Lord Nicvuitton: Let's seperate facts from fiction.. D igbo civilians were d main casualties of d war, ask wole soyinka, col banjo and many other unbiased yoruba men and they'll tell u it's d truth but let bygone be bygone. I'm an Igbo guy frm Anambra & i want us 2 embrace love, pls my igbo brodas, 4giv and 4get d past, GOD has already consoled igbos. My 9ja delta brodas who lost their loved ones, pls 4give d igbos yorubas, hausa/fulanis & mid beltans that eva killed ur loved ones.. Yorubas, hausa/fulani, mid belt, pls 4give d igbos/9ja deltans that eva killed ur loved ones.. No tribe is superior, we r all humans, we r all brodas, let's nat let d hatred planted years ago by our british colonial mastas continue 2 grow.. If d world hates nigeria, must we also hate ourselves? Let's all cum 2geda & change d face of nairaland, preach oneness, shun tribalism, love and respect our neighbours & speak peace always.. Our real enemies r evil thoughts & evil spirits, nat our fellow humans.. Let's ask ourselves if we'll prefer 2 live alone in this country wit out any oda ethnic group? There is beauty in diversity.. Pls ponder on these and remain blessed my brodas..

be very careful and watch your uterances , you want to forgive people that are posting pics of dying children and rejoicing over it , your comapassion is a weakness your enemies will always use against you.

demmy:


Another tale by moonlight. Awolowo was in prison during 'Operation Wetie' you fool. But hey don't let that fact distract you from your blissful ignorance.

So you know, it was the Eastern government of Michael Okpara that was behind 'Operation Wetie':



http://www.dawodu.com/agbe1.htm

so igbos were paying yorubas to kill and burn yorubas? thats shows even how shallow yorubas are and who the hell quotes dawuda abi wetin

fake magazine news and cheap tabloids

Harlex: Farouk Lawal is still alive, Bode George stole our money and was at the end received by former president and by this same Nigerians that believe in jungle justice, Cecelia ibru was actually convicted for stealing the money of this same people that earnestly desire to take laws into their hands, but at the end she served her jail term on her sick bed, Babangida, otedola and co. are all still alive using stolen public funds to acquire public properties, Dimeji Bankole am sure if at all he heard this news will be at the comfort of his bedroom, what have the senators you voted for done to ease the level of poverty in your area. someone stole a laptop and a phone and he heard to pay with his life, yet in your area there are bad road, no drinking water, no housing, and you know somebody have been paid to provide those basic amenities for you, but no one is killing them, when ever they visit our areas we receive them with songs and dances. Whats happening to this generation that is never ready to taking their destiny in their own hands, they rather result in believing that someone is somewhere writing and erasing destinies on their behave. I am not saying what they did was good, but every human deserve a fair earing no matter what the case may be, if the Boko Haram people can actually be arrested and given fair earing then i think those boys deserve one. Moreover if you are not a thief or an assassin i don't think any human in a right frame of mind can stand setting a fellow man ablaze. it is worrisome, anyone that can stand killing a fellow human being in such circumstances must have been used to killing people no matter what their offenses may be. Its a sad event that even the Nigeria Undergraduate does not have sanity for human life.

big crooks highest go to jail but small crooks are dealt with either by mob or police (at times police shoot arrested robber and throw their body inside the bush). na so life be and nigeria is no exception to that .

otokx: the 2 facebook profiles have seen does not in anyway indicate the wealth of those boys or was it a case of 2 rich and 2 poor guys?

since when did wealth determines who is a cultist or armed robber and who isn't, poverty is no excuse to become any of those.

sadeiyare: Robbery on-goin @ gwagwalada airport road, Abuja. Beware

na waoo abi armed robbers no dey read all these news .

