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@babyosis

heard Hisham bin Hakim reciting Surat Al-Furqan during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle and I listen to his recitation and noticed that he recited in several different ways which Allah's Apostle had not taught me. I was about to jump over him during his prayer, but I controlled my temper and when he had completed his prayer, I put his upper garment around his neck and seized him by it and said, "Who taught you this Surat which I heard you reciting ?" He replied, "Allah's Apostle taught it to me". I said, "You have told a lie, for Allah's Apostle taught it to me in a different way from yours". So I dragged him to Allah's Apostle and said, "I heard this person reciting Surat Al-Furqan in a way which you haven't taught me!". On that Allah's Apostle said, "Release him (Umar) recite, O Hisham!" Then he recited in the same way I heard him reciting. Then Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way", and added, "Recite, O Umar", I recited it as he had taught me. Allah's Apostle then said, "It was revealed in this way. This Qur'an has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite of it whichever is easier for you."

Bukhuri: vol. 4, hadith 682, book 56

Narrated Ibn Mas'ud:

I heard a person reciting a (Quranic) Verse in a certain way, and I had heard the Prophet reciting the same Verse in a different way. So I took him to the Prophet and informed him of that but I noticed the sign of disapproval on his face, and then he said, "Both of you are correct, so don't differ, for the nations before you differed, so they were destroyed."
The above hadiths clearly shows that Muhammad allowed some variation regarding the reciting of the Qur'an.

Now don't tell us recitation means just prononciations,we have heard that altaquiyyah before

Now please what do you understand by the word 'recitation' and when you do, we shall look at different ways Quran can be recited as practised by different Islamic societies

@pilgrim.1

Please which TRANSLATION of the Qur'an do YOU recommend?

Besides, who is the "muslim scholars" that are willing to share the truth with humility and not try to mislead the enquirer?

I am only simply asking you about these issues in the hope that we can better understand you and not mistake your own version of apologetics for what it already is.

The above really caught my attebntio hence my quoting it. Please in all honesty, can you give me the verses in full from the translators going against each?

@D_D

again just like you hypocrites to make deliberately misinterprete the REAL question i was trying to bring out.

Ok let us see hypocrite's real question

Here it is again: Posted by: D__D

Quote from: chilla on January 21, 2008, 11:00 AM

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The Almighty Allah pleads with us to get up n worship him during that part of the nyt. Ya Ikhwanil Muslimeen, thats to show how loving the Almighty Allah is, what do u do to thank him FIRST for making you a muslim and for making you who you're today.


What is "loving" about this? I'm genuinely puzzled.

That was the question dear Chilla and mdsocks, it has nothing to do with whether muslims wish to refuse to sleep and spend all the time reciting the quran.

It is very glaring that you dont know anything even abut your so called religion let alone causing mischief in Islamic thread.

If you care to know, we muslims show appreciation to Allah for making us muslims who remember Him 24/7, supplicate and bow to only Him as our creator and not three in one DVD player.

You do not really know what you are missing for not being a muslim.

@babyosis

The next question that we need to ask is, "Did Uthman and his team do any editing or selecting when they made their version of the Qu'ran?" The next three hadiths show us that there was editing and selecting

You saw my question quite right and if you did not, please supply the verses in full from the translators going against each other. Very simple!!

Babyosis, stop pretending that you did not see my request and want you and I to dog deep into the bible so that as I am replying you here, you will also be doing same in similar thread for the bible.

@babyosis

Insert Quote
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Green/seven.htm#history
babs,allow me to lay a foundation first.
cool down,the thread just began.

I know you dont have any other website part from the one above.

In order to enjoy the drama, will you kindly serve the verses in full and start from there?


Babyosis, stop pretending that you did not see my request and want you and I to dog deep into the bible so that as I am replying you here, you will also be doing same in similar thread for the bible.

@Babyosis

are you disputing the above or you just want to play games?

My post was very straight forward and understandable only if you are honest to yourself.

don't give yourself a self inflicted heart attack
There are various Korans,do you doubt it?

In case you missed my earlier post, this is it again

There is one thing I want you to do for me, try giving me all the verses you want us to talk about in full and show the contradictions therein.

You  may still contact your deluded authors to give the full translation of all the translators and let us have a look at the contradictions.

