the bible testifies. The verse which allows polygamy was revealed after the battle of Uhud in which many muslims were killed, leaving widows and orphans for whom due care was incumbent upon the Muslim survivors. Quran 4 v 3; if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, three or four but if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly (with them) then (marry) only one, from this verse a number of facts are evident: 1. That polygamy is neither mandatory nor encouraged but merely permitted. 2. that the permission to practise polygamy is not associated with mere satisfaction of pasion. It is rather associated with compassion toward widows and orphans, a matter that is conformed by the atmosphere in which the verse was revealed. 3. that even in such a situation, the permission is far more restricted than the normal practise which existed among the Arabs and other people at that time when many married as many as ten or more wives. 4. that dealing justly with one's wives is an obligation. This applies to housing, food, clothing, kind treatment etc for which the husband is fully responsible. If one is not sure of being able to deal justly with tme, Allah says 'then marry only one. This verse when combined with another verse in the same chapter, shows some discouragement of such plural marriages. The other verse plainly states' you are never able to be fair and just as between women even it if is your ardent desire (Quran 4 v 129). The requirement of justice rules out the fantasy that man can own as many as he pleases. It also rules out the concept of secondary wife for all wives have exactly the same status and areentitled to identical rights and claims over their husband. It also implies according to the Islamic Law, that should the husband fail to produce enough support for any of his wives, she can go to court ask for a divorce. 5. the verse says marry not kidnap, buy or seduce. Marriage in Islam is a civil contract which is not valid unless both contracting parties consent to it. Thus no wife can be forced or given to a husband who is already married. It is thus a free choice of both parties. As to the first wife: a. she may be barren or ill and see in polygamy a better solution b. she may divorce her husband if he marries a second wife provided that the marriage contract gives her the right of unilateral divorce. c. she can go to court and ask for a divorce if there is evidence of mistreatment or injustice inflicted upon her. But if polYgamy is discouraged and loaded with such constraints, could it have been better if the Quran simply forbade it/ To answer this question, we may have to raise another one: Can polygamy be a better solution in some cases? |
| Islam › Re: Why The High Rate Of Conversion To Christianity? by babs787(m): 7:22pm On Jan 21, 2009 |
Sosei !!!! Kachae magana gasikya. Insha Allah earthMama za ta shaiga Islam. Za ta aure Jarus Grin Grin Grin GrinTranslation sharp sharp |
| Islam › Re: Why The High Rate Of Conversion To Christianity? by babs787(m): 8:27pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
Its a confirmed fact that you create/post every 5 minutes. What have you been able to say to all the responses you have been served so far, all the biblical verses you have been taught etc? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet’s Letters To Christians by babs787(op): 8:21pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
-A Letter to Chosroes, Emperor of Persia "In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. From Muhammad, the Messenger of Allâh to Chosroes, king of Persia. Peace be upon him who follows true guidance, believes in Allâh and His Messenger and testifies that there is no god but Allâh Alone with no associate, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger. I invite you to accept the religion of Allâh. I am the Messenger of Allâh sent to all people in order that I may infuse fear of Allâh in every living person, and that the charge may be proved against those who reject the Truth. Accept Islam as your religion so that you may live in security, otherwise, you will be responsible for all the sins of the Magians." ‘Abdullah bin Hudhafa As-Sahmi was chosen to carry the letter. This envoy carried it to the king of Bahrain but we do not know as yet if the latter despatched to Chosroes by one of his men or chose ‘Abdullah himself. The proud monarch was enraged by the style of the letter as the name of the Prophet had been put above his own name. He tore the letter into shreds and forthwith dictated a command to his viceroy in Yemen to send a couple of troopers to arrest the Prophet and bring him to his presence. The governor, Bazan by name, immediately sent two men to Madinah for the purpose. As soon as the men reached Madinah, the Prophet was informed by a Divine Revelation that Pervez, the emperor of Persia, had been murdered by his son. The Prophet disclosed to them the news and they were stunned. He added asking them to tell their new monarch that Islam would prevail everywhere and outstrip the sovereignty of Chosroes himself. They hurried back to Bazan and communicated to him what they heard. Meanwhile, Sherweh, the new monarch sent a letter to Bazan confirming the news and bidding him to stop any procedures as regards the Prophet till further notice. Bazan, together with the Persians in Yemen, went into the folds of Islam, and gladly signified his adhesion to the Prophet. [Fath Al-Bari 8/127,128] |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet’s Letters To Christians by babs787(op): 8:11pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