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otokx:

my dear police will tell you no fuel in their motor, at some points estates in the area started paying squads of police about 80k per month for personal protection which translates to hefty amount for the tenants. If you can't pay you move out.

we do the same in my neighbournhood but not that high amount. if thats what it takes to solve this issue of armed robbery then its better, infact what we need in nigeria is private security companies that specialize on protecting estates, communities , streets even highways etc cus if we keep waiting for FG or police we will wait forever .even advance countries communities , neighbourhoods employ the services of private security comapnies for extra protection.

otokx:

that one small na, this guys robbed a hotel along the roads 4 times in 6 weeks, the hotel is almost folded up as people no longer go there again.

dey no get police for that area, how come the same gang have been terrorizing a particular area for so long and getting away with it.

otokx:

shot them with what? shey bi i talk say you no dey dis 9ja, we do not carry guns like you do in your country/planet you hear, only law enforcement agents carry gun and even at that the police account for every bullet giving.

i live in enugu my point is the villagers that carried out the jungle justice how will they sleep at night abi they find it as normal thing to beat and watch the person burn

freecocoa: I just heard that they weren't thieves but frat boys who were coming back from meeting and that they were burnt because they were seen with guns and that their parents are quite wealthy. Its a pity sha.

whats the differnce between frat boys and thieves or you think its funny how these frat boys kill and molest students

Henry40: No one who hasn't witnessed a robbery should talk trash about what was done...just wait till you witness one to understand the anger in the minds of these people.

Served them right...I'm happy they're dead and I'm loving the way they were killed.

As for those talking about how they should be handed over to the police, I know a few police officers, and I'll let you in on a little insider secrete - a robber with a fat bank account never stays in jail past two weeks, unless he screwed with the wrong guys. [size=14pt]THAT'S THE TRUTH...NO TALES!![/size] If it's not this way, then it's really no way!!!

indeed they deserve it but in such babaric way is disgusting they should have just shot them or something.

otokx: @oyb

sorry, hope you have recovered fast? these armed robbers have been terrorizing the place for some time now, you can check my blog in my signature to recount my experience. In fact a neighbor who moved in after paying 300k left after staying for 6 weeks dashing the landlord his rent due to the frequency of visits.

From what we just gathered this robbers 5 of them after robbing went to a hideout to pack the loot hoping for day to break when they will emerge from the bush and blend in like normal people but a palm wine tapper saw them and after over hearing their conversation alerted the vigilante. The aluu community of umucholu or so have been wrongly accused in the past of aiding this criminals, some even said it was the community youth. The people rose as one then went to arrest them together with the exhibits and took them to the village elders who after examining them found them guilty. It was then they were taking to the nearby burrow pit where dustbin is thrown and giving a very generous beating and later burned with fire, it appears 2 died in the course of the beating.

The tale goes that a team of police came in a van but where chased away by the community who formed a human shield and also pelted them with stones. The sister of one of the boys came around and was crying that she has been warning her brother to stay away from such bad company and that only the previous day the parents sent 60k which she gave to him. Oh well they got what they deserved and who ever says its jungle justice should have his head examined. The elders declared them guilty. This is a country where i build my house, generate my electricity, pump my water and even build my road then you talk of government. In fact i pay police monthly so that if i call within 5 minutes they should be around just in case criminals like this come my way. Anyway, typical of the situation, one of the fathers of the boy is connected and went to get JTF to come and start shooting sporadically, he later exclaimed that he gave the boy 52k earlier. It is said that JTF went away with the bodies and i wonder what for?

They were 5 in all but 1 escaped in the process of being captured by the vigilante, 1 of the 4 had done and failed the remedial programme in UNIPORT and had been hanging around the environment which is typical of most boys and girls in UNIPORT. It is not everybody you see that says he is a student of UNIPORT that is o. The other day a parent told me that he does not want his son to return to the house when it was obvious that he was going to fail out of the basic remedial program. This same guy that was buying A1 in private secondary school was scoring 144 in post utme, 136 in islt entrance exam and 29/100 in the remedial program. The remaining 3 are students but trust UNIPORT to soon go on air and declare to the whole world that those people are not their students - that is how we keep deceiving ourselves in this country.

at the highlighted you know the police can arrest those elders hope your not making this up.

