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In addition, if Jesus is God, can someone explain these verses from John that confused himself?


John 13 v 16: Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

John 14 v 28; Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

John 17 v 1:These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

@Horus

Why asking senseless question and you havent answered my question served in my response to you up?





@Syuser

, a hell with human dimensions , by the way ,

the 70 years depth of the hell where a'llah (better still mohammmed) imagined, does it mean it would take 70 years when going at the speed of a snail or 70 years when going at the speed of light  

How great ones can't seem to see the stupidity in occultic rituals of is'lam that they believe, is quite staggering

Your ignorance has really blinded to the extent of not being able to put your senses to test. I am not surprised at you because your bible is silent on all these? Can we have the measurement of heaven and Hell from your bible?





@Drusilla

The Great Book is the proof that A-l-l-a-h is a mere fake heathen god.

Anything you read in there about A-l-l-a-h is an Abomination to God.

A-l-l-a-h and Hitler are roommates in hell.

Why not back your ignorance with proof and Babs will surely bring you out of your darkness to light Insha If you are ready.

@Drusilla

A-l-l-a-h worships at the feet of Jesus Christ.

Do you have your proof?

All false gods have to bow the knee and kiss the feet of Jesus Christ.

So the false gods do including A-l-l-a-h- does too.

Can you educate me more on the above base on verses from your holy book?

@Drusilla

I have already accepted the great religion, Christianity.

I-s-l-a-m is for heathens. Your all going to Hell.

Allah said that the christians and Jews said that none will enter heaven unless he/she is a christian/jew and Allah said that you should bring your proof if you are honest.

Thats another challenge for you from my creator

A-l-l-a-h is already in hell, whenever that little creepy fake god died.

Do you have your proof? Fake god, are you referring to biblical stories or what?

@4him

no difference except to a deceptful mus'lim aiming to find a "difference" that does not exist.

Is there any difference if I say 'all boys' and 'all the boys'?

seek to understand what Christ meant by that instead of going off tangent. The bible also explicitly says ALL MEN will be judged.

You even shot yourelf in the leg. He didnt say he would judged all men but said he would judge the twelve tribes.

Why would he judge the twelve tribes?

1. He also made it known the message of salvation was to be preached to ALL men in EVERY nation. Philip was sent to an Ethiopian, Peter was sent to a Roman centurion . . . Timothy was greek.

Why didnt he preach to gentiles but had his work limited to the children of Israel? He even told his diciples not to go to gentiles but to the house of the children of Israel and for him to have said all nations, it means all the tribes of Israel.

Did he send Philip to Ethiopia himself?
Did he send Peter to Roman?

2. Before trying to sneak the "dog" issue in here please explain why al'lah called others apes and pigs.

Not so fast brother, you cant play game with Babs, you read it there first so you should profer solution to it just like I asked you in another thread. Who did he refer to chldren and who are dogs?

You shld seek to understand the term "all nations" yourself before asking others.
He came first to His own (the nation of Israel), after His death and resurrection the temple veil was torn open . . . symbolic of the fact that God had moved from being cooped in a Jewish temple to dwelling in the hearts of ALL who would recieve Him.

Are you making sense at all? He came to the children of Israel first but extended the message to other communities after his death!!!.

When was the curtain torn?

While I look forward to reading from Horus, let me quickly attend to David's post


@4him

please lets not mistake the muslim heaven for what we have in the bible.
Heaven is NOT a generic term for where God lives . . . it is the NAME reserved for the abode of the Christian God and His children.

Did Muslim tell you that He lives in Heaven?

This new attempt to use "heaven" as a generic term that also covers the muslim jaanat is reprehensible and needs to be clearly denounced.

Can we have your detailed rebuttal on that?

Jaanat is muslim concept for their own fictitious paradise and actually translates to "garden" in english and NOT heaven. Jaanah is dishonestly derived from the hebrew term "garden of eden".

Did you read your post before hitting reply button? Do I need to rely your infantile post?

I still waiting the Tranlation of STIMULUS of what he posted for this name of God he is referring, mybe he will appear with he philosophical theory,

He will come and give us the meaning of the God used in John 1v 1.