So please give me verses in full please



Babyosis, do you care if I create a thread probably for you on:

a brief journey into the origin of the bible, the different versions we had and we are having now, the ommission of some verses and later insertions, difference in some verses of early publication etc?

Thanks for your cooperation

@cgift

How can his words come to pass? Who called him to prophethood? Does he and his blind followers even know what prophethood means? How can hios words ever come to a reality? Can somebody who gave four conflicting accounts of his call no whom a prophet is and what prophecies are? How dare you even expect any of his "curseful" words and "hateful" speeches to be honoured by whom?

I couldnt help laughing at your ignorance and I dont really blame you , it is what you were and being taught. You will always attract one's attention even if one decides not to reply your mischief.

Do you care for some prophecies of Muhammad that came to pass?
Do you care for prophecies of Jesus that never materialised?

@babyosis


There is one thing I want you to do for me, try giving me all the verses you want us to talk about in full and show the contradictions therein.

You  may still contact your deluded authors to give the full translation of all the translators and let us have a look at the contradictions.

Lastly, are you ready for a brief journey into the origin of the bible, the different versions we had and we are having now, the ommission of some verses and later insertions, difference in some verses of early publication etc?

Are you ready for the challenge?

Back to the topic, can I have some verses from the Quran existing in some Quran but missing in some or verses from different translators going against each other?

Thanks

@Chilla


Jazhakullah Khairan

Salam


A friend forwarded this to me and I decided to post it here for all to read


SIGNS OF THE LAST DAY

1400 years ago!!!


Take a look, Now this is scary but soooooooo TRUE!!!!

* Camels will no longer be used as a means of transport;

* People will ride on saddles that aren't saddles (cars?)

* The distance on earth will become short; (Telecommunications and internet)

* Horses will not be used in wars; (B4 bombers, invisible submarines, tanks)

* Muslims will defeat the Byzantines which will end with the conquest of Constantinople( Istanbul )

* The Jews will gather again to live in Bilad Canaan; ( Israel )

* Very tall buildings will be built; (sky scrappers)

* The disappearance of knowledge and the appearance of ignorance, with much killing;

* Adultery will become widespread, and the drinking of wine will become common;

* The number of men will decrease and the number of women will increase until there are 50 women to be looked after by one man.

* Islam will become worn out like clothes are, until no one will know what fasting, prayer, charity and rituals are;

* Allah will send a disease to fornicators that will have no cure (Aids?);

* People will begin to believe in the stars and reject AL QADAR (THE DIVINE DECREE OF DESTINY);

* Men will pass by people's graves and say: "Would that I were in his place"; (large amount of sucidal deaths?)

* The Euphrates will uncover a mountain of gold for which people will fight over (the river of Alfurat that lies near Syria );

* Two large groups of people will fight one another, and there will be many casualties; they will both be following the same religion (World War II?);

* Earthquakes will increase;

* Time will pass quickly;

* Afflictions will appear;

* Killing will increase;

* Wealth will increase;

* Women will be wearing clothes but not wearing clothes

* THE PROPHET (saw) SAID: "IF MY UMMAH BEARS 15! TRAITS(QUALITIES) , TRIBULATION WILL FOLLOW IT." (DAY OF JUDGEMENT) SOMEONE ASKED,"WHAT ARE THEY O MESSENGER OF ALLAH?" HE (saw) SAID:

* When any gain is shared out only among the rich, with no benefit to the poor;

* When a trust becomes a means of making profit;

* When paying ZAKKAT becomes a burden;

* When voices are raised in the mosque;

* When the leader of a people is the worst of them;

*When people treat a man with respect because of what he may do;

* When much wine is drunk; red wind or the earth swallow them, or to be transformed into animals."

* 'IMRAN IBN HUSAYN SAID: "THE PROPHET (AS) SAID, 'SOME PEOPLE OF THIS UMMAH WILL BE SWALLOWED BY THE EARTH, TRANSFORMED INTO ANIMALS, AND SOME WILL BE BOMBARDED WITH STONES'. ONE OF THE MUSLIMS ASKED, WHEN WILL THAT BE O MESSENGER Of ALLAH?' HE SAID, 'WHEN SINGERS AND MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS WILL BECOME POPULAR, AND MUCH WINE IS DRUNK.'"