Hercules questions about the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) Abu Sufyan a leader of the tribe of Quraish and the arch enemy of the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was in Constantinople on a business trip, when the Prophet Mohammed's (pbuh) letter of invitation reached Hercules, the Byzantine emperor of Eastern Roman Empire. Hercules, at the time was in his court at Constantinople celebrating his victory over the Persians. Hercules read the letter through an interpreter and then asked the people in his court, to find out if there was someone in the city, who knew the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh). Abu Sufyan with his companions was brought into the court. Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: Abu Sufian ibn Harb informed me that Heraclius sent a messenger to him while he was accompanying a caravan from the Quraish. They were merchants doing business in the Levant (Syria, Palestine, Lebanon and Jordan), at the time when Allah’s Messenger had a truce with Abu Sufian and the unbelievers of the Quraish. So Abu Sufian and his companions went to Heraclius at Ilya’ (Jerusalem). Heraclius called them in the court and he had all the senior Roman dignitaries around him. He called for his translator who, translating Heraclius’ question, said to them, “Who amongst you is closely related to that man who claims to be a Prophet?” Abu Sufian replied, “I am the nearest relative to him (among the group).” Heraclius said, “Bring him close to me and make his companions stand behind him.” Abu Sufian added [to Ibn `Abbas], “Heraclius told his translator to tell my companions that he wanted to put some questions to me regarding that man (the Prophet) and that if I told a lie they (my companions) should contradict me. By Allah, had I not been afraid of my companions labeling me a liar, I would have lied against him (the Prophet).” [The dialogue then continued like this.] Heraclius: What is his family status among you? Abu Sufian: He belongs to a noble family among us. Heraclius: Has anyone else among you before him ever claimed the same (i.e., to be a Prophet)? Abu Sufian: No. Heraclius: Was anyone among his ancestors a king? Abu Sufian: No. Heraclius: Are the strong and powerful following him or the weak and poor? Abu Sufian: It is the weak and poor that are following him. Heraclius: Are his followers increasing or decreasing (day by day)? Abu Sufian: They are increasing. Heraclius: Does anyone among those who embrace his religion become displeased and leave the religion afterwards? Abu Sufian: No. Heraclius: Have you ever accused him of telling lies before his claim (to be a Prophet)? Abu Sufian: No. Heraclius: Does he ever betray or is he treacherous in his agreements? Abu Sufian: No, we are at truce with him but we do not know what he will do in it. (Abu Sufian said [to Ibn `Abbas], “I could not find an opportunity to say anything against him except that word.”) Heraclius: Have you ever had a fight with him? Abu Sufian: Yes. Heraclius: What was the outcome of your battles with him? Abu Sufian: The fighting between him and us was undecided and victory was shared between him and us by turns. Heraclius: What does he order you to do? Abu Sufian: He tells us to worship Allah alone and not to worship anything along with Him, and to renounce all that our ancestors had said. He orders us to pray, to speak the truth, to be chaste and to keep good relations with our kith and kin. Heraclius said to his translator to convey to him, [1] I asked you about his family and your reply was that he belongs to a noble family among you. In fact, all the Messengers come from noble families among their respective peoples. [2] I questioned you whether anyone else among you claimed such a thing, and your reply was no. If you had said yes, I would have thought that this person is copying the previous person’s saying. [3] I asked you whether anyone of his ancestors was a king. Your reply was no. If you had said yes, I would have thought that the man wants to take back his ancestral kingdom. [4] I further asked you whether he was ever accused of telling lies before he said what he said, and your reply was no. So I wonder how a person who does not tell a lie about others could ever tell a lie about Allah. [5] I then asked you whether the rich people follow him or the poor. You replied that it was the poor who followed him. In fact, the poor are always the followers of the Messengers. [6] I asked you whether his followers are increasing or decreasing. You replied that they were increasing. In fact, this is the way of true faith, till it is complete in all respects. [7] I asked you whether there was anyone who, after accepting his religion, became displeased with and abandoned his religion. Your reply was no. In fact, this is the sign of true faith, when its delight penetrates the depths of the hearts. [8] I asked you whether he had ever betrayed and your reply was no. Likewise, the Messengers never betray. [9] I asked you what he ordered you to do, and your reply was he ordered you to worship Allah, and not to worship anything along with Him and forbade you to worship idols and ordered you to pray, to speak the truth and to be chaste. If what you have said is true, he will very soon occupy this place underneath my feet now. I knew from the scriptures that he was going to come but I did not know that he would be from you. If I could reach him I would go immediately to meet him and if I were with him, I would certainly wash his feet. Heraclius then asked for the letter addressed by Allah’s Messenger to him. The letter was delivered by Dihya to the governor of Busra, who forwarded it to Heraclius. The letter said: “In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. This letter is from Muhammad, the Servant of Allah and His Messenger to Heraclius the ruler of Byzantines. Peace be upon him who follows the right path. I invite you with the call of Islam. Accept Islam and you will find peace. Allah will double your reward. But if you turn away then you will have upon you the sin of Arisiyyin (his subjects). ( O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.” If then they turn back, say ye: “Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah’s Will). ) (Aal `Imran 3: 64)” Abu Sufian said [to Ibn `Abbas], “When Heraclius finished his speech and read the letter, there arose commotion and many voices in the court, so we were asked to leave.” (Reported by al-Bukhari) It is possible that Heraclius accepted Islam secretly, but he was unable to declare it because he feared rebellion of his people. However, it is interesting that he tried to consider the Prophetic claim by considering: 1. The background of the Prophet 2. His motivations 3. His effects on his people 4. His character 5. His accomplishments 6. His message Considering all these aspects of his life, he became convinced that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was indeed the Messenger of Allah. |
