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Christianity Etc › Re: How God Created Light Before The Sun - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 12:40am On Jul 27, 2020

kingxsamz:
Answer the question or waka pass, abeg.

If you really thought the question you asked was that important, you should be patient enough to wait til you get the answer.

Christianity Etc › Re: How God Created Light Before The Sun - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 12:32am On Jul 27, 2020

Walk:
Stop mentioning me, please.

Are you kidding me?? Maybe you should also stop mentioning others who chose to bear monikers impossible not to mention like mention, me, stop, and please, please.

Christianity Etc › Re: What My Phone Did When I Told It To Prove To Me That Its Maker Exists - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 12:25am On Jul 27, 2020*

ublight:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,

go and study bible oga. Stop being a clown

Keep laughing at yourself because the joke's on the likes of you, as you should've already observed from the comments on this thread.

Christianity Etc › Re: How God Created Light Before The Sun - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 12:19am On Jul 27, 2020

kingxsamz:
Please tell us how God stopped the Sun and the moon as stated in the Bible.

Why not first allow the truth you've learnt here first to digest before you ask for another? You don't want to suffer from knowledge indigestion do you?

The same God that revealed this truth to me is more than able to also reveal that of what you are asking me.

Christianity Etc › Re: How God Created Light Before The Sun - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 12:03am On Jul 27, 2020

Mathscum:
I know the truth but I don't work in it,.
The spirit is eager but the flesh is weak

If you really know the Truth it would set you free.

John 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

So ask God to help you know the Truth, if you're truly willing to walk in it. He alone can give that knowledge.

Christianity Etc › Re: How God Created Light Before The Sun - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 11:42pm On Jul 26, 2020

ublight:
Sir i like your zeal, however it is without knowledge.

Apostle Paul and John already explained genesis 1. What are u even saying?

Read the epistles well oga.

A good thing that you've already exposed your ignorance of the truth from the other thread, so I can understand where you're coming from. It's obvious you know the letters, but a certainty you lack knowledge of the truth! And without the knowledge of the truth, the sum-total of all you know equates to ignorance in truth.

You asked me to read the explanation of other apostles concerning the biblical account of creation as though it was exclusive to them.

You can't read to know the truth, because that knowledge can only be given by God. So ask God to give you that knowledge, so that you'd be set free from the bondage your ignorance of the truth.

Christianity Etc › Re: Thread To Thank God For Saving Nigeria, Africa From Full Impact Of Fatal Covid19 by BackllGodNaija(op): 11:29pm On Jul 26, 2020

FatherOfJesus:
If your country had a proper database, you would have no cause to thank me.

Nairaland fatherofjesus, thank God for the brain He gave you which you're being a waste of.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What My Phone Did When I Told It To Prove To Me That Its Maker Exists - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 11:25pm On Jul 26, 2020

ublight:
hahaha.

Olodo himself.

When an olodo calls you an olodo, rejoice and be exceedingly glad because it means you're anything but an olodo!

Christianity Etc › Re: Without The Omniscient,Science Would Be Silent: Science Is Proof That God Exists by BackllGodNaija(op): 11:13pm On Jul 26, 2020

And they still think that Biblical stories were fairy tales?

Fools would be fools for as long as they want to remain fools!

https://www.nairaland.com/6016763/archaeology-explorers-99.9-sure-remains

Christianity Etc › Re: What My Phone Did When I Told It To Prove To Me That Its Maker Exists - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 4:21pm On Jul 26, 2020*

^^^^^Lolz! cheesy

How ironic! A phone now proves its maker's existence by just making a comment about its maker. My phone could also do that if that alone is what it takes to prove its maker's existence according to the logic of the atheists! Ha! Ha!! Ha!!!

Modified: An atheist calling for backup and being the first and only one on this thread to do so stinks of desperation.

Christianity Etc › Re: Was The Song "Why You Too Dey Copy Copy?" Actually Speaking Of Science? by BackllGodNaija(op): 2:10pm On Jul 26, 2020

^^^^^Copy copy master.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Gave Some A Brain, And The Best They Could Do With It Is Doubt His Existence by BackllGodNaija(op): 2:07pm On Jul 26, 2020

OtemAtum:
There's no single point in everything you made here. Also, based on the fact that scinece is using the things of God to discover and invent stuffs, we don't have arguments there too, because Science is a subset of God(Totality of Existence) but it has the most concentrated form of God in it, unlike religion that are making use of a very diluted form of God. While Science keep discovering the true nature of Existence(God Almighty), religion is obsessed with discovering the nature of the gods(aka Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Ahura Mazda, El, Enki, Enlil, etc.)

Concerning your second point, currently there is no invention made by humans to take a snapshot of the spiritual things and bring them to our physical earth here. Maybe we should wait for science to invent it, or what do you think? Will religion invent it before science does?

