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@Mazaje

[b]i do not need to create a thread for that the koran was plagiarized from the tanakah [/b]and other books that were not included in the bible.

Bring your fact and you see me discussing with you.

Who plagiarised it?
What language was Tanakah written?

@Noetic

why not ask allah. . . . . .the idol god that has 3 daughters Grin Grin Grin Grin who was worshipped by mohammeds father

You with the remaining three cannot even explain the lies in your bible with regards to his alleged crucifixion.

ou still cannot answer this simple question with your wasted years of reading the bible. This goes to show you that I have been reading the bible and still reading after my reversion to Islam and would educate you just like I have been doing that to Davidylan having been exposed bringing false prophecies.

@Mazaje

but that does not mean that the koran is not also a forgery. . . . .

You could create a thread and we discuss the alleged forgery, you and I.

@Noetic

Quite unintelligent

post what each of the versions says concerning the verses. then we can help u.

If the bible is complete, where are these verses in Revised Standard Version, Good News Bible, New International Bible, Living Bible Versions and other bibles apart from KJV

a.Mathew 17 v 21

21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

(b) mark 11 v 26

26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

(c) acts 8 v 37

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

(e) Mathew 21 v 44

44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

(f) Mathew 23 v 14 etc

14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

So I have done that, explain them to me?
Where did KJV see them when they do not exist in the original manuscript?

If the bible is complete, where are these verses in Revised Standard Version, Good News Bible, New International Bible, Living Bible Versions and other bibles apart from KJV

@Noetic, Davidylan

I know both of you or four of you put together would not be able to stand BABS and explain the incosistency in your BIBLE

What is Ishmael age when sent away?
Do we agree to 17?

@Davidylan

I thought your god is a loving, merciful and just god

1 Samuel 15:

2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them no[b]t; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.[/b]


What did ANIMALS do to him?


2nd chronicle 15 v 13: All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, w[b]ere to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.[/b]

MERCIFUL god indeed.


What do you have to say to these killings:

The Serb Christians waged war on the Muslim civilians in Bosnia and Kosovo. In Bosnia, more than 200,000 Muslims were killed and more than 1400 mosques were destroyed or damaged. About 200 villages have been destroyed in Kosovo and about 250,000 refugees have fled for their lives.

What about this link:
http://www.christianaggression.com/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1137511050

Where was Jesus crucified?

In Jerusalem or Outside?

@Davidylan

Go there and see if answers have not been proveded, you think Masjid has to be building, olodo. This thread is meant for another discussion and you should stop acting like a coward and answer the question here. You may go that thread and see if answer has not been provided.

Liar and escapist.

@Davidylan

why has every muslim ignored the main question . . . how could mohammad's father be called Abd-allah when his son was the one who introduced the quranic allah?

Who was this allah that mohammad's father was a slave to?

Olodo. Since you are that deluded, with comprehension problem and probsbly not with your glasses; I re-present it again since you are coward and a liar.

Having digested that, Allah was known to be God in pagans of Arabia back then but they believed mostly in idol worshipping beside Him. Some of the major idols they worshipped are Laat, Manaat, and Uzza in which they believed were daughters of ALLAH. Allah has been known since the time of Adam but they prefer worshipping idol which they believe provide all they need.

Allah has been known before Muhammed (saw) and his father were born. It was not Muhammed that introduced but same has been worsipped since Adam was created.

For the fact that his father was idol worshipper doesnt mean that Allah never existed then, Alah exists but they prefer worshipping idol to Him.

Olodo.

@Davidylan

Why does the quran not mention this? Why are you searching for the age in the bible?

Liar, Coward. You cant even stand me to discuss religion. Your bible claimed that Ishmael was put on her mother's back but we calculated the age and found Ishmale to be 17 years old.

So which do we believe and what is Ishmael's age when sent away? Solve the incosistency and save your bible.

@Davidylan

I know you would not be able to, Liar.

If you are man enough, lets discuss and would futher expose your fraud. Go to the link and see if answers have not been provided.

This is the link
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-259831.0.html

So be bold enough to answer my question. Olodo

@Davidylan

Coward, troll. Are you not ashamed of yourself? You have been bringing allegations in which I for one have been answering you but you are not man enough to answer questions on your faith.

The addition of Noetic, Todak and No2atheism should be additional advantage to discuss with Babs.

Olodo, Wise and stop being a coward.

You can do better by providing answers to those questions.

LIAR

@Noetic

Fine. I just want to know why mohammed`s father was called abdallah. meaning a servant of allah, since mohammed introduced u to allah?

I learnt that you keep recycling same thing. I have replied your brother but in case you missed, here it is again:

@Davidlyan and No2atheism

Ignorance is really a disease which both of you demonstrated here.

Since both of you claimed that the word means Idol, quickly check where you tried running to then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_(Arabic)


Having digested that, Allah was known to be God in pagans of Arabia back then but they believed mostly in idol worshipping beside Him. Some of the major idols they worshipped are Laat, Manaat, and Uzza in which they believed were daughters of ALLAH. Allah has been known since the time of Adam but they prefer worshipping idol which they believe provide all they need.

