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@ poster KNOWALL,

Out of your foolish attempt to ridicule  the best perfomer this useless country have ever had, you ended up displaying your illiteracy, stupidity , tribalism,prejudice, frustration in london and your desperate desire to gain online attention,

First, let me start by correcting your lack of knowledge of Nigerian affair, Soludo spent only 5 years of a single tenure as CBN governor against your malicious accusation of 8 years, He was truely a lecturer and also ,an international and united nations consultant on economics and banking,and then chief economic adviser to president Obasanjo, and finaly appointed CBN governor by Obasanjo, he (Soludo) along side Okonjo Iweala are the most famous, educated, intelligent and globaly sort after economist the whole Africa has ever produced since the history of life, Soludo made first class in his First, second and third degrees, he was a self made scholar, he became a profesor at the age of 40, a record no other nigerian have ever made.
When he came in as CBN governor, he inherited a banking institution that was half dead, he revied it by consolidated our banking institution and gave us a global banking standard, without consolidating nigerian banks, this global economic crisis could have damaged Nigeria beyond repair, You talked of sanusi fishing out four CEOs, do you know how many banks that closed and how many that emerged with other banks as a result of Soludo's consolidation policy ? Soludo and Sanusi are not in any way comparable, Soludo is by far , greater than sanusi, Soludos CV before he became CBN governor is by far more impresive and loudable than that of sanusi before and now he is CBN governor, I bet you , in two tenures, Sanusi can not achieve for Nigerians what Soludo achieved in a single tenure. Soludo is the best performed public servant  Nigeria have ever had all through her existence. (this is jus a little about Soludo).

And finaly, i would like to warn you, this should be your first and last time you would log on to nairaland to bore people with your half informed post, as an adult and a person who claims he is in UK,you should be more reasonable and informed and  know that if you want to make a post against a person, you should do more research and come up with some thing more reasonable, than waking up one sunday morning to display your illiteracy.

Where did you stop in school ?

Abuzola:
If you have any question feel free to propound. And if you are convince and want to accept Islam holla me at Abuzola20042005@yahoo.co.uk

I accept islam and allah to come and be my gate man.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=310261.msg4360211#msg4360211 date=1250414893]Not it's not.
It's just a cult for morons![/quote]Hello bro tudor, it's sunday morning, are you not going for church service ?

Horus:
Even religion is fake.

Not to talk of an ordinary pastor,
how can a bad system produce a good person ?

RCCG pastors and leadersjip are bunch of yoruba crookes.

@ OLAADEGU

According to you and your bible, God created the whole worled in six days by simply making ultrances like let there be light( and there was light) let there be heaven, let the waters go to one direction of the earth and it happened, let this and that happen and the happen,

You and i knows very well that if some one starts mentioning categoricaly every thing that we saw on earth , like ( let there be light, let there be heavenly bodies, let the earth produce grasses, let the see produce its inhabitants, let there be bight and day) and they appear the way we command, you will agree with me that it will not take up to one day for the person to mention all that and thus have them created ,

so how come it took a whole God up to six full days to do ? even to the extent that he got tired and had to rest.

mactao:
banom, horus, tudor.

Let's now assume that the Bible was written by God Himself, up there in Heaven, and then he dropped it and gave it to someone who reproduced it many times many years ago. Would you believe it? No. You would say it's just a story concocted by Christians to defend their God.

Every single thing a Christian has to say can be countered by atheists (maybe not all atheists, but surely Nairaland's atheists).  One of the three of you actually told me that speaking in tongues is caused by a gas. On this thread, someone also said Christians believe the Bible is the word of God because the people who wrote the Bible wrote that. But Christians have also had experiences with God. Needless to say, you don't believe in healing for sick people, or hearing the voice of God. But Christians believe them - not only because they read it in the Bible, but because they've experienced them. When personal experiences confirm and match God's word, why on earth wouldn't one believe that the Bible is God's word?

Maybe you don't believe, but some people believe, not based on word of mouth, but based on personal evidence. There's nothing you can do to change that.

@mactao

Muslims pray and they got healed, Hindus pray and they got healed, I dol worshipers pray and they got healed,Some people dont even pray at all and they still got healed, how can you reconcile that ?

