₦airaland Forum

salamsm:
Beaf ignorantly says "I could go on about the daftness of leaders from that area."

Yeah and your leaders are perfect, not corrupt and God-fearing? Don't deceive you're self, you are Nigerian.

Dude, our leaders on this side can be as daft and as corrupt as Anini, but they are not foolish enough to threaten secession like yours are doing. They aren't foolish enough to threaten to unleash Boko Haram as yours are doing either. Can't you see the difference?

In the meantime, all we are saying is, if they try Boko Haram; it will be forcibly put down. If they try war, they won't last a week; afterall weapons cost money and all thats there is sand. If they try secession, we will celebrate, clap for them, help them pack, kiss their kids goodbye and mark that day for remembrance.

M16:
LMAO @ beaf.
you are really tooo intelligent. Adamawa is not fulani. WTF .Jeez you must posses an A1 in geography . Wow Admiral Muritala Nyako(governor of Adamawa), Adamu Atiku, Bamanga Tukur, Buba Marwa must be efik's or closet light skinned ijaw's


I laff in fulfulde

They've got some Fulani, but those ones will be cut off and sent to the core Northern states. Even Kwara has Fulani too, buts that the beauty of the invention called motorised transport.
As soon as their brothers declare their secession, we will put them on lorries headed for their homes, no free launches.

salamsm:
Everyone comes here highlighting problems with the North like thats whats wrong with Nigeria.

Last time I checked, alot of the corrupt leaders are from all parts of Nigeria, OBJ is not from the North. Do you think if the east and west are divided, it will make them free of all their problems. I certainly think not.

Not all countries in the world have oil, as a matter of fact, only a handful of countries in the world have oil. The rest of them still make it without oil. Im alarmed by people's shortsightedness on here. I guess that's why Nigeria isn't really progressing.

Instead of addressing our problems, we like to blame others as we typically do. Nigerian way of doing things.

If you come on here with so much hate an anger, get off your back side and do something for your community or state, instead of being on here complaining. Most people cannot even stand up to their local councilors and chairman, yet they come on here crying.

Dude, address your leaders who have ruled for 39 of our 50 years first, then come back. Do you know what it means to rule for 80% of a country's lifetime and think you can somehow share the blame for failure with others?
Dude, the failure of your leaders is stark and visible in the decay up North. Have you sat down to ask yourself why the area that has ruled Nigeria for 80% of her existence is the only area to produce Maitatsine's, Boko Harams, Kala Kato's and other fcked up crowds that kill their fellow Nigerian guests for the price of a loaf of bread?

@M16

The bulk of foodstuff comes from Benue, Plateau and Adamawa anyway, none of which is the core North or a Hausa Fulani state. They are all Middle Belt.

Now tell me, what grows in the core North?
Nothing?
Abi you tink say we de eat millet? So, if anybody threaten to fck off, they can simply fck off and the rest of us will clap for them and throw a feast. I can bet you that day will be commemorated as remembrance day.

M16:
If you can do without beaf,onions,potatoes,oranges,mangoes,tomatoes, pepper,tatase,yam, even your ordinary groundnut, then lets see
remember when trucks of foodstuff stopped coming to lagos

Na hungry go kill southern Nigeria ooooh

What stops such foodstuff coming in from Benin Republic or Cameroon, especially if we make oil a bit cheaper for them?

The core Northern elite have nothing to offer, but almajiri's and Bojo Haram. After ruling the country for 39 of our 50 years, the region is still blighted with shocking levels of illiteracy, poverty, diseases that have been eradicated in all other parts of the World (polio), child marriages (average marriage age for girls is 13 in areas like Kebbi). . . I could go on about the daftness of leaders from that area.

Dude, it isn't difficult to resize a picture. Its as easy as 2 + 2 actually, so someone who can do it for you (if you are seriously allergic to computers, that is), cannot be too far away.

Please do us a favour, I am begging and post the pic. Abeg.

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That is why we are begging and praying that they take up their foolish threat and leave Nigeria, where they are currently parasites and almajiri's.
Let them learn that it is possible to make a living without begging or stealing. Amen!