Also, do we say the word as being seen in the bible means god?
Do we also say northern. arab christians that call Him Allah are referring to god?

If the bible is complete, where are these verses in Revised Standard Version, Good News Bible, New International Bible, Living Bible Versions and other bibles apart from KJV

a.Mathew 17 v 21

(b) mark 11 v 26

(c) acts 8 v 37

(d) Mathew 17 v 21

(e) Mathew 21 v 44

(f) Mathew 23 v 14 etc

What was Ishmael age when he was sent away with her mother?

I have noticed for days that these mentioned people have displayed high level of ignorance despite the fact that Muslims answered their questios. Since they feel on top of the world that they know about their religion and my religion and have been 'teaching us' same, I decided to bring issues in christianity to their section so that I would test their brains put together against mine.

Note; I would not entertain any questions or response form any other person esxcept these four people. They have bit more than they can chew and I am here to teach them about their faith which they lacked knowledge.

I have not been creating threads but decide to when these above mentioned people think that they know Islam so much and could display their ignorance.


@Noetic, Davidylan, Todak, No2atheism

http://www.nobeliefs.com/easter.htm

"Ishtar", which is pronounced "Easter" was a day that commemorated the resurrection of one of their gods that they called "Tammuz", who was believed to be the only begotten son of the moon-goddess and the sun-god.

In those ancient times, there was a man named Nimrod, who was the grandson of one of Noah's son named Ham.

Ham had a son named Cush who married a woman named Semiramis.Cush and Semiramis then had a son named him "Nimrod."

After the death of his father, Nimrod married his own mother and became a powerful King.

The Bible tells of of this man, Nimrod, in Genesis 10:8-10 as follows: "And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord. And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad,and Calneh, in the land of Shinar."

Nimrod became a god-man to the people and Semiramis, his wife and mother, became the powerful Queen of ancient Babylon.

Nimrod was eventually killed by an enemy, and his body was cut in pieces and sent to various parts of his kingdom.

Semiramis had all of the parts gathered, except for one part that could not be found.

That missing part was his reproductive organ. Semiramis claimed that Nimrod could not come back to life without it and told the people of Babylon that Nimrod had ascended to the sun and was now to be called "Baal", the sun god.

Queen Semiramis also proclaimed that Baal would be present on earth in the form of a flame, whether candle or lamp, when used in worship.

Semiramis was creating a mystery religion, and with the help of Satan, she set herself up as a goddess.

Semiramis claimed that she was immaculately conceived.

She taught that the moon was a goddess that went through a 28 day cycle and ovulated when full.

She further claimed that she came down from the moon in a giant moon egg that fell into the Euphrates River.

This was to have happened at the time of the first full moon after the spring equinox.

Semiramis became known as "Ishtar" which is pronounced "Easter", and her moon egg became known as "Ishtar's" egg."

Ishtar soon became pregnant and claimed that it was the rays of the sun-god Baal that caused her to conceive.

The son that she brought forth was named Tammuz.

Tammuz was noted to be especially fond of rabbits, and they became sacred in the ancient religion, because Tammuz was believed to be the son of the sun-god, Baal. Tammuz, like his supposed father, became a hunter.

The day came when Tammuz was killed by a wild pig.

Queen Ishtar told the people that Tammuz was now ascended to his father, Baal, and that the two of them would be with the worshippers in the sacred candle or lamp flame as Father, Son and Spirit.

Ishtar, who was now worshipped as the "Mother of God and Queen of Heaven", continued to build her mystery religion.

The queen told the worshippers that when Tammuz was killed by the wild pig, some of his blood fell on the stump of an evergreen tree, and the stump grew into a full new tree overnight. This made the evergreen tree sacred by the blood of Tammuz.

She also proclaimed a forty day period of time of sorrow each year prior to the anniversary of the death of Tammuz.

During this time, no meat was to be eaten.

Worshippers were to meditate upon the sacred mysteries of Baal and Tammuz, and to make the sign of the "T" in front of their hearts as they worshipped.

They also ate sacred cakes with the marking of a "T" or cross on the top.

Every year, on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox, a celebration was made.

It was Ishtar's Sunday and was celebrated with rabbits and eggs.

Ishtar also proclaimed that because Tammuz was killed by a pig, that a pig must be eaten on that Sunday.

Please do the three days and three nights calculation for me. Jesus died on Friday but resurrected on Sunday morning.

The gospels contradict themselves on this matter. John says Jesus was crucified at noon, while Mark says it was the third hour, or 9:00 a.m. (Jn 19.14, Mk 15.25). In any event, Jesus spent from three to six hours hanging from a cross, torture that traditionally was survived for three to six days."

Jesus' last words, according to Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34, were to quote Psalm 22, 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?' "But Luke has Jesus quote psalm 31: 'Father, into your hands I commend my spirit'. [Also] John's account, in which Jesus says [, ] 'It is finished' [John 19:28-30]"Freke & Gandy, p173. It seems that Jesus' disciples do not know his last words.


Solve the above and we continue please.

@Noetic

5. why are muslims inclined towards "holy" killing against defenceless women and children?