Little wonder Jehovah Witness are not in agreement with them in that area. They used 'a god' and they have been saying that Jesus is a lesser god, 'TON THEON'

I am looking forward to receving his response and if I am not around, I will get it in my mail box when I log in.

He will need to explain the meaning of TON THEON
HO THEOS
and O THEOS

We will also compare

Exodus 7 v 1 where God made Moses god to Pharaoh

Psalm 82 v 6: I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High

and relate the meaning of God therein whether it is TO THEON or HO THEON and has any relationship with that of John 1 v 1

Masha Allah

@Horus

Question 1: Where exactly is situated your hell?
We hope to have an accurate reply from you.

Do you believe in that there is a place called Hell?

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Paradise is a means of mercifulness in rewarding a good effort, in true belief and trying to do good as best as possible.
Question 2: Where exactly is situated your heaven?
We hope to have an accurate reply from you.

Do you also believe that there is a place called Heaven and we then go into detailed explanation on that?

The K'oran is filled with fictitious places that they (M'uslims) cannot identify. You are so busy saying that I don’t know what I am talking about, you obviously never examined your K'oran. The K'oran is full of promises and fairy tale places that you don’t really know or can prove exists.
The K'oran makes promises of “. . . gardens beneath which rivers flow . . .” (2:25) or promises “garments of silk and reclining in the garden on raised thrones.” (76:12) There are promises of drinks called zanjabil-a and “braces of silver” (76:17).What m'uslims do not realise is that All of these materials can be obtained right here on Earth.

The above verses are not fictitious but the truth. You are surprised just because it mentioned gardens beneath which river flows, brother, hope you are not comparing rivers in your area with that of Heaven?

You have raised this question in one of the threads and I did answered you.

The drinks in Heaven are 100 times more than the one you can get on earth with all the money you may be having. its imcomparable.

You can never get the material here on earth even if you have the whole earth filled with gold, diamonds and what have you.

Do you still believe in Heaven and Hell?

@4him

When did tribes become ALL NATIONS OF THE WORLD?

Is there any difference between 'all the nations' and 'all nations'

Didnt he make that statement that he would sit judging the twelve tribes and what makes you think that he would judge twelve tribes?

The ko'ran isnt a reliable source.

Ok if you don't believe in the Great Book, you can at least believe NT where we have verses on his messengership to the children of Israel. He made it knownm that he was sent to them and even called some community 'DOGS'.

there are also verses where Christ specifically asked His disciples to preach to the nations of the world.

What do you understand by all the nations. David, it seems we may get to another contradiction on his message to the world/Israel as we proceed. Why didnt he himself preach to the whole world but for Israel alone?

@May Kelly

Alphazee, and others I feel you all. Indeed the posters arguement seems logical. but since is biblical question, lets connects it to Bible.

Good.

By one man (Adam) all have sinned,

How did all sin because of a man?

does not mean that after birth you will be judged by the sins of ADAM & EVE (I mean a birth of few Mintues and the child dies) do we judge the child with the sins of Adam, certaintly not.

So?

Through Adam all have sinned : simply means that their blood which still flows on every unbelievers blood is not clean as par when Man was originally created by God i.e before sin.

Sister, don't try confusing yourself. If am getting you, you are saying all beings have become unclean as a result of Adam and if that is the truth, how come little children that never knew anything (neither left from right) till they reach puberty? Man is still as clean as when he was originally created. It was christianity that infused this doctrine of original into their religion. There is nothing like sin inherited from Adam. You have well explained verses in the bible on these so no need for me wasting time here.

So once one is born on earth, he is under condemnation until when born of the Spirit and of the Water. i.e to say being Born Again as the Bible recorded it.

Its a blantant lie. No man is under any comdemnation. Mind you, JESUS never preached all these during him time but wa inserted into christianity by historians that never witnessed his ministry. Jesus came and preached repentance, by leaving shunning their evil ways fr the worship of one creator hence his 'repent and be born again for the kingd of God is at hand' and not that' you have inherited sin from Adam and the only you can be clean is when I use my blood to wash it away'.

Once born again, Christ blood flows in you, no longer Adam's blood. Hence through One man we are redeemed.