You talked of personal experience and atheist always argueing every thing they are told , have it ever occured to your thinking that most us atheist today were former highly spirited christians before ( I became an atheist this year) even some pastors have converted to atheism, so what happened to all those years of christianity ? why didn't we have the experience ?

meanwhile can you tell me your own personal experience ?

fellis:
@topic.
Now isn't this something to ponder upon.
How is it possible for a god to come down to earth and live on it for thirty something years and then fail to leave an incorruptable or everlasting manual for the people he came to save?
Why did he come at the time he came and not before? Why change the laws from believing in God alone to believing in God plus Jesus Christ plus holy ghost, and then do this after He says that He doesn't change?
And why rest? How can a god get tired and set aside a whole day, (a whole day!!!) for resting? Humans don't even need that much time to recover from fatigue.
And why would he fail to leave any specific set of laws about how human beings should live their lives instead of just asking them to have love for each other-and leaving them to take to conjectures in order to decide what to follow? Did he not know that it would inevitably lead to the formation of so many differing sects?
Lastly, and most importantly, why did he have to commit suicide to save the sinners? And why wasn't that suicide committed even before the first human beings were created? What type of god has perishable components? Even idol worshippers would never claim that it is possible for their gods to die.

That is a very big input, i wonder why when ever any issue like this comes out, the christians find it difficult to come up with any explaination.

opeoluwama:
There is a map in this world that would give you proper direction of where you are hailing to, whether you are an intrider in a palce a not with the map you will get to know where u are going.But this map cannot direct and give u the best way of life.
There is a map of life which could help u and then bring light into your way.Who is this map? JESUS IS THE MAP of life u needed to succeed, listen to His word, He says I am the way, The Truth, and the life and he also says that whosoever follow shall be save .
Allow JESUS to lead and supertvise ur life and i promise u that u will never regret u came into this world.

One Mafian book i read 9years ago advised me to keep my mouth shot and open my eyes very well and observe how things works anywhere i came in newly , then after that i can now play my card,

I see you just registered here today,

I advice you to first observe, this is nairaland, no one needs your map, may be you may first obtain from old members and navigate first before we can talk of yours,
Meanwhile, warmed welcome.

I think why any one would say the scriptures are lies manufactured by men out of their own imagination, perception,condition, expectation and experience is that it was not God that wrote it himself,

if you ask a christian for instance, How does he know the bible is the true word of God, he will simply answer, because it was written with the inspiration of God,( and this is because the writers of the bible claimed so)

I dont see any difference between me writing a book now and conclude it with the claim, This book was written with inspiration of God,( the same God i am trying to promote with the book) and the claims of the Bible as an inspiration of God,

Now i am not arguing if the scriptures were indeed inspired or not, but it is obvious that the whole thing is quite doubtful and can be best concluded as a book written by men with unverifiable claim of " being inspired by the same God they are promoting"

According to the Bible, God is all knowing, he is every where, he created the whole world in just six days, and so on,
If he is all knowing , of course he should have known that inspiring the scriptures to some few men to pass over to other billions of individuals all over the world will only create confusions and doubts( as we are seeing from religious experience today) we have a tangible reason to refuse the scrpitures,(it came from men not God himself, men can be decietful)

Secondly , if God is every where, and he has seeing the endless doubts and confusions the i dea of inspiring the scritures to some few men have caused, why dont he appear to all men( individualy or collectively) and testify and give credence to the scriptures as his word, this is not only very reasonable of him, but of paramount neccesity,since men are in doubts, atimes i used to wonder, if God is runnng away or dead?( since the bible said man was created in his image and likeness, "man dies"

In addition, the Bible claimed God created the whole world in six days, does it mean that God ran out of resources or became too weak,lazy, careles or reckless that he did't deem it fit to write or create the scriptures himself, this is because i am very sure that if God had done that immidiately after creating the world, no one will have any cause to argue the authenticity of the scriptures, ( it is like SUNY electronis after manufacturing their products, they simply include USERS MANUAL to direct the user on how to use the product) beside God still have a chance to give the scriptures undoubtable credence, why not God give us the scriptures while we were still in our mothers womb, so that the person will be sure it was his creator that gave it to him ( all we inherited from our mothers womb are the blood of adam,his sins and the consequences of his sins accordin to the Bible) nothing positive, it means that before we even step our foot on earth, the bible has already condemed us.

