Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:41pm On Jun 16 |
cococandy: Where’s that ode asking me how Obama’s deal was better? Does this simplify it enough for you?
All the hypocrites foaming at the mouth that Iran got back their 1.7 billion we froze, are mum now that they’re probably going to get $300 billion of our actual money.
Shame on you people! Selective post. There was to be supervision by IAEA to ensure compliance. Their insoectors had to give a months notice for them to visit any nuclear site . One month. The clincher. Iran could arbitrary decide a certain nuclear site was a high security zone and then ban the IAEA insoectors from ever accessing it. Total madness masquerading as a deal. Long and short. Obama deal was to ensure Iran could get the nuclear bomb if they they behaved nicely for only 8+10 years . They were to be free to do anything after 8 years. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:56pm On Jun 16 |
armyofone: I guess I'm more strongly conservative than you.
You are liberal jare 
Bonjour! The world is changing and has changed. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:46pm On Jun 16 |
** I highlight this case to show how some judges are entitled. Especially black ones and this one is from Georgia*** A sitting federal judge attended Fani Willis election night party and later faced sanctions for the improper conduct. The same judge declined to voluntarily recuse from a high-profile election integrity case handled by the Department of Justice. Jesus A. Osete of the DOJ reports that his team had to file a motion for recusal and seek expedited consideration. Less than a day after the team threatened a writ of mandamus, the judge recused. Osete credits the successful outcome to coordinated work led by AAG Dhillon. The sequence highlights procedural steps taken to address potential conflicts in ongoing election-related litigation. She has now recused. basilico: Assistant AG Harneet Dillon wants this judge recused from an election case. She attended a victory party for Fani Willis ,the disgraced Fulton District Attorney. Lest we forget Fani Willis hirrd her married lover to jail Trump paying him $250 an hour . They indicted 17 people hoping the cases would run for several years. The judge is overseeing the Justice Department's efforts to compel Georgia to produce federal election records under the Civil Rights Act of 1960 and the National Voter Registration Act as part of its probe into state maintenance of its voter rolls ahead of the November midterms.
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/dhillon-moves-recuse-atlanta-judge-over-alleged-attendance-democratic-event basilico: Married woman judge investigated and found to have been having sex with a police officer in her chambers. She also created a toxic environment in her workplace .
She was nominated by Obama.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/judge-had-sexual-relationship-in-chambers-judicial-panel-says
She looks entitled . She is black ,a shame to the black community.
You just wonder,why couldn't they get into a hotel room or an Airbnb.
She has ruled against Trump admin in two major cases. So good riddance from me,she was ripe for blackmail.
She has a cute face by my standards.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:13pm On Jun 16 |
nateevs: There sheer folly is with Trump, who despite knowing that the US had a supply chain problem, ignored the potential outcomes of a conflict with Iran, and led the US down a path where it will struggle to deliver munition requests from allies, for several years.
Already Taiwan, Japan, Saudi Arabia, South Korea are on a renewed two-year delay in the supply of critical defensive munitions, as a direct consequence of this Iran war.....but you want them to sit idle and wait for two years..
This is what you call folly? 
Secondly, you are so full of yourself that you think only the US makes weapons. It's emblematic of your "direct access" phrase...I tell you that the likes of Ukraine and South Korea have developed and tested their own anti-anti-drone ddefensive capabilites, whereas the US hasn't, but you are talking about "direct access"
Direct access to what? Weapons that don't exist? Don't think you've ever heard the word retooling. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:19pm On Jun 16 |
The left hates America. Thank the Marxists .
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:35am On Jun 16 |
Studies now conclusively show liberals are nothing but a miserable bunch of weaklings. Decades of research literature establishes that political liberals have poorer mental health and are less happy than political conservatives. Scholars are unclear why, as Columbia University’s magazine reported in 2023, “American adults who identify as politically liberal have long reported lower levels of happiness and psychological well-being than conservatives.” .....conservatives demonstrate a more positive outlook on life and greater personal agency, religiosity, moral clarity and self-worth than their liberal counterparts – all qualities which are associated with greater mental health, happiness and flexibility.https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/conservative-liberal-mental-health-differences/Deepsight, bayelsaowei, (budaatum especially) |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:06am On Jun 16 |
Fulton County.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:01am On Jun 16 |
A.woman has XX chromosomes...Her body is different from a man .Besides having breasts she also has a vagina and a uterus. The bum bum is always bigger than a man's. Easy? ijebosb: This is like Trump and the JCPOA. Conservatives always think they know better until they have to actually find a solution or answer a question. You guys seem not to know how much you don't know.