*THE GREATER SIGNS OF THE HOUR The Quran will disappear in one night, even from the people's hearts, and no Ayah will be left on earth. (Some groups of old people will be left who will say: "We heard of fathers' saying "LA-ILAHA ILLAL-LAH" so we repeat it)

* The appearance of the MAHDI;

* The appearance of the DAJJAL (Anti Christ);

* The appearance of Ya'juj and Ma'juj (biblical Gog and Magog);

* Isa (Jesus) will come during the time of Dajjal;

* The rising of the sun from the west;

* The destruction of the Ka'ba and the recovery of its treasures;

* The smoke.


But there is a detailed write up on Judgement day in this link https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-41732.0.html

Maa Salam

@engrwalex

All the surahs in quran are in good but am surprising a strange surah in Quran which Almighty Allah did not begin with Bismillahi Rahman Raheem , Suratul Taobat

Good observation brother. Do you research very well and you will see that it is not only Surah Taobat that we are not having Bismillah at the beginning but in another chapter as well. Also we have chapters having more than one Bismillah. Do the research and when you are through, Insha Allah, I will supply the answer. We are learning from each other .

@ All

May the Almighty increase our knowledge.

Amin

Lets keep firm n continue the spread of Allah's Words,

Insha Allah, Dawah continues

let watever any intruder will say not discourage us, we r 4 ALLAH n so it shall continue 2 be.

Never will they be able to discourage us but rather increase our faith in Islam because truth stands from falsehood except those that want to continue deceiving themselves. Allah re-kindle His light each time they try to extinguish it.

Maa Salam

@Babyosis

The same texts that become practically useless after interpretations?
which one should he get,Yusuf Ali,Dawud,picthall,shakir,momin,parvez,Asad,Amjad,ahmad,shabir or the other 20 translations?

Can you serve me verses from the above translations that seemed contradicting and we apply same to the bible too. If you are ready for that, Babs is willing to dig into your bible again.

@Davidylan

I decide to reply you because this is Islamic thread.

Read post #8

Ok and this is the post you referred to:

they have already started to copy christians again. Cant these slaves ever be original?
- Where in the quran or hadith is Allah refered to as the "omega"?
- Do slaves have a "union" with "god"?
- "divine visitation"? When did that creep into islam?

Now Davidylan, in my lat post I sent this:

Can you please serve me the sensible unaswered questions?

Your above questions do not seemed sensible enough to warrant any response but will try and respond to satisfy

This is Salinco's post that caused your mischief:

You will Stand BIG because of your UNION with God, He
will take you to the ZENITH, open an INTERCONTINENTAL
GATEWAY for you to discover PLATINUM and DIAMONDS, and
your Unendinng Bank of Abundance (UBA) will SPRING
beyond the SKYE and the OCEANIC, leaving a FIRST of
its kind MONUMENT for the world to see. Because the
OMEGA is your GUARANTY TRUST, get set for FIRSTINLAND
divine visitation. You will ACCESS your aspirations
this year whether the enemies like it or not oh!!
Yes!!! Is someone excited in the house? If you love
God and Your FIDELITY with HIM is assured, ECO this to
all the people on your list, Have a wonderful day
ahead. enjoy. Happy New Year !!BARIKA JUMAH !!! God bless,

Davidylan, what is your problem with the above quote please?

Where in the quran or hadith is Allah refered to as the "omega"?

Please what is the English word for Omega?

- Do slaves have a "union" with [b]"god"?[/[/b]quote]


I dont undertand what you meant here. Try and make your post look sensible next time. I dont know anything about a 'god'

- "divine visitation"? When did that creep into islam?

Before you were born.


