₦airaland Forum

ibkaye:
Bleh, fair enough, therefore the pastors should be the object of ridicule, not the religion itself, the OP is a muslim you say? And he has the cheek to be ridiculing the whole religion based on what some members of the religion in question did?

Wow.

(This does not mean in anyway that I am beefing Islam o)

Of course, except the Op is a fool or an entirely new breed of a war genius,
If you want to fight or ridicule an abstract thing like religion, if you keep talking about the religion you will end up fighting air, the best thing to do is to stage out some bad practioners of the religion and stain their reputes,expose the evil they do in the name of the religion and that will help you do  the desired  damage.

If am were God, i will kill every male and women from the age of 11.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=299409.msg4225475#msg4225475 date=1248195799]Is he!!!!! How did a poor dirty and hungry man have the money to marry multiple wives like you stated before?

Your mama no born you well. And your father may be an ape- go ask her.[/quote]let us post our pics, please, i dont mind bringing my family out to the public just to let you know that some families are beauty trade marks.

Your father was able to marry many old women and widows out of  their helplesness.

ibkaye:
Exactly, I noticed a number of people in the religion section like to base their 'facts' on assumptions, it's stupid.

My answer to question 1 is that personally I see it as morally wrong, and to question 2, my answer is no. Then again, that's not the point I'm trying to make, my point is that one should not judge an entire religion based on some of the members, no one is perfect, this applies in terms of religion, not trying to justify the bad things done by members of any religion by the way, I'm just saying, it's not fair to generalise, the OP addressed the problem of these pastors as if every single existing pastor is like this.

We all know , The OP is a moslim and he was trying to ridicule christianity that was why i cautioned him in my first reply,
But the gospel truth is that you can not make your self an object of ridicule and you expect your enemies to keep quiet, it is left for you christians to call yourselves to proper order.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=299409.msg4225240#msg4225240 date=1248193830]come, do you have a personal problem with my dad? Is it his fault he's goodlooking while[b] you are ugly?[/b]

No, not my "dad and his numerous wives". My dad has ONE wife.



I mean [size=14pt]NIGERIAN MEN [/size] and their insatiable appetite for women- concubines, mistresses, polygamy, you name it.[/quote]HA haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahaa ha, you are funny, your Dad tha is a poor,dirty tad ugly hungry old man,
Post your pics let me post mine, if you dont strip, no that i am not a human been. you will see that a guy can be very handsome.

Dorathy Ogbonna mind your self before i screw you.

ibkaye:
Even if they are fraudsters (not in any way saying they are, I wouldn't know), don't judge a whole religion based on what some members of the religion are doing, that's where the term generalisation comes in.

Another thing, it is now a sin to have money?

Absolutely not, personaly, i fancy flamboyant life, what the heck did we come on earth to do ?

But i trow back the following two questions to you and i want you to answer them objectively,
1,If a pastor buys a 4.7 billion naira personal  jet ( plus inevitable future maintainance and running cost) during the time of dire economic crisis while over 80% of his congregation are dirty poor, Is it moraly right or wrong ?

2, dou you think Jesus christ himself would have done the same thing ?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=299409.msg4225087#msg4225087 date=1248192810]Do I lie? [/quote]Next time use Did i lie ?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=299409.msg4225069#msg4225069 date=1248192708]hmmm- hit a nerve I see.


I'm talking from Nigerian experience.[/quote]Your Dad and his numerous wives ?

mactao:
1. To start with, the pastors in Nigeria who are rich are only a very tiny fraction. Like someone said, it's very unfair to judge the whole Christian community by only a few people.

2. Could your prove that any pastor is a fraudster? In case you didn't know, here's what the Bible says about wealth:

Deut 8:18
But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.
KJV

Being wealthy is a hundred and ten percent scriptural.

3. Could you prove that any pastor is a member of a secret cult?

Please answer.

Dont even go that side before you invite me on this thread.

