₦airaland Forum

Thanks for the info.

@Mukina

Babss

Thats my name

take your time o

Thanks very much. I am taking my time in spreading the good news to all especially Javalove

no one qualifies,ask your friend if he has skycrapers

He would build if you any and get you customised ride of your choice. It shows that you would be his if can grant your request and he would do more than that.

this your friend who he is he ? i nor sabi am o

You of course sabi am. I sabi am but others do not.

no all of you na . .berra start finding camels Senegal has deserts Gabon is far . infact start looking for private jet
Planning Nikkah? i am already married

So Javalove, you have heard it from her mouth now. She is married to us, so keep off. So Javalove can go to Senegal or Gabon and look for another Mukina

They will chase you . fighting for their Grandpa's interest

That Grandpa is no one else but my good friend . I like you because you are the optimistic type and please keep it, you have lots to enjoy from my friend unlike Javalove.

you sef na . javalove bribed you? hmmm

Yes o. Scroll down and read his post.

@RedHotchic

Apart from all you might have read in Nairaland, I am willing to start every grey area afresh with you, be it Islam or Christianity. Alhamdulillah, I was once a christian, so debating from that area would not be a problem. Let me know what you want us to discuss be it as a Muslim or as a Christian and I would back it up with verses from Quran, Bible, Hadith or Sunnah Insha Allah.

I raised a thread then on if truly Jesus died for our sins and Alhamdulillah, a brother reverted to Islam and it is not too late for you to accept the religion of Abraham, Isaac, Moses, all the prophets down to Jesus. Below was his response:

Now what, things just keep getting interesting here, I also ask myself this questions but when i ask my pastor all he can tell is "DO WHAT You SEE OTHERS DOING WHETHER IT RIGHT OR WRONG You CAN'T TELL UNTILL THE DAY YOU DIE, THATS WHY WE ARE IN CHURCH" so if it later turn to be contradictive we have another hope to depends on, so can someone please explain this in details befor its too late, peaceout

Finally:

Thanks Babs787 i can you have giving me some chances in life and have clear all my doubt, May the almighty ALLAh bless you and help all those that are bringing the truth to reality.
My thanks to you is: am going to be in my neighbour Mosque this coming friday to repent and embrace ISLAM as part of my life thanks
You can email me at: ousse_b@yahoo.com. Only BABS787

@Mukina

chei!! see this guys o . from Senegal to Gabon

Kai , it was a typographical error jare. I wanted to say a Sierraleonian Living in Gambia. Javalove and Uche, please take your time. I made mistake cos of you guys, how could I not know where my friend's wife is living, come off it guys

Ok . i am already married, so those planning to print Iv sorry I have 6 beautiful chudrens continue searching in Senegal and Gabon, you might see Mukinas there

Ok, you are right jare. So Javalove and Uche should keep off. She is already planning the Nikkah and the number of kids she would have for my friend and thank God you advised them to go to Gabon and Senegal to look for babes there

Babs you dey arrange your friend abi? take your time o . .You want my grandkids to chase you?

Chase me ke, no they would appreciate me for finding good suitor for their mother

do not mind Uche, the bros wants to give you all heart attack

I no dey mind two of them jare. Can you imagine Javalove, trying to bribe me because he knows that he don lose

@Javalove

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hahah hahaha hahaha hahahahah (laughing hard) hahah hahaha hahaha hahhaha (rolling on the floor) haha hahahaha hahahah hahahah (coughs) haha (coughs) (coughs) (coughs) haha hahah (coughs) haha hahaha (coughs) hahahh hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha (coughs with tears in eyes)

una no go kill me for this forum. Ok, mukina, i m coming over before babs and his friends snatch u away. when i get to senegal, i would just ask anybody "Do u know mukina?" or how do i go about it. I would start making enquiries for visa applications asap. but my businesss, i would hand over that to @babs to handle for me till i come back. babs visit www.jajitech.net.

I never wanted to reveal the secret but Uche did that. You thought that she is in Senegal but you got it wrong. So you would have just gone to Senegal hoping to see angel Mukina but would be shocked to hear that she is not living there but you would be paraded senegalese lady . Senegalese lady are religious and beautiful as well.

Before you could ever think of making any enquiries, I have got enough and undiluted information about her, where she stays and everything you need to know about her and how to get to her house in Gabon. Oga, so you can see that you have a slim chance of getting her .

Did I hear you say you would hand over your business to me? Hope you are not trying to bribe me into allowing you take Mukina. If you are trying to do that, its too late because my friend is preparing to print enough I.V . for the occasion (Nikkah) but if you are thinking of giving me the business for the sake of running it for me as a Muslim and brothers in faith, then you are secured, Allah would take absolute control over it. I perused the site and found it very ok and who knows your organisation may end up serving me as well as some of my friends and that would provide you the opportunity of seeing Mukina with my friend one on one

when we come back, no time wasting, Hakidu Nikkah straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oga, you had better not think of going anywhere because Alfas are getting set for the occasion. The Nikkah would have been concluded before you could think of purchasing ticket. It seems RedHotchich is available, you may go for her but as for Mukina baby, its a no-go area.


@Uche2nna


Hope you are not trying to come up with something because I read you saying that that she would be married to a Nigerian. Thank you very much if you and I are thinking and heading the same direction but if otherwise, OYO for you (On Your Own). Dont ever think that you could be a contender just because you know where is is domiciled.

It seems you are likely one of the spectators while Javalove is on the reserve bench. The bus is full already, so nowhere to sit or hang. Sorry pal, best of luck in your search for a Nigerian Baby or dont we have Nne again?

Takia all

@Davidylan


I have never seen a confused human being like you and a very treacherous person indeed. You couldnt profer rebuttal to his posts but decided to turn the table and divert to another issue 'faith'. Are you not ashamed of your long lost battle? Why not accept Islam and be saved. Mind you, I wanted to come in with regards to the 10 commandment as being what will aid you in gaining paradise in contrary to believing in the blood of a creation that couldnt save himself but didnt want to divert the topic. I wouldnt know where you got your fabricated doctrines from having read verses when Jesus plainly told a man to follow the commandments in he would gain eternal life and never told you to just believe in his blood and you would be saved.

In addition, without playing the game of dishonesty, you know that Paul kicked against most of the doctrines preached by OT prophets and even Jesus in which you could have seen some in those 10 commandments up.

In order not to deviate from the topic at hand. I leave you in the hands of my knowledgeable brother but would come in when I see you misrepresent biblical verses.

Good luck in your quest for truth (Islam)

@Javalove

Abi oooo my brother. She is intelligent oooo. I thought she was Nigerian. But don't worry. I'm nursing a dream and babs has told u not to be suprised if it happens. Anytime u think you're tired of senegal or u just want to tour africa, tour nigeria first. and when you're in nigeria, call me first!!!