Proof please:


Compare these

Quran 5:32 ", if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people, "

Ibn `Abbas says: The Messenger of Allah, when dispatching his troops, would tell them, " , Do not behave treacherously, nor misappropriate war-booty, nor mutilate [those whom you kill], nor kill children, nor the people in cloisters." [Narrated by Ahmad, Tirmidhi (who graded it hasan sahih ]).

Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Go in Allah's name, trusting in Allah, and adhering to the religion of Allah's Apostle. Do not kill a decrepit old man, or a young infant, or a child, or a woman; do not be dishonest about booty, but collect your spoils, do right and act well, for Allah loves those who do well. (Sunan Abu Dawud , Book 14, Number 2608)

TO:


1 Samuel 15:

2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.


What did ANIMALS DO?


2nd chronicle 15 v 13: All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.

I thought your god is a loving one

When the Crusaders conquered Jerusalem, they killed 70,000 Muslims. When the Muslims re-conquered the city they did not kill anybody.

The Serb Christians waged war on the Muslim civilians in Bosnia and Kosovo. In Bosnia, more than 200,000 Muslims were killed and more than 1400 mosques were destroyed or damaged. About 200 villages have been destroyed in Kosovo and about 250,000 refugees have fled for their lives.

Read more here
http://www.christianaggression.com/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1137511050

6. what is the rationality in amputating a helpless boy, who stole because of poverty, in the name of sharia?

Oga I have told you several times to support your lies with facts. Bring the picture because I know where you are going. I tried looking for it but culdnt see it but would love to have the site and the pictures that the man used to deceive you. I could remember that Jarus and Myself attended to the liar.

Is this how you are being brainwashed?

7. why is terrorism an islamic agenda?

Terrorism is not an Islamic agenda. Honestly I would have loved to go into details but found that that you are a LIAR that couldnt support your allegation with facts. Terrorism is not an Islamic agenda but if you have it somewhere, I would be glad to have it.

8. whats the rationale in killing people who choose to convert to other religions after seeing the numerous and despicable evil of islam?

Like I said, you are not here to learn but to show your stupidity and ignorance. What evil of Islam have you exposed? You leave them alone

9. whats ur explanation for mohammed marrying a 6 year old girl? would u let him marry and sexually abuse ur 6 year old girl?

Olod set of people. Did he has intercourse with her at the age of six. LIAR? I need your facts please.

10. why do u presently wish u could see me now and stab me? why is violence in ur blood?

Olodo. Keep deceiving yourself. I was not taught to kill, neither have I read that from the Quran and Hadith.

11. why is there no tolerance in any islamic state? why is there no democracy in any islamic state?

Which Islamic state do you know that doesnt preach tolerance and when you do, I will educate you by giving you those that do same.

12. why do u have to kill for allah? why is allah such a powerless, blood thirsty, demonic and consciously debilitating object called an idol?

Where did you see that. You be liar. I have provided verses going against that. When you finish fooling yourself, do justice to the killings by your people and the site I supplied you

13. why do u abuse ur powers on nairaland, by banning and deleting anti-islamic posts, yet promote anti-xtian posts?

Olodo, do I have the power to do such a thing? Be civil and your worries would be laid to rest.

14. whats the rationale behind jihad? fighting and killing defenceless people when unprovoked?

Read and educate yourself from my intelligent brother here rathenr than displaying ignorance which has been the trademark of some of you here.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-246365.0.html

15. why does allah want u to convert the world to islam by war? if he was that powerful, why didnt he just touch people`s heart when prayed for?

LIAR. Please supply me where you have that and have you read the site and all I posted on the killings of your people?

16. why is allah keeping several generations of slaves? why is he not a father, but an advocate of modern slavery?

Read Roman 16 and stop swimming in the ocean of ignorance. Since you God children, how could he condemn to hell fire for not obeying him? Does that speak of a loving father and can you as a father do that to your son?

17. why is the world such a terrible place because of the violence of islam?

Na lie. Go to history rather than displaying ignorance.

why? why? why? why? why?

I have done that and you should always support your lies with facts

please answer this pertinent questions, to enlighten me about islam.

I have done that. Threads are about to be created in your section for fur of you and myself

@Noetic

2. What explanation do u have for mohammed`s paedophilic nature?

Na lie. He was engaged in any paedolphic and you should bring your proof if you have.

3. why did mohammed kill 700 jews in year 600?

Facts pls and while doing that, you may read my response to your first question and check here as well

http://www.christianaggression.com/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1137511050

4. why did mohammed snatch his adopted son`s wife? isnt that incest?

Olodo. I have replied Todak, you keep recycling questions which shows your lack of knowledge.

Read again:

According to the Western culture, an adopted son becomes an actual son. But this law does not exist in Islam.

Let us look at Noble Verses 33:4-5 "Allah has not Made for any man two hearts in his (one) body: nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers: nor has He Made your adopted sons your sons. Such is (only) your (manner of) speech by your mouths. But Allah Tells (you) the Truth, and He Shows the (right) Way."

Zihar is the divorce done by pagan Arabs before Islam, where a man would say to his wife you are to me like my mother. The man could marry another woman, where the woman couldn't marry another man, which was very degrading to all women.

