₦airaland Forum

Dotman01:
. . . . so do you think pdp will choose someone from d acn (minority) to be their speaker?. . naaaah. . . . . so u think there is loophole for acn to exploit?. . . naaah. . .zoning is only a pdp thing. its neither a nigeria thing nor acn.

2mch:
This is a PDP government, and they have decided to appoint the positions by zoning. That is their party's decision and the party choice, we will all go with it. What the man should be arguing is that, since they have zoned the position to the SW. The house should vote to decide which candidate to elect from the SW( PDP or ACN). When ACN gets the presidency, they can decide which way they want to appoint key positions. As of now, PDP maintains zoning, there is nothing anyone can do about it but go along and play their game. But play that game better than they expected. Demand ACN or PDP speaker from the SW. Meritocracy in Nigeria will come from simple steps such as these, not from antagonizing or cheating yourself out of government because you want to seem politically correct.

Abagworo:
It is no news that the violence will continue until the people realize a duly elected and competent President.The violence has been there since PDP took over in 1999.More people have died in the hands of PDP than the entire era of military rule.Bola Ige,Odi massacre and their recent assasination of Youth Corpers are to mention but a few.I believe whole heartedly that the corpers were killed by PDP agents to discredit the protest.It has now been proven that the child voters were used by PDP.It shall also be proven that the corpers were assasinated by PDP.

kITA TITA:
I find it difficult to dismiss the report considering the scale of violence unleashed on innocent Nigerians after the presidential poll in April. However, the report appeared without any attribution and almost verbatim in different media. It seems planted and could be another attempt by hangers-on to please Mr. Jonathan. It could have been manufactured by the same group that manufactured figures for him in South East and South South, in an election that he was poised to win without cheating. The same set of people may actually be carrying out the same mission they are accusing others of plotting. I think we should have outgrown all these by now. The whole world is civilizing and we are moving backwards, voting because someone comes from our locality and killing others when our candidate fails to win.

Gbawe:
Indeed. We know Beaf would have us believe that [size=14pt]Tinubu is the worst scumbag on the face of the earth[/size] but we are Nigerians. We nurture scumbags and celebrate them in our Country. There is no point , especially if you support a PDP politician, casting aspersions on the character of others .  One would only end up looking like a thoughtless hypocrite because most Nigerians are aware that no entity celebrates and empowers the biggest "scumbags", murderers and gangsters more than the PDP in Nigeria.

blacksta:
[s]LOL

if refusing to celebrate mediocrity is now called " BITTERNESS" in your dictionary then feel[/s] [size=14pt]free to call me bitter[/size] -

Demdem:
Av heard that several times with their reasons and i am beginning to believe that it isnt so. This man in question is achieving quite a lot even after leaving power. a supposedly drug baron / money lauderer should be hunted down by local police and InterPol however this man still travels around the world like a free man (Obong Victor Attah dares not) unmolested. All we keep on hearing from the PDP govt (Bode george group) is that his issue is being investigated for years and still nothing to show for it despite the fact that it will be a political plus for them to keep him in prison.
besides, i am not saying that Tinubu is a saint (he is human) however i am forced to believe that all these allegations against him simply has no substance. They are basically lies. About innocent GEJ, i have no comment.

JudgeDredd:
I'm not the devil's advocate neither am I a tribalist, don't even like Tinubu that much, but I would like Beaf to respond to the bolded bit in demdem's post.

Hamid O:
Progressive minded people are never happy where things are done wrongly, does that make any sense to you

blacksta:
I am not bitter - Putting National interest first outweighs personal interests .

Demdem:
Strange enough, this supposedly crook was Presidentially airlifted to Aso Rock for a meeting with your hero (GEJ) before the presidential elections. Its either your man (GEJ) is also a crook or the supposedly crook isnt one.
besides i have fully read both articles presented by Gbawe and you earlier on this thread, Gbawe's own seems to be more credible (at least we know who is talking - Mr Gbajabiamila) but yours simply has no substance in it (from one unnamed source to another to sources).

Eziachi:
God! I really wonder how people like you sleep at night as you try to convince yourself that electric power is the same as candlelight Those that double speak will have their tongue eaten by termite one day.

Gbawe:
Correct yarn. If OBJ's imposition fall flatly on his face , like Etteh , the ACN will have the privilege of saying "we told you so" .