M16:
Third question of the million dollar series

Which tribe will be the first to rule the new southern Nigeria

Ijaws,Ibibio,Kalabari, Itshekiri's if Ibo's would ever allow them smell am, abi youruba man will ever allow an Ibo man to rule over him, talk less of south south

come to think of it, excluding Yorubaland(western Nigeria) that new nation of southern Nigeria would be Biafra

When the main opposers of true federalism are gone, guess what the new system of govt will be?
The centre will be so weak that it won't be worth the fight; political tribalism will simply follow the core North into the desert.

[quote author=naija_swag link=topic=516799.msg6795581#msg6795581 date=1285094693]Over the blood of all those gallant men who lost their lives in the Nigerian-Biafran war.The North cannot secede.Nigeria must, I emphasize must remain united.I am ready to take up arms today to support this cause of Nigeria unity.[/quote]Then take up your arms and head to the core North where they are planning to release Boko Haram and other worthless almajiri's, you're getting late already.

[size=14pt]IBB HAS SINNED - HASSAN KOTANGORA[/size]

Alhaji Hassan Sani Kontagora (Magajin Rafi) and Chief Executive of the now rested Kaduna-based Hotline Magazine is not only a publisher. He has over the years been involved in charting the course for the political future of the North.

Hassan, in his characteristic candour, dwelt on why the North should forget the Presidency of the country in 2011, the behind-the-scene moves of the northern elite after late President Umaru Yar'Adua was flown to Saudi Arabia and how the region lost out in the power equation that was to follow.

This interview is full of strong feelings and angry arguments. For instance, when the Magajin Rafi recalled the role of the northern governors in the debate over the zoning of Nigeria's presidency, he descended on them, as it were. 'From today, no governor should come out and tell people that the North said this because they have no right to do that…Being a governor does not confer on you the right to become our mouthpiece,' he says. Excerpts…

You are one of the strong voices in the North who has always moulded the opinion of a wide spectrum of people in the region. One wonders why you have suddenly kept quiet in the face of the controversy surrounding the 2011 elections.

Honestly, Kenny, I will not argue with you because you were not around Kaduna and you are not an Hausa programme listener. And you know, I have a target audience. They are my people and they are yet to understand what is happening. So, they come to me most of the time and I talk to them. I necessarily, therefore, have to speak to them in Hausa.

You know, I am disappointed that journalists don't approach people who are genuinely interested in getting the feelings of our people across because as an opinion moulder in this part of the country, I don't think I need to go to journalists to ask them to come and interview me. I thought they should know that I can say things that people should understand or can understand and would benefit from. If they reason that way, they should have come.

I started this fight since November last year. Umaru Yar'Adua left this country on November 23. I granted an interview on November 25. I said in that interview I granted to Nagarta Radio, an Hausa radio station based in Kaduna, that it is only a mad man who is sick that would expect Umaru will come back and rule this country. He was not well. We knew he could not go. Let us all admit it. There was no need to pretend in that position or during that time. All we needed to do to help Umaru, even if he was going to leave the office, was to go in peace and respect.

Did you suggest that to your fellow northerners?
You are going to publish this. Aren't you? Let anybody come out and controvert this. Or if you are going, I can give you the tapes of the interviews I did.

What was their response when you told them?
[b]They refused. And what annoyed me most was that…because we said it was our turn we brought somebody who was not well. Now if we refused to give the person who should be given as dictated by the Constitution, we would have a problem. I told them then that you people are saying it is our turn, I agree, but this is the way to do it. Let us ask Jonathan to hold the office till the end of Umaru's tenure as a form of agreement. They refused until they came up with the rubbish idea of consensus proposal, which is not in the Constitution. Jonathan was then the Vice-President, who was supposed to be given the powers in accordance with the Constitution. I told them that we should be careful because they have never been President. The only person we have heard of is Chief Okotie-Eboh.

