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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:27pm On Aug 26, 2021
Laurene:
stop all these now. Biden messed up, for once condemn him and move on.
They cannot condemn Biden. If was Trump inventing cancer cure, they'd condemn him for putting pharmas and doctors out of work.
Sick people.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:24pm On Aug 26, 2021
benalvino3:
Biden Admin Relying On Taliban To ‘Protect Us’ At Kabul Airport, Is Sharing Intelligence With Them, Top General Says
Jack Posobiec is reporting that list of all americans, and afghans with. special immigrant visa has been provided to the Talibans to ease their entry to the airport.
If true that's handing an afghan execution list to the jihadists.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:51pm On Aug 26, 2021
wirinet:
A central clearing house to manage disasters in a war zone? How will that work? Should evacuations in a war zone not be handled by the military?
Yes a central clearing house like Banks have.

This one was supposed in the Afghan Presidents bedroom. And the bedroom should have had a balcony with a clear line of sight to the satellite sending comms back to the Oval Office and CIA headquarters.

Happy?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:43pm On Aug 26, 2021
wirinet:
Don't mind them. They don't even care to read the body of the article they link. They only read headlines and shout eureka - Biden is at fault, he should resign.

The article clearly stated "aftermath of a natural or man-made disaster", not before a natural or man made disaster. So what has the Biden administration been doing in the aftermath of the Taliban take over of Afghanistan? Is it not deploying the military to evacuate US citizens?
Are you sick. A central clearing house in cases of any evacuation logistics.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:35pm On Aug 26, 2021
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wirinet:
Where is the plan you posted?
This is what the link you posted said;
I don't know how Afghanistan became a natural or man made disaster.
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You need help
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:33pm On Aug 26, 2021
Enugurangers:
You are deflecting and you are probably lying.

Everyone here felt sorry for the loss of lives due to Covid BEFORE vaccines.

What they blamed Trump was for his stubbornness in going against public health measures to reduce casualties to Covid.
Don't go there please, their comments are scattered all over this thread .

12 soldiers dead, 60 dead and hundreds injured ,thats what I've gleaned from the press briefing.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:27pm On Aug 26, 2021
Enugurangers:
Apparently, you haven't been digesting his posts. The unvaccinated dying had a choice. They could have gotten the vaccine.

The US soldiers had no choice. Big difference. It was a sacrifice.
Im talking about prevaccine. Every day they was blaming Trump for the COVID-19 deaths. They was happy with more and more deaths
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:23pm On Aug 26, 2021
Goodvibes007:
I know. They can't understand. They are happy over the death of the American soldiers. Watch them take over this space for the next couple of days.

I would be taking some time off this thread.
Since when did you care about soldier's lives in the first case when you hate conservatives for opposing baby murders? And you were happy with COVID-19 being Trump's Katrina.
Take your pretence away.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:19pm On Aug 26, 2021
Goodvibes007:
What would you have me do? Spread fear and wish for death of people like you have been wishing for?
You have gotten your wish. You are happy.

You can go ahead and celebrate the death of US soldiers.
Im disgusted with people like you, who would be ecstatic if this happened under Trump.
I feel sad that this has happened, because Joe Biden should have foreseen this.
If a soldier leaves his rifle to the enemy he is court martialled. Joe Biden has left billions worth of arms to the Taliban.
He deserves a pat on the back.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:15pm On Aug 26, 2021
wirinet:
Trump has a plan? That is a fallacy. Trump does not have the mental capacity to plan, not to talk of successfully executing a plan. He is only a genius at manipulating emotions of vulnerable people - just like prosperity pastors. Even his planned coup of January 6th failed.
I just posted his plan and you are saying he did not have a plan.
How long will you continue holding water for Biden... Nah for Obama 3.0?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:03pm On Aug 26, 2021
Goodvibes007:
On the brighter side. The US is getting out of Afghanistan after 2 decades. The war is over. The billions of dollars being spent on that shithole can now be spent back home.
You and Salford have been touting how Taliban is being nice to the point of posting screenshot after screenshot
I been saying never trust the Taliban. That's ISIS -K. K for the wilayat of Khorosan according to caliphate world map. Andalusia is Spanish peninsula to ISIS.
ISIS as a power with geographic spread does not exist. Their ideology is the same as the Taliban to the last detail, only that the Taliban is satisfied holding Afghan country as its territory unlike IS which was expansionist. Taliban and ISIS are i interchangeable when it comes to belief.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:48pm On Aug 26, 2021
AmazonTopaz:
Exactly,I don't find it funny that the same people who cheered agent orange on are suddenly concerned about what Biden is doing.What different thing would Trump have done?