Zayd's, the Prophet's alleged "adopted son" by the haters of Islam, wife, was the one who wanted to divorce him and marry the Prophet. She was not forced into the marriage by any means. Let us look at Noble Verse 58:1 "God has indeed heard (and accepted) the statement of the woman who pleads with thee concerning her husband and carries her complaint (in prayer) to God: and God (always) hears the arguments between both sides among you: for God hears and sees (all things)."

Let us look at Noble Verse 33:37 "Behold! thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favour: 'Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah.' But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then Zayd had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), we joined her in marriage to thee: In order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the believers in (the matter) of marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled."

According to Islamic laws, where from the above Noble Verses do we see our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him marrying his daughter in law?!

According to Noble Verses 33:4-5 above, we clearly see that an adopted son is NOT in the place of an actual son. An adopted son is a son from a stranger person. The foster father would still have to treat the adopted son with kindness and fulfill all of his needs. But the adopted son can never be an actual son.

According to Noble Verse 33:37 above, we clearly see that Allah Almighty allowed for the Muslims to marry the former wives of their adopted sons!.

If a man called another's son "his son", it might create complications with natural and normal relationships if taken too literally. The truth is the truth and can not be altered by men's adopting "sons". "Adoption" in the technical sense is not allowed in Muslim Law. Those who have been "wives of your sons proceeding from your loins" are within the Prohibited Degrees of marriage, but this does not apply to "adopted" sons; "Prohibited to you (for marriage) are your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in no prohibition if ye have not gone in (those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (The Noble Quran, 4:23)"

To be continued

@Noetic

Before I continue, your attention is needed in your section and would still create some as well and you must not run. To make it easier for you, Davidylan, No2atheism, Todak would be there to assist you.

1. why are muslims all over the world blood thirsty and would readily kill in the name of anything?

How many muslims did you know that are blood thirsty?

Quran 5:32 ", if any one slew a person - u[b]nless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people[/b]: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people, "

Ibn `Abbas says: The Messenger of Allah, when dispatching his troops, would tell them, " , D[b]o not behave treacherously, nor misappropriate war-booty, nor mutilate [those whom you kill], nor kill children, nor the people in cloisters.[/b]" [Narrated by Ahmad, Tirmidhi (who graded it hasan sahih ]).

Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Go in Allah's name, trusting in Allah, and adhering to the religion of Allah's Apostle. Do not kill a decrepit old man, or a young infant, or a child, or a woman; do not be dishonest about booty, but collect your spoils, do right and act well, for Allah loves those who do well. (Sunan Abu Dawud , Book 14, Number 2608)

But going through the bible:

Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.(Numbers 31:17-18)"


1 Samuel 15:

2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, a[b]nd utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not[/b]; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.


What did ANIMALS DO?


2nd chronicle 15 v 13: All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.

I thought your god is a loving one

A search for the word "kill" found it 4[b]42 times in the Revised Standard Version[/b], and 271 times in the King James Version of the Bible compared to 40 times in the Pickthall Version and 22 times in the Yusuf-Ali Version of the Qur'an!

When the Crusaders conquered Jerusalem, they killed 70,000 Muslims. When the Muslims re-conquered the city they did not kill anybody.

Orthodox Christians were considered heretics and therefore did not escape the Crusaders' brutality. The Orthodox Churches, which were safe during centuries of Muslim rule, were looted by the Crusaders. The Holy Grail was not the only thing the Crusaders took from the Orthodox churches.

The Serb Christians waged war on the Muslim civilians in Bosnia and Kosovo. In Bosnia, mor[b]e than 200,000 Muslims have been killed[/b] and more than 1400 mosques were destroyed or damaged. About 200 villages have been destroyed in Kosovo and about 250,000 refugees have fled for their lives.

When the Serb Christians invaded Kosovo, they destroyed all mosques despite the fact that the Christian monasteries were safe for centuries in the predominantly Muslim Kosovo.

Read more here
http://www.christianaggression.com/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1137511050


To be continued

@Noetic, Davidylan, Todak, No2atheism


Please do the three days and three nights calculation for me. Jesus died on Friday but resurrected on Sunday morning.

When you are able to do that, we would go into the lies of his dying for your sin.

Note: would not entertain any response from any body except these above mentioned people. As we proceed, I will create threads strictly for the people mentioned above.

Welcome to my world

@Noetic

so allah was a bloody idol worshipped long before mohammed was born. . . . . . .incredible Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

That shows the extent of your being brainwashed. I keep seeing this word 'Allah' in your BIBLE but still do not know your problem with same.

I raised it in one of the thread that BABS would like to discuss with you, David, Todak, No2atheism on your doctrines starting with pagan festival caled Easter and we would try to calculate three days and three nights as claimed by Jesus because you people believed that He died on Friday but would resurrect on Sunday morning and you would as well go to see him in Galilee.
Olodo set of people.

How do we spend our time?

Time and tide wait for no man. Time passes on, used or abused. And the two angels on our shoulders write down every action…

In one of the shortest and most powerful surahs, we are reminded that our whole existence in this life would be utterly wasted, futile, and pointless unless we have faith in Allah, act righteously, and join with others in encouraging truthfulness, patience, and perseverance (Al-`Asr 103).