It's easy to assume you know how to define what a woman is until you have to. You should go ask Raumdeuter. He still hasn't been able to define what a woman is even after criticizing Kentaji Brown Jackson for declining to answer it. And I'm 100% sure you wouldn't be able to either.
But keep doing what you do best, lying and pretending to be what you are not. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:17am On Jun 16 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:04am On Jun 16 |
nateevs: Again, don't be stewpid. You find the claims and debunk them. Have they or have they not looked to form military alliances with other countries for several components of defence? The answer is yes.
Why are you making this my claim. It happened. It happened because of degraded confidence in the US' ability to protect them.
Your questions should be directed at the GCC, not me. The USA drones are expensive. I mentioned FPV and suicide drones as being the new threat if you remember. Don't expect the GCC to buy drones from Raytheon. They will buy from China. The GCC also knows that the Rafale, Typhoon are good fighter jets so they can buya few from Europe. That's diversification not abandoning America. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:52am On Jun 16*. Modified: 4:09am On Jun 16 |
[quote author=cococandy œpost=139731121]Weak men wish they had half the class she does[/quote]I've ever posted here that she conceived through IIVF if you must know. She is a divider in chief .she said WH was built on the back of slaves. Also talked about the first time she felt proud of her country .She also said a second Trump presidency would bring "ugliness" into American life ignoring this .... So much for her class.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:06am On Jun 16 |
Entirely debatable.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:01am On Jun 16 |
benalvino3: It will not hold. More protest and explosions inside Iran as we speak.
They don't want the deal It cannot hold when half the country America prefers Iran nuking America to Trump blocking them from getting a bomb. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:51am On Jun 16 |
Nateevs , feedthenation.
🚨 INSIDE THE U.S. DEMANDS: What Washington Expects From the 60-Day Iran Windows 🚨
While Iranian state media is circulating a 14-clause draft filled with heavy demands—including upfront asset releases and a $300 billion reconstruction fund U.S. officials have made it clear that Washington is operating on a strict "pay-for-performance" model.
The Trump administration will not rely on trust. Here is exactly what the United States expects and demands from Iran during the high-stakes 60-day negotiation window:
1. 🚢 Immediate Maritime Clearances
Total Demining: Iran must completely and verifiably clear all naval mines from the Strait of Hormuz within the first 30 days.
Open Shipping Lanes: The U.S. rejects unilateral Iranian control over the Strait; shipping lanes must be immediately opened to unrestricted, safe international commercial transit.
2. ⚛️ Hardline Nuclear Rollbacks
Uranium Freeze: Iran must freeze its uranium enrichment activities as technical teams negotiate the framework of a final treaty.
Surrender of Materials: The U.S. expects the final outcome to include the physical removal of Iran’s highly enriched nuclear material from the country.
Long-Term Caps: Washington is pushing for a 15-to-20-year ban on advanced enrichment capabilities.
3. 🛡️ Military & Regional Constraints
No Early Withdrawal: U.S. forces will remain deployed in the region as a deterrent. A military drawdown will only be considered after a final, comprehensive deal is signed.
Verified Ceasefires: The 60-day window requires a total pause in regional hostilities, particularly between Israel and Hezbollah.
Israel's Right to Act: The U.S. maintains that Israel retains the right to respond militarily if regional proxy groups attempt to rearm during the 60 days.
💰 The Financial Reality
Unlike Iran's claims of massive upfront payouts, the U.S. position is that permanent sanctions relief and the phased release of frozen assets (up to $24 billion) are strictly tied to step-by-step compliance. If Iran violates its commitments or fails to negotiate in good faith during the 60 days, the Trump administration has warned that direct military action remains on the table.
Media will ignore all that and say Trump will give them $$$ .Obama already has already set the talking points which will be echoed 24/7 . |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:47am On Jun 16 |
Expect me to call out the irony of media They have Mitchell Obama on fashion magazine all over ,same to Jill Biden. Melania used to be on magazine covers too .When Trump won they couldn't treat her the way other first ladies have always been treated, not that it matters anyway. I don't post what users on non liberal forums and groups say about her. I despise Obama with a passion. The couple didn't unite the races,all they ever did was unite the black people to hate. I have no personal hatred of Mitchell,despite her being a very good friend of Harvey Weinstein that he gave her daughter internship in his company. cococandy: You must have comprehension challenges because the “disgusting behavior” I mentioned in my post refers to people calling Michelle a man. I feel like that’s pretty obvious. No wonder Trump is able to play games with you people.
And who’s more beautiful is such a childish non-issue. I can’t believe this is what you expect me to discuss with you. Childish grown men all over this thread |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:06am On Jun 16 |
Who you think is beautiful or more beautiful than the other , Mitchell Obama or Melania ? I will not call models lives as disgusting because they did some nude shots for a magazine cococandy: Even if she opens her body to show them and prove to them wrong, all it will earn her is more mockery. Because that’s what they hope to achieve. For her to humiliate herself in her bid to prove them wrong
Yet he claims he respects women who respect themselves. He’s the most disgusting man on this thread.