Cant you pay her a visit rather than wait till she would be tired of her country and you should know know that calling you first would not guarantee you of first seeing her. My friends are waiting too and I dont think you have first shirt but on RESERVE BENCH

@Redhotchic

Sorry I don't see any deceit in christianity. It's people that are trying so hard to misinterpret th bible besides, you can't claim there are no deseivers in islam, can you?

I thought you are here really for a discussion after having read your contributions in romance section . Just give me a verse that I misinterpreted.

Get me the proof asap.

What would you do if I give you proof from your bible?

Faith and Trust in Allah



(If Allah touches you with affliction, none can remove it but He; if He touch you with happiness, He hath power over all things. He is the Omnipotent over His slaves; and He is the Wise, Acquainted with all things.) (Al-An`am 6:17-18)

We must have strong and deep faith and trust in Allah. Allah knows everything and He is with us wherever we are. He has power and might. He is wise and merciful. We should trust in Allah in all situations, whether happy or sad, whether successful or confronted with difficulties and problems.

Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) reported:

I was (once) behind the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) when he said to me, “Boy, I teach you (a few) words: Remember Allah, and He will protect you. Remember Allah (observing His commands and avoiding His prohibitions), and you will find Him close to you. When you have to ask for something, ask of Allah. When you seek help, seek Allah’s help. Believe firmly that if all the creation desires to benefit you in anything, they can never benefit you, but that which Allah has decreed for you. If they all unite to harm you, they will not be able to harm you in anything, but that which Allah has decreed for you.” (At-Tirmidhi)

These are important words. They are part of our faith as Muslims. We believe in one God. We are the people of tawheed (monotheism). Tawheed affects our lives, our personalities, and our behavior. It gives us the following:

1. Dignity and Self-Esteem

A believer in tawheed knows that Allah alone is the possessor of all power and none besides Him can benefit or harm a person, provide for his needs, give or take away life, or wield authority or influence. This makes a person independent and highly dignified. Such a person would not disgrace himself by bowing in homage to any creature, or begging anyone else. Such a person is not overawed by any person’s greatness. A person of tawheed has great determination, patience and perseverance. He is unshaken by any difficulty. He relies on Allah and places his trust in Allah. When such a person makes up his mind and devotes to do Allah’s commands, he has full confidence in the support of the most powerful Lord.

2. Modesty and Humbleness

A believer in tawheed knows that Allah is the ultimate power and only Allah controls everything. Whatever one has is given by Allah. Allah can take away just as He can give. He knows that whatever happens in this world, big or small, good or evil, advantage or disadvantage, success or loss, increase or decrease, life or death, richness or poverty, health or sickness, everything happens by the will of Allah. A believer in tawheed cannot be arrogant and self conceited because he believes that his merits or achievements are not due to his own worth, they are gifts from Allah. Such a person is always thankful to Allah and recognizes how much he depends upon Allah.

3. Morality, Tolerance and Open-Mindedness

The believer in tawheed is always morally upright. All his standards come from one and the same authority, the authority of Allah. He does not have double or multiple standards. There is only one Lord and the Lord treats all people equally. The rules of Allah are universal and they are applicable to all people in all places. A believer in tawheed knows that Allah has created everything in this universe, and every thing and every being belongs to Allah. This makes a person very open minded, tolerant, and caring. Sometimes people say that monotheism makes people intolerant, but we say that this is the most tolerant and compassionate belief system. Because we do not believe that this thing belongs to our God and that thing belongs to some other god. It is polytheism and atheism that divide the people and create intolerance and dissentions, not tawheed.

4. Ultimate Peace and Contentment

The belief in tawheed purges the mind of jealousy, envy, and greed, and keeps away the temptation of resorting to base and unfair means for achieving success. The believer has faith that everything is in the hand of Allah. Honor, power, reputation, authority, and everything are under His control and He gives to whomever He wills. The duty of the human being is to struggle, to do good, and to trust in Allah.

The Excellence of Friday
Imam Ibn ul Qayyim al Jawziyyah

Abu Huraira reported the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, as saying: ‘The best day on which the sun has risen is Friday; on it Adam was created, on it he was made to enter Paradise , on it he was expelled from it. And the Last Hour will take place on no day other than Friday.’ The Holy Prophet also said on the occasion of Friday: ‘We who are the last shall be the first on the Day of resurrection, except that every Ummah (nation) was given the Book before us and we where given it after them. It was this day (Friday) which Allah prescribed for us and guided us to it and the people came after us with regard to it, the Jews observing the next day and the Christians the day following that.’ With regard to Friday, the Holy Prophet was also reported as saying: ‘There is no time on Friday at which no Muslim would stand, pray and beg Allah for what is good but He would give it to him’ and he pointed with his hand that (this time) is short and narrow. There is a good deal of difference of opinion among the scholars as to what exactly is that fortunate hour on Friday when the supplication would be granted. The best course is that this hour should be treated as hidden, and the whole day should be spent in supplication and glorification of Allah. It was the Holy Prophet’s practice to attach special significance and honour to Friday. Examples of this behaviour are numerous, however, the following could be cited: On that day, he recommenced reciting Soorah as-Sajdah (in fajr) [and al-Insaan] because it is inclusive of all affairs relevant to Friday; taking a bath, using perfume and miswak, going to Friday’s congregational prayer early, listening to the sermon, wearing one’s best clothes and remembering Allah all the time. When the Holy Prophet stood on the pulpit delivering Friday speech (sermon), his eyes would redden and his voice rise sharply with extreme anger. He, however, used to shorten the speech but prolong the prayer following it.

Barka Da Jumah.

@Islamway

Like I told you, be bold for a discusion and not ferreting lies without being able to prove it. If you are ready for a sincere debate, please signify.

@Javalove

can u guys brief me on the fasting for this month. i want to fast too

'Allahumma baa-rik-lanaa fee-rajaba wa sha'baana wa bal-lig-naa shah-ra ramadhaana.'

'O Allah, make the months of Rajab and Shabaan blessed for us, and let us reach the month of Ramadhan.'

Reference to Fasting in Rajab -If someone has fasted for three days during the sacred months, on a Thursday, a Friday and a Saturday, Allah will credit him with the worshipful service [ibadah] of 900 years!

Fasting in Rajab ones drinks from a River of Paradise called Rajab Only for those who observed fasting in Rajab also a palace for Only those whose frequntly fasted in Rajab.

Grave punishment will be stopped if one fasts only day of Rajab

In order to enter Ramadhaan in the best possible manner, one has to prepare himself in the months of Rajab and Shabaan. It has been said that Rajab is the month to sow seeds (good actions), Shabaan is the month in which we should water those seeds (with tears of sorrow) and Ramadhaan is the month in which we reap the harvest.