Madam, there is nothing spectacular in being brn again. In  a lay man concept, being born again, is leaving one's evil ways, bad ways for a normal, peaceful, religious life devoid of sin

Nobody redeemed you until you accept the last prophet and last book. Jesus didnt come to die for any sin and will never. If he had come to die and he knew that, why did he pray more than two times and his sweat were like blood, why did he shout on the cross that, 'my God, why has thou forsaken me'?

MAY GOD GIVE YOU UNDERSTANDING.

That goes to you.

@4Him

The bible never confused the 12 tribes of Isreal to mean "nations". It is deceptful mus'lims with ulterior motives who struggle to read such lies into the bible.

Ok, did Jesus not say that he would sit judging the 12 tribes of Israel?

what rubbish. Where in your injeel did u read this?

You yourself know that we have verses in the Quran where he was sent to the children of Israel and also made an example for them.

If you are even deceiving yourself, there are verses in your NT showing that he was sent to the children of Israel.

@David

did you answer my own question on why all'ah called some people apes and pigs?

Do I need to answer you? You digressed from all they pointed out to you and I had to reply you back the way you had wanted.

If you think that you have nothing to say to all their posts and the next thing for you to do is to try to deflect the topic, I have nothing to do than to ask you to profer solution to your question yourself by using question to answer your question.

@David


Did you make any sense at all?

Salam

A friend sent this:

Those who accomplish great deeds in the world, particularly the prophets and reformers, are gifted with a charismatic personality and it is this personality which is the power behind all their works of reform and leadership of movements and building up of a new order, based on a particular way of thinking. Thus, while studying the Prophet’s life we should first assess the personality of this redeemer of the humanity.


We do not have any picture or image of this greatest man whereby we can have the privilege of looking at his elegance because the Prophet himself prohibited the drawing or sculpturing of his picture as he feared this would be abused and might even be worshipped, which would annul the most basic tenet of Islam.


All pictures of him, drawn by Non-Muslims are imaginary and are based on their biased view of the Prophet.

We, therefore, have only some pen-portraits drawn by his companions (R.A), which give us a glimpse of his appearance.


Abdullah bin Salam was a Jew of great learning; the moment he saw the Prophet, he was convinced of the truth of his mission and embraced Islam. He said, “As soon as I saw the Prophet, I realized that this face cannot be that of an impostor.”


Another companion, Abu Ramsa Taimi(R.A) says, “I went to the Prophet with my son and the people there pointed him out to me. Immediately my son and the people there pointed him out to me. Immediately on seeing him I was convinced that he was truly a messenger of God.”


Abu Huraira(R.A) remarked, “The Prophet was like a bright sun. I have not seen a more handsome than the Prophet.


Rab’ee, daughter of Mu’awwaz. Had said, “If you had seen the Prophet, you would have felt as if the sun had risen.”

Hazrath Ali(R.A) said, “On the very first sight of him you would feel awe.”


Hazrath Jabir(R.A) Samra said, “I was once looking at the Prophet in the moonlight and comparing his face with the moon. At last I realized that the Prophet was much more handsome than the moon.”


I will send the attachment or the links where you will read everything about our Noble Prophet.

Maa Salam

@stimulus


I was surprised reading through your denial and the way you have been twisting the greek words in John 1 v 1.

I have been very busy but will come online to address this very thread when I read your response.

Since you are using this verse to say that Jesus is God, then we will go into the John 1 v 1, the earlier translation and how God is being written in Greek.

Secondly, we will go into all we need to know about trinity

Lastly, we will check some verses from the bible on the deity of Jesus and I hope at the end of it all, you will not say that Babs is deriding Jesus because everything will be from your same bible.


Till I hear from you,

Cheers

@Drusilla

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This is sick. Knowing that the Ieus is blamelesss in the Great Book, The only sinless One. The Great Prophet is not sinless. Respect Ieus, In the Great Book. The people of the book,i.e. us Christians and Jews have to trust in Ieus. Praise Him. The Lord Jesus Christ.

Meaning?

@4Him

Acts 10: 34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Why not serve us the saying of Jesus himself and not of third party? Did the author of the above gospel meet Jesus?

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Good, now in some versions, we have, 'all the nations". The nations here refer to the 12 twelve tribes of Jesus because he was sent to them and that is why he said that he would sit judging the 12 tribes of Israel.

Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations

All nations means all the 12 tribes of Israel. Please what goespel are you referring to?

Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Still the same issue, did Jesus make the above statement or by Luke that wrote letter to Theophilus and never met Jesus?

did you forget to read the above too?

That should go to you.

@4Him

David

Ye hypocrites . . . have you answered the question of why al'lah refered to jews as apes and pigs first?
Have you answered the question on why moh'amad called the ethiopians raisin heads?

Have you asked yourself why Jesus called some people dogs and some pigs?

@sysuser


Why not try to be honest to yourself and stop deceiving yourself. You havent given a straight forward answer to my questions.

In addition, you may also tell me the word used for Allah in the Arabian bible.

Why is Allah in Hausa bible and also in Arabian bible?

@sysuser

Ayinba.1 or whatever , that would be assuming you have made a positive "Non-Great Religion Bashing" or "Great Religion Ass kissing " comments right ,

The reason you people can't take the truth, is because its the truth and the truth is too painfully obvious for you people, hence you resort to all sorts of things to suppress the truth from being revealed,

What truth are you referring to?

Take for example there were certain things about "I.sLAm[i][/i]" that I did not know until i stumbled unto it on the nairaland forumn, those rubbish and filthy and peadophilia of your "Great Prophet" would have been difficult to find out from a less than free source,

O ma se o. So you learnt all about ISLAM here through false accusaton in which they couldnt establish and some stuff like that. Sorry o

The Word of the Lord God Almighty (God of Abraham, Isaac and Esau), is too hard for you people and your "demon Al.l.A.H" to handly,

I pity your soul. Let me ask my beloved soldier of christ a question: Have you seen it here where Muslims have been referring to God as Evil or demonic? Hope you are aware that you will account for all your sayings and Jesus told you that not all what goes into the mouth defileth a man but what cometh. So keep digging your grave yourself.Continue giving my creator disgusting names

simply because He has already said His word would pierce through you people like a double edged sword , hence why you people resort to violence at the slightest scent of being exposed for who you people really are ,

What word is that?

Why has Seun reprogramme I'slam and M'uslim as great religion and Q'uran as the great book. If you are reading something and all you read is great book and great religion, you will not really understand what the writer is trying to say or the message he is trying to convey.

I think Seun should please re-programme the two words to be in their original form so that a new person reading through posts will understand what everything is all about.

Thanks

@sysuser

Here comes Boeing 787, sorry babs787 , again, he don come with his, MORE QUESTIONS LESS ANSWERS, your asking of the kind of questions doesn't show the presence of understanding,

I know that you are not with your senses hence your mistake .

BABS SINCE YOU LIKE ASKING QUESTIONS MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE ANSWERs TO MINE,

1. Is Arabic the original language of the Northerner,

2. Why does the great religion prevent people using their own language for "aL.LA.H"

3. Why does M.uslim.s worship, the Moon and Star,

4. Why is an idol called "aL.LA.H",

5. Have you come across a Yoruba bible, what do the call God in that bible,

6. What does the Yoruba man call God,

7. What does the Yoruba M.uslim.s call, God

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What does Northern Christian call GOD?

Do you mean the northern Christians that your fellow "brothers in blood" ("the fellow great ones" slaughter at the slightest instance, of madness!

It seems you and your cohorts cannot debate intelligently without being abusive. My question is still in line with the thread. You and your apologists claimed that Allah is not God and I asked you simple questions which you ignored and pumelled me with yours. Now, if you really need answers for that, BABS will do that but you create threads for your ignorance and I will educate you.

Now once again, if Allah is not the same as God and shouldnt be replaced with same, what word is used for 'GOD' in Hausa bible.

Also, what do Arab Muslims call God?

What does Northern christian call God?

Thanks and no diversion please.

@stimulus

It just is about the same thing that happens in my invitations to Muslims who have sought pedantically to attack the Christian faith. For example, several times where I invited olabowale to enter into a discussion on the exegesis of his misgivings on the Trinity, he has consistently baulked and instead has sought to litter other threads with his noise in precisely the same manner that these gentlemen (therationa and bawomol/bawomolo) have been demonstrating in their own adventures.

Do you mind if you and I dig deep into the issue of trinity?