| Islam › Re: Let's Pray For Our Brothers And Sisters In Palestine. by babs787(m): 7:49pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
@Davidylan I have no time to "serve" you anything.Are you afraid to support your lies and when you have the nerve to do that, Babs will go into your book of Zachariah and educate you on fraud you hid under. You sure know me when it comes to your book. I have exposed most of the prophecies you falsely attributed to Jesus and the book of Zachariah would not be difficult for you and I to explore. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: [mpac] Re: The Gaza-israel Crisis- The Guardian Editorial 14/01/09 by babs787(op): 7:46pm On Jan 18, 2009 |
@Davidylan I could read that you are being myopic in your response. Do you think you know Gaza than I do? You will never be able to. Let me go to your post that caught my attention. THE REAL FACTS!Let me read your facts 1. Israel unilaterally and COMPLETELY disengaged from Gaza but still maintains surveillance over the sea and air so as to prevent the movement of Iranian and Syrian weapons into Gaza for the sole purpose of destroying Israel. Even with the surveillance, HAMAS still managed to smuggle enough ktyusha, qassam and advanced long range Grad rockets enough to fire no less than 50 a day!!! What would happen if Israel went to sleep?You said that Israel maintains surveillance over the sea and air so as to prevent movement of Iranian and Syria weapons into Gaza and completely withdrew from Gaza. Israel maintains sovereignty while Palestinians live in a cage. They don’t get basic foodstuff, electricity,water, have no access to airspace etc and you claimed that Israel completely withdrew. David, are you ok at all? While Israeli planes drop pamphlets urging Palestinians to leave, the 1.5 million residents of the Gaza Strip, perhaps the most densely populated place on Earth, have no place to run, no place to hide. The strikes were targeted ar civilians and niot HAMAS perse. How could you be using sophisticated weaponry against locally made bombs? Israel is being supplied latest weaponry in order to wipe off palestinians while Palestinians movement is being restricted and were killed unjustly. I could show you some clips of brutal killings of innocents by Israel in the guise of possessing bombs in which they could find anything on them bt killed them unjustly. Israel and the Zionists are "in breach" of over 20 United Nations Resolutions. Thousands of indigenous Palestinians have been murdered in their own homeland; millions have been ethnically-cleansing by an "illegal occupying power"; Billions of US dollars have been used to finance the illegal occupation by Zionists of the land of Palestine; the Zionists have been supplied with the very latest and sophisticated (including nuclear) weaponry; since 1967, the Muslim Holy Site of Al-Aqsa has been violated by Zionists on more than 100 occasions; the so-called "Oslo Peace Agreement" in fact relates to only to the original occupants of Gaza and the West Bank - some 1M Palestinians! The WAR: "a MILITARY POWER suppressing (illegally) a CIVILIAN (UNARMED) POPULATION"! 2. Gaza is the largest and densest place on earth - it doesnt help if population growth isnt checked. Just ask the Chinese how they managed to keep their under control and stop whinning.Are you out of your senses? How could Israel be holding them back when they are being supplied latest weaponry day in day out? I bet you you are being spoon feed with the lies portrayed by the west? They are being access to amenities and there is no freedom for them, they are beng made prisoners in their own country and you called that COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL? Do you care if we open a thread and for GAZA only and look into the history of Gaza and the atrocities committed so far? Are you aware that the land was transferred to Zionist bodies by the British Government directly and not by Arabs? The territorial expansion took place, for the most part, before 15 May 1948: i.e., before the formal end of the British forces from Palestine, before the entry of Arab armies to protect Palestinian Arabs, and before the Arab-Israeli war? In 1948, 13 towns, 419 villages, and 99 tribal lands were depopulated in order to declare the State of Israel, occupying 78% of Palestine. 85% of Palestinian population "ethnically-cleansed"! The original 1947 recommendation to create a "Jewish State" in Palestine was approved, at the first vote, only by European, American and Australian States, for every Asian State, and every African State (with the exception of the Union of South Africa) voted against it, And that, when the vote was cast in plenary session on 29 November 1947, urgent American pressures (which a member of the Truman cabinet described as "bordering onto scandal"  had succeeded in prevailing only upon one African country (Liberia), both of which had special vulnerability to American pressures, to abandon their declared opposition?, And that, in other words, the "Jewish State" was planted at the point-of-intersection of Asia and Africa without the free approval of any Middle Eastern, Asian or African country except that Union of South Africa, itself ruled by an alien minority. Since the General Armistice Agreements were signed in 1949, Israel has maintained an aggressive policy of waging military attacks across the Armistice Demarcation Lines, repeatedly invading the territories of the neighbouring Arab States, And that Israel has been duly rebuked, censured, or condemned for these military attacks by the Security Council of the General Assembly of the United Nations on eleven occasions-five times by the Security Council and six times by the General Assembly. 