, " It is most important, however, that none of you should neglect the First Friday in Rajab, for it is the night that the angels call the Night of [the Granting of] Wishes [Lailat ar-Ragha'ib]. This is because, by the time the first third of the night has elapsed, there will not be a single angel still at large in the heavens, nor in any region of the earth bar one. They will all be gathered together in the Ka'ba and the area immediately surrounding it. Allah (Exalted is He) will condescend to notice that they have assembled there, and He will say: "My angels, ask Me for whatever you wish!" Their response to this will be: "Our Lord, the request we wish to make is that You grant forgiveness to those who faithfully keep the fast in Rajab," whereupon Allah (Exalted is He) will tell them: "That I have already done!"

Then Allah's Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:

" No one will go unrewarded if he fasts during the daytime on Thursday, the first Thursday in Rajab.

The month of Rajab is a glorious month indeed. If someone has fasted for one day in Rajab, Allah (Exalted is He) will record it in his credit column as the fast of a thousand years.

If someone has fasted for two days in Rajab, Allah (Exalted is He) will record it in his credit column as the fast of two thousand years.

If someone has fasted for three days in Rajab, Allah (Exalted is He) will record it in his credit column as the fast of three thousand years.

If someone has fasted for seven days in Rajab, all the seven gates of Hell [Jahannam] wil be locked to make sure that he stays out of it.

If someone has fasted for eight days in Rajab, al the eight gates of the Garden of Paradise will be held open for him, so that he may enter by whichever gate he chooses.

If someone has fasted for fifteen days in Rajab, all his bad deeds will be replaced by good deeds, and a crier will call out from heaven above: "Allah has now forgiven you, so use the opportunity to set about good work anew!"

Traditional Reports Concerning the Sacred Month of Rajab

According to a report transmitted by 'Ikrima, on the authority of Ibn 'Abbas (may Allah be well pleased with him and with his father), the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) once said:

Rajab is Allah's month, Sha'ban is my month and Ramadan is the month of my Community.

Allah's Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) is also reported as having said:

In the Garden of Paradise there is a river called Rajab, whiter than milk and sweeter than honey. If someone has fasted for one day during the month of Rajab, Allah will let him quench his thirst by drinking from that river.

Anab ibn Malik (may Allah be well pleased with him) is reported as having said: "In the Garden of Paradise there is a palace that no one may enter, with the exception of someone who makes a frequent practice of fasting during the month of Rajab."

According to another traditional report, also transmitted on the authority of Anas [ibn Malik] (may Allah be well pleased with him), Allah's Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) once said:

If someone has fasted for three days during the sacred months, on a Thursday, a Friday and a Saturday, Allah will credit him with the worshipful service [ibada] of nine hundred years!

The Merit of Fasting During the 27th Day of Rajab

The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) once said:

If someone keeps the fast on the 27th day of Rajab, he will be credited with the same reward as that which is earned by fasting for sixty months.

It was on the 27th day of Rajab, we are told, that Gabriel first came down to invest the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) with his Messengership [Risala].

@Redhotchics

Give me one good reason why I should dump christianity for Islam and am all yours?

You must have read lots about the two religion and questions raised with regards to the two religion. Truth stands from falsehood except those than want to deceive themselves. I for one was like you and I have debated all areas in christianity, which they have been using to decieve and lure people into believing that God revealed the religion or Jesus was a christian and stuff like that. If you are really wiling to be a muslim, you and I can discuss issues like deity of Jesus, Sonship of Jesus, his alleged crucifixion/resurrection, dying for christians' sins, being the saviour etc with proof from your bible.

Question:
Can you shed some light on islam and it's concept called Fatwa?

A fatwa is an Islamic religious ruling, a scholarly opinion on a matter of Islamic law.

A fatwa is issued by a recognized religious authority in Islam. But since there is no hierarchical priesthood or anything of the sort in Islam, a fatwa is not necessarily "binding" on the faithful. The people who pronounce these rulings are supposed to be knowledgable, and base their rulings in knowledge and wisdom. They need to supply the evidence from Islamic sources for their opinions, and it is not uncommon for scholars to come to different conclusions regarding the same issue.

As Muslims, we look at the opinion, the reputation of the person giving it, the evidence given to support it, and then decide whether to follow it or not. When there are conflicting opinions issued by different scholars, we compare the evidence and then choose the opinion to which our God-given conscience guides us.

Islamic law is based upon four main sources: the Qu'ran itself, the Sunnah or practices of the Prophet Muhammad; Ijma' or the consensus of Muslim scholars; and Qiyas or new case law decided upon by Shari'ah judges.

So what area do you want us to talk on?

lol and who told u dreams don't come true? Why u dey buzz me off am abi our ustaz sef get (clears throught). . .

I'm proud to me a muslim!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bye to Facebook and Hi5. I;m loving this place. May Alla reward all of us and e we all jam ourselves in paradise.

Amin. I love you all for the sake of Allah.


@Mukina

You will say una no go kill me not una no kill me meaning that you would not kill me. You are very intelligent. People would think that you are a Nigerian through your post and don't be surprised that you would end up being a Nigerian by marriage

May Allah reward all of you. when i read @olabowale, @mokina, @mustay, @babs or @littleeb's post, i always wish i was the one writing them wish i was as knowledgeable as u guys. May Allah grant u all Al-janah Firdaus and me too.

Allahu Amin. I feel great. Thats Islam for you. It gives room for research and enlightenement. You study the Quran, Hadith and Sunnah and apply it daily rather than listening to what you are being told by any leader without verificaton. Islam is practical and without being biased, Islam solves whatever kinda problem one may be having.

I will die as a Muslim Insha Allah.



@Pastor AIO

Please feel free to ask any question on Islam.

Is Obafemi Martins a muslim too?

@Davidylan

I long for the day Berean christians will rise up again, willing to study their bibles rather than take Paul's words hook, line and sinker.

Hope you noted your highlighted response?

@Javaalove

You are just a dreamer. You better go to Pakistani or Indiana singles and look for your em em there

Thanks moderators for helping me pose the topic of the thread very well.



@Mdsocks

thanks bro babs,

what about a so called islamic site which supports masturbation?


just be careful and watch out when going through some of them,

Salam brother. Nice to have you back. Hope all is well. May Allah continue to be with you

Pastor AIO

A sallam aleikum my muslim friends. I have a few questions for you.  I especially hope that Olabowale will be able contribute to this.  

I have only recently started a study of the Koran and islam in general.  I have come up with a bone of contention.  The 5 pillars.  Why the emphasis on these ostensible actions?  I thought a pillar was a construct designed to hold up an edifice.   What can these 5 pillars hold up?  Surely not Islam (ie. submission).

First the Shahadah.  I declare that there is no God but Allah and muhammad is his prophet. Anybody can make this declaration without it amounting to nada.  Indeed al-baqarah verse 8 states that "and of the people are some who say, 'we believe in Allah and the last day,' but they are not believers".