These people have never tasted the presidency; they have never been Head of State. But we, northerners, have been Head of State either through the barrel of the gun or whatever. Let us show that sincerity, (but) they refused. Now that what we predicted is happening, I said to them they deserve it because I am not a dishonest person. I am not going to be a party to people who are sycophants, people who are hypocrites.

I want any northerner, who is worth his salt to reply after I have said this, that they are only calling themselves politicians but in reality they are only defending their interests. The North has passed that stage. The North is going to take its own decision. It will take its stand and we have taken that.[/b]

Are you saying all those who have been speaking are not northerners?

They are politicians. Whatever they have said has element of selfishness. Why would somebody like Ibrahim Babangida look for the presidency of this country? I am asking you. Why?

Why not? Is he not a Nigerian? The Constitution gives all Nigerians the right to aspire to any position once you meet the demands of such an office.

Very good. When it was time for elections in 1998, why didn't he present himself if he wanted to be president again?

There was a lingering problem at that time.
Which lingering problem?
The annulment of the June 12, 1993 presidential poll brought a lot of problems that threatened the unity of this country. So, the people of the South West needed to be placated.

Very good. You talked about the South West. Are they the only people in this country? When he (Babangida) was stepping aside, who did he put there? Tell me. I am asking you. You are a Nigerian. When Babangida was going; when he was stepping aside, who did he put?

There was an Interim National Government
Who headed the Interim National Government? Tell me.

Chief Earnest Shonekan
From where is Shonekan?
South West
So he did not finish that lingering problem. Do you think it is honest and sincere for anybody in 1999 to give a Yoruba man the Presidency of this country? A Yoruba man that became the President for four years? That after him, there was a Yoruba man who headed the Interim National Government? If we want to be sincere, if we wanted a southerner to be President of this country…we are looking at Chief (MKO) Abiola…

(Cuts in) The injury to the people of the South West was…

(Cuts in) Wait, let me finish please. When I start, I have to finish. At that time, it was not only Babangida who opposed Chief Abiola. Even his (Abiola) own people opposed him. And he (Babangida) should not play with our future because of his own mistake. He made that mistake alone. So, he cannot try to use us in order to solve his problem. No. He should use us to solve the problem of this country. Nobody can take the gun because of Chief Abiola now.

The people who have never been President of this country are those from South-South and Igbo because General Aguiyi Ironsi was there for only six months and he was killed. Therefore, Chief Alex Ekwueme was the right person in 1999 to have been the President of this country. We would have been in peace today. Why didn't they do that? Because they wanted to satisfy their own political ambition, they used us. Now, nobody can do that. I am telling you, nobody.

Would it be right to say you understand the politics of this country and its dynamics very well?

I don't know…But as a publisher, I do. In this time that we are, what we are looking for is not for us to say I am from the north, south or the west because they don't exist. You cannot allow me to use that system during my father's time and till today, in 2010 when I am talking of 50 years of independence, you are trying to talk to me along religious or tribal lines.

No. I had a lot of friends in my secondary school. My best of friends were Christians. Even now, we are the people who are supposed to be afraid of all these things because we have more complicated issues, like them, here in the North.

I want you to be more specific. Why do you want the South-South and by extension Dr Jonathan to be president in 2011?

I said President Jonathan came with Umaru (Yar'Adua) as one ticket. If, therefore, Umaru is not there, it should be who? Is that not so? I am asking you.

That tenure would end in 2011
Which tenure?
The tenure of the joint ticket you talked about
But I said before it expires, the short time Jonathan took over, I like it. So has he no right to aspire for it? Or is he no longer a Nigerian that you said has the constitutional right to contest? I am asking you.

Go on and articulate your points why you want Jonathan to contest

Their tenure would end in 2011. Fine. Today, he is the President because of the death of Umaru. Now, I am going for Jonathan because of the argument we had earlier. I am thinking that there is an issue under the carpet, which made me to say they just want to use him and us. So I will not agree. You know why I said that? When Obasanjo was going (to contest), Babangida in 1999 did not ask us. But they went by themselves. And they are the only party that did that, contrary to the Constitution of this country, to say they are going to put somebody from the south.

