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[/quote]Amin, may Allah  ( SW ) answer your inner prayer too.

muhsin:
@Bashbaba,

That was utterly sad and mind-boggling. I wish I had something beyond prayer to offer to you and the entire Muslim ummah undergoing the same experience with you here and there. May Allah give you the heard to endure, strive and succeed, amin.

May Allah support, protect and aid you. May He punish those who are against His religion, amin. Best wishes.

Amin.You have indeed comforted my heart.May Allah in His infinite mercy comfort ur soul when no other than Allah can do such.Your prayer is indeed ENOUGH

[quote author=Nanai link=topic=370122.msg5474992#msg5474992 date=1265654860]@Bashbaba:May Allah help muslims against all the injustice happening around us.Ameen.

Amin and may His mercies and blessings envelope you in all the days of ur life.

muhsin:
@Bashbaba,


May Allah come to your rescue, amin.

Nanai:
@bashbaba:May Allah help muslims and uphold Islam.I'm praying for all the muslims that find themselves as minorities in their areas. May Allah help you to fight this injustice.Ameen.

muhsin:
@Bashbaba,

I am very sorry to hear about your situation. Allah's intervention is on its way, inshaAllah; may He solve it and punish the culprits, amin.

Beside, I'm actually left wondering: what reason(s) did they give you before carrying out that operation? Is it the site/plot that was gotten illigally, or the building that was built not in accordance with rules or what? Or they just don't want to see mosques being built because it may yield "terrorists"; or simply they are fighting Islam and Muslims? I can't understand it, wallahi.

May Allah come to your rescue, amin.

z-murda:
I laughed when I saw this. Common this is the 21st century bro. I know your religion does not allow freedom of speech, however I think the Nigerian constitution makes an effort to. It would be quite easy for another religious bigot to whip up sentiments against Mr Abati and Guardian on this, which is what you are doing.
He is allowed to say whatever is on his mind. For one, I think the custom of rushing to bury a corpse is antediluvian. This system is used hide a myriad of crimes and murders. I think corpses should be subjected to autopsies to establish causes of death.
I don't know what you are talking about Muslim leaders being buried same days. I for one know some emirs who died outside the country and were brought back into Nigeria some days back for burial, so also were some muslim 'world' leaders (read emir of Ilorin, Sadat, Arafat and yes Fahd!).
[color=#990000]Gani's wish was not to be buried at the same day. Surely, as a good muslim he saw something wrong with such practice that was clearly why him and his family went against this practice.[/color] Will he go to jahannam because of this? I seriously doubt it.

I laughed when I saw this.


I am sure that I laughed more than you did .Your response shows that majority don’t really read in between the lines, jump into conclusion  and start to reply. May be I will recommend that you read again.


He is allowed to say whatever is on his mind.

Ofcourse , Abati can say whatever he wants in as much as what he is saying is nothing but  the truth .If otherwise, people will definately tell him what is supposed to be the truth. And that, we have done.


I don't know what you are talking about Muslim leaders being buried same days.


I never said Muslims or Muslim leaders must be buried same day of their death .You might need to read again so as to comprehend what I said .What I said, simply put, was that their burial must not be extended more than the stated period in Islam .This does not necessarily means a day .It could be two or more. It all depend on the circumstances .If you need to know more ,do not hesitate to ask questions.

]Gani's wish was not to be buried at the same day. Surely, as a good muslim he saw something wrong with such practice that was clearly why him and his family went against this practice.[/color]



For all I care,Gani could have said he doesn’t want to be buried at all .It is a free world: modern day where everyone decides what is good for himself or herself.Our problem is that word ‘revised’’ that Abati employed in his write up . He should have simply said what he wanted to say as to how he , Gani wanted to be buried but not resulting to falsehood against the religion .Islam is a complete way of life .It might even surprise you that in Islam, you don’t have a wish .Once you subscribe to it ,you follow what is therein in its entirety .Your wish is taken care of already.You need no will bcs your will is written in the Quran.You need not bother about your burial but the Muslim ummah has what to follow and will Insha Allah give you a befitting burial that will make you to meet Allah in peace.