(f) Of course, let's not forget that Muslims have perfected the art of "plagiarism" by ferreting most of their queries against Christianity from the same skeptic and atheist websites! What is even more sinister is that the Muslims who have been heralded cheaply as "champions" of Islam on this forum have never demonstrated any rational or critical thinking of their own! Again, I've offered both babs787 and olabowale a few invitations to discuss their misgivings intelligently - while babs787 scooted off several times and never wanted to enter into an intelligent debate, olabowale assumes that running of from thread to thread with the same literary excreta might just be a better alternative for his emptiness!

Ogbeni, I didnt scoot away but left you when you werent saying anything meaning. You dodged my questions and asked another instead. If you care and really interested in religious debate, Babs is here for you. Can I still have where you offered Babs intelligent invitations and we continue from there?

The ball is in your court.

and what do you say about the Yoruba people and their durty habits I guess they are the best too.

What is that supposed to mean and for your information, I am a Yoruba man and nothing affects that. Se you hear? Why must this thread leads to insult, cant we ever live in peace?


@MCUSMAN

Dont bring that one here, Yoruba culture is the best.

E ku ise eyin eniyan mi o, Se alaafia ni gbogbo yin wa. E ku ijo meta o. Olorun yio ma pa alo ati abo yin mo.

Emi ko tete mo wipe iru nkan bayi nlo ni ibi yio. Olorun yio ma wa pelu yin bi e se fe maa gbe ede wa laruge o.

O dabo o

Common mistakes usually made in prayers


Listed below are the 7 Common mistakes we usually make in prayers


Mistake 1: Reciting Surat al-Fatiha fast without pausing after each verse.


The Prophet (SAW) used to pause after each verse of this surah. (Abu Dawood)


Mistake 2: Sticking the arms to the sides of the body, in rukoo' or sujood, and sticking the belly to the thighs in sujood.


The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: "Let not one of you support himself on his forearms (in sujood) like the dog. Let him rest on his palms and keep his elbows away from his body." (Sahih Muslim) . The Messenger of Allah (SAW) used to keep his arms away from his body during rukoo' and sujood that the whiteness of his armpits could be seen (Sahih Muslim).


Mistake 3: Gazing upward during prayer.


This may cause loss of concentration. We are commanded to lower our gaze, and look at the point at which the head rests during sujood. The Prophet (SAW) warned: "Let those who raise their gaze up during prayer stop doing so, or else their sights would not return to them. i.e. lose their eyesight]." (Muslim)


Mistake 4 : Resting only the tip of the head on the floor during sujood.


The Prophet (SAW) said: "I am commanded to prostrate on seven bones the forehead and the nose, the two hands [palms], the two knees, and the two feet." (Sahih Muslim) Applying the above command necessitates resting the forehead and the nose on the ground during sujood.


Mistake 5 : Hasty performance of prayer which does not allow repose and calmness in rukoo' or sujood.



The Messenger of Allah (SAW) saw a man who did not complete his rukoo' [bowing], and made a very short sujood [prostration] ; he (SAW) said: "If this man dies while praying in this manner, he would die upholding a religion other than the religion of Muhammad." Abu Hurairah (RA) said:

"My beloved friend, Muhammad (SAW) forbade me to perform postures of prayer copying the picking of a rooster; (signifying fast performance of prayer), moving eyes around like a fox and the sitting like monkeys ( i.e. to sit on thighs)." (Imam Ahmad & at-Tayalisi) The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: " The worst thief is the one who steals from his own prayer." People asked, 'Messenger of Allah! How could one steal from his own prayer?' He (SAW) said: "By not completing its rukoo' and sujood." (At Tabarani & al-Hakim).

To complete rukoo' is to stay in that posture long enough to recite 'Subhana rabbiyal Adtheem' three times, SLOWLY, and 'Subhana rabbiyal-a'ala' three times, SLOWLY, in sujood. He (SAW) also announced: "He who does not complete his rukoo' and sujood, his prayer is void." (Abu Dawood & others)


Mistake 6 : Counting tasbeeh with the left hand


The Prophet (SAW) used to count tasbeeh on the fingers of his right hand after salah. Ibn Qudamah (RA) said: " The Messenger of Allah (SAW) used his right hand for tasbeeh." (Abu Dawood). The above hadeeth indicates clearly that the Prophet (SAW) used only one hand for counting tasbeeh. No Muslim with sound mind would imagine that the Prophet (SAW) used his left hand for counting tasbeeh. Aa'ishah (RA) said that the Prophet (SAW) used his left hand only for Istinjaa', or cleaning himself after responding to the call of nature. He never used it for tasbeeh. Yasirah (RA) reported: The Prophet (SAW) commanded women to count tasbeeh on their fingers.