They did not ask us. You get what I am saying? This is because they wanted to wipe out that problem, like you said earlier, of Chief Abiola.

Our feelings and let me say suspicion now is that Babangida is presently fighting tooth and nail for the presidency because there was an agreement. And the agreement was to bring somebody who was sick because northerners did not say they wanted Umaru. They just picked him even though they knew he was sick. Babangida and Obasanjo colluded to make Umaru the president because of his (Babangida's) desire to become the President, even though they knew he could hardly go beyond four years in office. Babangida has the ambition to become the President of this country, even if it is for four years. So they put Umaru, believing that if Umaru goes, Babangida would get the presidency easily, using the argument that the presidency is for the North. And this is what is happening now.

Sincerely, don't you think the Presidency should go to the North? The logic is that assuming the late president was alive and kicking, he would have gone for a second term. Therefore, what they are saying is, zone this position to where it ought to be.

[b]I said I don't want zoning. I believe in the Constitution of this country. I believe anybody in this country can be…kai, let me tell you, it is because I have no money. If you can give me money, I will contest. If I have a brother in the south, he can contest. In fact the Constitution of this country says you can be the President as long as you are a Nigerian. How many people are winning elections in their places of residence? We have Yorubas in Kano, in Kaduna, Igbos in Kaduna. So who are you to stop anybody?

In that case, we are not practising democracy. What I know about democracy is that it is the government of the people by the people for the people. So, why don't you allow people to do it the way it is done? You cannot give me half-baked bread and boast you are giving me bread. No. I want you to give me bread. If you are giving me democracy, give me democracy. If you are not giving me democracy, don't give me democracy. So, I am not going to be under the tutelage of this retired Army Generals doing what they want.

What I have said to you is that Jonathan is my brother. We, the North, said we are accepting him. Let people not misunderstand the North. People of the North are brought up with sincerity, honesty, dedication and a desire not to cheat anybody. We (North) have been President of this country for almost nine times. The South has been President only for about three times. They have never complained. So, we want them to have it this time around.[/b]

Majority of the elite in the North believe it is the turn of the region and…

(Cuts in) Who are they? I say who are they? Mention one of them.

For instance, Ciroma has been insisting that…
Which Ciroma? Who is Ciroma?
Please, don't remind us about these old politicians. They know it. Please, don't let us start talking about people who when they have finished, their wives would do. We are not going to be talking of people who when they go, their in-laws would go. Is that the kind of politicians whose views northerners would respect? No. We are talking of people who have nothing except the interest of the people and who would go into government and do something for them.

How many of you are in this class? I'm sure you are not the only one with that kind of philosophy.

You are going to publish all I have said. And if anybody says he is not in this class, let him talk. Let us open up a debate. We are going to talk to the northern masses lest we are misunderstood by our southern brothers. We are the ones that care about them. They know it. But if it is somebody in Abuja because he is an old politician who has been there for more than 30 years, who is not bothered about any other person except himself, his children and brothers, I am challenging them to talk. It is not only Adamu Ciroma.

I challenge all of them, including Aliyu Gusau and Babangida, to come out. And we are warning them to stop. We are going for Jonathan because we are Muslims who believe in sincerity, honesty, equity and justice. We believe that, comparatively, Jonathan has the qualities of a good leader and that is all we want. We believe Jonathan. Even in our book, the Holy Quran, it is said that any man, whether Christian or Jew who is more honest, more sincere, is better than you who think you are a Muslim. And in the North, we have a lot of them.

Babangida is not the only presidential aspirant from the North. There is also Atiku and Buhari. What is your rating of these aspirants?

Atiku has not told you he wants the presidency at all costs.

But he is also saying it is the turn of the North. He even said he is prepared to make the sacrifice if that would bring the presidency to the North.

Please understand me. Nobody is stopping Babangida, Atiku or Buhari. Maybe Balarabe Musa would also join the race. So if we have this number of contestants from the North, why are they making noise? Jonathan has not stopped anybody from contesting. And they have the right to run. So, why the argument? Is this not democracy? If it is, they should allow us to decide who we want. We have a lot of northerners in the race, so why are they afraid? Let Jonathan and all of them from the North come out. Nobody is arguing with them. They are the ones crying why Jonathan, why Jonathan like babies. Jonathan is only a fisherman.