Funny.As a good mulim you said?.Can anyone be good muslim more than Muhammed (SAW) ?Things like that does not exist in Islam. Somebody could be more catholic than the pope if popacy is being politicized but definitely if you are more muslim than Muhammed SAW,your religion is not Islam. If he was indeed as you have claimed, He should have founded his religion.May be Protestant?. For those BURIAL rites they displayed are not of Islam and goes against the tenets of Islam.



Will he go to jahannam because of this? I seriously doubt it.


We are not to judge but to tell some of our brothers who could be gullible as far as the religion is concerned .For them to note that what they have done to Gani’s  remain is not worthy of emulation by  Muslims and for people like Abati to know that Islamic principles were never and will never be revised .It was completed, sealed  and delivered .Neither addition nor subtraction is welcomed .Multiplication,mutilation ,revision and re-revision is not allowed in Islam .A league of Muslim Nations  will never be called to revise Quran as the other people did few weeks ago



You seriously doubt? May be that is your judgement  spelt in rhetoric. Unlike you, I have no doubt in me that Allah will definitely put him where he belongs. He does what He wills .I don’t spell his judgement. I spell whatever He says.He knows where to put him, I lack knowledge of it but im sure He will be just with him.

noetic2 link=topic=322668.msg4534497#msg4534497 date=1252834228:
sometimes one wonders if the fanatics and islamists that come up with these ridiculous assertions have any formal education at all?
Gani excercised his rights by refusing to be buried like any muslim Reuben simply did what he was paid to do. . . . .so why the fuss?
what a religion!

When has it becomes fanatism and terrorism to correct  somebody you know have said something wrong. I never thought that saying what is right to put the record straight could  ever be synonymous to lack of formal education rather possession of it .If truly that is what the people that has been brainwashed called lack of education , then ,education is not worth acquiring and people like me will prefer to be an illiterate for my entire life!.


Gani excercised his rights by refusing to be buried like any muslim Reuben simply did what he was paid to do. . . . .so why the fuss?
what a religion! [/color]



My brother you are very correct .We share the same opinion here .Gani excercised  his right and that is fine and no fuss. HE REFUSED TO BE BURIED AS A MUSLIM .And not that Islamic ethics and principles were revised .BUT ABATI has not done his job very well because he was not payed to misinform or feed the general public with lies. He needs to do his home works and researches bcs pen is just like the bullet but more deadlier than bullet particularly when handled by prolific writer such as Abati. Once something is released from it, it destroys more than gun

Bashbaba:
Salam alykun!

In present day journalism, Reuben Abati needs no introdution.He is tutored,seasoned, veteran and polished per excellence journalist.He is with Guardian Newspaper editorial board.Not being sentimental,he had written lots of beautiful pieces of crafty works that shape the society we lived in.But just yesterday,the man erred when he dabbled into an area of religion where his verse knowledge does not cover.While showering eulogies on late Gani Fawehinmi in yeseterday's Guardian Newspaper in a tribute tittled :  Gani :Radical to the end.The following words are culled from his write up:

''It has taken a Gani for us to realise that the Islamic practice of burying the dead immediately can be revised. All of a sudden, in respecting Gani's last wish that all the constituencies to which he belonged should be allowed to pay their last respects, many have become experts in reporting that the only reason Muslims in the desert regions are buried within 24 hours is because of heat and that in the rain forest region, this may not be necessary. Still, it doesn't matter. Gani has been praised fulsomely by the Muslim Jammat. He is a transcendental icon who deserves to be celebrated. ''[/color]

It is pertinent to let Reuben and the entire world know that Islamic practices had not and will not be revised for any man's wish and for any reason.It is a sealed and complete guardiance that Islam has brought and it has made provisions for our excesses!All these too,go with their purnishments. In this present day society, you could be allowed to bury your dead in the way you had wished but one thing is sure:If it does not follow the laid down principles in islam,it  is unislamic.One might be brave,knowledgeable,lovable yet ignorant in islamic affairs.