3. Gaza is NOT a prison . . . it enjoys amenities that 90% of Nigerians who are supposedly free can only dream of most of it curtesy of the jews.What amenities do they enjoy David? Please spill it out for me. I want to learn from you 4. Gaza was much much worse during the 19 yrs Egypt was in power . . . where was MPAC and the rest of the moaning muslims?\Do you care to provide the facts? Let me hae the brutal killings during the time you claimed above. 5. Israel cannot stifle movement BETWEEN Gaza and the Westbank . . . both arent contigous!!! Besides FATAH members killed and tortured by HAMAS had to seek refuge in the same Israel that MPAC prefers to excoriate.You lacked Palestinian-Israeli conflict and would do you good if you could supply me your facts and not just relying on deluded stories from the west,. 1. [b]If Israel is a "lawless society" arabs wont be living there today and refusing to be a part of the negotiated palestinian state.[/[/b]quote] [/quote]Did you read my post or feigning ignorance? What concerns Israel with Palestinian election?Why the arrest?Good it seems where are getting somewhere, could you please educate me o who terrorist is and we look into it together going down memory lane and supporting same with facts?[quote]2. Hitler was also "elected" . . . it didnt stop the allied forces from going to kill him. A terrorist is still a terrorist. The REAL CORE of the conflict is the islamic injuncture to destroy the jews. [/quote]More than half of the Jews living in Palestine at that time were recent immigrants, who had come to Palestine in the preceding decades in order to escape persecution in Europe. And that less than 5% of the population of Palestine was native Palestinian Jews.Are you denying Israeli massacres or trying to play dumb? Which "homes"? The ones they left behind in southern syria or Jordan?Do the homes belong to Israel oga? [quote]Thanks, i will email you this response in person.[/quote] What do one expect from confused, spoon feed ignorant like you. You also do not need to go to MPAC, put your worries here and it would be addressed Stay blessed. |
| Islam › Re: Let's Pray For Our Brothers And Sisters In Palestine. by babs787(m): 5:15pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
@David While good men slept, arabs sold the world enough propaganda .Serve me part of the propangada and when through, we will go into the book of Zachariah to rea about the prophecy. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: [mpac] Re: The Gaza-israel Crisis- The Guardian Editorial 14/01/09 by babs787(op): 5:03pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
@Davidylan, Osis et all You may go to this link and read the atrocities committed so far www.mpac-ng. org |
| Islam › Re: Islamic Talk: by babs787(m): 5:00pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
Concept of Oppression "Contrary to the common misconception that Islam is an oppressive religion, Islam explicitly forbids all forms of oppression. Hisham Ibn Al-Hakim Ibn Hazim happened to pass by some people, the farmers of Syria , who had been made to stand in the sun. He asked: What is the matter with them? They said: They have been detained for (not paying) the Jizyah (tax on non-Muslims in an Islamic state). Thereupon, Hisham said: I testify that I heard Allah's Messenger, peace and blessings be upon him, saying: “Allah would torment those who torment people in the world.” (Reported by Muslim) Jabir Ibn `Abdullah, may Allah be pleased with him, quoted the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, as saying: “Be on your guard against committing oppression, for oppression is a darkness on the Day of Resurrection, ” ( Reported by Muslim) It is also reported that Prophet Dawud, peace and blessings be upon him, said: “O Allah, You know that I love You and I love all those who love You, but how may I endear You to Your servants? Allah said: Remind them of My Favors, My trials and My anger. O Dawud, any of My servants who helped an oppressed person and stood by him in his oppressed state, I’ll keep his feet firm on the Day when all feet will be shaken.” (Reported by Al-Bayhaqi, Al-Ahadith Al-Qudsiyyah) In another Hadith Qudsi, Allah Almighty says: “I shall take revenge on the oppressor in this life and the next. I shall take revenge on someone who saw a person being oppressed and was able to help him but did not help him.” (Reported by Tabarani) The ongoing tragedy in the Gaza Strip, one which violates all international laws and human standards and ethics, has not received due world attention that could end it. The inhuman and oppressive blockade that Israel has imposed on one million and a half citizens of Gaza makes life unbearable and turns the coastal strip into a large open-air prison. Muslim scholars call upon peoples of the world, Muslims and non-Muslims alike, to carry out their human responsibility and end this injustice. All people of conscience, including governments, are required to be up to their duties and intervene to stop this oppression and injustice. Deliberate injustice is more fatal to the one who imposed it, than the one on whom it is imposed. We muslims will not be silent in the face of this condemnable behavior I therefore plead with all Muslims to really look at this, not to look as spectators but to look as examiners to do something, because the Almighty Allah is going to ask all of us about what we have done. |
| Christianity Etc › The Prophet’s Letters To Christians by babs787(op): 4:53pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
