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grandstar:
Religion isn't the problem. False religion is.

The Bible tells us God is love. (1 John 4:8. Though the Bible condemns homosexuality, it also condemns a variety of other sins (Read 1 Cor 6:9-11). Why pick on a vulnerable minority? And you persecuting gays, do you sleep with everything in skirts as well as desecrate the marriage bed? (Read Romans 2:21-24) First remove the iroko tree in your eye before you see the splinter in your neighbours eye.

Homophobia isn't Christian. It is the opposite of the golden rule (Matthew 7:12). True Christian's commission was to make disciples of men (Read Matthews 28:19-20). It was not to fight homosexuality, fornication, drunkenness or stealing. It was to make disciples of men. If you stop fornicating but you refuse to become a follower of the Christ, it is worthless.. Pentecostal homophobics always pick on gays and pay lip service to immorality in their midst.

There is a proper way to declare the Good News as Jesus demonstrates in Matthew 10:11-14. Nowhere did it involve threatening those we preach to. At all times. they were to dispkay exemplary conduct to those they preach to (Read 2 Timothy 2:24-25).

Don't blame Jehovah, blame false religion especially false Christian's. They disown him by their works (Read Titus 1:16)

All religions including yours are false. But I admire your tolerance. The death of any religion will be delayed by it.

Alum34:
Gay lord on the loose.����

Yep. According to irredemably stupid, dumb and fascistic third world brainwashed religious bigots, anyone who supports the rights and choice of innocent people on their sexuality is also a 'gay lord.'

Just relax and watch how religious apologists will be quick to jeer at this man for his untimely death. Forgetting that we all are humans before Christians, Muslims, LGBT or Anti-LGBT.

Yet another proof that religion was never invented to promote peace. Be it local or international.

PrinceCEE:
Certainly, I can't engage you in an argument because you reek of dyslexia.

I wasn't against your beliefs nor your war against religion, I was just pointing you to the point that you brought a topic totally unrelated to the thread here. Is it too much to understand ?

Maybe, I should say, boy, use your brain next time you wander into a thread.

Who cares what you think about my posts? GTF out of my mentions you plastic melt.

danhiels:
don't dress scantily: carefully avoids and minimize obscene behaviour like sexual harassment and rape. we could use more of that in this world. don't drink achohol (not too much of it anyway is what religious books say):actually curtails violence and abuse in so many homes and societies. we definitely need more of that... don't abort the baby stay @ home:abortion is the taking away of the life of a potential human being with potentials yet unknown. that's actually murder of person and resource (we want none of that)and if actually women can actually balance their lives (career women or otherwise) and that of their marriage/family, we would see a drastic reduction of divorces and separation . our grandmas actually stayed at home and we barely saw marriages that lasted 6 months .nobody. wants a broken home especially not the kids we are trying to bring into this world
finally don't dance don't laugh:there is no church in this world (don't know 2% bout Muslims and mosque) where you go and would not see one of those or both or more at the same time, no church anywhere! even my bible encourages us to make merry for our God is a God of Happiness (the biblical David danced till he was almost naked) you kid now but you'll understand when you get older.. alright?

Religion doesn't define morality. Else, priests wouldn't be raping little kids, Christians and Muslims wouldn't be slaughtering one another and religious wars would be inexistent.

danhiels:
why y'all are trying to shove this ' no religion ' thing down our throats beats me, really! can u not be on your zone and let us the foolish sheeps to bask in our foolishness and be on our own nevertheless the bible warned us ages ago so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised

I have no time to banter with brainwashed religious bigots.

Roman7:
And what has Adam and Eve plus the three sons they had got to do with this?

I'm not responsible for your inability to see the lies in your so-called holy book.

am4truth:
You missed it, friend. it is the love of God that would make a father and his son go against each other. You have to make a choice to obey God or your earthly father. The scripture needs to be fulfilled regarding concerning his life. Friend, I repeat I have said worst things concerning Christianity, but today I know better. Pray sincerely from your heart that Christ Jesus should reveal himself to you. I love you, but Christ loves you more.

What "love" would seperate a father and son? You understand what love means?

I care less what you've said about Christianity. Doesn't make the religion less false than it is.

The Christian god is plain evil.

eelbay:
Roman 6:23
For the wages of sin is death ; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


I hope you understand.
Goodnight

Using Bible verses to justify the authenticity of the Bible? Lmao can't say I'm surprised. How else would a dogmatised religionist explain a book written by drunk misogynistic men?