It is better we advice this popular journalist to eschew from publishing things he has no knowledge about or probably heard form friends in the beer beer parlour who though bear muslim names, but are not muslims that are practising their religion.To them,everything goes

Islam's position is known on burials.There is neither ambiguity nor controversies.Even as a Muslim President or a leader of the Muslims worldwide,his time for burial as stated in islam must not be exceded.

In as much as we will want to be identified with our  late brother,Gani,we need to inform muslims that his burial style is not of muslims and must not be emulated.May Allah forgive him of his mistakes,shortcomings,ignorance and allow him enterance to paradise.

z-murda:
I laughed when I saw this. Common this is the 21st century bro. I know your religion does not allow freedom of speech, however I think the Nigerian constitution makes an effort to. It would be quite easy for another religious bigot to whip up sentiments against Mr Abati and Guardian on this, which is what you are doing.
[color=#000099]He is allowed to say whatever is on his mind. For one, I think the custom of rushing to bury a corpse is antediluvian. This system is used hide a myriad of crimes and murders. I think corpses should be subjected to autopsies to establish causes of death.
[color=Black]I don't know what you are talking about Muslim leaders being buried same days. [/color] [color=Black]I for one know some emirs who died outside the country and were brought back into Nigeria some days back for burial, so also were some muslim 'world' leaders (read emir of Ilorin, Sadat, Arafat and yes Fahd!).Gani's wish was not to be buried at the same day. Surely, as a good muslim he saw something wrong with such practice that was clearly why him and his family went against this practice[/color]. [color=Black]Will he go to jahannam because of this? I seriously doubt it. [/color]

noetic2:
sometimes one wonders if the fanatics and islamists that come up with these ridiculous assertions have any formal education at all?
Gani excercised his rights by refusing to be buried like any muslim Reuben simply did what he was paid to do. . . . .so why the fuss?
what a religion!

Bashbaba:
Salam alykun!

In present day journalism, Reuben Abati needs no introdution.He is tutored,seasoned, veteran and polished per excellence journalist.He is with Guardian Newspaper editorial board.Not being sentimental,he had written lots of beautiful pieces of crafty works that shape the society we lived in.But just yesterday,the man erred when he dabbled into an area of religion where his verse knowledge does not cover.While showering eulogies on late Gani Fawehinmi in yeseterday's Guardian Newspaper in a tribute tittled :  Gani :Radical to the end.The following words are culled from his write up:

''It has taken a Gani for us to realise that the Islamic practice of burying the dead immediately can be revised. All of a sudden, in respecting Gani's last wish that all the constituencies to which he belonged should be allowed to pay their last respects, many have become experts in reporting that the only reason Muslims in the desert regions are buried within 24 hours is because of heat and that in the rain forest region, this may not be necessary. Still, it doesn't matter. Gani has been praised fulsomely by the Muslim Jammat. He is a transcendental icon who deserves to be celebrated. ''[/color]

It is pertinent to let Reuben and the entire world know that Islamic practices had not and will not be revised for any man's wish and for any reason.It is a sealed and complete guardiance that Islam has brought and it has made provisions for our excesses!All these too,go with their purnishments. In this present day society, you could be allowed to bury your dead in the way you had wished but one thing is sure:If it does not follow the laid down principles in islam,it  is unislamic.One might be brave,knowledgeable,lovable yet ignorant in islamic affairs.

It is better we advice this popular journalist to eschew from publishing things he has no knowledge about or probably heard form friends in the beer beer parlour who though bear muslim names, but are not muslims that are practising their religion.To them,everything goes

Islam's position is known on burials.There is neither ambiguity nor controversies.Even as a Muslim President or a leader of the Muslims worldwide,his time for burial as stated in islam must not be exceded.