The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: "They (the fingers) will be made to speak, and will be questioned (on the Day of Resurrection. )" (At-Tirmidhi) , The above Hadeeth indicates that it is preferable to count tasbeeh on the fingers of the right hand than to do so on masbahah (rosary).


Mistake 7 : Crossing in front of a praying person.


The Messenger of Allah (SAW) warned: "Were the one who crosses in front of a praying person to know the consequences of doing so, he would have waited for *forty better than to cross in front of him." (Sahih Bukhari and Muslim). *The forty in the tradition may be days months or even years. Allah knows best.

Common Errors in Prayer That MUST Be Avoided - Please inform your near and dear ones to take care of the above.

Remember Muslim Ummah in your supplications


Maa Salam

It was a Cruci-Fiction.

We have crucifixion, crucifiction, crurifragium etc.


Let me be reading from people before I come in.

@stimulus

I have other contradictions to point out from the Qur'an; and if you assume that 4Him or anybody else is making crap because they point out the hypocrisy of the poster, then also Muslims should be answerable to the several questions that have been offered them and stop their own crappola

You may raise the thread for that so as not to deflect this very one

Thanks

@poster


I have been folowing this your thread but found it senseless and as a result will ask you some questions:

1. What does Northern Christian call GOD?

2. Have you come across Hausa bible? If you have, please what word is used for 'God' in that bible?

Thanks

@Imhotep

Trinity is Revealed by Christ only in the NT.

Where is that?

The Jews handed Jesus over to the Romans because he said he is the son of God (the Jews knew the implication of this).

Matthew 26:63-67 - > "The high priest said to him, "I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God."
"Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven." Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?" "He is worthy of death," they answered.

Can GOD sit at the right hand of himself?

Jesus bore witness to His Sonship by dying for it!!

Where is that and who witnessed the crucifixion?

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Do you have the saying of Jesus or early prophets on Trinity?

Matthew 28:19 -> "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

Firstly, what is your understanding of 'all nations'?

Secondly, does the above sounds like trinity to you before I expose you further?

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If Jesus is God, Holy spirit is God, why is sin against Jesus has forgiveness but that of holy spirit has n.o forgiveness.

Beautiful question. The sin against the Holy Spirit has to do with a hardheartedness that rejects the loving/saving action of God - like referring to Jesus as beelzebub, the prince of demons. God does not force salvation on anybody.

Save yourself that crap. Since God is three in one, why is one part aware and the otherpart is not aware?

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Why is Jesus not aware of the time the world will come to an end but only God in heaven knows?

He also tells the rich young man who calls him 'Good Master' that  'No one is good but God alone' . Jesus is not struggling for authority with His Father. If His Father wills that He should not know when the world will end, he lovingly obeys.

Did you read your post at all? You said Jesus is God and I asked you the above question.So are you saying that his father is superior to him?

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Trinity is not God's name in the Scriptures. It refers to his mode of 'existence'. YHWH is His name.

The Trinity is a Christian doctrine, stating that God is one Being Who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a mutual indwelling of three persons : the Father, the Son (incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth), and the Holy Spirit.

YHWH =  "I am that I am." (Exodus 3:14)

Jesus also says John 8:58  "before Abraham was, I Am." (he was nearly stoned to death because of this)

How does that relates to trinity?













@stimulus

I am thinking if you are in anyway related to pilgrim. She avoids questions on the pretext that I must answer hers before she would answer mine even though I asked mine before hers.

So chairman, thanks for admitting seeing my questions, can you still go ahead and provide answers, then we will go deep into that issues. Trust Babs for that

@stimulus


Why pretending as if you did not see my questions? I asked questions and you should go ahead to provide answers and not beating about the bush in searh of what to say.