Finaly , i made the post above because it is obvious that if realy God exist, the cause of all these confusion and doubts could be traced back to his own mistakes, and it raises a more complex question, can an all mighty and all knowing God make a mistake ? if he can, is he qualified to be a God ?

Personaly what i am seeing in the world today is no difference from an imagined world where there is no God.

switch47:
WHEN THE LORD JESUS HAD A MEAL WITH TAX COLLECTORS THIEVES THOSE THE CRITICS CONSIDERED DIRTY AND UNCLEAN-------IT TURNED OUT TO BE FOOLISHNESS IN THINKING OF MEN-------[/b]MEN N THE BID OF FINDING FAUT GOES TO THE EXTENT OF STRTING THIS KIND OF THREAD IN BAD FAITH [b]MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS PASTOR ADEBOYE AND DO MIGHTY WORKS FOR GOD. AMEN!!

Amen my dear brother,
May the Lord richly bless him from your WALLET,

:p

@ Davidylan,

I wish to have a personal interview with you in a Thread i will Title Exclusive Interview with Davidylan In couple of days, where i would like us to discuss some important issues about religion in general, science, Christianity, Your understanding of islamic religion, Atheism, Classical Issues about life and nature, and your personal belief and assurance .  

I hope that will be OK by you. .

I pity people in this God forsaken country called Nigeria who have not understand the true nature of business.
It is just a big pity, Yoruba people didn't see any other business to do, all they now do is to pop up dubious churches everywhere, toying and making money in the name of God, exploiting desperate people every now and then,
1, pastor E.A Adeboye
2, Prophet T.B Joshua
3, Pastor David Oyedepo
4, Pastor Mathew Ashemolowo
5, Pastor David ibiyomie
6, Pastor w.f Kumuyi
The list is endless,

And people don't reason, they don't ask them selves who is getting all these blessings, ? me or the pastors and the owners of the church ? since i have been attending this church, how has my life and finances improved ? and how has the pastors and the owners of the church's lives improved ?

419 has taking a holy level, you want God to bless you ? first bless God in advance fee pattern.

Oya go join millionaires club for God indeed.

I pity this country.

Bobbyaf:
@ Banom

Abuzola is not a frustration to anyone, but himself. In either case he is not the enemy. Satan is, not him.

He is the enemy not Satan, where is Satan ?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=303350.msg4317885#msg4317885 date=1249684139]as you've typed here, so may your life be.[/quote]So you are this insecure ? i was thinking you are one unbeatable girl who found joy in having problems with people all the time, i never knew any thing could make you result to moral preaching.

muhsin:
Another utter stupidity. Oh allah! Come to this schmuck's aide!

Allah please hurry up, leave that sick prostitute you are sucking in paradise and come and aid me,

muhsin:
You are certainly pitiful, banom, for you are too far misguided and polluted. All you need is prayer, and I see brother Abuzola has started one for you. May the Almighty God answer.

Abuzola:
God please Forgive him for the useless brat is not in his right mind, Oh Allah show him the light of truth

Yeah, i like that, my only fear is that if allah hears your prayer, my own portion of virgin may be among the Hiv infected ones that mohamed normaly sucks their wet pants.

Abuzola:
Banom- an atheist and animal are the same. So is not a surprise seeing your malicious insanity.

Just like the way it wasn't any surprise seeing the uselessness of Muslims around the world, their founder( mohamed and allah) are big waste product of humanity,
with insatiable appetite for dirty girls.

muhsin:
. . .as banom irrationally believe. Pity.

No, that was totaly wrong, it is you who foolishly follow what your useless bloody rapist allah and mohamed thought you in expectation of staphylococcus infected paradise virgins that deserve pity for your delusional irrationality.

muhsin:
Cut the crap, dude.
I had no intention to say a word here. But this is absurd; many Muslims nationwide made it clear yesterday in their sermons that Muhammad Yusuf's actions and inactions were not Islamic. But you are still so unconcern to see this. Mst.

See another nonsense. Why call God. . .a uzu billah! Or you don't know Allah is an Arabic word for God.

Get more serious when you come back to reply. Answer the OP's question. . .and if you can't stay mute. Unnecessary.