Please always ask a sensible question. Thanks

The Grand Intercession


The thrones of standing for Judgment will seem abysmal. People will cry out; 'who will help us inttercerde to our Lord, to at least, look into our case and judge us?' Some will say, 'who is worthier of that than our father, Adam'. They will go to him and say, 'Adam you are the father of all men, Allah created you with His power and breathed into you of His spirit and commanded the angels to bow down to you, and He made you to dwell in the garden, will you intercede for us before our Lord?' Do you not see our condition and the sufferring that has overtaken us? He will reply, 'the wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before nor will it be kindled like it again. He had forbideen me eating of a particular tree and I disobeyed him. I am afraid for myself! Go to some one else. Go to Huh (Noah)'. They will go to him and say,'Noah, you were the first Messenger to the people of the earth and Allah called you a grateful servant. Do you not see our condition and how we suffer? Will you not then intercede for us before our Lord? He will say, 'the wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before. I had an opportunity of supplication, which I used on behalf of my people. I am afraid for myself!. Go to someone else, go to Ibrahim (Abraham)'. They will go to him and say, 'Ibrahim, you are Allah's Prophet and His friend from among the denizens of the earth. Do intercede for us with your Lord. Do you not see what condition we are in? He will say to them, 'the wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before nor will it be kindled hereafter. Three falsehoods are attributed t me. I am afraid for myself. Go to someone else, go to Musa (Moses)'. They will go to him and say, 'Musa you are a Messenger of Allah, He honoured you with His Words and His messages to People.Do intercede for us with your Lord. Do you not see our condition? He will say,' The wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before nor will it be kindled hereafter. I killed a person whom I have not been commanded to kill. I am afraid for myself. Go to someone else, go to Isa (Jesus).' They will go to him and say, 'Jesus you are the Messenger of Allah, and His word, which He conveyed to Mary, and a spirit from Him and you talked to people in the cradle. Do intercede for us with your Lord. Do you not see what condition we are in? Jesus will say, 'the wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before nor will it be kindled again.'. He did not mention his faults but said, 'go to someone else, go to Muhammad'. They will go to him and say, 'Muhammad, you are the seal of Messengers and Prophets of Allah, you have been forgiven all your shortcomings, the first and the last. Do intercede for us with your Lord. Do you not see what condition we are in? Then, I (Muhammad) will accept and proceed to the Throne and fall prostrate before my Lord. Allah will then bestow on me knowledge of His praise and glorification such as He will not have bestowed upon anyone before me. He (Allah) will then say to me, 'Muhammad, raise your head and supplicate, you will be answered; intercede, it will be accepted'. I will raise my head and supplicate. I will then say, 'O my Lord, You did promise to grant me intercession, so, accept my intercession in respect of your creatures to judge them'. Allah will say, 'I have accepted your intercession, and I ma coming to judge you'. The Prophet (saw) will thereby return and take his position amongst the people.


The coming of Allah


Quran 89 v 21-22: Nay when the earth, is pounded to powder; and your Lord comes and His anfels, rank upon rank

Quran 2 v 210; will they wait until Allah comes to them in canopies of clouds, with angels (in His train),

Quran 39 v 69; And the earth will shine with light of its Lord and the book will be placed open and the Prophets and the witnesses will be brought forward, and it will be judged between them with truth and they will not be wronged.

Quran 6 v 158; Are they waiting to see if the Angles come to them, or your Lord (Himself),

As soon as the Prophet (saw) finished his grand intercession, there will be a roaring sound from the skies andthat will be the coming of the angels to the place of Judgment.

As they approach the earth, their overwhelming light will radiate increasingly. Angles of the first heaven will descend and their number will double tha of men and Jinn. They will take teir positions in rows.


Quran 78 v 38: On the Day when Jibril and the angels will stand in rows, they shall not speak,

Those in the second heaven will also descend but will double those of the first heaven. That is how all the angels in the other heavens will descend with their numbers doubling the preceding one. Their rows will be in such a way that;


Quran 75 v 10-11; Man will say where is the refuge? Nay, no place of safety,


It will then be said to the company of Jinns and men that;


Quran 55 v 33: O you assembly of Jinns and men! If it is possible for you to pass beynd the zones of the heavens and the earth, escape!You will not be able to pass except with authority.


Allah will there and then arrive amidst the angels' glorification thus:

Glory be to the Owner of the Throne and Omnipotence
Glory be to the Owner of Dominion and Sovereignty
Glory be to the Living that will never die
Glory be to the one who kills all creatures but will never die
Glorification, most Holy, Most Holy
Glory be to our Lord, the most High, the Lord of all the angels and Jibril
Glory be to our Lord, the most High, who kills the entire creatures but will never die


Allah will then sit on His Kursiyy and say:

O you Jinns and men! I have been keeping silent since the time I created you up to this day. I have heard all that you have said and seen all that you have done. Listen to me for it is your record of deed that would be read to you. Whoever sees good, let him thank Allah; and whoever sees otherwise let him not blame anybody but himself.