Ask him how Michelle has ever disrespected herself publicly or privately. Well educated. Always modest (the thing conservatives claim they like). Always taking the high road and never getting in the mud with them. They can’t even find anything from her past to shame her with like they love to shame women who dared to have a sex life. So this is the angle they chose.
And him being the low eyeQue male that he is, has joined in the fracas in his unthinking unreasoning pattern.
Could you imagine if Michelle had the sordid past that Melania has? They would’ve burned down the White House to cleanse it of the “unholy stench” of promiscuity.
This is why no woman should care about what they think of her. Because at the end of day, if you are not existing in service of their agenda, they’ll treat you like a worm beneath their feet.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:58am On Jun 16 |
cococandy: No one asked you to do anything. You’re over estimating yourself and your opinions. As usual.
Trump made a stupid decision and you guys are falling over yourselves trying to convince us yourselves that you weren’t bamboozled. That’s as simple as it gets.
You could keep quiet and the whole thread would be relieved to be rid of your crazy conspiracy-ridden rantings. But don’t assume that you’re worth the energy of anyone trying to argue with you why Trump is a fvck up. You want me to keep quiet and accept what you state as a matter of fact? Sell me something tangible. Tell me the good things about the Obama deal You will also be telling me this is true .
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:50am On Jun 16 |
nateevs: This is a stewwpid take. What exactly are you disagreeing with, the fact that these countries are all looking to decouple from sole US defensive dependence? That's just true information.
So what are you disagreeing with? Whether or not they will be safer doing so is a matter of discussion down the line. So I am not sure what your gripe is. Which country will they engage to protect their ships from Houthi rebels and Somali ship hijackers? To protect them if Iran decides to launch missile at them. Don't just make claims, back it up . IDF Iron Dome is protecting UAE. I doubt at this time UAE still support Hamas efforts to drive all Jews to the Mediterranean. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:41am On Jun 16 |
I came in peace . You are asking me to buy your house based on the description of the front door. You can do better than that. cococandy: Go and read it up for yourself. I blame the people that give you time of day engaging in bad faith argument. Silly goose. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:05pm On Jun 15 |
Nateevs. Stop speweing BS. Most of Iranian missiles were downed. I'd say over 90%. What use are their missiles if the dead in total are no more than the number of fingers you have. Hezbollah is destroying Israel iron dome. Please quit that Twitter feed ,feeding you nonsense. FPV drones are the new threat. Israel Laser defence is now operational. Cheaper than those $50K missiles. It's called iron beam. Trust IDF to come up with an antidote. The only one they need is a cure for TDS nateevs: And Iran rendered US Patriot and THAAD Systems as well as Israeli Iron Dome and Arrow systems completely ineffective.
And that's the point. The GCC countries were getting hit after hit after hit by Drone swarms and Missiles, with a reported paltry 10% interception rate....... and as though that was not embarrassing enough, they were getting annihilated by a cost differential of 4000 to 1.
Not only were they exposed militarily depending solely on the US defence technology, they were going to be bankrupt defending themselves, shooting PAC interceptor missiles in the air at $2m/$3m a unit. That's a completely unsustainable defence pact in the face of real war.
At the same time, Hezbollah is destroying the IDF in Lebanon with FPV drones.....Now they are finding Iron Dome Batteries and destroying them with full load of missiles in them. That's $100m damage time after time, with $1000-rated drones and they can do phuc.kall about it.
The GCC countries see all this. And this is why they are actively facilitating the peace talks. You Trump zombies might tow a strict line creating alternate reality, but there is a reality our there that others must interpret and live by. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:58pm On Jun 15 |
What did Obama deal achieve. 1. 2. 3. cococandy: You can’t make this stuff up. The divine comedy.
If they made this deal from a position of strength while Obama made the same deal from a position of weakness, and….Obama got a better result without bloodshed, what does that say about their bargaining skills? Does he even comprehend what he’s saying? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:23pm On Jun 15 |
Nateevs2: Humour you? Na me dey firm military alliance with others?
You think the world starts and stops with the US? What military alliance would the ME form without weapons purchases. China and Russia air defences were crushed in Venezuela and Iran within minutes. Totally obliterated. Who will buy their air defense systems that were meant to detect and shoot down f-22, F-35s and B2s. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:20pm On Jun 15 |
I've been calling for the regime to be ousted for more than 10 years Coddling the regime by Obama and Biden gave them Iranians the money and reason to where they are. Nateevs2: You are a clown. I told you on this very forum well before the 6-day war last year what Iran's response to a military attack actually would be. I knew this many years ago. Iran's had this capability for eons. The Pentagon knew this many years ago.