It's obvious that you wouldn't see any point since you suffer from truth-blindness, for someone who could make the ridiculous excuse of the margin between the rich and poor to explain the low deaths in Africa from Covid-19 compared to the most scientifically advanced nations. You had to add that one because the excuse of hot weather has been destroyed by the rainy season which has been in full swing for over months now in most parts of Africa.

Science your god and master is my servant and the proof of that is if this message gets to you, because na me send am the message, which means you're my grand-servant. Meanwhile enjoy being the waste of the brain God gave to you with your unprovable imaginations.

Christianity Etc › Re: Thread To Thank God For Saving Nigeria, Africa From Full Impact Of Fatal Covid19 by BackllGodNaija(op): 1:44pm On Jul 26, 2020

Bodydialect57:
In everything and for everything, l give God praise

Yes oh! He deserves it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What My Phone Did When I Told It To Prove To Me That Its Maker Exists - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 1:42pm On Jul 26, 2020

ublight:
mehn... This logic is flawed. And for the fact that u can not see the flaw, jokes on u

On the atheists you mean? I deliberately used their flawed logic here so if you're one of them, the jokes actually on ya'll.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by BackllGodNaija(op): 1:38pm On Jul 26, 2020

psucc:
it's a double loss for the same person.

How do you mean? Please explain.

Christianity Etc › Re: Some May Trust In Science,Some May Trust In Technology, But We Will Trust In God by BackllGodNaija(op): 1:37pm On Jul 26, 2020

Psalms 22:4
Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.

Christianity Etc › Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by BackllGodNaija(op): 9:13am On Jul 26, 2020*

Who Loses When A Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist?

I've noticed that most people here who claim to have left Christianity to become atheists, were never saved in the first place but just church-going sinners.

So yes, they may know the church language, observed some of their practices, been church workers and regularly attended church activities, paid their tithes, prayed and fasted sometimes. Some may have even been ordained leaders in the church, however at the same they were walking in the counsel of the ungodly, standing in the way of sinners, sitting in the sit of the scornful. In other words, they honored God with their mouths and lips, but their hearts were far from Him just as it was said of the Pharisees in the days of Jesus.

So it's just like one of such Pharisees coming out to say that he no longer believes in God or in His existence, or that he was dumping religion despite never being saved but a religious sinner all the while and a sure candidate for hell fire, which is more like someone leaving a hot pot to enter into a hot kettle. It's still the same fire, and the movement is only done in the head and not real.

However the reaction that usually greeted the declaration of such church-going sinners that they've become atheist is one of fanfare as though any change had occurred in reality, and as if it makes any genuine difference as one who was once saved backsliding and become a sinner.

But despite that there is rejoicing and possible lamentations on Earth because of such developments, in heaven it would be business as usual, because the person's name was never in book of life anyway, therefore it wouldn't be a case of a soul which had been won already becoming lost or going astray which would be a big deal.

Even in hell, where Satan who desires to win souls for his kingdom more than anything else, the reaction would be the same as that of heaven, since the soul's name had been in the book of death all the while, so it wouldn't make any difference. And I can imagine the devil even asking the keepers of the book of death, "did any new name enter into the book?" because of the rejoicing on Earth as though he'd won a soul. But he'd be told that the person's name had always been in the book and never left.

Hence he'd ask, "so what's all this fuss on Earth about as though I had won someone new?". Then he'd mock those of his rejoicing, saying, "don't mind those fools, that's why I'd keep using their brains to be drinking hell pepper soup"

So even the devil who they belong to would not be impressed with their rejoicing, because he can only do that when he wins a soul, and the souls of such church-going sinners who become atheists are not considered souls he'd won because he always had them in the bag anyway.

Therefore except it's a saved soul whose name was written in the book of life that becomes lost, or a soul whose name was once not written there but inside the book of death, which becomes saved and enters into the book of life, the rejoicing on Earth is just in vain, and a movement made only in the head but not in reality.

So it's not about claiming to want to leave religion or become an atheist, when you were never saved in the first place, but just a religious or church-going sinner. If you truly want to make a movement on Earth that moves heaven or hell, you have to become saved from being a sinner, otherwise no one really wins or loses in your case.

God bless Nigeria.

Christianity Etc › Re: How God Created Light Before The Sun - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 8:29am On Jul 26, 2020

Mathscum:
You sabi Bible.

Good for you o.
The issue Na to apply am for our life no be to know am

The issue is neither to sabi Bible nor to apply it in your life, but to know the Truth and walk in the Truth. I know the Truth and walk in the Truth, but do you?

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Christianity Etc › Re: What My Phone Did When I Told It To Prove To Me That Its Maker Exists - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 8:26am On Jul 26, 2020

So does it mean it's maker doesn't exist?