And the Salah?  Who can not go through the motions of that?  

Zakah?  Many atheists are philanthropists.

Sawm.  Many People are already doing this not even by choice.

Hajj:   If Hajj was a pillar that could hold up anything then all those alhaji and alhajas in nigeria would be exemplary citizens.  

Shouldn't Islam be based on One Pillar and One pillar only.  Namely Al-fitra.  Is this not the perfect prayer, worship and obedience to God there could ever be?  Is this not the essence of Islam?
“See you not that it is God Whose praises are celebrated by all beings in the heavens and on earth, and by the birds with extended wings?  Each one knows its prayer and glorification; And God is aware of what they do.”  An-Nur vs.41

Is it not true that we are born in this state?  That the animals are in this state ( the flying birds as the koran says are already there).  As long as birds fly and don't try to bark like dogs they are in the state of Islam.  It is my belief that every human being has a blueprint, or a script of his life as it were that is the law that God has laid down for him to live by.  It is the purpose of religion to discover, or rather rediscover that Essence and adhere to it like your life depended on it and indeed your life does depend on it.  I do not know of any religion anywhere in the world that doesn't teach this.  There are many that de-emphasise it but if you research deeply enough you will find that that is at the core and essence of the religion.  The Return to Essential nature is the core of Religion.
“So direct your face towards the religion, inclining to Truth. Adhere to the Fitra of Allah upon which he has created all people.  NO CHANGE should there by in the creation of Allah. That is the CORRECT RELIGION but most of the people do not know.” Ar-Rum vs.30

Nobody can fake the Adherence to Fitra.  That is between man and God and if a person is not aligned to his true nature the consequences are immediate and obvious. I am of the understanding that the 5 pillars are not even in the quran.  I need someone to explain to me what exactly the Al-hadith is and on what is it's authority based?  
Will the 5 pillars really bring you closer to Al-fitra, which the koran calls the 'Correct religion'?  Can they not indeed even serve as a substitute for al-fitra/truth whereby a person thinks that he is doing all that is required merely by following the motions of the 5 pillars?  Please share your thoughts with me.

Thanks for the question Pastor AIO. I am even for your reading the Quran and you should feel free to ask any question.I have decided to give you part of my response from one of the threads (salvation in Islam) because it answers most of your highlighted post. Take time to read and when you are through, I will welcome any question from you.

Salvation can be found only in Islam. It is the religion of nature and the only religion that Allah recognizes and going to accept from mankind.

Quran 3 v 85: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter, he will be in the ranks of those who have lost.

Quran 3 v 91;Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in th Ayat (proofs, evidences, signs, revelations etc) of Allah, then surely, Allah is swift in caling to account.

Other religions derive their names after their leaders eg chris – Christian, budha – budhaism, tao – Taoism, sango – onisango, oshun – oloshun etc but the name Islam is given by Allah thus:

Quran 5 v 3 …This day! I have perfected your religion, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.

Quran 22 v 78: …It is he who named you Muslims both before and in this (the Quran), that the Messenger (Muhammed saw) may be a witness over you and you be witness over mankind.

Salvation is found alone by being a muslim. There is nothing as good as sleeping as muslim in the night and waking up as a muslim in the following morning. The Holy Prophet said that all muslims will enter paradise except those that refuse. When asked that who are those that will refuse? He said those that will refuse are those that do not follow the Quran and the Sunnah.

In getting salvation, one need to first understand why man is created. Allah tells us in the Holy Quran thus:

Quran 51 v 56: And I (Allah) created not the Jinn and mankind except that they should worship me (alone).

From the above verse, it can be seen that Allah created us solely for the purpose of worshipping Him, meaning that you cannot get salvation without worshipping Him which is the essence of creating mankind. The next question is how do we worship Him? we worship Him only through Solat (Prayer)

Quran 4 v 103: When you have finished As-Salat (the congregational prayer), remember Allah standing, sitting down, and (lying down) on your sides, but when you are free from danger, perform As-Salat, verily As-Salat (the prayer) is enjoined on the believers at fixed hours.

Quran 24 v 56: And perform As-Salat (the prayer) and give Zakat and obey the Messenger that you may receive mercy.[b][/b]

Quran 5 v 6: O you who believe! When you intend to offer As-Salat (the prayer), wash your faces and your hands (forearms) up to the elbows, rub (by passing wet hands over) your heads, and (wash) your feet up to the ankles. If you are in a state of Janabah ( i.e after a sexual discharge), purify yourselves (bathe your whole body). But if you are ill or on a journey, or any of you comes after answering the call of nature, or you have been in contact with women (i.e sexual intercourse), and you find no water, then perform Tayammum with clean earth and rub therewith your faces and hands. Allah does not want to place you in difficulty, but He wants to purify you, and to complete His favour to you that you may be thankful.

# The superiority of ablution, and Al-Ghurr-Ul-Muhajjalun (the parts of the body of the Muslims washed in ablution will shine on the Day of Resurrection and the Angels will call them by that name) from the traces of ablution

# Narrated Nu’aim Al-Mujmir: Once I went up the roof of the Mosque along with Abu Hurrairah (RA). He performed ablution and said, ‘I heard the prophet (saw) saying, “on the Day of Resurrection, my followers will be called Al-Ghurr-Ul-Muhajjalun from the traces of ablution and whoever can increase the are of his radiance should do so (by performing ablution in the most perfect manner)

# The prophet did not increase the area more than what is washed of the body parts while doinbg ablution as Allah ordered to be washed in the Quran.

Tayammum: Strike your hands on the earth and then pass the palm of each on the back of the other and then blow off the dust from them and then pass (rub) them on your face.

Quran 2 v 238: Guard strictly ( five obligatory) As-Salawat (the prayers) especially the middle solat (i.e the best prayer – Asr). And stand befor Allah with obedience (and do not speak to others during the Salat (prayer).

Quran 11 v 114: And perform As-Slat at the two ends of the day and in some hours of the night (i.e the five compulsory solat. Verily, the good deeds remove the evil deeds (i.e small sins), that is a reminder (an advice) for the mindful (those who accept advice)

# Narrated Ibn Mas’us (RA). A man kissed a woman and then came to Allah Messenger and told him that. So this Divine Revelation was revealed to the prophet “the good deeds remove the evil deeds (i.e small sins), that is a reminder (an advice) for the mindful (those who accept advice)”. The man said, ‘is this instruction for me only? The prophet said, ‘it is for all those of my followers who encounter a similar situation’

#Narrated Abu Dhar (RA)  Allah’s Messenger said to me (a) be afraid of Allah and keep your duty to Him wherever you may be (b) and follow up the evil deeds with the good deeds, verily, the good deeds remove (blot out) the evil deeds (c) and (treat) behave with the people in a high standard of character.