Sometimes they are best ignored.
Trump had a plan. He says get the civillians, then the equipment and finally the military.

In addition Pompeo had a bureau created yo handle a situation like this.



The Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR) designed to help Americans abroad was discontinued before the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan
A memo was signed to end the bureau on June 11 by members of the Biden administration
It was created by former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo during the presidency of Donald Trump


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9906927/CCR-bureau-designed-help-Americans-abroad-axed-Biden-administration-Taliban-takeover.html

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:02pm On Aug 26, 2021
Enugurangers:
How is it is fault that Afghan army took off instead of fighting or to hold back the Taliban?

Even NATO and other Western allies thought the Afghan forces should be able to hold on for atleast a year. After 20 years of training, it took only 4 days to fall.
Worst intelligence failure of course. Could we say Intelligence focused on CRT and Lbgtq nonsense instead of eavesdropping on comms between Afghan and Taliban.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:52pm On Aug 26, 2021
Enugurangers:
I don't see how this is Biden's fault. When Trump signed the deal to pull out US troops, the rest of the allies could have fortified Afghanistan when they knew Biden was also bent on completing Trump's work, even though he pushed the date to a later date.
If anyone blames Biden, we can as well blame other Western countries as well.
The problem is the hasty withdrawal. Should have evacuated people, then equipment, then the military last. Common sense.

We can as well blame China for inventing gun powder.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:44pm On Aug 26, 2021
obixcel:
Just happening: 4 US Marines killed in Kabul, Afghanistan airport explosion:
A suicide bombing outside of Kabul, Afghanistan's airport Thursday has killed 4 U.S. Marines and left three others injured, A second explosion later took place outside the Baron hotel
Very sensitive situation. An eye witness tells AFP.

When people heard the explosion there was
total panic. The Taliban then started firing in
the air to disperse the crowd at the gate," a
second witness said.
"I saw a man rushing with an injured baby in
his hands."
In the confusion, the witness - who was not
named - said he dropped the documents he
hoped would help him board a flight with his
wife and three children.
"I will never want to go the airport again.
Death to America, its evacuation and visas
the witness told AFP.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:18pm On Aug 26, 2021
benalvino3:
My first post i said for over a year or two, Then replying to EnuguRangers I stated for over a year


So, yes for over a year no Soldier was killed.
Some people They would be very happy to hear that soldiers died under Trump and none under Biden
Have we sunk that low.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:23pm On Aug 26, 2021
CutieKing:
You lots always like to push unnecessary propaganda.
How would Biden know the exact number of Americans still in Afghanistan??
Was the US embassy in Kabul informed of their arrival or departure as someone rightly pointed out above?
Have you asked your own president how many Nigerians are in Afghanistan as we speak ?,don’t they deserve evacuation too?
Why are you more concerned about citizens of another countries but neglected your own?
I think you guys have enough going on in that country to deal with than having headaches about going on in another country you have no stakes in.
Just in. Kabul airport explosion. Talk of Isis Suicide bomber suspected.
Jihadista.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:32am On Aug 26, 2021
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Goodvibes007:
Ps: Taliban are letting westerners to move on to the airport. It's only Afghans that are not being let through again because they are suspecting that lot of Afghans (excluding those that worked for the allies) are using the opportunity for economic migration.
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Lies and more lies

Event: Because of security threats
outside the gates of Kabul airport, we
are advising U.S. citizens to avoid
traveling to the airport and to avoid
airport gates at this time unless you
receive individual instructions from a
U.S. government representative to do
so.
U.S. citizens who are at the Abbey Gate,
East Gate, or North Gate now should
leave immediately


Actions to take:
Be aware of your surroundings at all
times, especially in large crowds.
Follow the instructions of local
authorities including movement
restrictions related to curfews.
Have a contingency plan for emergencies
and review the Traveler’s Checklist.
Monitor local media for breaking events
and adjust your plans based on new
information.
Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment
Program(STEP) to receive Alerts and
make it easier to locate you in an
emergency.
Follow the Department of State on
Facebook and Twitter.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:11pm On Aug 25, 2021
Goodvibes007:
1 flight every 39 minutes.