Why are they afraid of a hook when you have a General who has a gun?

So we said, let Jonathan come out. Let Babangida, Atiku, Buhari and any other person come out. It is left for us to choose who we want. But please let nobody make it look like a geographical or regional affair. In the North, we have Muslims and Christians and we are living peacefully. We are brothers and sisters. Nobody should bring that kind of thing now because of his selfish interest because all of them are doing it because of their selfish interest. What have they done to the North? I challenge them.

Today, within this short time, go and see what the governors of the South-South, South East and South West are doing. What have our people done? Am I the only one to be called almajiri? No. I don't have almajiri. My people made almajiri. So, I want people who will come and bring the good things of life for my people. I am not an almajiri. If I have brothers who don't care about the interest of my people, I have nothing to do with them. If I have Jonathan who cares about the interest of my people, I have something to do with him.

Babangida had been in power and many northerners have been in power. Today, Zungeru is going to have a power station. Today, Jebba is going to be repaired. Today, in Taraba State, something that has not been anticipated on the Mambilla Plateau, the hydro electricity plan is on. Where were my brothers, the northern leaders all these years? So, you see, this is the issue. Umaru came with a laudable programme, roads, railways and others. And somebody will come and tell me I should have nothing to do with Jonathan. This man is not only going ahead with them, he has even improved on what Umaru wanted to do. I like him. But I won't go to anybody to look like a beggar. I want to be myself.

The people in Abuja are not representing me. Let Jonathan know that the northern politicians in Abuja are not representing the North. The Abuja politicians of northern extraction would have to do it the way we want it. They will not come here to tell us where to go. We are the people to tell them what we want. From today, no governor from the North should come out and tell people that the north said this because they have no right to do that. They should go and do their governorship in accordance with the living standards of their people.

The governors we have now are only wasting their time talking all the time; doing nothing for us. We are saying they should stop. Being a governor does not confer on you the right to be our mouthpiece. We are our own mouthpiece.

So, if any governor again dares to start talking… They came to Kaduna to tell Nigerians that they are ten governors that want zoning of the presidency to the North. Is (Ibrahim) Shekarau a PDP governor? Is (Ali) Modu Sheriff a PDP governor? Why did they vote? So let nobody again come to fool us. We can now see that even the Ministers are there only for their in-laws, children and wives.

I have been seeing posters of Aliyu Gusau. Why is he still there? He should have left and come to look for the votes he said he is looking for. Why is he still in the government of the person he says he doesn't want? I am warning any northerner and walahi talahi as Hassan Sani Kontagora, Magajin Rafi, that he should no longer talk on behalf of the people of the North, especially people that we know do not have the interest of the people of the north in their hearts other than their children, wives and in-laws. We have respected elders and leaders. They refused them to come close to the government. They are there always travelling to build houses in Dubai, America and Europe. They should be careful. Goodluck has come; change has come, light has come. Walahi talahi, I am a Muslim and I say Goodluck is my brother.

What do you want in the circumstance?
Let me be very clear to you, a lot of people think Babangida has boys. He hasn't. Let Babangida know. He should know I am not his boy. I am only his brother. I am not his errand boy. If Babangida is looking for the presidency of this country, he should go and look for it. But we are telling him that we are not with him. He should know the North is not with him. Anybody who doubts it should come to the North and ask me. And I am telling them if Babangida has paid something to make us support him by all means; if he thinks he has done something for us to be his boys, he should talk.

He has been President; he has the right to be President. But that right only remains for him to be if he wants to be. It is also our right to elect who we want to elect. This time, it is our right to elect the person we want and that person is Goodluck Ebele Jonathan. This time around, the North is going for Jonathan and nobody should talk of politics of sectional interest. Jonathan is a unifying factor. If he succeeds, we succeed.