Quran 17 v 78: perform As-Salat from Mid-day till the darkness of the night (i.e the Zuhr, Asr, Maghrib, Isha prayers) and recite the Quran in the early dawn (i.e the morning prayer). Verily the recitation of the Quran in the early dawn is ever witnessed (attended by the angels in chsrge of mankind of the day and night)

V 79: and in some parts of the night (also) offer the solat (prayer) with it (i.e rcite the Quran in the prayer), as an additional prayer (Thajjud optional prayer) for you (O Muhammed saw). It may be that your Lord will raise you to a station of praise and glory i.e th honour of intercession on the Day of Resurrection.

(a)

Narrated by Ibn Umar: On the Day of Resurrection, the people will fall on their knees and every nation will follow their prophet and they will say, o-so-and-so! Intercede (for us with Allah)”, till the (right of) intercession will be given to the Prophet (saw) and that will be the day when Allah will raise him to a station of praise and glory i.e the honour of intercession

(b)

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah. Alla’s Messenger said, ‘whoever after listening to the Adhan (call for the prayer) says, ‘O Allah, the Lord of the complete call and of this prayer, which is going to be established. Give Muhammed Al-Wasilah and Al-Fdilah and raise him to a station of intercession for him on the Day of Resurrection.

Al-Wasilah is the highest position in Paradise which is granted to the prophet Muhammed particularly. Al-Fadilah is the extra degree of honour which is bestowed in him above all creation.

Quran 20 v 30: So bear patiently (O Muhammed) what they say, and glorify the praises of your Lord before the rising of the sun, and before its setting, and during some hours of the night, and at the ends of the day (an indication for the five compulsory congregational prayers) that you may become pleased with the reward which Allah shall give you.

Quran 2 v 277: Truly, those who believe and do deeds of righteousness and perform As-Salat and give Zakat, they will have their reward with their Lord. On them shall be no fear , nor shall they grieve.

Quran 8 v 2: The believers are only those who, when Allah is mentioned, feel a fear in their hearts and when this verse (this Quran) are recited unto them, they (i.e the verses) increase their faith, and they put their trust in their Lord (alone)

V 3: who perfom As-Salat, spend out of what we have provided them.

V 4: It is they who are the believers in truth. For them are grade of dignity with their Lord, and forgiveness and a generous provision (paradise)

Quran 9 v 71: The believers, men and women, are helpers, supporters, friends, protectors of one another, they enjoin on the people Islamic monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do and forbid people from Polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all that Islam has forbidden, they perform As-Salat and give Zakat, and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will have His mercy on them. Surely, Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

Quran 27 v 1-3; …These are the verses of the Quran and (it is) a Book (that makes things) clear.

V 2; A guide (to the Right Path) and glad tidings for thr believers (who believe in the oneness of Allah)

V 3: Those who perform As-Salat and give Zakat and they believe with certainty in the Hereafter (resurrectin, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell).
Quran 31 v 2-5; These are the verses of the Wise Book (the Quran)

V 3: A guide and a mercy for the good doers

V 4: Those who perform As-Salat and give Zakat and they have faith in the Hereafter with certainty.

V 5: Such are the guidance from their Lord, and such are the successful

Quran 4 v 103: …Salat is enjoined on all believers at fixed hours.

Muslim relates on the authority of Uthman (RA) that the prophet said, “whenever an obligatory solat-time comes to any Muslim, and he carries out his ablution, his humility and his bowing properly, these things atone for all his previous sins [with the exception of mortal ones], and this holds true for all time.

After faith in God, which releases one from unbelief, there is no act of worship finer and mor exalted than the solat, the abandonment of which God’s messenger termed unbelief.

Quran 3 v 31: Say (O Muhammed saw) to mankind, ‘If you (really) love Allah, then follow me (i.e Islamic monotheism, follow the Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, most Merciful.

Quran 2 v 186: And when my slaves ask you (O Muhammed) concerning me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them by my knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey me and believe in Me, so that thy may be led aright.

# Narrated  Abu Hurrairah: Allah’s Messenger said, ‘ I will declare war against him who shows hostility to a pious worshipper of mine. And the most beloved things with which my slaves come nearer to me, is what I have enjoined upon him, and my slaves keep on coming closer to Me through performing Nawafil (praying or doing extra deeds besides what is obligatory) till I love him. Then I become his sense of hearing with which he hears and his sense of sigh with which he sees and his hand with which he asks for my protection (refuge). I will protect him (i.e give him my refuge) and I do not hesitate to do anything as I hesitate to take the soul of the believer, for he hates death and I hate to disappoint him.

Quran 8 v 29: O you who believe! If you obey and fear Allah, He will grant you Furqan (criterion to judge between right and wrong) or Makhraj (i.e a way for you to get out from every difficulty) and will expiate for you your sins, and forgive you. And Allah is the owner of the Great Bounty.

In addition, Allah in some verses apart from the above, tells us the qualities of a believer and the reward for such a believer whch is paradise.

Quran 2 v 2-5: This is the Book (the Quran), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are the pious and righteous, who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which he has ordained)

V 3: Who believe in the Ghaub (unseen i.e Belief in Allah, Angels, Holy Books, Allah’s Messengers, Day of Resurrection and All-Qadar) and perform  As-Salat  and spend out of what we have provided for them (i.e give Zakat, spend on themselves, their parents, children, wives etc and also give charity to the poor and also in Allah’s cause – Jihad)

V 4: And who believe in (the Quran and th Sunnah) which has been sent down to you (the Torah and the Gospels) and they believe with certainty in the Hereafter (Resurrection, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell).

V 5: They are in (true) guidance from their Lord, and they are the successful!

Quran 33 v 47: And announce to the believers (in the oneness of Allah and in His Messenger) the glad tidings, that they will have from Allah a Great Bounty.

From the above verses, it is seen that there is no paradise for a non-muslim and the only way you can gain salvation/paradise is be becoming a muslim. In all honesty, it will be very hard for muslims to enter hell and very easy for them to go to paradise. In solat alone, you have 27 times reward in a congregational prayer, we pray 5 times daily (excluding the Nawafil) which is supposed to be 50 daily prayers but Muhammed (saw) got it reduced by Allah from 50 to 5 through Moses. Allah then said that the reward for the 5 daily prayers will be the reward for the 50 prayers given earlier. Now using human calculation, we have 50 (27 x number of rewards per day), and we still have superogatory prayers too in which only Allah knows how He will calculate the reward.