Taliban talking about Talent... Funny.
. I've been watching news today.

As of Tuesday 4400 American evacuated out.of 58k total flown out.

Joe Biden admin does not know how many Americans are still in Afghan.

Biden admin has no way of evacuating those stranded that Taliban won't let through to the airport.

24 American students on Summer holidays stranded in Afghanistan.

The virtual G7 meeting called by Boris lasted 7 minutes with Joe Biden saying deadline is Aug 31st.

100 afghans on terror list evacuated from Kabul

Taliban vows to combat climate change
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:06pm On Aug 25, 2021
Goodvibes007:
I know you hate news like the below.

FBI also labeled the Proud Boys as an extremist organization. Let me guess your reply, FBI are democrats too.
In June 2006, the FBI arrested
seven men from the poor,
predominantly black
neighborhood of Liberty City, in
Miami, on charges no less than
attempting to wage war on America.
In a boastful press conference, then
attorney general Alberto Gonzales,
outlined an ambitious, chilling plot to
blow up Chicago’s Sears Tower, to
launch a “full ground war against the
United States”, and to support al-
Qaida.
The case
against the
Liberty City
Seven was
weak from the
outset; even at
the press
conference, officials offered few
specifics or concrete evidence for a
terror plot the deputy director of the
FBI, John Pistole, described as more
“aspirational than operational”. The
men, members of an obscure religious
group called the Seas of David, had no
actual connection to al-Qaida, no
weapons, no explosives, no
reconnaissance on the Sears Tower,
no consistent ideology of violence. The
evidence against them – words of
intent considered, in the years of fear
post-9/11, to be overt acts of terror
were prodded and encouraged by a
paid informant in an elaborate game
of pretend.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:39pm On Aug 25, 2021
Goodvibes007:
Because Benalvino, An unknown nonentity that loves to posts pictures of her aunty's vacation and house on Nairaland has a different opinion. LMAO
The SPLC donations. Obtained from opensecrets.org .
Always follow the money.

Splc defence of Antifa
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/06/02/designating-antifa-domestic-terrorist-organization-dangerous-threatens-civil-liberties

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:21pm On Aug 25, 2021
benalvino3:
When you see them with black wife and children, have all kinds of race involved, it will be hard to say if they see a black man in isolation they will kill him and Ibime has been preaching. I'd like to know if there has ever been a situation where they lynch a black man.

I checked yesterday, their leader is brown as some want to argue here, they vice leader is Black, they call him the pope. So two people of color are leading a white supremacy group. I don't understand.
The left plays by these Saul Alinsky rules for radicals. His adherents are very prominent people in the society including an ex President whose name I wont mention.

"Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
"Never go outside the expertise of your people."
"Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."
"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."
"A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
"A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
"Keep the pressure on."
"The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. "
"The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
"If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."
"The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:52pm On Aug 25, 2021
Tdotbluejays:
Some on this thread like to defend terrorists and extremists.

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes says he is quitting right wing group FBI labels 'extremist'

Andrew Buncombe
Seattle
Thursday 22 November 2018

Gavin McInnes, the founder of the far right wing Proud Boys group, said he was quitting – a day it was revealed the FBI had listed it as an “extremist organisation with ties to white nationalism”.
Where white nationalism is defined as a crime and black nationalism is not
In a video posted to YouTube, Mr McInnes, also a founder member of Vice Media, said he was “officially disassociating” himself from the Proud Boys “in all capacities, forever”. He said he was doing to help the legal problems confronting several members charged after attacking demonstrators in New York, who were protesting a speech he was delivering.
He was holding a speech. There was a clash with antifa who came to protest his speech.
antifa clearly the provocateurs here

“I was told to use the term “stepping down” but I refused because that makes no sense. I was never the leader, only the founder. Although, the media will likely say, ‘Gavin McInnes Steps Down as Leader of Extremist Hate Group Proud Boys’ because that’s how they roll,” he said.