I think ,marriage between Ogaga4luv and May Kelly  will be BEST MATCH.

Do you as well think so ?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=299409.msg4224789#msg4224789 date=1248190602]the OP doesnt mean jumbo jet. He's referring to anything that can fly. In Nigeria, there's no distinction.

So yes, a doctor or accountant can buy a private jet if they're rich enough and have that kind of exposure.

However, in a country where the ultimate Nigerian dream is amass as many women as possible, a lot of the rich people there have the same goals as illiterates, I'm sorry to say.[/quote]are you talking out of family experience ?

How many churches are on your street ?.

If you want to buy a private jet in Nigeria, there are certain kind of bisiness you should do ,
1, Politics,
2, Open your own Church,
3, Have a multi billion naira business,
4, sports,

medical and accounting carea is completely out of it, go and live your average life. good luck in your rented flat apartment.

I need emabssy of Kossovo,Zimbabwe,sudan and Niger republic.

If a hungry man brings people together and declear himself a man of god = that is miracle.
If he builds a big audiorium for the progress of his business with poor peoples money= that is miracle.
If he buys a private jet with poor peoples money( during the time of dire economic crisis)= that is miracle.
If he blocks a national highway every months without being questioned= that is miracle.
If he make an ambiguous statement in the name of prophecy and it inevitably hits the target= that is miracle.
If a man was short before going for a crusade and after the crusade he becomes tall= that is miracles.

there are plenty of them,

Give a big handdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd.

D lawd is good.

@ Abuzola,
I saw in a thread where you said that i  am daring you, if that is a warning or threat,never you repeat it,

You dare Fu**ck with me, I will deal with you mercilesly.

It is not a threat, just a simple promise.

Flancey:
Banom and Abuzola, your house is crumbling. Thats good news

Keep decieving yourself.

Neptunz:
It is a big shame to christains considering what christainity have turned into, Can you imagine pastors buying Jets,they have fat accounts & properties.Would jesus christ have live this kind of life if he were to have this type of opportunity??.They(pastors) suck their congregation under the cover of tithe, No wonder Fashola decided to tax them considering the millions of Naira they make everyday.Pastors are suppose to be holy men & not FRAUDSTERS.Efcc should be encourage to investigate, They all belong to secret cults for their abacadabra miracle, What is the difference between them<christ embassy,redeem,cannanland,Trem> & Synagogue who also perform miracles but was indicted for using occult powers, What is this mess called ChristainityHoly crap

I am not a christian though, while you are right in what you said about con men exploiting others in the name of God, i think it is wrong for you to say ,What is this mess called christianity, that was very wrong, the problem is not christianity, christianity as a religion is a perfect upright peace and loving religion, the problem is the hard economic situation in nigeria, and lack of fear of God by some animals (con men) who saw the endless oppurtunity in religion as a money making machine and started using the name of God to exploit their fellow Nigerians, another problem is those who follow these con men of god and allow them to exploit them in the name of GOD.

I think there were lots of mistakes, mistrust and sabotage in the whole nation.

i equaly think the author of this thread has some hand in posting the article on the website, he simply invited you to look so that his message will have the desired effect.

Abuzola:
Banom you are daring me

What did i do ?

davidylan:
you are a walking billboard for the fact that smoking is bad for the health.

Are you saying the guy visited Fellas shrine yesterday ?

JeSoul:
Thank you for the suggestion brotha but there's a famous quote amongst us christians that simply goes:
"People may refuse our love or reject our message, but they are defenseless against our prayers"

The one weapon that many of us use in dealing with muslims, atheists and any other hostiles towards the gospel of Jesus Christ is to simply pray for them. I have undertaken that mission with many of my atheist & muslim friends on NL that one day the eyes of their hearts will be opened and the glorious light of the gospel will shine on it.

It is not in every thing that prayer is neccesary.