Reflect and Repent


This is the Day when mankind will stand on a new earth devoid of all traces of injustice, inequality, falsehood, pretence and illusion.Everything will appear in its true light. Its entire scene will be that of reality. Eahcman will forsaje his mother, father, wife, children and brother, each will have enough pre-occupation of his or her own. Some faces will be covered with dust and veiled in darkness. Man will remember all he had done. The earth will expose all the evil deeds which man has perpetrated on it. All secrets will be made open before the eyes of all. The hands of man will talk while legs will bear witness. What a day of no escaoe for anybody! This is the Day when wealth, position and family status will be of no avail.




This is Jahannam


Allah will then order that the Jahannam be brought. It will have seventy thousand bridles, and each one being pulled by seventy thousand angels. On seeing it, everybody will fall on his or her knees.


Quran 45 v 28; And you will see every people on their knees,

They will be gripped with fear. The transgressors will raise loud cries and shrieks. For the second time, the Hell will breathe out its heat, and people will be filled with rened fear and awe. At the third instance, people will fall upon their faces. Then, Allah will say:


Quran 36 v 60-63; O children of Adam! Have I not enjoined on you that you should not worship Shaytan for that he was an avowed enemy, and that you should worship me, (for that) this was the right way? However, he did lead astray a great multitude of you, did you not then understand? This is the hell of which you were repeatedly warned.


Quran 36 v 59: O you sinners! Get yourselves apart this Day



The Divine court of Justice

The Grand Intercession

The thrones of standing for Judgment will seem abysmal. People will cry out; 'who will help us inttercerde to our Lord, to at least, look into our case and judge us?' Some will say, 'who is worthier of that than our father, Adam'. They will go to him and say, 'Adam you are the father of all men, Allah created you with His power and breathed into you of His spirit and commanded the angels to bow down to you, and He made you to dwell in the garden, will you intercede for us before our Lord?' Do you not see our condition and the sufferring that has overtaken us? He will reply, 'the wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before nor will it be kindled like it again. He had forbideen me eating of a particular tree and I disobeyed him. I am afraid for myself! Go to some one else. Go to Huh (Noah)'. They will go to him and say,'Noah, you were the first Messenger to the people of the earth and Allah called you a grateful servant. Do you not see our condition and how we suffer? Will you not then intercede for us before our Lord? He will say, 'the wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before. I had an opportunity of supplication, which I used on behalf of my people. I am afraid for myself!. Go to someone else, go to Ibrahim (Abraham)'. They will go to him and say, 'Ibrahim, you are Allah's Prophet and His friend from among the denizens of the earth. Do intercede for us with your Lord. Do you not see what condition we are in? He will say to them, 'the wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before nor will it be kindled hereafter. Three falsehoods are attributed t me. I am afraid for myself. Go to someone else, go to Musa (Moses)'. They will go to him and say, 'Musa you are a Messenger of Allah, He honoured you with His Words and His messages to People.Do intercede for us with your Lord. Do you not see our condition? He will say,' The wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before nor will it be kindled hereafter. I killed a person whom I have not been commanded to kill. I am afraid for myself. Go to someone else, go to Isa (Jesus).' They will go to him and say, 'Jesus you are the Messenger of Allah, and His word, which He conveyed to Mary, and a spirit from Him and you talked to people in the cradle. Do intercede for us with your Lord. Do you not see what condition we are in? Jesus will say, 'the wrath of my Lord has been kindled this day as it has never been kindled before nor will it be kindled again.'. He did not mention his faults but said, 'go to someone else, go to Muhammad'. They will go to him and say, 'Muhammad, you are the seal of Messengers and Prophets of Allah, you have been forgiven all your shortcomings, the first and the last. Do intercede for us with your Lord. Do you not see what condition we are in? Then, I (Muhammad) will accept and proceed to the Throne and fall prostrate before my Lord. Allah will then bestow on me knowledge of His praise and glorification such as He will not have bestowed upon anyone before me. He (Allah) will then say to me, 'Muhammad, raise your head and supplicate, you will be answered; intercede, it will be accepted'. I will raise my head and supplicate. I will then say, 'O my Lord, You did promise to grant me intercession, so, accept my intercession in respect of your creatures to judge them'. Allah will say, 'I have accepted your intercession, and I ma coming to judge you'. The Prophet (saw) will thereby return and take his position amongst the people.


The coming of Allah


Quran 89 v 21-22: Nay when the earth, is pounded to powder; and your Lord comes and His anfels, rank upon rank

Quran 2 v 210; will they wait until Allah comes to them in canopies of clouds, with angels (in His train),

Quran 39 v 69; And the earth will shine with light of its Lord and the book will be placed open and the Prophets and the witnesses will be brought forward, and it will be judged between them with truth and they will not be wronged.