Khaleell001:
Al-khwarizmi,Jabbbir bin Hayyan, Al-haytam atee all religious scientist who contributed immensely to the world of science
Charles Darwin was also religious .
These men and more were people of Abraham faith and yet ,they laid the foundation for what your likes can now boast about thinking religion is now a problem.

When you reduce man to mere particles of atoms then and there he loses his essence.

After all, science don't tell us what is good, what is selfless and what is sympathetic; religion do and people like you with your upside down thinking can go and bang you head on the wall for all we care.

We don't need you to validate anything we do.

I don't banter with irredemably stupid bigots brainwashed by mythical tales.

PrinceCEE:
Lol...

You seem to channel the premises of your arguments on Christianity. Why not other religions?

I know, you'd say you've mentioned Islam, but, go back through your comments and see that you seem to be attacking Christianity.

Majority of Nigerians ignorantly leave the domain of discussion and prevaricate to another, it's not a must to comment on a thread, if you don't have any thing of relevance to contribute.

You have a strong argument, I'm nonreligious, I'm a deist, I was an atheist, not until I had quite a good number of reasons to be a deist. So I clearly understand your point, but I'd advise you to always know when to bring a discourse to the right place.

Nothing about this thread relates to existence.

Now to the topic, I once respected Freeze, but he's becoming more of a noise these days, probably to remain relevant. Where did he see Christians judge the guy? Or more to say, he seems to know the affiliated religions of all those that commented about the guy, both on twitter and other social networks?
Why'd he bring it up on Christians.

Some people are just slowpokes... That it makes me wonder if they ever uses their brain...!

I couldn't care less if you've once been a Buddhist or who you respect or you don't respect. Christianity is as bad as Islam. And like I said, both are tools of modern slavery.

Counter my premise with facts or forever remain silent.

am4truth:
Jesus loves you, friend. Don't allow the devil- the deceiver to waste your life. Repent before it gets late. i have said worst than this concerning Christianity, but today, am for truth.

The same Jesus that came to set a father and his son against each other? That Jesus that died in the middle east so, I, an African can be saved? From what he will do to me if I don't accept him? Lmao

belshazzar:
now now we've got ourselves here an idiot, haven't we? i saw your profile kid, you're disgusting....

Right back at you, Religious retard.

Inteltower:
I have observed your arguments so let's by logic
enlighten you on the Existence of God .am a grad
sociologist.
in studying man in the society... here are basic
facts
man is inherently social & subject to being social &
by social he relates with his fellow man,
environment & resources, & reasonably man can't
survive or progress long being anti social.
with what has been established above we can draw
to this conclusion where there is Social there is
dependency, where there is dependency there is
functionalism, where there is functionalism there is
order, where there is order there is a design.
this will lead us back to the concept "Social"
I have developed a sociological theorem called
"social orderism" in here it emphasizes that the
universe itself began from an existencial design
(contenders: Darwinism, Creationism, Big bang
theory).

First, Darwinism says NOTHING about the origin of the universe or the planet for that matter. Evolution deals with what happened immediately after the first life was formed. So your first premise is flawed.

Inteltower:
The first & last fail to concur to the earlier linear
concepts that lead to each other in a defining
circle & which you my friend can't refute on those
facts outlined. Darwinism fails to explain why
humans are social

Again, wrong. Darwinism does explain why humans are social. The earliest humans faced a lot of woes, from lack of food to exposure to predators and harsh weather conditions.
Humans who could come together and communicate had a better chance of chasing away predators, taking shifts to protect the group at night, forming tools etc and consequently, evolving faster. Natural selection is why we have evolved to be social creatures. Yet another fail for you.

Inteltower:
& big bang theory fails to
explain at the heart of their assumption why your
eyes are at the position they are & even why must
there be eyes, did the so called micro organism in
the great big bang had a meeting to discuss which
body parts to make & their positions , why the
complex yet simple inter dependent functioning of
the human parts.

Our bodily parts assemble the way they are because our DNA encodes for it. Did you ever take biology classes? If our DNA was changed at any point, our bodily formation would too. That's basic genetics. No intelligent design myth fits in there.