Ji_sun_pack: They are from the region that can do anything for money, including selling babies, money rituals, drug dealings and called it " ingenuity".

olodo they are from rivers state, i know your ignorant but must you show it always

dayokanu:

I have given you notable instance in history where secession led to war. Seceding is against the consitution as Zik wanted it and Gowon being the head of State swore to protect the constitution and he did by crushing Ojuku and his rebels He crushed them fiercely under the boot of Adekunle. Sorry about that but a war has to be won

dont start lying zik did not reject succession clause and gowon adminstration was illegal to start with , i could careless but nigeria will never be good so the earlier you get it into your head that only disintegration will save yoruba people from poverty the better for you , as for igbo ,nigeria or no nigeria we will retain our position at the top of the food chain even though we are better off without confuse people lie you.

ekt_bear: The main lesson I have learned from this is not to make assumptions again about someone being reasonable, or to hold someone in esteem w/o knowing more about them. I obviously didn't know much about Achebe, to think he was beyond pulling this tribal, biased stunt.

yea he should have kept his mouth shut or praised gowon and awolowo for their role. i used to think your one of the few yorubas with sense(same category as fela, soyinka etc) but guess am wrong, wonder why all the respected yorubas sided the biafran side because respectable people dont support foolishness and evil. the same hawolowo instigate operation wettie where yorubas where killing each other or have you forgotten.

blackdream: No matter what? Am proud to be ab IBO BOY..... We have caused coup and civil war in #Nigeria...A yoruba man has never attempt a bloodless coup and u are there criticising #Achebe....Awo is a Yoruba Hero not for all Nigeria... Achebe witnessed the war and u did not, u are busy tackling him

actually yorubas have attempted one but they were killing themselves (wettie, awo vs akintola factions) rather than facing the federal govt that is responsible for their problems

Ikengawo: dont mind that lizard

it's even worst that Russia Egypt the UK and US fought their war for them.
It's even worst that Nigeria was losing a war to a country that only existed for less than a year until white people started bombing the country

it's even worst that the ONLY 2 respected yoruba men, world wide
Fela and Wole Soykina

were both for Biafra, Fela even preforming in Biafra during the bombing

These great men are thrown to the side while reptilian thieves and manipulator like Awo, Obasanjo, Tinubu, Fayemi, and MKO Abiola are celebrated as heros.
Nigeria killed your Abiola, jailed Soyinka, Killed Fela's mother, and beat Fela severly, Igbo leaders remain untouched and dignified but you still believe we're the enemy while the fulani conquer your people on the neck of leaders that are selling you out to the highest bidder. You're now mad that Ndigbo have the courage and intelligence to see it for what it is and act accordingly.

word unfortunately people hey rather celebrate evil men, see them all over the thread justifying starvation policy but at the same time attacking achebe for pointing it out, classical case of confusion. tomorrow they will come out and cry for regional govt and next tomorrow they are attacking those struggling for disintegration or regional govt , i think they all belong in the zoo.

ikooko: Whatever the fact is, my igbo people will forever hate Awolowo for what he did no doubt but let us leave sentiments aside and answer this simple question: was Obafemi Awolowo more guity for his role in biafran war than Ojukwu the warlord?
IMO[size=20pt],Awolowo was just smart to identify the weakness (loophole)of Ojukwu and he used it, simple[/size].
If Achebe called Awolowo greedy and a mass muderer, what would he call Ojukwu without been bias?

simple and that weakness and smartness of awolowo is what achebe is exposing so everyone can analyse. if we must move foward then we must stop idolizing evil people and politicians both past and present.

oshi

next is buhari he will learn the bitter way.

Wily+Wily:
Personally, I pity Awo, future generation is going to discuss his mental state, what drove him to commit such a crime against humanity.
Achebe don finish Awo.

exactly ,whether achebe is right or not, his publications will sell worldwide while babtopes arguement will only start and end in oyo state.

[size=15pt]The label doesn't say 'Made in Japan' it just says a company name and then 'Japan[/size]

Nigeria's expert copy-cats
By Dan Isaacs
BBC, Lagos, Nigeria

If you saw a product labelled "made in Nigeria" in your local shop would you buy it?

Cheap imitations of popular brands flood the market

Maybe you would think twice.