Flancey:
Who is the greater anti Christ among them?
They hate Christ with a pasion.
Unfortunately they can do NOTHING against the truth.
Jesus is Lord

Abuzola is a young moslem,  while

Banom is  SKD = Senior King of Devil,
The guy is more ruthless than devil himself.

One common mistake i have noticed about most Nigerian girls is that they donk how to be smart and cunny enough to get what they want   from their boyfriends without any hard feelings,

they simply demand money from those guys as if the essence of relationship is for the guy to carry their whole problems and needs, they forget that it is some thing of mutual dependency, most times they have their way with some insecured guys,

when you want to get ,loot or exploit your boyfriend, start first by giving him, occasionaly reject the ones he gives you, give him the impression that you are not after money, you are after love and that you love him so much and you can do any thing for his love, once you have achieved this first task of giving him "false impression of your love for him," then you have opened a bigger room where you can plot your grand exploit,

That is how to do it, and not your usual timid way of asking for your petty needs, ( send me recharge card, buy me Bra, buy  me pant,buy me pad, buy me condom,buy me chewing gum,buy me sweet,buy me ice cream, buy me hair tie ,buy me skirt) like a hungry lizzard.

Who mentioned THE HOLY BANOM in this dirty thread ?
Has the person 4goten that HOLY BANOM & Jakumo are the only people in nairaland that have never being accused of BIAS and PREJUDICE ?
Or is it because they have have not fleeced the flok enough to ride their own private jet ?

I have naticed how Abuzola have emerged as a big source of frustration to some nairaland christians with his constant ridiculing of Bible and christianity in general,

Some christians here have tried to preach to him, saying Jesus loves you, give your lives to christ Etc, some have also exchanged harsh words with him thinking it will make him to stop what he is doing , but result have shown it only helps to fuel him, obviously, he seems as a trouble without a solution, Personaly, I am not a christian neither am i a moslem,( i am an Atheist) but i nurse great sympaty for christians because my parents are christians, and i am going to show NRL christians how to strategise and fight off this tiny thing called Abuzola,  

First you should understand that Abuzola is a moslem, and he has come here with the sole aim of ridiculing the holy Bible and christianity and to provoke christians, in other words, he has decleared war on you christians, and what you should do now is not to be preaching to him to repent , give his life to christ, or the normal christians anthem ( Jesus loves you) all that will make you seem weak and defensive and defensive position in war is SELF DESTRUCTIVE, but what you should do is to DECLEAR WAR ON HIM TOO,

Once you have deleared war on him, then there are three ways to fight him,
they are ,

1, Cold ( Isolation,Silence & Ignore him)
What you nairaland christians are to do here is, not to view,copy or reply what ever thread he authors, no matter what he wrote, be it good,bad,fine or ugly, isolate and ignore any thread or post that has to do with Abuzola, be silent even if he quotes you  or calls you any sort of defamative name,show him no concern and how little he matters to you and your faith, despite what ever he may say about Jesus or christianity , ignore him and make it look like  he is too small for you to waste your time discussing religion with him, no matter how he tries to trick you in, dont fall for his cheap bait. except he is a jobless fool,he will have no other option than to stop his bad acts, the truth is that if you keep replying his thread, he will think that what he says has negative effect on you and that will give him the courage to continue.