Salaam and Greetings of Peace: Letter to the Monks of St. Catherine Monastery In 628 C.E. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) granted a Charter of Privileges to the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt.Sinai. It consisted of several clauses covering all aspects of human rights including such topics as the protection of Christians, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service, and the right to protection in war. An English translation of that document is presented here: “This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. “Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).” A Letter from the Prophet Muhammad To The Assyrian Christians “God has told me in a vision what to do, and I confirm His command by giving my solemn promise to keep this agreement. “To the followers of the Islam I say: Carry out my command, protect and help the Nazarene nation in this country of ours in their own land. Leave their places of worship in peace; help and assist their chief and their priests when in need of help, be it in the mountains, in the desert, on the sea, or at home. Leave all their possessions alone, be it houses or other property, do not destroy anything of their belongings, the followers of Islam shall not harm or molest any of this nation, because the Nazarenes are my subjects, pay tribute to me and will help the Muslims. No tribute, but what is agreed upon, shall be collected from them, their church buildings shall be left as they are, they shall not be altered, their priests shall be permitted to teach and worship in their own way-the Nazarenes have full liberty of worship in their churches and homes. None of their churches shall be torn down, or altered into a mosque, except by the consent and free will of the Nazarenes. If any one disobeys this command, the anger of God and His Prophet shall be upon him. “The tribute paid the Nazarenes shall be used to promote the teachings of Islam and shall be deposited at the treasury of Beth Almal. A common man shall pay one denar (piece of money), but the merchants and people who own mines of gold and silver and are rich shall pay twelve denars. Strangers and people who have no houses or other settled property shall not have taxes levied upon them. If a man inherits property he shall pay a settled sum to the Baitulmal treasury. The Christians are not obliged to make war on the enemies of Islam, but if an enemy attacks the Christians, the Muslims shall not deny their help, but give them horses and weapons, if they need them, and protect them from evils from outside and keep the peace with them. The Christians are not obliged to turn Muslims, until God’s will makes them believers. “The Muslims shall not force Christian women to accept Islam, but if they themselves wish to embrace it, the Muslims shall be kind to them. “If a Christian woman is married to a Muslim and does not want to embrace Islam, she has liberty to worship at her own church according to her own religious belief, and her husband must not treat her unkindly on account of her religion. If any one disobeys this command, he disobeys God and his prophet and will be guilty of a great offense. The above happened before the revelation. “If the Nazarenes wish to build a church, their Muslim neighbors shall help them. This shall be done, because the Christians have obeyed us and have come to us and pleaded for peace and mercy. “If there be among the Christians a great and learned man the Muslims shall honor him and not be envious of his greatness. “If any one is unjust and unkind to the Christians he will be guilty of disobeying the Prophet of God. “The Christians should not shelter an enemy of Islam or give him horse, weapon or any other help. If a Muslim is in need the Christian shall for three days and nights be his host and shelter him from his enemies. The Christians shall, furthermore, protect the Mohammedan women and children and not deliver them up to the enemy or expose them to view. If the Nazarenes fail to fulfil these conditions, they have forfeited their right to protection, and the agreement is null and void. “This document shall be entrusted to the Christian chief and head of their church for safe keeping.” The peace of God be over them all! This agreement is written by Moavijah Ben Sofian, according to the dictates of Muhammad, the Messenger of God, in the 4th year of the Hegira in the city of Medina. Al Qur`an says: “And abuse not those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest exceeding the limits, they abuse Allah through ignorance. Thus to every people have We made their deeds fair-seeming; then to their Lord is their return so he will inform them of what they did” (6:109) Al Qur’an says: “Those who restrain their anger and pardon men. And Allah loves the doer of good (to others)” (3: 133) |
| Foreign Affairs › [mpac] Re: The Gaza-israel Crisis- The Guardian Editorial 14/01/09 by babs787(op): 4:43pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
MPAC means Muslim Public Affairs Centre, MPAC, Nigeria 14 January, 2009. The Editor, GUARDIAN NEWSPAPERS LIMITED, P.M.B. 1217 Oshodi, Lagos, Nigeria. Dear Sir, Re: The Gaza-Israel Crisis- The Guardian Editorial 14/01/09 Once again, it is extremely disappointing to start the day with an editorial from a responsible newspaper such as the Guardian that is unable to steer clear of bias. In your editorial of the 14 th of January 2009 titled The Gaza-Israel Crisis, you expressed an editorial position on the current war on Gaza that gives an unreliable account of the history of the conflict and the situation on ground. This particular editorial gives an objective reader of your newspaper the impression that you are simply no more capable of reporting neutrally on the situation and that your editorial choices on this particular conflict are not value-free. As a media organization that prides itself on being impartial and accurate, we demand of you to rise above personal views and follow basic principles of balance and fairness in your editorials concerning the Israeli-Palestinian crisis. On 1st January 2009, I wrote a letter to call your attention to