Every man has two angels, one by his right and the other by his left. If he does a good deed, the angel on the right hand rushes and write it for him as 10 deeds, while if the man does a bad deed, Allah grants him time to repent until the scribe register the sin in his name. The prophet said, ‘the scribe on the left hand delays registering the sin of a Muslim for six hours. If he repents (within the six hours) and seeks Allah’s forgivennes, the sin is dropped off. If he doesn’t, it is written down for him as a single sin”. But even if it is registered, if the man repents sincerely before that hour (appearance of death), the sin is taken off the records then.

Furthermore, we have the branches of faith too in which the highest and the best is to declare tha tthere is no god but Allah and the lowest is to remove something harmful from the road. Shyness too is a branch of faith.

Muslims relates hadith on the authority of Uthman ibn Affan, ‘whoever dies knowing that there is no deity but Allah shall enter into Paradise.

This may of course, be after a period of punishment in Hell, in proportion to one’s sin]

It is God’s will that all people shall have the possibility of salvation, He has sent Prophets to every nation

Quran 13 v 77: For every nation there has been a guide
Quran 35 v 24: There is not a single community among whom a warner has not passed.

We do not know about all of them but

Quran 4 v 164: Some Messengers, we have spoken to you, and others we haven’t

As time passes, the original message of each prophet is distorted or lost entirely, and it becomes necessary for a new prophet to appear. Since Islam is the last religion, God has preserved its message from corruption: the doctrines, social attitudes, and methods of worship which Muslims recognize today are the same as those taught by the prophets.

I have talked on the reward for Solat, and believing in the oneness of Allah, so I will now move to Zakat

Quran 98 v 5: They were enjoined only to worship Alah, sincere in their faith in Him alone and of upright religion and to establish the Solat and the Zakat. Such is the upright religion.

# For anyone why pays Zakat on his asstes, he will be removed from the evil in thm (purify their wealth)

# I swear upon three things: Allah does not equate one who has a portion in Islam with one who does not. The portions are prayer; fasting and Zakat.

The cornerstone of the Islamic economic system is the Zakat. In an authentically Muslim society, the level of government intervention is insignificant by comparison with the situation under secular materialism, whether socialist or capitalist, since a society whose members know that they are answerable to God is largely self-regulating, spontaneous charity, channeled particularly through the family structure, renders poverty and homelessness a rarity. Nonetheless, the small levy called Zakat is taken from certain categories of liquid and investment assets, to provide for those whose families are for whatever reason – unable to support them. These funds are also used for purposes such as the liberation of slaves, and returning impoverished travelers to their countries of origin.

On fasting

Whoever fasts in the month of Ramadhan, obeying all of its limitations and guarding himself against what is forbidden, has in fact atoned for any sins he committed before it.

Whoever fasts in the month of Ramadhan with faith and seeks Allah’s pleasure and reward will have his previous sins forgiven

Muslims fast on Mondays because the prophet do fast on Mondays, it’s the day he was born and there is reward for fasting on that day.

Muslims fast on Thursdays too because the prophet fasts on Thursdays, it’s the day he received salvation, etc and there is reward for it.

Also during the month of Ramadhan, there is a particular night called Night of Majesty in which the Holy Quran was revealed. Any action done therein is better than 1,000 months. So if you are able to witness that day, that day alone is enough for you to gain paradise because you may not be able to do any deeds that will have the same reward as the 1,000 months. Besides there is no assurance that one may live up to 1,000 months with his/her present age.

In addition, fasting for 6 days in the month of Shaban (the month after Ramadhan) will be like you have fasted for a year and earn reward for same.

On pilgrimage to Mecca

The reward for Hajj is Paradise.

Hajj removes all sins committed before and returns someone as a new born baby.

We also learnt that all the prophets right from to the last prophet (saw) came with one religion, one message which is the Islam and ones of Allah. Let us ask ourselves a question: can God give two prophets two different religions? No far from that, Allah made it known that all the prophets came with the same religion which is Islam. Their coming and going is like a baton in which a prophets takes over from another with the same message.

[b]Quran 42 v 13: He (Allah) has ordained for you the same religion (Islamic monotheism) which He ordained for Noah, and that which we have revealed to you (O Muhammed saw) and that which we ordained for Abraham, Moses, and Jesus saying YOU SHOULD ESTABLISH RELIGION (i.e to do what it orders you to do practically) AND MAKE NO DIVISIONS IN IT (religion)

Quran 2 v 130: And who turns away from the religion of Abraham (Islamic monotheism) except him who befols himself. Truly, we chose him in this world and verily in the Hereafter, he will be among the righteous.

V 131: When His Lord said to him, ‘submit (i.e be a muslim). He said, ‘I have submitted myself (as a muslim) to the Lord of the mankind, jinn and all that exists.

V 132: And this (submission to Allah, Islam) was enjoined by Abraham upon his sons and by Jacob (saying), ‘o my sons! Allah has chosen for you the (true) religion, then die not except in the faith of Islam (as muslims)

V 135: And they say, ‘be jews or Christians, then you be guided’. Say (to them O Muhammed saw), ‘nay, (we follow) only the religion of Abraham (Islam) to worship none but Allah and he was not one of the Mushrikin.

V 136: Say (O Muslims), ‘we believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and to Al-Asbat (the offspring of the twelve sons of Jacob) and that which has been given to Moses and Jesus and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord, WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN ANY OF THEM and to Him we have submitted (IN ISLAM).

Quran 3 v 83: Do they seek other than the religion of Allah (Islam) while in Him submitted all creatures in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly. And to Him shall they all be returned.

V 84: Say (O Muhammed saw), ‘we believe in Allah and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the offspring of the tweve sons of Jacob and what was given to Moses, Jesus and the Prophets from their Lord. WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN ONE ANOTHER AMONG THEM and to Him 9Allah) we have submitted (in Islam).[/b]

Muhammed is the last and the seal of all prophets in which no prophet will come after him and no book will be revealed after him.

Quran 33 v 40: Muhammed (saw) is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the last (end) of the prophets. And Allah is Ever-All Aware of everything.

@Redhotchic

Are you talking about the apocalypse? Besides, some religious groups that front as christians are not christians because they use their own special book they call bible even though they have an agenda eg, Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, seventh day adventists etc.

I am not even talking about the apocalype but read below for knowledge

If the bible is complete, where are these verses in Revised Standard Version, Good News Bible, New International Bible, Living Bible Versions and other bibles apart from KJV

a.Mathew 17 v 21
(b) mark 11 v 26
(c) acts 8 v 37
(d) Mathew 17 v 21
(e) Mathew 21 v 44
(f) Mathew 23 v 14


I didnt even bother giving you mentioned boos but not present and later insetion of some verses missing in old publications. So do justice to the above verses please

I need two things from you:

ok.

1. The verses where Jesus Christ is referred to as Isa

What was his name in Aramaic?

2. why Islamists try so hard to incorporate Jesus in their lists of prophets when Christians are not even interested in their own,

Was he a prophet?
Was he a christian?