Inteltower:
First of look at yourself in the mirror, you have parts right?
in your "belief" it means the environment & human cells were blessed with intelligence to decide it needed an ear, tongue, brain, eye lashes etc even to be at the different places they are now. .

If you were god, you would make food and air pass through the same pipe? Do you know how many people have died because of this "intelligent design?" The human body has at least 10 design flaws. Pointed out by anatomists and surgeons. Your argument holds no water.

Inteltower:
ur problem isn't the belief... but your downright unwillingness to listen & be open minded.. ask me question & I will answer you.
stop being misguided by self conception but revelation

If anyone is intentionally being ignorant and unable to accept facts that have been proven because of what they read in a book written by cave men, it's you. Your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Inteltower:
Creationism answers the questions of design &
why man is social to me.. much closer than the
two which atheists subscribe too.
having explained the reason why a God exist by
these clear facts

1. Not all Atheists subscribe to the big bang theory. Some say "We don't know." Since actually no one can say for sure how the universe started. But we can extrapolate from available data and I can tell you without doubt that Creationists is for the mentally lazy.

Inteltower:
Now why the Christian God not Allah or Buddha
etc.
its because of three important things
1)Salvation from sin & death through Christ (here
Islam failed) it recognized our corrupted flaws &
unwanted behaviours that harms us & each other.
(read & learn more insight of that salvation plan)
2) the two commandments of love received from
Christ
3) the vital role of the Holy spirit in the world now
& personally.

Usual Religious jargon.

Inteltower:
I hope this helps...
I agree only a fool would say there is no God
but also a cursed man would know & see the truth
but doesn't want to believe out of enmity because
how God's will runs counter to theirs.
thanks

No, only fools believe in mythical stories that have zero proof and numerous plot holes. Religious retards will believe anything as long as it fits in to their fictional religious texts. While they will reject anything that attempts to expose it for the lie it is.

But one thing about science is, IT IS TRUE WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE IT.

A large majority of Muslims are too ignorant. It seems stupidity is definitely a requirement to be a follower of the Religion of peace

Inteltower:
how did humanity began ?
that's the only question I have you dear aethist

& pls don't make reference to Darwinism or big bang theory that can not clearly state the apparent design (functionalism) of the human race

How did humanity begin? That's easy; As a result of LONG years of continuous adaptation and evolution. This is a proven fact. Unlike your creationist bullshït.

And no. Your ability to grasp this simple concept is not a valid argument against it.

alBHAGDADI:
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Keep following Freeze until you end in hell where he belongs. [/s]

Usual fear mongering.

Christianity is like all other 4000+ religions, a lie that only pleases hypocritic and ignorant minds. It will eventually die as it does not belong in a sane person's mind. Let alone he dedicates his whole life to defending it.

sgtponzihater1:
Why he focuses only on Christians beats my imagination.

Christians are equally as oppressive as Islam. Especially when they're the majority, as is the case in the Southern part of Nigeria.

It might be a slightly better option to Islam. But both religions are actually two sides of the same coin and are for completely insane and ignorant people.

I, for one, look forward to the death of Abrahamic religions. And at the rate quality education spreads, it doesn't look too far in sight.

Every Tom, Dïčk and Harry knows that fundamental Christians represented by a large majority of the Nigerian population are SHAMELESS HYPOCRITES.


They would all come for Naira Marley while they fear to castigate bigger scam artists in their pastors who milk them of the little they have.

Religion has been rejected in the progressive world and it is coming to Africa to settle and gain ground. It's up to me and you to resist this madness that is peculiar to Religion and it's followers.

Good move. This is a perilous time for yahoo boys. The recent arrest of top fraudsters has fueled the morale of EFCC operatives to go for their wards as well.

If you are one of them, this is a period to lay low. Else, you might be caught in the unforgiving EFCC fishing net.

What EFCC is doing to G-guys right now:

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God killed more people than Satan did in the Bible.

That alone say a lot about who's evil.

themanderon:
Scoffers will scoff, mockers will mock, a soul that is destined for destruction cannot be saved. They have been there since the days of Noah and we all know how they ended.
Look at that airplane that had some turbulence the other day, people where screaming and calling on God for help. Some may be people that have rejected God previously. That's the nature of man, always stiff necked and rebellious until something sudden comes upon him and he starts seeking for salvation.

Wrong. Your religion thrives on fear and that's because it's baseless and inherently false.