The 48-year-old, described by the New York Times as a “Brooklyn hipster turned far-right provocateur”, established the Proud Boys in 2016, claiming it was “a fraternal organisation” interested in defending so-called western values.
Defending western values became wrong at what date? What western values was he defending?
He has denied it is extremist or violent, even though he has a record of making racist, misogynistic and otherwise offensive remarks. He has used a racial slur to describe African American senator Cory Booker, said he admits he is Islamophobic, and has insulted foreign cultures from India to Australia.
Islamophobia is a tag to shame anyone who criticises aspects of Islam Which many of us on this thread already have

The group has also repeatedly been associated with violent attacks, including against anti-fascist protesters. Members of the group allegedly took part in last summer’s far right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where one protester was killed. Twitter, Facebook and Instagram have blocked the organisation.
Why are antifa going to his meetings.To look for a confrontation that media will tag as a violent event.

More recently, around half-a-dozen members of the group have been charged after clashing with anti-fascist protesters following a speech Mr McInnes delivered on October 12 at the Metropolitan Republican Club, on New York’s Upper East Side.
Getting the pattern? Always antifa showing up spoiling for a fight.

The announcement by Mr McInnes, who could not be contacted on Thursday, came just days after it was reported that FBI considered the group “extremist organisation with ties to white nationalism”.

“The FBI has warned local law enforcement agencies that the Proud Boys are actively recruiting in the Pacific Northwest and that some Proud Boy members have contributed to the recent escalation of violence at political rallies held on college campuses, and in cities like Charlottesville, Virginia; Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington,” the document added.

The Southern Poverty Law Centre (SPLC), an Alabama-based watchdog group, has described the the organisation as both “extremist” and a “hate group”.
The far left SPLC that tags any conservative as hate groups and is used as factcheckers by the likes of Facebook

“Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists,” the SPLC says of the group. “They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville.”
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:24pm On Aug 25, 2021
CutieKing:
Abeg we need to stop this fear mongering Biko..How can boko haram overrun Nigeria?.is Nigeria so little a country to fall into a rag tag group like BH?have they overran Borno state where they are majorly based?
Is Nigeria a one religion state ??
We should stop wishing evil on the country.
By the way, is Taliban a terrorist organization?.
This video answers you .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wred1cAai0
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:52pm On Aug 25, 2021
budaatum:
I'm amused that no one has wondered why members of "an anti black hate group" would let themselves be led by a brown skinned Afrocuban.
That would be because Proud Boys came up after Antifa was targeting conservative groupings and meetings.
The left called them white supremacists , the lamestream media never went into the details of the leader because that would destroy the white supremacists narrative.

Enough education for today.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:46am On Aug 25, 2021
sanpipita:
They can call Taliban's bluff if they want but invading Afghanistan now isn't a priority for USA and its allies especially with the commitments they have already made.

As for Taliban they are just in euphoria of victory and forgotten so soon, I doubt their threats mean anything, it will take USA and its allies one week to push them back to wherever they came from, it will even be stupid of them to get confrontational at this point with lots of local issues to face, isis might be back way I see things, they have denounced Taliban take over, Taliban has bigger issues to worry about unless they want to be stupid
Taliban ran the country for more than 6 years without any foreign aid.
They have a lot of money right now and they can as well allow farmers to resume poppy growing that earns them billions per year Withholding aid or threats to it means zilch to them.
In an invasion they don't mass their army. They hide among locals and ambush small patrol groups. If they lose 10 but kill one American that's a victory to them . coalition forces get hammered at home for every body bag brought home. Their ambushes can rack up tens of bodies in a month . And celebrate their ' win'.
The war according to ISAF was about winning the hearts and minds of the Afghans. That meant cooperating with the locals to identify where IEDs are planted, detonated by a 'shepherd' from a distance. Not all locals were helpful, they were grumbling about soldiers searching homes when there were women inside.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:38am On Aug 25, 2021
benalvino3:
Pfizer CEO says COVID19 vaccine-resistant variant likely to emerge, but the big pharma company would be able to turn around a "variant-specific" new mRNA jab within 3 months (Fox)
LOL this is turning into one big ponzi scheme. Are people waking up yet??