Quran 6 v 158; Are they waiting to see if the Angles come to them, or your Lord (Himself),

As soon as the Prophet (saw) finished his grand intercession, there will be a roaring sound from the skies andthat will be the coming of the angels to the place of Judgment.

As they approach the earth, their overwhelming light will radiate increasingly. Angles of the first heaven will descend and their number will double tha of men and Jinn. They will take teir positions in rows.


Quran 78 v 38: On the Day when Jibril and the angels will stand in rows, they shall not speak,

Those in the second heaven will also descend but will double those of the first heaven. That is how all the angels in the other heavens will descend with their numbers doubling the preceding one. Their rows will be in such a way that;


Quran 75 v 10-11; Man will say where is the refuge? Nay, no place of safety,


It will then be said to the company of Jinns and men that;


Quran 55 v 33: O you assembly of Jinns and men! If it is possible for you to pass beynd the zones of the heavens and the earth, escape!You will not be able to pass except with authority.


Allah will there and then arrive amidst the angels' glorification thus:

Glory be to the Owner of the Throne and Omnipotence
Glory be to the Owner of Dominion and Sovereignty
Glory be to the Living that will never die
Glory be to the one who kills all creatures but will never die
Glorification, most Holy, Most Holy
Glory be to our Lord, the most High, the Lord of all the angels and Jibril
Glory be to our Lord, the most High, who kills the entire creatures but will never die


Allah will then sit on His Kursiyy and say:

O you Jinns and men! I hyave been keeping silent since the time I

@ olabowale

This man babs787, is a true believer in his Creator. This shows that iddayah comes to peoples breast, by the Mercy of Allah. The best out of islam are always the best in Islam. It shows that Iman is not based on how long you have been practicing Islam. It is your piety and God consciousness of the heart that indicate the gradiation of believe.

Here in America, the reverts to Islam are the better in worship than the people born into islamic family, who aften take this religion of Success for granted! May Allah continue to increase you in faitha nd knowledge my brother Babs. May Allah indeed increase all of us in faith and knowledge. Amiin.

Thank you very much and may Allah increases your knowledge and give you sound health and many more years so that we will continue to learn from you.

Honestly, you have been a father to all muslims here and I for one has learnt and still learning from you. You have given me much courage and make my Iman strong through your posts. A friend posted the link to me to check joke section but went to religion section and read all lies being said about Allah, Islam and my dear prophet Muhammad and having had christianity background decided to tackle their falsehood.

May Allah continue to be with you sir and more power to your elbow.





@ mdsocks

True Talk

Bro Olabowale,

Babs Jazakallahu Khair

Same to you my brother. You and the rest of Muslims here and outside Nairaland have been my pillar that has been provng me support.

May Allah bless you all

@Davidylan

it hasnt proved anything but that dragnet has never read his quran which he touts. All the other questions have been left unanswered . . . care to prove me wrong there too?

Can you please serve me the sensible unaswered questions?

Salam Mdsocks, Cushman, Mustay, Dragnet, Mukina, chilla etc

Jazakhullah for all the wonderful chapters from the Holy Quran. Honestly, I feel like crying going through those recitations especially that of Surah Rahman in which case human beings have been ungrateful to Allah for all He did and Has been doing for them.

Every verse from the Holy Quran carries inpirational message, make me fear Him and draw me closer to Him.

May Allah bless you all.

Maa Salam

@Bellloti

Salam

Nice hearing from you all these while. May Allah continue to be with you


@All

May Allah increases your knowledge and make you not depart from the right religion before Allah.

Maa Salam

@Mdsocks

but, what about those who don't die as muslims but were good throughout their lives.


how will theirs be.

note:not that i don't know this ,but want others to benefit.

Salam brother. Let me quickly repy with verses from the Quran:


Quran 3 v 85: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter, he will be in the ranks of those who have lost.

Quran 3 v 91;Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in th Ayat (proofs, evidences, signs, revelations etc) of Allah, then surely, Allah is swift in caling to account.


Do the above answer the question?