Gbawe:
So we are to give more credibility to a speculative article as support for the idea of "backdoor deals" and clandestine "underground" partnering/alliances , knowing fully well those abound in Nigeria , ahead of the utterance of the ACN caucus leader in the lower house ? in any case , is the PDP , even with it's majority, not duty bound to try and seek the votes of minority reps transparently , as is allowed? One has to wonder why some folks , when the ACN is mentioned, automatically speak of "backdoor deals" and double-dealing as if there is no democratic civility at all in Nigerian politics.

It is amazing anyone with a logical mind can proffer that we use unfounded speculation, thrown around carelessly in Nigeria,  against the direct utterance of an influential stakeholder. If this thread is a "fairytale" then I wonder what the article supplied to discredit it should be deemed as if not speculative garbage .

ziccoit:
Is Beaf defending PDP? I thought he was only for GEJ not PDP? ACN is the only party in Nigeria with clear cut ideas and ideologies. The plan for the next 50 years is already on ground. That is why every leader of ACN will never disagree on important issues when you meet them separately. It is entrench in the parties ideology which is above any member.

[size=14pt]Zoning: ACN, PDP unite in search of Speaker •Main contenders shift lobby to venues of NASS retreat •As Sambo parleys Reps-elect, sells Jonathan’s new agenda [/size]
Written by Taiwo Adisa and Idowu Samuel, Abuja Monday, 16 May 2011

THE battle for the post of Speaker of the House of Representatives in the next National Assembly has taken an interesting turn

in the South-West, following a series of ongoing consultations among members of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party(PDP) and the opposition Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) in the zone.

The PDP had zoned the Speaker position to the South-West in line with the zoning pattern it instituted in 2007.

Though the PDP failed to make much impact in the South-West in the 2011 elections, five of its members were elected into the House of Representatives from the South-West zone. Three of the five are ranking members who could vie for the top position in the House of Representatives.

The ACN, which won a majority of the Reps’ seats in the South-West has 70 members in the House in the incoming session of the National Assembly.

Although the PDP has a majority of the 360 members in the House of Representatives, winning 162 seats, whoever will win the Speaker seat must talk to and win votes of members of the opposition parties.

Sources confirmed to the Nigerian Tribune that the leadership of ACN in the zone appeared to have bought into the quest by the South-West PDP to produce the next Speaker of the House of Representatives.

It was said that there had been some consultative meetings between members of the PDP and the ACN in recent weeks.

One of the leading contenders for the Speaker seat, Honourable Muraina Ajibola, was said to have met with some top ACN leaders last week.

A source told the Nigerian Tribune that the opposition understood the advantage of returning the Speaker position in the zone. Even if the candidate would not be a member of the ACN, it would be beneficial to the larger interest of the South-West.

“I can tell you that the leadership of ACN is convinced that the zoning pattern of the PDP, which favours the South-West producing the Speaker, was not misplaced. The leadership feels that the zone as an important component of the country should be carried along, notwithstanding the inadequacies of the PDP. The party is not opposed to the South-West producing the Speaker and the ACN might just deploy its numbers and goodwill in favour of a preferred candidate,” a source told the Nigerian Tribune.

Horse trading over the position of the Speaker intensified at the weekend with the South-West PDP throwing its weight behind Honourable Ajibola.

But another ranking member, Alhaja Mulikat Adeola, has also been meeting with stakeholders and has sustained her intention to vie for the House’s top Job.

The main contenders have, however, shifted the lobbying sessions to the six venues of the National Assembly retreat for members-elect which took off on Sunday. Sources said that the PDP was trying all options to ensure unity of purpose in the election of the principal officers of the two chambers of the National Assembly.

A source said that the party believed that zoning of party offices was crucial in its arrangement and that it would not allow any of its members truncate the arrangement put in place for 2011 to 2015 so as not to open the party to further challenges.

Meanwhile Vice-President Namadi Sambo has said the new government to be formed by President Goodluck Jonathan would return Nigeria to its glory days, in which the country would emerge as one of the most developed in the comity of nations.

Jonathan, he said, would run a fair and just administration which would not glorify an ethnic group above the other, while all the elements of governance, according to him, would be geared towards the re-awakening of Nigeria as a great country.

Sambo made this known at the Transcorp Hotel, Abuja, during a parley with a group of House of Representatives members-elect drawn from all geopolitical zones.