You called it conspiracy. Now that you are fully aware of how Iran would respond, you are handing it over their heads as a precursor for "wiping them out" when they didn't lift a finger and were minding their own business, until the US and Israel attacked.
How stewpid are you people?
You have no intangible personal reasons to have the Iranian regime wiped out. The only reason you think so is because your masters say so. What is your personal interest in having humans wiped out? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:49am On Jun 15 |
There is no deal yet ,that I know. It' looks a victory for Iran since they have proven intransigent. They can lob a missile without care to any country now ,if you complain they threaten the Straits. That's unworkable. Other countries will also start doing the same. Get something the world cannot stomach and start dictating terms. Im for Iran regine to be wiped out. Start with their parliament and every govt office. nateevs: I have told you, there's no deal. It's an MoU...a precursor to a deal discussion. Your problem is that you only listen to Trump.
And yes, we have seen pparts of Iran's requests. It's the same thing they have stood on since the first time Trump mentioned the word deal.
The only thing changed is that Iran is willing to negotiate accepting 50% release of frozen assets. They want $12bn upfront.
I also told you no deal will be signed yesterday. It's off because Israel has Israel'd..... again. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:02am On Jun 15 |
I've not seen the terms of the deal.Have you? bayelsaowei: This message is for his slow followers and worshippers..
VERY SLOW!!.
This child orange man spent billions of dollars, depleted americas military stock pile, caused the death of Americans soldiers, killed over 100 school girls, facilitated the destruction of Americas military bases in the Middle East, drove the world into an oil crisis with the closure of the strait of Homuz (which was literally open before the war), emptied the pockets of Americans, all to return back to baseline - the baseline agreed by his predecessor.
What a waste of everybody’s time.
But for his worshippers, he is the best god they’ve ever served.
Brain check required for these sorry folks. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:30pm On Jun 14 |
bayelsaowei: like buying elections or persuading voters by the use of cash?
That’s moral?? Complete utter rubbish. Elections are heavily financed by individuals and corporations. Zuckerbucks spent $400 million in 2020 more than what Elon spent. where's your complaint. Biden was offering to write off student loans just before elections also. Who foots the bill in such a case? Sour grapes.. The evil green eyed monster of jealousy. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:21pm On Jun 14 |
raumdeuter: Elon vs Bernie Someone on CNN thinks Elon Musk has a trillion dollars sitting in a bank. you spent a million dollars every single day, it would take you more than 2700 years to spend a trillion dollars," Champion said. "What you could effectively do with a trillion dollars is get rid of global poverty. You could end world hunger, you could cure major diseases like malaria, and you could completely transition the global energy sector to renewables. The fact that he has this type of money only tells me that his power will be more prevalent and that I could not — I cannot guarantee someone like this man would use his power for good." |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:14pm On Jun 14 |
Pension fund managers are many in an open competitive market..Who would force a private employer to invest their pensions in a particular company stock? There is a very easy way if you want to have a direct say on where your pensions are invested. cococandy: And it shouldn’t involve my money.
Stop engaging in conversations above you. If your retirement is through your employer, you may not be able to opt out. If people’s passive retirement investments through their employer are forced to buy into it, (very likely), all those people will lose money. And they can’t opt out after the purchase.
Many ordinary citizens who have their retirement accounts in passive investments letting the financial institutions invest their retirement funds were not consulted before the rules got changed overnight to accommodate spaceX. And their fund will be sunk into before they even know what’s going on.
Talking to you gives me a headache. Loud and wrong. Always wanna chime in. But perpetually ignorant. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 8:04am On Jun 14 |
[quote author=WriterrNg post=139709599] destroyed by Iran.. A militia having more advanced weapons than the government.
Reminds me of Sudan and South Sudan. The Vice presidents ( rank wise) have militias under their command and control. Leading to infighting when both principles disagreed. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:58am On Jun 14 |
On thid you are most probably right ,the regime hardliners are used to getting their way. nateevs: Clowns! It's not a peace deal. And nothing will be signed tomorrow. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:57am On Jun 14 |
bayelsaowei: The US MC Oluomo, APC and old PDP versions..
America on its path to becoming a third world country… and being cheered by insane Nigerians..
To know that republicans have also won elections just like the Democrats under the current electoral system of the US, should make sensible humans worry about the recent push by republicans (under their god Trump) to interfere in elections. What steps has Trump taken to interfere in elections? I come in 🕊️ peace 🙏 |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:17am On Jun 14 |
Hillary Clinton says most real people,most rural people and most older people don't have IDs.
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