Death of the Angel of Death

When all woud have died, the angel of death will appear before Allah (SWT) and say, 'O my Lord, the dwellers of the heafens and earth have all died except those you wish to be alive'. Allah (SWT0 will ask, 'is there anybody left?' He will reply, 'O my Lord, You are left, for you are Ever-living, the Hamalatul-'Arsh (the eight angels bearing the throne of Allah) are there, angels Jibril and Mikail are left, and I am too'. Allah will then command that Jibril and Mikail should die. The Throne of Allah will say, 'My Lord, Jibril and Mikail will die!' Allah will ask it to keep mute and declare that, 'I have decreed death on all that live below my throne'. They will die while the angel of death will go back to Allah informing Him that both of them have doed. Allah will ask again, 'Who is left?' HE WILL REPLY, 'You are left, for You are Ever-living who will never die, the Hamalatul-'Arsh and I are still eft'. Allah will then order that the Hamalatul-'Arsh should die while the Throne 9the 'Arsh) will be asked to stand on its own. On re-appearance of the angel of death, Allah will ask him again, 'Who is left?' His repy will be,'O my Lord, You are left, for You are the Ever-living and you will never die and I am too'. Allah will say,' You are one of my creatures created for what you have seen, and I have decreed that every soul shall taste death, hence Allah will decree that the angel of death dies too.

Only Allah will remain

After all that Allah had created from the beginning of creaton have died and passed into extinction, He will grasp the earth and scroll up the heafens. He will hold the heafens on one finger, the mountains and trees on one finger, water and earth on one finger and the rest of creation on one finger. He will then too them and declare, 'I am the King, I am the King, I am the Compeller, I am the Compeller. Who owns Dominion this Day?' There will be no one anywhere to answer Him. He will respond saying: 'It belongs to Allah, the Only One, the Subduer'. Afterwards, He will bring new earth and heaven into being. They would be levelled and extended. One will not find any crookedness therein. Thereafter, He will bring all creatures unto the new earth as they were in the previous one. He will then send rain like dew that will make people's body grow to their original form. This will alst forty years. Then, He will resurrect the Hamalatul-'Arsh, Israfil, Jibril and Mikail.


The Second Blowing

It is now time for all freatures to rise from their death. Allah will instruct Israfil (AS) to make the second blowing

Quran 39 v 68: Then will a second one be dounded, when, behold! They will be standing and looking on.

This blowing is called Nafkhatu-l-Qiyaam or Ba'th (the blowing for resurrectio). On its instance, all souls that have been kept in Illiyin and Sijjiin will swarm out filling the spaces between the heavens and earth.

An-Nashr (Rising from the grave)

Allah (SWT0 wil then declare that: 'By my Majesty and Greatness, let every soul join its body'. As each soul meets its body, the earth will tear apart and open for it. Prophet Muhammad (SAW) would be the first person to raise his head after the second blowing of the Trumpet. Concerning this opening, Allah says in the Quran:

Quran 99 v 1-5: When the earth is shaken with her vilent shaking, the earth brings forth her burdens, and man says, what is the matter with her? That day will she tell her news; for your Lord would have revealed to her,


The Announcer

It will then be announced that; 'O people, come forward to your Lord'. They will start rising and trooping out hurriedly from their graves and move towards the announcer. However, the unbelievers will cry: 'This is a terrible day'! The announcer will further convey the command that, 'Make them stand, they will be gathered for reckoning'.

Al-Hashr (Gathering for Judgment)

The whole mankind this Day would be gathered on a reddish white land like a loaf of bread. Everybody wil rise from their graves naked, uncircumcised and barefooted. The gathering for the Judgment will proceed in three batches. The first will set out on a comfortable means of conveyance. The second will go there with two, three, or ten people riding on a camel. The last batch will go on foot. A fire will emanate and force them to march on their feet while the unbelievers would be dragged on their face to the place of Judgment.


Standing for Judgment

People will stand for a span of seventy years. Children will become grey-headed. Mankind will wail and cry until all their tears are exhausted. The sun and its intense heat will be a mile away. They will sweat until it forms pools of water up to their heels, joints, knees, ears, some people would be drowned in it. Only those who are sincere believers in Allah will be saved this Day. The Prophet (saw) has said that, Allah, this Day, will provide shade for the following categories of people, 'a just ruler, a youth who occupies himself with worship of Allah, a person whose hearth is attached to the mosques, two persons who love each other, meet each other and depart from each other for the sake of Allah, a man whom a woman of beauty and high rank tries to seduce, but he refuses (to give in), saying; 'I fear Allah', a person who gives charity and conceals it to such an extent that the left hand does not know what the right hand has given, and a person who remembers Allah in solitude and his eys shed tears'.