In as much as we will want to be identified with our  late brother,Gani,we need to inform muslims that his burial style is not of muslims and must not be emulated.May Allah forgive him of his mistakes,shortcomings,ignorance and allow him enterance to paradise.

z-murda:
I laughed when I saw this. Common this is the 21st century bro. I know your religion does not allow freedom of speech, however I think the Nigerian constitution makes an effort to. It would be quite easy for another religious bigot to whip up sentiments against Mr Abati and Guardian on this, which is what you are doing.
[color=#000099]He is allowed to say whatever is on his mind. For one, I think the custom of rushing to bury a corpse is antediluvian. This system is used hide a myriad of crimes and murders. I think corpses should be subjected to autopsies to establish causes of death.
[color=Black]I don't know what you are talking about Muslim leaders being buried same days. [/color] [color=Black]I for one know some emirs who died outside the country and were brought back into Nigeria some days back for burial, so also were some muslim 'world' leaders (read emir of Ilorin, Sadat, Arafat and yes Fahd!).Gani's wish was not to be buried at the same day. Surely, as a good muslim he saw something wrong with such practice that was clearly why him and his family went against this practice[/color]. [color=Black]Will he go to jahannam because of this? I seriously doubt it. [/color]

noetic2:
sometimes one wonders if the fanatics and islamists that come up with these ridiculous assertions have any formal education at all?
Gani excercised his rights by refusing to be buried like any muslim Reuben simply did what he was paid to do. . . . .so why the fuss?
what a religion!

uplawal:
if u people know what the enemies of ISLAM conceals you all wont post pictures,or dnt you know that millions are seeing the light everyday by our posts, and to the people of the book is annoying, so they can do and undo, remember ALLAH warns you of the enemies

Jarus:
Is Obama the president of US?

Jarus:
Salam my brother
I have a problem with the bolded.Why use sect. I hate that word. I'm also Ahlus-Sunnah, but calling ahlus-sunnah a sect could be misleading. That is true Islam, trying to follow the Qur'an and Sunnah and ignoring bid'ah. It's not a sect, it's simply following the original, prophetic path.

olabowale:
@sleek29: what are you trying to say? if very confusing, your statement is. read it again and post it clearly. i dont see where Quran say the earth is flat! It says the earth is spread like a carpet. and we know that carpet covers what it covers. if it covers a room, or a space, wall to wall, you roll in from place to place for one, and wall to wall means it is what your feet can walk on as you move about on it. we see that you can only see as much as our eyes can see and the earth is not ended, yet! I hope you will make yourself clearer.

Abuzola:
Islam is truely from Allah

Bashbaba:
Salam,

Eventhough there is no unanimous conclusion reached on whether Ramses II or Thothmes I was the Fir'awn (Pharaoh) who oppressed Israel in Egypt,there were no arguments on the discovered remains of the egyptian tyrant as it was and it is undoutedly agreed that he was the Pharaoh that ruled in the time of Musa (Moses) A.S.They both had feautures and distinct characteristics that resemble or fit the figure of the dictator that oppressed then.

When will this book call Qur'an ever seize to amuse me?, Till I die,I guess as some die-hard fans of English club sides will always say.


How can this man call Muhammed ( S.A.W ) with no learning came in the fullest blaze of history,received revelations and put to shame the wisdom of the learened? He received a santified pen and a santified book with which he thought and still teaching the people of the world the knowledge of Science, Art, Commerce etc that they knew/know,knew not/know not and intend to, Insha Allah, continue to teach people who will be living in some centuries to come both the one they know and the one they know not!