During our lifetime, we will encounter hardship and prosperity, grief and happiness. Allah will test us, with success and with suffering, to see who is best in faith, to test our iman. To the believer, time is a wonderful asset, it is a chance to seek Allah's mercy, to ask forgiveness, and to do more good deeds.

We must use our time wisely, because wasted time can never be recovered. Time and tide wait for no man. Time passes on, used or abused. And the two angels on our shoulders write down every action in our book of deeds.

Don't we often wish that we could live our lives again from the start, so that we could put right the wrong things we did? And that our successes could be repeated over and over again? The very fact that we now want to forget our mistakes, or, we want to repeat our good deeds, shows that we have learnt from our experiences in time. Yes, Allah has placed Time at our service as our teacher: it is a teacher that allows good and bad things to happen. But the decision is made by our own free will.

If we look back in history, we will see that, in time, every unjust oppressor was destroyed. In time, good prevails over evil. But this comes only with effort and sacrifice. Thus the hard work, suffering, humility and perseverance of all the Prophets of Allah, helped justice to prevail over oppression.

Just think of Prophet Musa (Moses) and Pharaoh, or Prophet Muhammad and the tribe of Quraish. Thus Allah Almighty reminds us in the Qur'an:

(Whoever does good, it is for his own soul, and whoever does evil, it is against it.) (Fussilat 41: 46)

Time wears out and destroys all material things. But time itself, was created by Allah. Allah Alone is the Master of time, and He punishes and rewards us in relation to how we use our time.

We have the power to use time to make our world a better place. But are we truly aware of the value of time? Does our use of the time show that we understand the purpose for which we were created? Do we fully realize that we cannot escape Allah's judgment? Allah created us to serve Him and Him Alone, and all our actions must reflect this. Our actions must be in harmony with all other creatures, and must follow with the Divine Plan of Allah.

Certain forms of `ibadah (worship) need to be observed at definite, prescribed times, such as our prayers, fasting, hajj, and Jumu`ah. We cannot perform Jumu`ah at any time, according our convenience, like on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon! Our daily routines must fit in with our Islamic duties that are time-related. This way, all our good actions will become an extension of our `ibadah.

Time is valuable. Let's not waste it on vain conversations and petty arguments. Let's use our time creatively, to move forward, as individuals and as an Ummah. Every moment in time is a favor Allah bestows on us, and surely we must repay honor with honor.

We must express our gratitude to Allah Almighty by using every moment in His service, by teaching others, inviting others to good and, serving our less fortunate brothers and sisters in distress.

yawm Al-Qiyyaamah


There will come one day when Allah SWT will command everything to be destroyed. He will command Angel Israfeel to blow the Horn.Upon the first blowing all the inhabitants of the heavens and the earth will fall dead except whom Allah wills.

When Allah commands Israfeel to blow the Horn for the second time, whoever lived will be resurrected unto a terrible day. Mankind will stand before the Lord of the worlds for judgement.

People on that day will witness terrible happenings.On that day,"a man will flee from his brother and his mother and father and his wife and his children;every man among them that day will have concern enough to make him indifferent to others."( surat Abas 80;34-7)

That is yawm Al-Qiyyaamah, or the Day of resurrection,when "the heaven is cleft asunder,and when the stars are scatterd,and when the seas are erupted,when the graves are laid open,each soul will then know what it has sent forth and what it has held back." ( surat Al-Infitaar, 82:1:5)

On that day, "the sky will be taken molten metal,and the mountains will be like wool[in the process of disintegration],and no friend will ask [anything of]a friend; they will be shown each other.The sinner (i.e the disbeleivers) will wish he could be ransomed from the punishment of that day by his children,and his wife and his brother and nearest kindred who shelter him,and whoever is on earth entirely [so]then it could save him (surat Al-Maarij,70:8-14)

Yawm Al-Qiyaamaah has a number of names including Yawm-ud-Deen[b] "the Day of judgement", Yawm-ul-Fasl " the Day of Decision", Yawm-ul-Hisaab "the Day of Reconing", Al-Haaqqah " the Sure Reality", Al-Ghaashiyah "the Overwhelming Event", Al Yawm-ul-Aakhir " the Last Day", Al-Waaqiah " the Inevitable Event" and As-Saa'ah " the Hour".[/b]

On this day, people will be assembled naked,barefooted and uncircumcised. The sun will be drawn near to heads of the people and their sweat will overcome them.The depth of the sweat will be as a result of the bad actions which people performed in the life of the world.

Seven types of people,however, will be shelterd in the shade of Allah SWT Throne on this day : "A just ruler, a youth who grew up with the worship of Allah, a person whose heart is attached to the mosques, two persons who love and meet each other and depart from each other for the sake of Allah, a man whom a beautiful woman seduces [for illicit relation] but he { rejects this offer} saying, 'I fear Allah', a person who gives in charity and conceals it [to such an extent] that his left hamd might not know what his right has given, and a person who remembers Allah in solitude and tears well up his eyes."(Reported by Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim)

On that day , people will also receive their records of deeds. The righteous will receive theirs in their right hand and read it with great pleasure and satisfaction, but the wicked will have theirs in their left hand behind their backs.