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I agree with her. Abrahamic religions are tools of modern slavery.

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lenghtinny:
I'm not talking about any god...

I'm not here to convert you to a Muslim or Christian or convince you that this things are real or fake...

Calling my experience an anecdote is an insult to me but I'll take it still...

Cheers...

I'm sorry you find it offensive. Do you understand the meaning of an anecdote?

jesusjnr:
At least you'd agree with me that you've never heard from anyone that you're proof-blind to God's existence before.

You already believe that God exists, since you believe in science, and science itself is a proof of God's existence, for without the existence of the creation of God, science would not exist.

And without the existence of God, the creation would not exist, for science to exist.

For science only exists because of the creation of God, for science creates nothing but depends absolutely on the creation of God to be able to do anything.

So without God science can do nothing.

By the way you said that you believe air exists because it can be measured and scientifically demonstrated, so did you actually know that there was a time when science couldn't measure and demonstrate the existence of air?

Therefore would the fact that the capacity of science had not developed to the point where it is able to prove the existence of air mean that air doesn't exist?

So why not wait till science is developed to the point where it's at least able to prove God's existence or the otherwise before you start drawing unfounded conclusions that He doesn't exist as if you have scientific proof of that already.

Your post is so ignorant I don't know where to start from. You just went from one end of the uninformed spectrum to the other.

But at least you acknowledge that God's existence is not proved. That's a relief that you're not too far gone in the pit of religious stupidity. Have a good one though.

Oh and lastly, I don't 'believe' in science. At least not in the way you all believe in imaginary friends without proof. I can't help your delusion. Just keep it away from the state and little children.


Last response from me to you. Cheers.

modik:
Your question about what God depends on is akin to a robot asking a robotic engineer how he (the engineer) came to existence or the current that drives him(the Engineer) . I can't be happy at your seemingly bad condition. Questioning God's origin is the direct result of such condition.
Lol

People have freewill to chose from right or wrong and such powers remain exclusively theirs without any question.

Little wonder Judas was among the twelve disciples.

Fixed!
https://creation.com/who-created-god

This is my last reply to you. I don't want to have anything to do with brainwashed fascistic misogynistic Religitards who are happy to know that an unbeliever is depressed.

lenghtinny:
Bro I'm not religious but spiritual but like that dude mentioned, everything depends on something.

Just like you, there was a time I thought everything was physical and nothing was spiritual. To me I thought I was right because I was being realistic until I had a direct experience.

There are indeed there are lots of unimaginable and unbelievable things that goes underneath this blue sky that defies logic but yet they happen. The Greeks call it Metaphysika because it controls the physical.

That's why I laugh when people try to relate sex with depression... When you feel hopeless and powerless, tell me how a hard prick or wet vagina will make you powerful

//Bro I'm not religious but spiritual but like that dude mentioned, everything depends on something. //

If everything depends on something, what does god depend on?
You can't categorise every other thing under a premise and then exclude your god when it is his turn.


//Just like you, there was a time I thought everything was physical and nothing was spiritual. //

Got proof for this? If no, Then I don't believe you.

//To me I thought I was right because I was being realistic until I had a direct experience.//

Anecdotes are not evidence, sorry.

jesusjnr:
So do you think you have something to say now to me that this former atheist who experienced God healing had not said before to someone who believes in God?

Maybe you should go and see some of his former posts, for i have, and it's almost as if you're replaying his comments, for it's the same flimsy excuses he was using then.

The only difference is that he got healed of his proof-blindness of God's existence, so unless you get your own healing, don't expect to see the proof of God's existence as he now does.

Also, what statement do you think you will make that I haven't heard before? Threaten with hell? Death? Assert that I'm -proof blind(whatever that word means anyway) as you've done?

Save your strength, mate.

Science is the now and the future. All religions will die, including yours. And I, for one, would not mourn it's passing.

modik:
Hahahaha,

If everything depends on something, no car without an Engineer, no Skyscraper without architect, yet you think the world evolved without a creator, your skeletal frame and cognitive ability was never designed and engineered by a Supreme being, whatever you chose to call Him, then, being depressed for such a fellow is inevitable.

Think! <if you can>

If everything depends on something, what does god depend on?
See the flaw in your logic?

By the way, you seem glad that someone who doesn't believe in your god is undergoing a bad condition. Yet another reason to justify my decision -dumping religion for good.