Oboy, just drop it, before i come out fully to attack this disgusting diabolic useless religion called Islam,

allah is not God, they are two different persons, though i don't believe in any of them.

but allah, mohamed Yusuf, osama, sadam and the rest of you are less useful than a dirty mad person.

before sin, now atrocities, this man bad.

Abuzola:
'whomsoever Allah sends astray,none can guide him, and He lets them wonder blindly in their transgressions'


'O people of the scripture (jews and christians) ! Now has come to you Our messenger (Muhammad) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the scripture and pass over much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Muhammad) and a plain Book (the Quran)' 5:15

and also his great apostle yusuf of boko haram.

allah is indeed useless.

bawomolo:
Ojukwu is an opportunity and not an hero.

The pastor went out like a champ. he stoop up for what he believed in. something most Nigerians can't claim to do.

can you explain what you mean by that.

noetic2:
Can u please stop calling ojukwu a hero? he ran away when it mattered most. . . . .whats the difference between ojukwu and the "boko haram" leader yusuf?

@ noetic2

I used to think you are a reasonable person, i never knew you are one of the fools exhibiting there ignorance here ?

The difference between Ojukwu and Yusuf is that  ojukwu saw the danger, murder and pains Yusuf will unleash on innocent  Nigerians and decided that it was better averted on time ,

2, OJUKWU saw Pastor George orji's head being cut off by Yusuf and the head Rolling on the ground like Orange,and decided it was better avoided on time, but late pastor George Orji's brothers from benue who were much in the military then, say it was OK FOR YUSUF TO CUT OFF PASTOR GEORGE ORJI'S HEAD,

I hope i have answered you.

This story is too funny,

I want to ask, Can Pastor E.A Adeboye ever be wrong ?

One day RCCG will charge its costumers members for echoing Amen when Pastor Adeboye says Hallelujah,

Amen fee = #10 per echo.

I am not happy that a pastors head was cut by this devilish Islamic northern terrorist organization,
But that is the fate of people without vision,
In the early 60s when General Odumuegwu Ojukwu saw all these Islamic murders coming, he opted for secession of Biafra from Nigeria, but the northerners and their yoruba servants refused and fought the Igbos and killed over two million Igbos, during the war, it was Benue people that the hausas used most to fight the war as many of them were in the military then, after the war, the hausa's simply took power and striped the Middle belt of every power and that region is one of the least developed place in Africa, now the Hausa's have resulted into cutting the heads of Benue pastors and have it Rolling on the ground like orange.

may be you people should learn from that.

@ mivoh,

what you are doing is very unfair, despite having heard tipia's story, all you could do is to start using it to insult her, it is not wise, you are a christian and your are here calling God , just think if you were in tipia's shoes,

i really feel for tipia,just two weeks after her marraige, her husband infected her with HIV and divorced her at the same time, who will not run mad in such situation ?
But tipia coming to nairaland to make troubles will not solve any issues at all , just like i told you on phone, put every thing in God's hand, there is nothing he can not do.
may the good Lord be your strength . i love u so much.

The good lord will be your strength.

liveurlife:
Attention Pastors and Missionries with a heart for missions abroad.
An Inviting asian country is giving a 3 year visa exemption to all missionaries and Pastors willing to come to work as Missionries in this beautiful country.
If your heart is to do this reach me on.

adeolaabiola2002@yahoo.co.uk

send a blank mail with the subject "pastors and missionaries".

Yes this this is true, pastors and missionaries are urgently needed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and saudi Arabia,
If you are intrested to go , just make sure you do your funeral here before going,

Mivoh:
Leave the mumu illiterate jare, i fit sort am

Honestly, ,if it will be possible, seun should employ some psychiatric physicians to check some people's brain and mental state before they register here in nairaland,

Last time i reached out to tipia to find out who she is and why she is void of common sense, i was told she was divorced by her husband, who divorced her just two weeks after their marriage for stabing him with a knife,

She is suffering from involutional melancoly, too bad, she registered here to look for people she will infect with her unfurtunate predicament.

Peple please beware and try to console her than exchanging harsh words with her,

Tipia, may the good Lord be your strength, how is that your younger sister Tope ? my regards to her.

Yes he even regreted creating man, can a god take an action he will regret lter ?