These big pharma is where to buy shares. They are gonna be so rich knowingly giving the public vaccine that will make them come for more vaccines
They are already raking in. Billions of doses each at 40$ per full dose already supplied to govt customers. Govts always pay Not a single dollar will be in debt.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:29pm On Aug 24, 2021
benalvino3:
They will go to the US and UK and start looking for sharia.

In Austria Afghan refugees are raping girls. I don't know. Women and children should he the first to be evacuated but almost always the women and children are left behind.
UK former commander Afghan has said Biden should face a court martial

In other news Taliban is warning of consequences if foreign troops are still present after Aug 31. Joe Biden has confirmed evacuations till the day Taliban want.
The CNN chief flew to Kabul secretly and met the new rulers also.
Taliban spokesman in Doha informed the world that some Taliban soldiers do not know how to question women going to work at the roadblocks. Hence Taliban has ordered all women to just stay at home, they will get their salaries till Taliban comes up with new guidelines on women.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:54pm On Aug 24, 2021
benalvino3:
And I don't fear them. I have not seen anything they have done so dangerous that I will as a black man be afraid of them. No news about proud boys kill or beat a black person for being black.
Actually I dont recall any violence from the splc designated white supremacist groups occasions, when Antifa did not show up
Antifa held violent protests dubbed by Pelosi as the summer of love.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:26pm On Aug 24, 2021
benalvino3:
According to ibime he will kill his wife and kid. I know the proudboys was formed by a Canadian who used to work at the rebel media, they formed because antifa harrass them and attack them anytime they go to give a talk in universities. Ben Shapiro and any conservative that wants to give a talk antifa will threaten the university against free speech. Lowder with crowder, Steven crowder was the first to interview antifa and report them to the fbi when they admit they now go to protest with weapons.
Themedia labelled Proud Boys as a white supremacist group. Any time they want to do an event Antifa goons are bussed in .
Unlike evangelicals who get clobbered by antifa, the Proud Boys generally fight back and usually beat up antifa goons. The media then calls Proud Boys violent white supremacists.
If Antifa don't show up, there would be no violence.In all the rallies Trump held there was no violence at all. Peaceful rally, everybody goes home.
Antifa are like Hitler Brown shirts, only that they are Dems brown shirts.
A toxic non profit SPLC tracks or rather pretends to track hate groups.Its a leftist outfit, labelling any conservative group as a hate group. And carries water for antifa.
,FB has blocked groups that splc designates as hate groups.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:36pm On Aug 24, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
The jobless conspiratorial nut known as Mr Arizona is at it again. California is going to rig the election for Gov Newsom so that Larry the House Negro Elder won't be Governor so that in case Senator Dianne Feinstein resigned, he won't be selecting her replacement. These idiots that can't identify where they're if they are dropped at the Rose Bowl is on their full lunacy. Jobless poverty cursed bunch in love with Proud Boys and Nazis.
What an idiot. That was Larry Elder who said that in the video I linked. Not me.
Some people need a refund from their quack schools.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:40am On Aug 24, 2021
benalvino3:
Like trump said people should get vaccinated or wear a mask if they want. Thsts it my problem is just the bimbos who always put up someone that died who is unvaccinated like the vaccinated are not dying
The lack of information about the vaccine is by design.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/17503-dead-1-7-million-injured-50-serious-reported-european-union-database-adverse-drug-reactions-covid-19-shots/5749719

The EudraVigilance database reports that
through July 3, 2021 there are 17,503 deaths
and 1,687,527 injuries reported following
injections of four experimental COVID-19
shots


Such info obtained from the EU will obviously make some people apprehensive , demonizing them about being anti vaccine does appear a calculated move to enforce vaccine mandates.

When it comes to America CDC adverse reports, their own database

https://www.globalresearch.ca/cdc-records-show-12791-dead-682873-injuries-following-covid-19-experimental-shots/5753273

This has to be the most censored information
in the U.S. right now, even though these
statistics come directly from the CDC.
They have now recorded 12,791 deaths,
16,044 permanent disabilities, 70,667
emergency room visits, 51,242
hospitalizations, 13,139 life threatening
events, among 682,873 reported injuries from
571,831 cases.



Information needs to be dissipated as truthfully as possible. More people will get the vaccine gladly when there is transparency.

And of course a Pfizer member in their Board of Directors is a former FDA commissioner.

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