Al-Meezaan, or the balance of deeds will be set up and in which all things will be weighed,and nobody will be wronged. Allah SWT on this day will judge His creation in complete justice, for He is the Best of judges: "This day, every person will be recompensed for what he earned. This Day no injustice [ will be done to anybody]. Truly Allah is swift in reconing." ( Surat Ghaafir, 40:17)

The true beleivers who feared their Lord and did good actions during their earthly life will be admitted into paradise in Allah's infinite Mercy, while the disbelievers and wicked sinners will be admitted into Hellfire due to Allah's infinite justice.

May Allah SWT forgive us our sins , increase our imaan and make our life end in total submission to His will.amin.

@Davidylan

according to sura 19:71, you dont even need to change your ways, you are hell bound anyway.

Answers were provided and try not to divert the issues as you are well known for that.

This is the issue at hand:

@Davidylan

Here he goes with his usual style of escaping issues:

Let me remind you of what you posted:

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they used to pray towards jerusalem before, when the jews rebuffed them they started to face the east.

I asked you to furnish where they did that but you clouldnt but resorted to:

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prove me wrong dude. Where are your own facts?

Are you up to the task? You know nothing when it comes to debating with BABS.

You are a big liar and yuou should supply me where JEWS rebuffed them, Liar, Olodo that cannot stand BABS when it comes to debate.

Continuation,

@Todak

weep for me. ha ha ha ha Grin Grin Grin Grin you do not need to weep for me, but weep for muhammad and all his dead followers cos they are all  gnasting their teeth right now in hell, i feel for them, cos there is no hope for them, but you do, if only you will make use of that chance.

Allah told you to provide your proof if you are indeed truthful. Do you have any proof that you are saved, please tell me.

Your post have zero effect on me, you could not justify my post to be wrong, you may feel you have but unfortunately you have just started and not one have been proven wrong.

Na wa o. What did you ask that I have not answered? Maybe we should start all over sinve you are inclined to falsehood and not reading glaring truth?

You can call me names for all i care, you are only angry for not been able to prove me wrong, cos i am exposing the evil in islam.

What have you proven oga? Where did you prove that?

I think you are the one posting falsehood cos your capital lettered sentence is grammatically wrong MARRIED TO HIM AT THE AGE OF SIX AND BETHROTHED TO HIM AT THE AGE OF NINE, which do usually come first, you are confused on the evil muhammad did and you are looking for every possible means to cover them up.
Now tell me what is the false hood i posted, do muhammad not married the girl at age 6, consumated the marriage at age 9, is that a good qualities of a good leader/prophet,
at the age of 6, is a girl ripe for marriage, at 9 is a girl old enough to be a mother, or where on earth have ever had that people of such calibre do such a thing, and if even you find, they on followed his footsteps. and i'm sure you that is defending his act can do the same thing. so tell me what falsehood can be found in the truth and nothing but the truthh.

LIAR. Read your post again:

[quote[b]]is it really true that Mohammed married and had sex with a six year old girl[/b]?  Huh

what do you have to say to that? can an ordinary man ask for the hand of a child in marriage just like that, islam is claiming it to be a betrothal, it is but is it that muhammad was sex-starved or it was lust after a young child, i need them to answer that, for more information, visit this site: www.answering-islam.org/Silas/childbrides.htm, www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm, www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/025-Muhammads-sex-life.htm. it explains better.

Have you seen your lies?

Why is it that it was when this act was done that this verse came up, just to cover him, protect him from being called false, and his adopted son became rejected because he wanted to fulfill his lustful desire, and it was then he was not his son, someone who had served him and called him father, was made fatherless cos allah bid it so. do now see that allah is wicked. If you were the one in question of thestep-so, how will you feel towards the prophet, i know you feel great isn't it?

Olodo. Is that all you have to say after having debunked your lies? You could do more by giving me more from your websites

You know what, if muhammad had tampered with his sisters, son's wives and others you mentioned, there will be a quranic backup, but unfortunately for him none of them survived him, they all died before him, so what you are bringing up is irrelevant.

Olodo, what of the explanation I gave you up? Go there and bring me more cos I can see that you can think straight having debunked your lies.

When you finish spewing jargons, could you tell in your thrash where TERRORISTS WERE MENTIONED AS INFERRED BY YOU?

Jargons, you say, angry at the truth, now tell me:
where do we have most terrorist group in the world? Arabic/Islamic countries
where do they attack most? The unbelieving countries and mostly US
what religion do they profese? Islam
What is their aim? To destroy infidels as commanded by allah
Where do they get their inspiration? From the Quran and the victorious wars of the prophet muhammad.
What is their reward? of course automatic Al-janat, where they will be in the bosom of 77 houris.
Why do they do it?Cos allah commanded them to and they also want to be in Al-janat.
So do you now see the relationship between terrorism and islam.

This is your post where you lied that Terrorts were promised 72 virgins

Is it also true that a suicide bomber is rewarded with 71 virgins in heaven? That sounds pretty disgusting and i feel sorry for the poor 'bloody' virgins. But what if it was a female suicide bomber, is she rewarded with 71 male virgins?