an emerging pattern of docile reporting and editorializing in regards to the way you cover the Palestine-Israel conflict where you (still) consistently refer to Hamas as Islamist, even more absurdly you have gone further in this editorial to accuse 'Muslim youths in the Middle East'- who themselves are Semitic people- of anti-Semitic sentiments in angry reaction to ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza. What specific events were you referring to when you make such assertion? Are you aware that many Jewish people (if these are the only people to whom you restrict the meaning of Semitic people), inside and outside of Israel, are vocal and angry opponents of the inhuman policies of the Zionist state of Israel in the occupied territories? Jews are also prominent in an organization called Deir Yassin Remembered, which commemorates the massacre of Arab Palestinians by Jewish militiamen outside Jerusalem in 1948. Are these honest conscientious objectors equally anti-Semitic or self-hating? In your wrong assertion of anti-Semitic sentiments as it is in the way you drivel on with 'Islamist' (the same way "Mohammedans" was incorrectly and so frequently used in the early 20th Century), history is not being taken seriously. Your current position, which seems to be reinforced by the language and historical account of your editorial writer, undermines the trust that we for our part placed in your commitment to be accurate, balanced and candid in your editorial policies. It is common knowledge that Israel hugely benefits from a dominant press that does not call it Zionist, a media that does not report on the extremism and brutality of Israeli settlers living in scattered colonies in the occupied territories, it does not report the figure of pregnant women that have had to die giving birth at illegal checkpoints all over caged Gaza, but these are the exact reason why many people in those countries are now turning to the alternative media and the internet for their information. They have come to realize finally that all the corporate media is now good for is movie listings, comics and lame sitcoms best watched as a form of anesthetic. Given this situation, it makes me wonder where your editorial writer got his information from- I mean you can't blame AP or Reuters for this! After all, every year , the United Nations General Assembly votes on a resolution entitled "Peaceful Settlement of the Palestine Question." And every year the vote is the same: it's the whole world on one side; Israel, the United States and some South Sea atolls and Australia on the other side. So, it is not only Hamas, an organization that was only founded in 1987 as a result of Israeli occupation, that 'regards Israel as an occupier forcefully occupying historic Palestine' as your editorial alleges, the world does. The vote this past year was 164-to-7. Every year since 1989-in 1989, the vote was 151-to-3, the whole world on one side, the United States, Israel and the island state of Dominica on the other side. The record shows for the past twenty or more years, the entire international community has sought to settle the conflict in the June 1967 border with a just resolution of the refugee question. Do all 164 nations of the United Nations consider Palestine an 'Islamic land' when they have so consistently voted in this pattern? And it is the exclusive right of the Palestinians to elect their leaders, after all Israel too enjoy this right and elect extremist Zionist into power. Guardian is a reputable newspaper and must not, through its editorial, commit itself to recycling propaganda from foreign tabloid press and other discredited sources. One final correction, on paragraph 6 of the editorial, you stated: When Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005, the territory came under the control of the Palestinian Authority, as was required. The facts: - Israel never disengaged from Gaza; it only redeployed to new positions; it re-enters Gaza at will; controls its airspace and coastline; it stifles movement within and between Gaza and the West Bank. During the period, Gaza was the largest and densest open-air prison in the world. - In 2006 when Hamas won a free and fair election to govern the territories, Israel, behaving as a lawless society it is, went ahead to arrest most of the elected parliamentarians- most of who are still in detention. At the core of the conflict is the urgent need to address the injustice being suffered by the Palestinians starting with the deliberate ethnic cleansing of Palestinian population in 1947/48, without which the Jewish state could not have been Jewish? Up till the time when the founding fathers of Israel perpetrated this crime, ethnic Arab and Jews were living peacefully together. Israel has no intention of allowing a viable, sovereign Palestinian state on its borders and it is using all means to achieve this end. It had no intention of allowing it in 1948 when it grabbed 24 per cent more land than what it was allotted legally, if unfairly, by UN Resolution 181. It had no intention of allowing it throughout the massacres and ploys of the 1950s. Even now Israel disallows the surviving victims of its crimes the basic human right to return to their homes, for no other reason than the fact that they are not Jewish. Disu Kamor Director of Media & Communications Muslim Public Affairs Centre, MPAC, Nigeria e-mail: kamor.disu@mpac- ng.org website: www.mpac-ng. org |
| Islam › Re: Son Of Hamas Leader Turns To Christ by babs787(m): 4:32pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
watch the clips,the guy became a Chrtistian in Palestine.Why not find out why your people (Igbo) are accepting Islam before coming to the west.Nonsense What do you epect the guy to do when he happened to be the target of your people? |
| Islam › Re: Is Every New Thing A Bidiah In Islam? by babs787(op): 4:22pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