He urged them to develop the mindset of playing great roles in the task of transforming Nigeria, in line with the dream of the government.

The new members had held a caucus meeting on selection of the next set of leaders in the House of Representatives and had invited the vice-president and a speakership hopeful as special guests.

Sambo commended the initiative of the lawmakers-elect, urging them to shun primordial sentiment in the task of electing new set of leaders in the House.

He promised the full cooperation of the presidency with the emerging legislative House.

Meanwhile, the South-West caucus of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) has formerlly notified President Jonathan and the national headquarters of the party on its standpoint on the post of Speaker of the House of Representatives already zoned to the South-West.

The caucus told the president that it acted in line with the resolve of the extended national caucus of the PDP that the position of speaker of the House of Representatives be zoned to the South-West.

The caucus, in a memo to the president, dated May 13, 2011, said it had met and resolved to support Honourable Muraina Ajibola for the post, adding that it arrived at the decisions after debate by leading members of the party in the zone.

According to the memo signed by Alhaji Tajudeen Oladipo, the caucus said its intervention became necessary, in order to guide the process of emergence of the next speaker from the zone in a manner that would generate the confidence of every stakeholder.

“Your Excellency will recall that at the extended national caucus meeting of our party at Abuja, on May 10, 2001, the position of speaker of the House of Representatives was zoned to the South-West.

“This issue was discussed extensively at the zonal caucus of our party held on May 12, 2011 at the Hilltop Mansion, Abeokuta, Ogun State and it was decided that the South-West will support the nomination of Honourable Muraina Ajibola representing Igboora/Ibarapa federal constituency for the position of speaker,” the memo read.

Attendance at the meeting included the former president, Chief Olu-segun Obasanjo; Alhaji Oladipo; Oyo State governor, Chief Adebayo Alao-Akala; former governor of Osun State, Prince Olagunsoye Oyinlola; former governor of Ekiti State, Chief Olusegun Oni and former governor of Ondo State, Chief Olu-segun Agagu.

Others were Elder Joju Fadairo; Senator Kola Bajomo; Dr Femi Majeko-dunmi; Chief Dejo Afo-labi; Chief Adepegba Otemolu; Alhaji Fagun-wa Kayode; Chief Yemi Farounbi; Honourable Olatunji Odeyemi; Chief Dele Okeya; Chief Paul Afolabi and Ayorinde Oluwayemi.

Also at the meeting were Alhaji Michael Adegbite; Alhaji Busari Akanbi; Prince Adeto-kunbo Kayode; Dr Tayo Dairo; Chief S. A. Ola-dunni; Honourable Da-mola Ijabiyi; Chief Tunde Daramola, Chief R.B.A. Jafojo and Dr Ade Dosunmu.

9ja voice:
beaf I like u so much but sometimes u need to call sometin by its name witout mixing words. i love Gej and voted for him but he is a master of errors always miking silly mistakes. why should he give the chairman to a northern muslim.I can understand it if he choose some of them among the panel but not making them chairman. again why should he neglect the victims witout giving them a sit in the panel. wat a nonsense.

wat type of silly politics is that.do u tink he will use the chairman at will.wat if the man refuse going his direction. Gej should stop exposin christians to danger.

Obiagu1:
How did it buttress your position?
Did it say who the party leaders were? Who was opposing him?

chuks01:
he always gets it wrong from giving 5 million to NYSC victims to going to uganda to felicitate with a dictator and almost getting lynched and then this, we have selected a dummy to rule us for another 4 years, NIGERIANS WHEN WILL YOU LEARN?

Onlytruth:
^^
I posted this in response to Beaf's assertion that no one is demanding the position from the SE.

Folks should be honest.  It serves no one to feign ignorance.

If the position is useless, why was OBJ banging the table.

The whole thing reminds me of when we were kids (about 4-5 years old), my senior brother would openly "steal" the meat in our collective plate of food, and while eating it, he would frown his face as if the meat was bitter.

The trick didn't work on me then. This won't work on me today.

“We thank the people of South-East for their support for President Jonathan in the last elections and their support for other candidates.”

It was further learnt that the leaders of the zone might have decided not to make public their position on the sharing of positions because the zone, allegedly, did not bargain with the president before the elections.

“We are only interested in what will benefit the larger Igbo people for now,” a competent source informed the Nigerian Tribune.