Could you provide me where Allah said that?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-256685.0.html

If it is the quran, you are welcomed, but if you are refering to the bible you have just gotten it wrong. ok

Okay, let us see if I got it wrong:

Deuteronomy 20:16
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, a[b]nd utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.[/b]
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

"They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man, Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.  (Numbers 31:7,17-18)"

Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, w[b]ho was nursed at my mother's breasts[/b]! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me.  I would lead you and bring you to my  mother's house-- she who has taught me.  I would give you spiced wine to drink , the nectar of my pomegranates.  His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me."

Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."

Song of Songs 1:13 "My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts." 

Song of Songs 5:1-3
1 I have come into my garden, my sister, my bride; I have gathered my myrrh with my spice. I have eaten my honeycomb and my honey; I have drunk my wine and my milk. Eat, O friends, and drink; drink your fill, O lovers. Beloved

2 I slept but my heart was awake. Listen! My lover is knocking: "Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my flawless one.  My head is drenched with dew, my hair with the dampness of the night."

3 I have taken off my robe— must I put it on again? I have washed my feet— must I soil them again?

2 Samuel 11:2-4  "One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, 'Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?'  Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home."

@Todak

Unfortunately, you did not prove me wrong, you have only been beating about the bush and trying to defend muhammad and allah

Read again and please provide your questions and would furnish you where replied you.

If you are talking of the quran, i will gladly accept your offer,

Please accept my offer to discuss Quran. Go to all the sites you know and let us discuss.

but if you are talking of the bible, it is the word of God, unique, powerful, unfallable,undisputable,purified,and forever can not be defiled.
The bible is complete, it includes all tales of life, so do not tell me what you think of any tale of the bible, cos you have only misunderstood and misinterpreted it, and the cause for it.

Four other gospels composed by men were chosen by Athanasius, a fourth century bishop to replace the lost Gospel of Jesus Christ. (The New Encyclopedia Britannica vol. 14. p. 814).

Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation.’

1. Who was the father of Uzziah?

Joram (Matthew 1:
Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

2. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

3. Did Jesus bear his own cross?

Yes (John 19:17)
No (Matthew 27:31-32)

4. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?

Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38)
No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)

5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)


If you are saying the bible is complete

1. which is complete, the protestants (66 books) or catholics (73 books)

2. If the bible is complete, where are these verses in Revised Standard Version, Good News Bible, New International Bible, Living Bible Versions and other bibles apart from KJV

a.Mathew 17 v 21 (b) mark 11 v 26 (c) acts 8 v 37 (d) Mathew 17 v 21 (e) Mathew 21 v 44 (f) Mathew 23 v 14 etc

3. If the bible is complete

a.
Numbers 21:14 Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the Lord, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon,

where is the Book of the Wars of the Lord?

b.Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

2 Samuel 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)

where is the Book of Jasher

c.1 Chronicles 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,

where is the Book of Samuel the Seer and Gad the Seer?

d.1 Chronicles 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,…

where is the book of Nathan the Prophet?

e. 2 Chronicles 9:29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Where is the prophecy of Ahijah and Shilonite and the visions of Iddo the Seer?

f.2 Chronicles 12:15 Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually.

Where is the Book of Shemaiah, the prophet?

g.2 Chronicles 20:34 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Jehu the son of Hanani, who is mentioned in the book of the kings of Israel.

Where is the Book of Jehu?

h.2 Chronicles 26:22 Now the rest of the acts of Uzziah, first and last, did Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, write.

Where is the Acts of Uzziah?

Indeed, i keep spewing lies cos you are unconfortable with the way i expose the evil called islam, and it is even shown from your post that if even we could confront our selves now, you would not hesitate to run your knife through me. cos allah bid you to do so. and from the look of things i see you are the liar here, cos you do not seems to know the facts about what you profese to believe. ok

What have you exposed liar?
What facts have you presented?

Yes, thats where the point is, most christians do call God, allah, cos they are ignorant, the northerns (Hausa) call God, "Ubangiji", allah was a borrowed word from islam since 90% of northereners are muslims, so do not be carried away, and if even allah is mentioned as God in the Arabic bible, it was replaced cos of the dominance of islam in the arabic countries.

Olodo, is it Arabs that wrote the bible?

And i really need to educate you if you do not know, allah was the moon god and also the chief god in mecca as at when muhammad was born, there were 360 gods in mecca (kabba), and muhammad's father served allah, so when muhammad saw his devilish vision of the so called monothesim but indirectly polythesim he riddicled, he destroyed all other gods and proclaimed allah as the only god, and unfortunately for him, the moon god had three daughters, which made him at loggershead with even him own tribe the quarysh, which made him to allow the worship of the three daughters of allah-(Al-‘Uzza, al-Lat and Manah) and this led to the satanic verses, tell me how come that if allah is really God, he would tell muhammad to worship his daughters afterall it is monthesim, and for your information before islam was, the true name of God was the Tetragrammaton that is - yud heh vav heh: YHVH.
And thats why the islamic symbol is a cresent moon in reverence to allah, the moon god. So if christian do call God allah, they are only ignorant of it. ok Allah is Dead, since muhammad died, he could not even die a honourable death, a warrior prophet who was defeated by fever, a prophet, but allah should have warned him, if he were alive or could have saved him if he were god but Jesus is alive, he still save, deliever and help, it is not too late for you.