You will be wondered why all these stories,the reasons were not far-fetched.I was just romancing with the words of the Qur'an while I came across the words of Allah (SW):

''We brought the tribe of Israel across the sea and Pharaoh and his troops pursued them out of tyranny and enmity.Then, when he was on the point of drowning, he (Pharaoh) said, ''I believe that there is no god but Him in whom the tribe of Israel believe.I am one of the Muslim''.What,now! When previously you rebelled and were one of the corrupters? [b][b]Today we will preserve your body so you can be a sign for people who come after you.Surely many people are heedless of Our Signs.[/b]Qur'aan 10:90-92


When I saw this, I made a few researches of this Ayaats that we had all seen or heard times without number.The part of the results is what majority of us had known before. But for the benefit of few who know not, I decided to share this.
It was when I tried to see what the Bibble says about the body of Pharaoh and I could not see anything that is in conformity with the highlighted Ayaat of the Qur'aan above,then I cocncluded that truly: The Qur'an is a plagiarized bibble ( According to them).[/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000]

Brothers, reason as you go through this piece.Neither it is for the purpose of amusement nor antagonism, but for identifying the sigh of Allah as written in the glorious Qur'an.Perchance we may reflect!

Endeavour to scroll down in other to enjoy the pictures.Do not hesitate to drop your comments. Jumma Mubarak. Masalam

Here is the website that shows the pictures of Pharaoh's body:

http://www.massmediacell.com/literature/ramesses-of-pharaohs-dead-body/

Nezan:
Kill the infidels, destroy them ,,,,,,,, you will have a place in paradise with seven wide eyed virgins
so much for a religion of peace. Man, grow up, we are now in the 21st century, not the mediaval ages

Nezan:
The Quran is very emphatic in telling the Muslim that every Muslim will enter hell. But "How come that you would embrace a religion who will not give you the assurance of eternal life?" No Muslim have that kind of assurance. No Muslim, because the Quran doesn't give this assurance to any Muslim. And then the Quran, in very plain words, you see, says that every Muslim, every Muslim must enter hell. Every Muslim. And that is in surat Mariam, surat number 19, and I want to read that for you, from there. Surat number 19, in the Quran, and we read the words, in verse 66, "And a man says, when I am dead, shall I then be raised up alive? Does not man, remember, that we created him before, while he was nothing? So by your lord, surely we shall gather them, human beings, together, and also the devil." Human beings and the devil will be gathered, and also the devil with them. "Then we shall bring them round hell, on their knees." Allah is saying we shall gather human beings with the devil, and we shall bring them round hell, on their knees. And then, it is said in verse 71, in the very same surat, "There is not one of you that will pass over hell." If we want the accurate meaning, there is no one of you but will enter hell. Passover, this is not a literal translation at all. There is no one, there is not one of you that will pass over hell. This is with your lord, a decree which must be accomplished." What does this mean? God must send every Muslim to hell. Of course, when you come to the clerics and ask them, "What do you think about that?" and they say, "Yes. Every Muslim will go to hell for a time until he serves his time, and then he'll go to paradise." But according to the Quran, anyone who will enter hell, he will be eternally there." The Quran says that! When anyone enters hell, he will be there eternally. There is no assurance for eternal life in the Quran.
On the other hand, when you come to Jesus Christ, and the gospel of John 5:24, "if anyone hears my voice, and believes on the one who sent me, he'll have eternal life" He will not come to judgment. He is transferred from this to life. Assurance. Assurance. The disciples came to Jesus rejoicing. All, even Satan, obey the commandment when we tell them to get out of any possessed person. And Jesus said, "Do not rejoice because Satan is under your authority. Rejoice because your names are written in Heaven. Rejoice because you have eternal life. That is the most important." So when you go to the New Testament, and you go to the Quran, in the Quran there is no assurance whatsoever, to any Muslim of going to paradise or to Heaven after death. On the other hand, in the New Testament, it is a guarantee. If you believe with your heart, that Jesus Christ died for you on the cross of Calvary, receive Him as the only begotten Son who died on your behalf, you'll receive eternal life immediately, and it will be eternal. That is the difference between the two.