Not only are Nigerian goods not known for their quality, but the country's manufacturing sector has been so run-down over the years that the export of processed products has all but collapsed.

It is partly as a result of poor economic management over the years, and partly because those goods that are produced are often labelled as having been made elsewhere.

Struggling

Nnewi is a small town in south-eastern Nigeria with noisy streets, dilapidated buildings, and crowded markets - typical of so many in Nigeria.

But in a country where the manufacturing sector has all but collapsed under the weight of bad roads, intermittent power supply and limited pipe-borne water provision, the town is struggling against the odds.

Small and medium sized industries have set up here, and are producing not only for the Nigeria market, but also - albeit still to a limited extent - for markets abroad.

Genuine and fake goods are all available at Onitsha market

"We are proud of what we are making. It may not yet compete with equipment from UK and Germany. But because we have a name to protect, we are striving all the time to improve our quality," says local businessman Sam Chukwujekwu, whose factory makes machine tools, lathes, saws, and boilers.

On the shop floor Mr Chukwujekwu told me about the problems of the absence of mains power, lack of water, and communications.

"What we do is that we run our generator. For water, we harness rainwater," he says.

These problems increase his production costs by 25%, he says.
[/b]
Labelling

Mr Chukwujekwu makes sure his products bear the name not only of the country of manufacture, but also his home town, Nnewi.


[b]But some firms in the area are somewhat less scrupulous about labelling their goods, well aware that even for the Nigerian market, goods which say "Made in Nigeria" will not sell next to those from abroad.

The main outlet for the goods is the vast Onitsha market - one of the biggest in West Africa.

And all around the market are products that are made here - car spares, t-shirts, shoes - absolutely everything. And most of them say they are made elsewhere.

In one shop there are Nike and Adidas shoes. Peugeot car parts, Bosch car parts - the list goes on and on across this vast market.

Survival

Just down the roads is a factory producing car spares of all kinds - from batteries to brake pads.

I went to meet the factory's general manager, Emmanuel Agu to ask him why his company was somewhat economical with the truth about some of its labelling.



We are in deeper slumber now. In another ten years we will be more than 20 years behind
Emmanuel Agu
Factory manager
"You see, a lot of people buy reliable products, known names. And the only way that you can compete is to make those brands for them," he said.

Mr Agu denied that he was cheating his customers.

"[size=15pt]The label doesn't say 'Made in Japan' it just says a company name and then 'Japan'.[/size]

"It is all part of the survival strategy, because when you are operating in a system that you have everything stacked against you, there are a few things that you have to do to survive".

The irony is that no international manufacturer or designer is likely to prosecute for copyright infringement.

Very few of these products make it outside Nigeria' s borders, and the volume of production is probably too small to bother with.

Deep slumber

But ultimately, many of the manufacturers here do want to compete on equal terms, with goods that proudly say "Made in Nigeria".

But factory manager Emmanuel Agu is not optimistic about the future. "I think we went to sleep. We relied too much on oil and it made everybody lazy, especially the leaders.

"Quite frankly. I think the country was better in 1960 than it is today," says Mr Agu.

He feels that Nigeria is still to wake up.

Every designer name is available

"I think we are in deeper slumber now. In another 10 years, we will be more than 20 years behind," he says.

It is a real problem for Nigerian entrepreneurs.

[size=15pt]Fighting against a decaying infrastructure and all the extra costs that it entails and yet determined to produce and sell their goods in competition with products from abroad.[/size]

Their survival strategy of labelling goods as if they were made abroad is just part of their solution.

It is not only a breach of copyright regulations, but it also means that Nigerian-made brands - however good the quality - will never gain that reputation for themselves.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3130297.stm

Ikengawo:
http://www.shmoop.com/things-fall-apart/trivia.html

I heard recently it was translated into Persian by the Republic of Iran.
It's incredible to see the son of our soil go down in the history of mankind as one of the most achieved minds in african history.

interesting , its in our dna we cant help winning ,now the whole world watch our nollywood movies, the only thing left is for us to stop being part of this cursed country called nigeria