@Abdulrazaq, Ansary et al I perused the write up briefly and noticed that it was compiled by one of you. I have lots of text from reliable and trustworthy scholars on the issue here. I also found out that most of your quotes came from the adherents of Tariqa n which they couldnt trace Solatul fathi to any of the companions or hadiths. Based on on what I read there that the prophet said we should praise him in the best way hence your coming up with your own way and if we should do like that then we would be having scores of that and would lead to confusion. Why should we ignore what the prophet said to that of man made and not even from his companions? Let me quickly go through part of the write up. It is very lenghty and I tried reducing so as to be able to respond. The adherents of Tariqa, especially the Tijjaniyya argued against the above views postulated by the Izalatul Bid’a pointing out that Salatul-Faatihi has two main sources; first it got its origin right inside the prophet’s house through his cousin Aliyu bin Abi Dhalib.let me have the hadith with the chain of transmission. Their major reference is the book of Ash-shifaa by Qaadiy Iyyadh, where Aliyu was reported to have taught a female Sahaba (companion) a salat that has the most significant portion of salatul-faatihi (Q. Iyyaad.1985, Vol ii. Pp.70-71). In another book titled Al-qaulul badeeah fis salaati alal Habeebi shafee’u (AL-Sakhawiy, 1963, P:44-45), the author too justifies this position. He quoted the same hadeeth reported by Salamatul Kindiyyi who was first taught the salat by Aliyu bin Abi Dhalib. The author Muhammad bin Abdulrahman bin Muhammad bin Abubakar Al Sakhaawiy Al Shafi’iy (born in Sakhaa, Misra in present day Egypt, in 831 A.H and died in 902 A.H), has proved the source of Salatul Faatihi from the holy prophet (Ibid).Traced to the holy prophet ke? Can I have the hadith, isnad and where it came from the prophet? Likewise, in a book titled Afdhalul-salawaat alaa sayyidil saadaat written by Yusufun Nabhaaniy, the different riwaayats (versions) of Salatul Faatihi were explicitly analyzed.How come versions of Solatul fathi and do we have versios of Solatul Ibrahim? On page 69 for example, the same version of Salaatul faatihi as recorded in the book of Ash-shifaa’u was also mentioned. Similarly, Imam Al- Jazuliy, (Shazili Tariqa Shaykh) who traced his ancestry to the Prophet Muhammed (SAW) through Imam Hassan Ibn 'Ali Abi Dhalib quoted Salatul-faatihi in his famous work Dalaa’ilul khairaat. Al-qisdalaaniy in his book Al-mawaahibul ladunniyya has also mentioned its significance after stating the two different riwaayaats (versions) of Salaatul faatihi. Al-Sayyid Muhammad bin Hadi bin Hassan bin Abdul-Rahman Al-Saqafy- Al-Hussainy also included it in his mosaic of salawaat and du’a (Supplication) titled An-Nafahaatul Anbiyaa’u fees-Salaati alaa Khairil bariyyati (The Fragrance of Amber in the blessings on the best of creation).All the above mentioned are tariqa adherents and what do you expect to read from them? How come we are having versions sir? Salatul Fatihi was mentioned and its source linked to the prophet Muhammad (SAW).Can I have that please? We should be very careful of what we say. You should know that I am not cofortable with Usman bin Fodio as he happened to be one of you and he claim couldnt be verified. The second work of Sheikh Uthman bin Fodio that contain the full text of Salatul Fatihi is Dalaa’ilu Sheikh bin Fodio. It appears on page 6, where Sheikh Uthman said one recitation of Salatul Fatihi is equivalent to 700,000 times of any other salat or Zikir.Hope you are now seeing what Solatul fathi is all about. How did you arrive at the 700,000 times equivalent? However, Sheikh Sheriff Ibrahim Saleh a prominent Tijjaniyya teacher based in Maiduguri, held a different view from other members of the Tijjaniyya Sufi order on the merit of Salatul Faatihi. In his book title Al-takfir, he quoted a sentence attributed to Sheikh Tijjaniy that is often invoked by the Tijjaniys to clear the Sheikh from the criticisms of his detractors especially the Izala or from certain claims made by other Sufis, which Sheikh Tijjani would not endorse. The statement is[b], “If you hear any statement which I am reported to have made, compare it with the sources of Shari’a, accept what is in line with them and reject what contradicts them” Sheikh Sheriff went further to criticize some publishing houses for attributing certain false statement to the sheikh[/b]:Does Solatul fathi goes in line with the Shariah? In Jawahirul Ma’aaniy, (vol. 2 P.135,) similar statement was also attributed to Sheikh Tijjaniy. In Al-Takfeer for example, Sheriff Ibrahim Saleh observed that The above statement deserve thorough analysis, first Sheikh Tijjany is reported to have started reciting salaatul faatihi on the basis of the recommendation made by Sheikh Muhammadul Bakry in the wirdatul wujud. Later he changed to another, which he believed was better. Later on he resumed the recitation of salaatul faatihi following a vision he had with the prophet (S.A.W.) who told him to reverse to Salaatul faatihi, which was better.Allah knows best However, it is necessary at this juncture to draw attention to the fact that the statements according to which one recitation of Salaatul Faatih is equal to that of the Qur’an or to six recitations of the Qur’an are totally misunderstood. Because they are denied by other statements in the same Jawaahirul ma’aaniy (vol.1 p69), Sheikh Ahmad Tijjaniy said, he who recites the supreme name of Allah gets as a reward, 7000 residences in paradise and in each residence, there will be 7000 times everything that is found on earth (virgins, palaces, rivers e.t.c) He has a reward equal to six thousand recitations of the Salaatul faatihi, he has the reward of Suratul Fatiha and the reward of the recitation of the Qur’an.May Allah increase our knowledge. How did you arrive at all these brother? Can you get me where it is stated in th hadith that he who recites the name of Allah get as reward of 7,000 and equal to 6,000 recitation of Solatul fathi. Where