Christianity Etc › Re: How God Created Light Before The Sun - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 10:49pm On Jul 25, 2020

Genesis 1:16-19
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

So this was where the sun came into the picture. It was the greater light that God made to rule over the day, while the moon which was the lesser light was made to rule over the night, therefore the night was no longer total darkness for it now had its own light. And God also made the other lights called the stars which we see at night also.

Lastly, someone else brought up an argument of the moon not being a light as it was called in the above passage, but only a reflection of light, but I assumed that the person couldn't comprehend what it meant to be a lesser light than the sun. Perhaps the person should just try and remove the moon from the sky first, if that's what it'd take for him to understand how the moon itself is a light.

A lesser light could mean the reflection of a greater light, just as Jesus was the greater light of the world, while His disciples who were a reflection of His light, were also said to be light of the world.

For there to be the possibility of having a light that would suit the idea of providing light for the night and still retaining the darkness, it had to be the reflection of a greater light. And that was exactly what God made the moon to be in the beginning.

I think these answers should suffice for those asking such questions concerning the biblical account of the light(s) that God made in the beginning.

God bless Nigeria.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How God Created Light Before The Sun - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 10:48pm On Jul 25, 2020

So from the first ever day on Earth, we proceed to the day the sun was made which was said to be the fourth day.

Genesis 1:14-15
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

The above instance was basically why I advised for the precedent of the first day before light was, to be noted, because God said a similar thing here as He did on that occasion, and it again happened as He had said which could make it to be really confusing and difficult to reconcile. Hence the need to note the precedent because that's what distinguishes between the two instances, for then the precedent was absolute darkness, but in this case a new precedent had been set, which is that "there was light'.

Also while at first it was "let there be light", in this instance it was "let there be lights" to show that while the 'light" at the beginning was called into existence out of nothing, "lights" in this instance was called forth out of something...and it was out of that light that God already created in the first day out of nothing, that God called forth the lights that He made on the fourth day, for that light of the day 1 was the source of all the other lights that God made on day 4.

Moreover the lights which God made on this occasion were specially designed according to the respective purposes they would serve, which made it possible for there to be a variety of lighting patterns, forms and sizes to enable for the marking and distinguishing of seasons, years, leap years and so on. Remember prior to this development, it was just straightforward night (full darkness) and day (full light) every day with no real difference, but the different kinds of lights brought about many possibilities such as that of a day to be brighter than another, a night to be darker than another, and that of a longer day and shorter night and vice versa etc.

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Christianity Etc › How God Created Light Before The Sun - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 10:47pm On Jul 25, 2020*

How God Created Light Before The Sun: The Answer To An Atheist's Question

I saw a thread sometime ago where a question about this was raised I suppose by an atheist in a bid to ridicule the Biblical account of creation, and ultimately God the Creator. Although it may have appeared to some, including the Op as a very brilliant and intelligent question which bolsters the argument being made against God, however once sighting it, I thought it was as unintelligent and ignorant as they could possibly come, since the answer to the question was right there in the same place in the Bible from whence the question was drawn.

So if the person who raised the question was really that intelligent, he should have also been able to derive the answer to the question from the same Biblical account given of creation, hence there'd be no need for the public display of his ignorance.

That's what happens when someone tries to use his limited knowledge to draw conclusions from things which transcend its scope.

Without further ado let's go back to the Biblical account of creation where the question emanated to get the answer on how God created light before the sun.

Genesis 1:2-3
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Please take note of the precedent before the light came into existence because that's where many miss it, and once that happens, it's hard to get it right anywhere else. I also heard some attribute the light that was at this point to the glory of God's presence, but the above instance rules that idea out, because if God Himself was the light, He wouldn't have had to command light to be before there was light. Moreover God was said to have seen the appearance of light that He had brought into existence on Earth as a good development.

Genesis 1:4-5
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Now from the above passage it could be observed that it was only after God had divided the light He created from the darkness before anything such as day and night came into existence, and that those were the respective names God gave to the light and darkness after He'd divided them. It also showed that the division was time based, in other words the light and darkness were divided to occur at different intervals, which set the stage for the first ever evening and morning and consequently the first full day on Earth

Christianity Etc › Re: Thread To Thank God For Saving Nigeria, Africa From Full Impact Of Fatal Covid19 by BackllGodNaija(op): 8:58pm On Jul 25, 2020

frank317:
Thanking a useless idea in ur head... Someone that cannot even say 'u are welcome' when u thank him, what can he do?

So those who have lost people to covid 19 in Nigeria who should they thank?

Thank Him for not making you brainless for calling Him such...

Christianity Etc › Re: Thread To Thank God For Saving Nigeria, Africa From Full Impact Of Fatal Covid19 by BackllGodNaija(op): 8:56pm On Jul 25, 2020

HappyPagan:
What exactly did He do?