Where is everybody?

@mdsocks


I have a question for you

Islam and worship

True worship frees a man from the bondage of fleshly lusts and draws him into God's presenmce and to spiritual joys.

Islamic worship has many aims. One of them is to rip away the curtains of negligence and ignorance and so to usher in a mighty moral and spiritual re-amarmament and revolution.

Belief shapes thought and actions. Diepierre writes in his book 'the conflict between science and religion'." 'constantine decreed that christianity was an official religion of the Roman Empire and, to please his pagan subjects, permitted many customs of the earlier paganism to be taken up nto christianity.

Stahwood Cobb a christian servant in his book 'lord of the two kabahs, compares muslm and christian worship thus and I quote 'I was allowed to be present in Hagia Sofia Mosque in Istanbul to witness a service of prayer and worship there. In such services repeated genuflections (Rukoo) and prostrations (Sujood) play a large part as the accompaniment to fixed forms of prayer and adoration. I was deeply impressed by the solemnity, humility and reverence of the worshippers. It far surpassed anything I have ever met in any christian church in its sincerity of veneration, depth of self surender and dedicated devotion to the Divine Essence. I shared with other foreigners the privilege of watching the ceremonies of the Night of Power (Laelatul Quadri) on which the Quran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammed. From the balcony in one of the squinches we looked down on the 5,000 worshippers who crowded Hagia Sofia, performing their rukkos and sujoods in perfect unison, rhythm and order. The rustle of their bending to genuflect or prostrate themselves, the sound of their hands being placed on the floor before them, their united uprising made deep quiet waves of reverence fill the vast dome, and ascend heavenward. The sight was splendid matchles, dignified, numinous, humble, reverent, expressive of a sense of individual freedom, democracy, equality which allowed no discriminations of persons or classes. I saw an itinerant carpet vendor cheek by jowl with a Pasha in gorgeous robes, in concorn, without fear of favour, standing, kneeling, prostrating themselves in common worship, while big bellied, dark faced Negroes busied themselves with their religious observances alongside the most chic of the Turks of Istanvul. For Islam from its inception has pursued a creed of brotherhood which it preserves till today.'

@mdsocks

cool down ooo,

any body got any question to ask, ?


Since the topic says islamic talk.

you can bring on anythign you might not understand.

I will come with some questions in due course.

@Mdsocks

please do,

I enjoined reading it,


but, what about those who don't die as muslims but were good throughout their lives.


how will theirs be.

note:not that i don't know this ,but want others to benefit.

Ma salam

Salam brother. The write up will cover those that died as non-muslims and muslims alike.

Salam


Thumbs up Mukina

@Mukina

First, you should ask yourself why, when, and how you are getting angry and control the circumstances that create such situations. By directing your thoughts in this way, you can often control your anger. So condition yourself to ask questions such as the following: Why am I getting angry? What is the big deal about reacting to something that happened in the past? Can I change it now? If the milk is already spilled, how is my anger going to help to bring it back? What benefit can I gain by reacting in anger? Is there anything far more beneficial I can do instead?

Furthermore, think of all the harmful effects of anger if it is not controlled. In fact, there is nothing more destructive than anger if it leads to violence or inflicting verbal or emotional abuse on people. So condition yourself to think of the destructive consequences of anger until you learn to associate anger with pain, ugliness and suffering. In this way, you will be better able to take control of your anger and make sure that it is not expressed in a harmful way.

Thanks so much our intelligent sister. I have been learning and still learning lots from you. I will try to apply the above to my everyday dealing with people of different age, race, culture, religion, skin color etc.

May Allah increases your knowledge.

Lest I forget, please tell stranger26 and Luv2talk that their attention are needed in all Islamic threads

Maa Salam

Salam

I will continue shortly

Salam

Surah Al-Baqarah Verse 6
As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.

Masalaa,

I will post similar verse on that later

Maa Salam

@sysuser

so PLEASE babs787 , STOP ignoring the obvious answers to your questions,

In order to wrap up this discussion because this will be my last post in this very thread:
Can you please supply me where you provided answers to my questions, particularly to those contradictions and my last question?

Thanks

Any other contribution?