2, Go to Islamic section and Blow VERY,VERY,VERY HOT (Be highly exagarative and defamative) Show no mercy or willingness to stop,
Here the first thing you  have to do is to shift the battle terrain to their own Islamic section, when you get there, make post that defame Islamic religion, make it highly infuriating and irritating, twist the Qu'ran in any way you like to back up what ever you are saying and at all cost , do your best to link Abuzola to the thread, make threads like these, PROHPHET MOHAMED DID NOT DIE OF POISON, HE DIED OF HIV/AIDS,  DID PROPHET MOHAMED CONTACT GOHNORIA FROM THE YOUNG AISHA, PROPHET MOHAMED MAY RAPE ABUZOLA'S MOTHER IN PARADISE, if you can't make it as a simple statement, make it as a rhetoric question, example, WHY SHOULD A PROPHET RAPE AN INNOCENT GIRL WITH GOHNORIA ?, WHY SHOULD A PROPHET RAPE INNOCENT DIRTY PROSTITUDES ? HOW CAN A PROPHET SUCK THE womanliness OF A DEAD INNOCENT GIRL ?, if posting it at the Islamic board prooves to be  a battle between you and the modurator, come back here at the main religion section and continue your battle, make post that shows the clear contrast between Jesus christ and prophet Mohamed, post like, MAHAMED RAPED AISHA, JESUS CHRIST PARDONED MARY MAGDALEN, MOHAMED MURDERED UNBELIEVERS, JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR THEM.Your main aim here is to draw Abuzola's attention and make him wast his time discussing negative issues against his own religion,

3, Make Combined Use of Strategy 1&2,
Here you have double aims, one is  to Isolate and ignore him and force him to stop making negative post agianst  God,Jesus Christ,Bible, christianity,pastors,churches and anything that has to do with christianity while at the same time giving him a dirty self destructive job to do by making negative threads against his own religion, since you have completly ignored his own thread,he will have nothing else to do than to start defending your negative attacks on islam. and if he does, drag the discussion as long as you can  and make it the longer you discuss, the worse you say about Islamic religion, be merciless and show no respect for to islamic religion,dont choose between words, use the worst word that will have the most negative effect on him.

Finaly,even if you dont have the time to waste using Strategy 2, do your best to use Strategy 1, it will cost you absolutely nothing and will bring you  the most desired result.

Use the  same strategy against any other irritant.

Kobojunkie:
Na wa o!!!! Why are we Nigerians so shallow minded? What has her being Ibo or non to do with this? I cannot believe adults would stoop so low as to start a fight over the ethnicity of a girl who never consulted anyone on here, or announced she did this because she was of any tribe in Nigeria. This is pathetic!!

My problem is not if she is Igbo or not, my problem is the stupid sense of some Yorubas and Hausas in nairaland,
Last year an Igbo computer GURU used his computer to hack Americans of several MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ,when CIA decleared him wanted, some hausas and yorubas in nairaland said he is an Igbo guy and not a Nigerian,
so i want them to repeat it this time, or is it the fault of Igbos that heaven made them naturaly creative and talented,

And point of correction, it is Igbo not IBO

Meldrick:
It's quite funny why some people have started killing theirselves that she is an Igbo girl. We Nigerians like to claim good things. Why don't you make a name for yourself rather than bragging over someone who doesn't know you. Funnily, the girl in question is not reffered to as an Igbo girl but an American. I doubt if she can speak Igbo or would want to be associated with her parents tribe. We've seen a lot of them who change their names to a pure American name.


@ BANOM
MAKE A NAME FOR YOURSELF BECAUSE MY OWN IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR OWN.

Sure, i will, if i dont, then i am not a true Igbo guy

lelele:
@Banom
I wuld like to kno u better, yr posts are a lil distressing, u seem quite intelligent bt also annoyed wit God ( or is it religion)sometimes one shuld b annoyed at these things bt den i doubt if yr aggression is nt a lil misplaced. U r full of wit bt dnt waste yr talent on fighting on things dat dnt matter. If u dnt mind lets chat .
Lov u man

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Lov u 2, honestly, i am not angry with God, i am only angry with con men masqurading themselves as men of God.

udezue:
Umu Igbo mma mma nu.
Kwezuonu!!!!!!

Ya gazieregi, Ezi nwa nnem.

[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=297986.msg4210359#msg4210359 date=1247939792]Guy, why you dey look for fight this evening? wetin happen? Are you having a bad day?[/quote]I am actually having a bad day, and i need a scape goat who will abuse me, so that i can deal with the idiot and have my happiness.