Do you wonder why Islam recognised Jesus in the koran while christianity didn't recognise mohammad in the bible? Defuse the complex abeg or join the band

Your authors even recognised that he is in your bible but your pride prevented you from accepting the truth

Salam brothers and sisters in faith.

Please beware of sites listed below. The sites have been de eloped by enemies of Islam to spread wrong information about Islam, Quran, Hadith.

Endeavor to check the authenticity and source of any purported Islamic websites before reading through


Below are some of anti-Islamic websites


List of anti Islaamic sites and Exposé of 3 sites posting false convert stories

Exposé of three sites posting false convert stories

1. http://www.islamreview.com

This site has posted fake stories of how Muslims converted to Christianity. How do I know? Read the following excerpt from one of the stories:

First the 'convert' says: (emphasis added)
In the end, I managed to convince my mother, as it was for Allah and I joined the Islamic College. Having graduated as an ustaz, I was soon posted to my neighbourhood…

And then:
My trip to Mecca for the Haj (pilgrimage) was tiring but eventful. I did not have the rare opportunity to see inside the holy Kabah and the holy idols inside, which Prophet Muhammud had helped to place, as explained in Bukhari’s Hadith

An Ustaz (scholar) in Islaamic Studies is saying that there are idols inside the Kabah and that too placed by Muhammad (saw) himself!?!?!

This clearly shows that the author is deliberately trying to spread misinformation about Islaam and wants to convey to possible reverts to Islaam that it is religion of idol worship.

In fact most of the Christian sites use this tactic of false convert stories but it's not always possible to prove it


2. http://www.faithfreedom.org/

AlhamduliLlaah I was able to catch another site posting fake stories of Muslims leaving Islaam. See the false information imparted here. That the attempt is deliberate is known through the claim that the 'convert' has done detailed study about the topic.
For Islamic Education, I had to study about marriage in detail to do well. So, I learnt all the stuff and got the highest grade anyone can get for Islamic Education. And guess what? Because I know it so well, I know that there is a lot of discrimination against women in Islam. Things like a father and grandfather can marry a girl/woman to whomever they want even if the girl/woman doesn’t want to marry that person… In addition, I learned things like women couldn’t be witnesses in Syariah Courts and things like that

The first point here is a total lie whereas the second is a distorted version of the truth.


3. http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/younathan.html

Here's yet another extract from a false convert story aimed at spreading misinformation about Islaam.

As I started thinking about my life and the Quran, I realized all Muslims, even the prophet Muhammad, would go to Hell for certain sins they committed in their lifetime.

This is a common ploy of the Christian Missionaries. They first inform gullible victims that Jesus (God) is Love and just by believing in the Crucifixion, you will be assured of Paradise. Whereas the concept of God in Islaam is so harsh that no one will be spared from Hell and that even Prophet Muhammad (saw) was not sure of where he would end up. For this purpose they quote an ayat of the Qur'aan out of context. Here there have gone a step further by saying that even our beloved Prophet (saw) would have to go through hell. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Anti Islaamic Sites under misleading names

4. http://www.muslimhope.com/

5. http://www.islameyat.com/

6. http://www.islamreview.com

7. http://www.muhammadanism.com/

8. http://thespiritofislam.com/index.html

9. http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/

10. http://www.gnfcw.com/

11. http://www.knowislam.info/drupal/mno

12. http://www.homa.org/

13. http://www.thequran.com

14. http://www.Allahassurance.com

15. http://www.mosque.com

16. http://thespiritofislam.com/index.html

17. http://www.newislam.org/

Anti Islaamic Sites apparent even by name

18. http://www.islam-exposed.org/

19. http://answering-islam.org.uk/

20. http://www.answeringinfidels.com

21. http://www.islamundressed.com/

22. http://www.studytoanswer.net/myths_ch1.html

23. http://www.challenging-islam.org/submissions/shariah.htm

24. www.answering-islam.org

25. http://www.islamundressed.com

26. http://www.exmuslim.com/

27. http://www.answeringinfidels.com

28. http://www.gnfcw.com/

29. http://www.dhimmi.com/

30. http://www.chick.com/information/religions/islam/

31. http://www.acage.org/

32. http://www.apostatesofislam.com/

33. http://www.secularislam.org/

34. http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/

35. http://www.icapi.org/

36. http://www.hesetsfree.org/

37. http://www.letusreason.org/Islamdir.htm

38. http://www.kafirnation.com/

39. http://www.jihadwatch.org

40. http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

41. http://apostatesofislam.com/

42. http://challenging-islam.org/


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my bro, nothing else to say. this is just critical reasoning. Abdulazeez the son of samuel. let see how he answers this. Saamuueelliii kiriyo

Wey Samuel Abdulazeez now . You need to respond to these posts

@Mukina

Ameen na'ala
Thanks
hehehe that plan sha wish you good luck as long as its not me

Are you trying to say that you cannot marry a Nigerian?

@Maureen

lady thanks luff nw i think olabowale
can shut up

What is your problem sister? Why cant you hold on and allow your sister to finish and see if I would not respond and ask her questions on TRINITY?

Please Lady call my attention when you are through so that I would have time to reply to each post InSha Allah (Gods willing)

@Redhotchic

There are standard bibles used by christians and those ones were only translated to different languages and not doctored eg KJV, NKJV, NIV etc. Doctoring means adding and removing lots of crucial information from the bible. I've never seen Isa in the bible before but all I ask for is the chapter and verse in case am ignorant.

Dont we have addition and removal in the bible? Do you care if I show you verses present in some versions but absent in some?
Do you care if I give you verses present in later publications but absent in earlier publications?

@Lady

OK. I will wait and when you are through, I woul reply and ask questions from your bible.

@Davidylan

Why do you TRY SO HARD to force mohammad into the very same bible you claim is corrupt?

Stop crying foul. So you yourself know that the bible is corrupt. Deny his being in your book and I would serve you verses from your book.

Ever met a christian who was too busy quoting the quran to find Jesus in there?

The humble ones that that he is in the Quran but the ignorance ones like you and your sister away4 real pretended as if he is not even when you have been provided the facts on many occassions

Why do you TRY SO HARD to equate the quranic Isa with the resurrected CHRIST?

Was he crucified in the first place? Do you mind if I create a thread tagged' was Jesus really crucified'. we would debate on that and we would see later if it is the Quran or the bible to be accepted the truth.

When is this mythical day of reckoning? The day Jesus CHRIST comes in the clouds?

Did he tell you that? I though he would come like a thief in the night.

You don't seem to be "informing" us of anything. Merely repeating the same discredited propaganda over and over and over and and over and over again no matter how many times such light weight fabrications are shown up for the falsehood they truly are.

Going through your posts in which I am providing rebuttal to, one would see that you have portrayed high level of hypocrisy and further expose your falsehood.