Present your case one at a time and I would oblige you rather than displaying lack of intelligence.

1. Provide your proof on Allah being the moon God and please if Muslim worship moon, what of in the morning and afternoon when the moon is not yet up?

On daughters of Allah:

Quran 53 v 19: Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

Quran 53 v 20: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

Quran 53 v 21: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?

Quran 53 v 22: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

Quran 53 v 23: These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!

The verses exposed you liar.

To be continued,

@Todak

Whaooo, you really surprise me alot, so you can refer some one to a website to butress your point,you condemned me of going to the wbsites to back up my post. Now you have done the same thing when you are so so defeated. so you really go to other websites to prove your points in the post, oh oh i do not really know what to say than call you a coward, i am dissappionted in you. i thought you know the bible, an expertise in the quran and historian from you bunch of post. but you are just like any other muslim who seek for backups at the website. Shame on you.

I dont blame you. What do you expect from a liar that couldnt back his lies? INSHA Allah, Babs would teach you, David, NO2atheism, Noetic your book and expose your lies therein.
Call on me when you have another lies to present and I would Insha Allah enlighten you. Olodo set of people

You LIAR, you can only decieve those who do not know, go to the post (Todak, We have unfinished business here) where i have replied you.

I would definitely go there. I have been busy all these while but I have your time now and we are beginning to see the LIAR that couldnt debunk the link on the meaning of that word. Olodo.

and for the sake of others, who do not know, Allah was not the true name of God in pre-islamic time,

What do they call HIM oga?

not even Adam call God Allah,

What did Adam call Him?

Allah was the Moon-god, the chief god of mecca out of 360 gods in mecca who has three daughters, and was worshiped before muhammad was born, just like david posted, Abdullahi the father of muhammad served allah, so if you want to know more please go to the post i refer babs to.

Stop deceiving yourself, I provided you wikipedia to search the meaning there but you feined ignorance. Babs would expose your lies further as Davidylan has been bleached of his lies many times.

Read the verses:


Quran 53 v 19:  Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

Quran 53 v 20: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

Quran 53 v 21: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?

Quran 53 v 22: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

Quran 53 v 23: These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!

The verses exposed you liar.

Go back to the post (Todak, We have unfinished business here). It  is because of the dominance of islam and also the ignorance that made the word allah to be used as God in the bible, which needs to be rectified.

Olodo ni e. Is it Arab that wrote the bible?
Is it Arab that wrote Gideon bible as well because the word ALLAH is there?
Was He known as God then?

Go back to the post (Todak, We have unfinished business here). Northerners(Hausas) call God, Ubangiji, allah was a borrowed and substituted word just as islam dominaterd the north.

So babs, you can decieve all, only those who do not know are those who would fall to you series of blatant lies.

NLs have seen you as a liar. How could you be saying Northerners call him God? Daylight theft, liar. Even Davidylan cannot say that Hausas call him God.

You are not worth debating with because you have penchant for telling lies openly.

@Davidylan

Here he goes with his usual style of escaping issues:

Let me remind you of what you posted:

they used to pray towards jerusalem before, when the jews rebuffed them they started to face the east.

I asked you to furnish where they did that but you clouldnt but resorted to:

prove me wrong dude. Where are your own facts?

Are you up to the task? You know nothing when it comes to debating with BABS.

You are a big liar and yuou should supply me where JEWS rebuffed them, Liar, Olodo that cannot stand BABS when it comes to debate.

Barka Jumuah to my Brothers and Sisters

@Davidylan

1. Why dont we create a thread on YOUR doctrines? Why are you afraid to debate your own quran or even quote it? You love to rush to the bible dont you, hypocrite?

Please go ahead. I am all yours

2. You dont need to beg the moderators not to lock threads discussing oops sorry bashing christian doctrines, they end up on the front pages anyway. Its the islamic ones that get us banned and the threads locked and binned.

I need to because its strictly going to be for you, Todak, No2atheism and myself. We will go into the doctrines of christianity starting with Easter celebration.  I will soon create threads on your doctrines, you and your folks must not run away when the heat is on because I am going to open cankerworms on your false faith which I have not done before.

Do yourself, Todak, No2atheism permit me to create threads on your faith for ONLY FOUR OF US?

You didnt have to insult him why call him the spawn of a lair Huh

Please Mukina, leave him and his folks alone and I want to beg you not to lock thread rgardless of what they may be saying please please please.

Once again David, do you care if I create threads on your faith for you and your folks against myself?

@Davidyln

they used to pray towards jerusalem before, w[b]hen the jews rebuffed them[/b] they started to face the east.

Fact please and not spewing lies.

@NO2ATHEISM


Answer has been proved but if you are not satisfied, create a thread and we discuss

The Best Comprehensive Answer is "UNITY"

To Unite all Muslims towards One Direction i.e. the Ka'abah.

Whether you are rich, power, king, president, or saint, you must face this direction while you pray.

In my own opinion.