is Solatul Ibrahim? In another word Salaatul Faatihi is superior to all other forms of Zikir or tasbih but not to the Holy Qur’an as a word of AllahAre you saying its superior to Solatul Ibrahim recognised by the holy Prophet (saw)? Sheikh Usman bin fodio of blessed memory has after enumerating some of the important Salat mentioned the superiority of Salaatul Faatihi over other salats and azkaar in his prominent work titled Dalaa’ilul sheikh usman bin fodiy. He stated that one recitation of Salaatul faatihi is equivalent to 600,000 or 700,000 times of any other Salat other than Salatul FatihiBrother, here we come again. How did you arrive (adherent of Tariqa) at the above reward? Could you furnish me the hadith you culled that from? Are you giving it superiority over Solatul Ibrahim? I seek your mercy o Allah and not your wrath. And to some scholars, when the prophet (S.A.W.) cited the example of Salat Al-Ibrahimiyya, he was just trying to bring himself down to the same status with prophet Ibrahim. It does not mean that people should stick to that particular Salaat alone.Brother, I disagree with that. If the prophet wanted us to be using others, he would have said so and in case you dont know, he tried to avoid praising him than it ought to be which would lead to equating him to Allah or calling him Allah as christians do to Jesus. If the prophet wants, he would have given the condition but the gave the above to foster unity and not what we are seeing today. Let me stop here to give room for your response. Maa Salam. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Be Both A Christian And A Muslim by babs787(m): 3:31pm On Jan 17, 2009 |
@OP You can do the two together but its advisable to stick to one because the two religion differ in one way or the other. You cannot claim to be a muslim and still believe in trinity, sonship, saviour etc stuff which go against christian teaching and you cannot claim to be a christian and still not believe that Jesus is a son of God, was sent to the world as saviour, was God etc which runs contrary to Islamic belief So it would be better to stick to one and known for that. |
| Islam › Re: Beware Of Muslims? by babs787(m): 7:10pm On Jan 14, 2009 |
@Seeklove All these your long posts are to prove that it is okay to kill senselessly like muslims do.?Brother, where in our posts did we ok senseless killings? Why don't you guys open your eyes and question the morality of that religion. Listen to your heart!! what does it tell you?Do you care to share that with me? Islam is terribly lacking in morality. It is nothing but false scams and lies cooked up by some barbaric arabian people.Proof please and r u prepared if you and I go into your book? It is noting but a political way of enslaving the minds of people and promoting barbaric arabian culture.Facts please Why do you have to pray to your allah in arabic?Go learn if you lacked knowledge and not disgraing yourself here? Do we have that unity in your faith? Because he is an arabic god, and not the universal God.Facts please How come your allah posses nothing but qualities of arabic people i.e. wickedness, lust, lust for murder, and deception? Because he is an arabic god, and not the universal God.Ignorance is really a disease. Do you care if I share the killings in your book with you? I work with a bunch of arabic people, and they all posses these qualities that I mentioned above. When you catch them lying, they will tell you that the Koran says that it is okay to lie for the sake of peace.Liar. Do you care to show me where we have that and I would provide you where someone lied in the bible. They are also racists, they don't like black people at all, as much as they hate jews too,Go learn, you dont know anything jare and it would be sheer waste of time discussing with you. You may read the story of BILAL, the first black muslim. From my experiences with arabic people(the inventors of islam), I will advice anybody to beware of islam and muslims.Go learn and you come to me for discussion. |
| Islam › Re: Happy New Year 1430 by babs787(m): 6:45pm On Jan 14, 2009 |
@Seeklove This is blasphemy of the highest order! The Lord Jesus Christ, the son of the only true God is not a muslim. He was never a muslim and will never become a muslim.Can you show me anywhere that all those you mentioned above are christians? |
| Islam › Re: Happy New Year 1430 by babs787(m): 8:39pm On Jan 11, 2009 |
Abeg leave SeanT21 alone o. She wants to learn. I am just trying to play along with her and he should find out what is Lunar months and Gregorian months and when she is thru, let her find out the origin of the two and when she's done, I would come in for further lecture. |
| Islam › Re: Sufism In Islam. Share Your Opinions With Us. by babs787(m): 8:23pm On Jan 11, 2009 |
They are divided into two groups, one is extreme and one that is not extreme. The extremist group rejects the Attributes of Knowledge, Desire, Ability and Creating from Allaah in favor of the actions of the servant. However, they reject its occurring by His Desire, Ability and Creating. This is what their belief is founded upon. |
| Islam › Re: Happy New Year 1430 by babs787(m): 8:19pm On Jan 11, 2009 |
You are saying two different things my dear. You asked the first question in which I responded and you asked or changed to another question in which my answer is, it is known worldwide, particularly among Muslims and some non muslims as well. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Would You Worship Another Human Being? by babs787(m): 8:14pm On Jan 11, 2009 |
@Graxie Do you have facts to support his being your God? Please furnish me with your trinity and we look at it in the bible together and you may still provide me where others before Jesus preached same as Jesus couldnt have brought message different from those before him. |
| Islam › Re: Don't Answer Their Questions! by babs787(m): 8:11pm On Jan 11, 2009 |
One of them has replied jare |
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