Babs tried to show us . . . he got confused where the bible specifically says that the Holy Spirit is from the FATHER and proceedeth from the FATHER. Unfortunately he totally forgot that attributing the term "FATHER" to allah is haram.

I couldnt help laughing reading this your piece. I responded to May KELLY that they supported trinity and they are even the one kicking against it ignorantly and you just did that. You can imagine a situation where the Holy spirit proceeded from the father in which cace they are one, but the father still sent the holy spirit showing that he was inferior to the father!. My dear, in one of the threads which you hid under the word 'father' i gave you a verse that says that nobody should call anybody here on earth father and I told you to explain the verse but you never did. Since you are also tied to the lie of father and claimed that Muslims are slave and I told you how would you feel if I serve you verses where Jesus, Moses, John etc were referred to as SLAVES in your BIBLE. I further asked you if a person can be a slave and at the same time be a son since thee are verses calling the prophets slaves but you couldnt profer any sensible posts to all my request but came here and pretended that you supplied a question in which BABS never responded. Far from that David, you cant provide anything be it from my book or your book that BABS would never be able to respond. You are small for that ol'boy.

The rest just come here bleating about not wanting to bother themselves to quote the "relevant verses" . . . more often than not its because they know they wont be able to withstand the scrutiny.

What scrutiny did you mean?

away4real made a relevant point that always gets lost in the hubris we get fed here on a daily basis . . . the moment Islam is put under the light, u guys get uncomfortable and start threathening.

What have you been able to put under the light in Islam that muslims here have not responded to and if you still have other questions troubling you, create a thread for that and you and I debate on that. Your sister displayed treachery there hence your supporting her. Go to her post and see if I have not responded. You may still supply me verses that I have misquoted.

It is instructive to note that we now have a specific "for muslims only" section (none for christians by the way, i suppose muslims deserve special status) on this forum as a consequence of the numerous serious threats the mods and admin has recieved from adherents of the most peaceful religion on earth. Those who will kill to force mohammad into the pages of the bible they wont read.

Have you not showed your ignorance in that section you claimed it is for muslims?

@Away4real

@ babs u guys can't stand the heat, and yet u want to go close to the fire.

Have you been assured paradise and who assured you? Jesus was not a christian and would never be, so you would be lost on that day when every community goes to theier prophet and Jesus and Jews stay together and you would be left confused because he as never for you.

You are here stating Christ / Cherubum (what level of intelligence). You are free to say whatever u choose and really we are glad u can and should. Please put JC to the test.

What kinda test are you referring to?

However, the moment Islam is put under the light, u guys get uncomfortable and start threathening. Go to your Islam room now, what is it?

Go to Islam section and educate yourself. Raed how people have been contributing and knowledge being shared. I only come in whee I read your hypocrisy and lies.

For the uptenth time why do u guys try so hard to bring Jesus into the Koran, do u really crave credibility.

It is now glaring that you never know anything about the Quran. Go to search and read about Jesus in the Quran, his miraculous birth, his messengership etc.

Mohammed is not in the bible and we don't want him there, keep him in the Koran, we are sure of the bible.

Do you care if I serve you biblical verses to support the above?

Jesus is the christ, he is our saviour,

Do you have anywhere in your book where he said he was your saviour?

he was crucified

Who witnessed the alleged crucifixion, when was he crucified and was he crucified outside Jerusalem or in Jerusalem?

and on the 3rd day rose from the dead and is seated at the right hand of the father.

Do your calculation very well and let me know if he fulfilled the 3 days and three nights prophecy. Mind you, he said he would be in the belly of the earth but he was not. \

When you are through, let me know in what way he was like Jonah because he used Jonah's miracle out of very many.

We know for certain that Mohammed is not in the bible in any form and Jesus not in the Koran.

Do you care for verses from your bible and do you mind if I give you verses that talk about Jesus in my book?

Please do us all a favour and stop trying to call Jesus Isa he is not. Isa can be your prophet am not here not disprove that.

What is his name in aramaic and when you suply your answer, we shed light on that name and see if Jesus should have been his name.

For the uptenth time Jesus and Isa is not and cannot be the same. MALAMA has helped to show that further, see in bold. It gets more ridicolous the more u guys try. For the avoidance of doubt, Jesus is the Christ, God, Saviour and died for my sins. I go boldly to the throne of grace and speak face to face with the Godhead. Geez, i wish u could catch the rev. .

Where did he die for your sin? Do you have the proof because I have thread on that in which you people never answered and I may bring the thread and you provide answers. Your God died for your sins!!

Sister ayinba1 , truely i sleep better knowing that i don't need to help my God defend his name, nor care less about the desecration of the bible because it is just a paper, just a paper. The words come alive inside a man and transforms not the paper.

Oh so you agree that its just a paper, written, re-written, edited, re-editted by different writers by those that were never under any inspiration but contradicted themselves and lied to suit your faith

I was here and noticed 1st hand the threats to admin by followers of the religion of peace when Islam was put under the light. I am glad and happy to hear u guys say anythin u choose on JC and the holy spirit.

What derogatory things have we said concerning Jesus?

@LadyT


This goes a long to way to show the real peaceful/tolerant christians. I would not trade words with you but you are a woman and it shows your level of upbringiness.

David why are you even trying to explain things to this madwoman?

Did your religious leaders teach you the above or from your bible?

@Daidylan

this had nothing to do with RHC's post. Her question was not about whether christians accepted mohammad or not . . . she was wondering why muslims tend to TRY SO HARD to prove that Jesus THE CHRIST is nothing but a prophet when the average christian isnt at all bothered about mohammad's status. I reproduce her question for your benefit - How far people can go to discredit the deity of Christ surprise me a lot.  I don't know why other  peaceful religions try so hard to put Jesus out as a prophet when Christians are even indifferent about the existence of their own prophet or have you heard any christian biting his nail here  about whether your prophet is anointed or a messiah?

Why not tell the doctrine of trinity to your fellow Jehovah Witness?
Why not tell your planned 'stage play' called miracle to catholics among others?

He was . . . but the bible is more than plain that He was much more than just a prophet.
He forgave sins.

Which sins are you referring to? Have you forgotten that he has no power to guarantee heaven. Refresh your memory on a verse in which a woman went to her to guarantee her son a place in heven and read Jesus' response to the woman.

He died and rose again as a Saviour.

Where did he die?
When did he die?
Whop witnessed the alleged crucifixion and resurrection?
Was he crucified?

He is a deliverer
He is a Ruler over principalities and powers.

What powers when he cried and begged his saviour to save him. We have read stories of brave men, laughing when being led to their death but reverse was the case of a person that had knowledge of what he came to do but refused to do what he came to do

At His name every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that He is the Lord . . .

Is that one for God in the OT or Jesus?