He gave you a brain for you to ask that question

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Christianity Etc › Re: Some May Trust In Science,Some May Trust In Technology, But We Will Trust In God by BackllGodNaija(op): 8:50pm On Jul 25, 2020

Psalms 21:7
For the king trusteth in the LORD, and through the mercy of the most High he shall not be moved.

Christianity Etc › Re: Was The Song "Why You Too Dey Copy Copy?" Actually Speaking Of Science? by BackllGodNaija(op): 4:00pm On Jul 25, 2020

Science, why you too dey copy copy, ehn??

Christianity Etc › Re: Thread To Thank God For Saving Nigeria, Africa From Full Impact Of Fatal Covid19 by BackllGodNaija(op): 12:31pm On Jul 25, 2020

Thank you Father. I can't take what you did for granted

Christianity Etc › Re: Without The Omniscient,Science Would Be Silent: Science Is Proof That God Exists by BackllGodNaija(op): 12:27pm On Jul 25, 2020

Science na copy copy. Has not achieved one single thing without copying.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Gave Some A Brain, And The Best They Could Do With It Is Doubt His Existence by BackllGodNaija(op): 12:23pm On Jul 25, 2020

OtemAtum:
Science discovered it recently. Has your religion ever discovered it?

At least science helped in curtailing its spread to some extent and some drugs were even used to help some people recover faster. Also ventilators help a lot. What did religion do? Nothing

There's nothing in Existence that's not part of God Almighty. Science is not the opposite of God Almighty, rather it is the most concentrated part of God Almighty in developing the universes.

Our hot weather helped us a lot. Also, the wide margin between the rich and the poor help us too. For example, how often does a poor or an average man get to meet with the extremely rich people who have the Corona Virus? These extremely rich people had the Corona Virus, but because they are far from us, they could only spread it among themselves. Assuming the common men and the rich people meet frequently in our country, by now the Virus would have gone viral beyond imagination. Also, our hot weather is a good factor in putting the virus to check.

By the way, you said nothing about the picture I asked you to show me of the person you said was in a cage...or maybe that's a confirmation it's just a figment of the imaginations of your wasted brain which God gave you.[/color]

Oh boy see excuses lol! Weather that became cold over two months is still used as an excuse, even though it was flimsy when the weather was hot. And then the new one, margin between the extremely rich and poor?? Guy, you'd have had more dignity left if you just admitted that it was a unusual outcome even if you don't want to credit God with it. I mean how low can your obsession against God get?

As for Coronavirus, science had to do copy copy from God's creation to be able to identify it otherwise it would be chasing shadows. And the reason it wasn't able to match the virus was because it still has a lot to learn from God's school. It's still at kindergarten level lol.

Btw you've not still responded to my request for you to show me a picture of who you said was in a cage. Or is the cave beyond your reach? Science your God is my servant and the proof of that is if this message gets to you because that's what I'm using to send this message. So prove yours except it fake and you're truly a waste of the brain that God gave to you.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Gave Some A Brain, And The Best They Could Do With It Is Doubt His Existence by BackllGodNaija(op): 7:58am On Jul 25, 2020

OtemAtum:
It's obvious who or what was humbled by Covid-19 between religion and science. Let's do the analysis:

Science discovered the Covid-19. Religion would have thought that it is a demonic attack on humans.

Science invented the preventive measures. Religion have to obey it.

All scientific inventions and facilities were put to use to curtail the disease. All religious gatherings were shut down because of the disease.

People infected were taken to scientific hospitals and isolation centres. All religious gatherings are shut down.

Scientists used drugs to make people recover faster. Holy water, morning water, evening water, olive oil etc are shunned.

And it goes on and on...

Now tell me which is winning, Science or Religion

Lol! Let's clap for science your god for only discovering of recent a virus that has existed for several years, maybe it didn't exist before then lol! Let's clap for science your god for being almost useless when the most scientifically advanced nations on Earth needed it's help the most, as they were helpless to stop the deaths of hundreds of thousands of their citizens...let's clap for science for copying from God for the little it was able to use to help those nations... let's also clap for science for making the so-called religious and scientifically backward Africa to be able to contain covid-19 more than the their scientifically advanced counterparts... science is really winning from the back lol!

By the way, you said nothing about the picture I asked you to show me of the person you said was in a cage...or maybe that's a confirmation it's just a figment of the imaginations of your wasted brain which God gave you.

Christianity Etc › Re: What My Phone Did When I Told It To Prove To Me That Its Maker Exists - jesusjnr by BackllGodNaija(op): 7:27am On Jul 25, 2020

That settles it.

Hmmm...

Christianity Etc › Re: Some May Trust In Science,Some May Trust In Technology, But We Will Trust In God by BackllGodNaija(op): 7:26am On Jul 25, 2020

Psalms 20:7
Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.

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