Why are you after Babangida when there are other contestants from the North?

If Babangida can be President for eight years and he is not contented; he cannot go and seek forgiveness from his God and he is still willing to come back and look for it by all means, then something is amiss. If I were him and I have being the President of this country, even for two or three years, I should have gone back to my God and supplicate to Him so that he can forgive me for whatever I might have done wrong. But he has forgotten the years he did, what he did and he thinks that at the age of over 70 he can still come and do what he wants. It is over.

Please tell him that even Maradona had a coach. When Maradona was a player, he scored legally and even with his hands. That was what Babangida did. That time has passed. He should retrace his steps and become a coach like Maradona. I don't care if Babangida is printing posters or not. Did you see his posters in my house? As you enter my street, did you see his poster? Haba! if Babangida is wasting his money printing posters, he should go. It is his money.

You saw his posters and that of Aliyu Gusau. If these people are honest to themselves, I am challenging Babangida and Aliyu Gusau why they are printing posters. They cannot deceive us any longer. How can the two of them be printing posters? Something is fishy. Please nobody should fool us again. We are mature to take decisions on our own and we are going to take that decision. Tell them that they are wasting their time.

Source: NBF News
Story from The Nigerian Voice News:
http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/nvnews/34768/1/ibb-has-sinned-hassan-kotangora.html

Published: Sunday, September 19, 2010


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There is no other way to deal with this story other than to paste the whole article, after the unfortunate interjection of NL's chief clown. So here goes. . .

Kobojunkie:
But I was not responding to the INTERVIEW but your quip up there on the election

I cannot understand how your original comment can possibly be justified. It seems quite a few NLers derive satisfaction in derailing or killing threads for the fun of it.

Hassan Kontagora has always been a voice that commands rapt attention. It is a shame that you have not bothered to check the article that forms the background for the OP's "quip" as you put, before jumping in head first with a very unintelligent response.

Please, let our responses to important issues be studied and borne out of common sense.

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Jonathans good mind is obvious from the way his eyes spackle joyfully when he smiles.
They say the eyes never lie.

E be like say tins don already begin get k leg for di consensus candidate.

[size=14pt]Gusau denies dumping Northern pact on single candidacy [/size]
Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:00 Max Amuchie
•Jonathan accepts his resignation

Former National Security Adviser (NSA), Aliyu Gusau, has denied report that he has dumped the agreement reached by the four presidential aspirants from the North to present one candidate for the presidential ticket of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP). Speaking in an exclusive interview on Monday with BusinessDay, Ben Obi, director-general of the Aliyu Gusau Campaign Organisation, said the campaign organisation was not aware that the veteran intelligence and security chief had given any condition for abiding by the agreement.

A newspaper report (not BusinessDay) on Monday quoted Gusau as saying that he would step down from the race only if another aspirant, former military President Ibrahim Babangida also stepped down. Last weekend, directors-general of the campaign organisations of Babangida, Gusau, former Vice President Atiku Abubakar and Kwara State governor, Bukola Saraki, had announced an agreement reached by the four Northern aspirants to support one from among them to be sole candidate for the presidential ticket of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) for the 2011 election. The campaign managers also announced the formation of an eight-man committee to implement the agreement.

Obi told BusinessDay that nothing has changed from the statement by the group last week that the four Northern aspirants would support one candidate. Meanwhile, the presidency has faulted the manner in which Gusau resigned from the government. In an interview with BusinessDay, a source in the presidency said the former NSA did not comply with Section 306 of the Nigerian constitution which stipulates the procedure for resignation. He said the government first heard of the former NSA’s disengagement from government on Saturday before President Goodluck Jonathan’s declaration at Eagle Square through Radio France International but Obi told BusinessDay that Gusau’s resignation took effect Monday, apparently to coincide with the deadline for the collection of nomination forms for the 2011 election.

The source in the presidency said when the rumour of Gusau’s presidential bid initially started, he told the government that it was mere speculation and that he had nothing to do with it. Gusau had contested the PDP presidential primaries in 2006 but lost to then Katsina State governor, Umaru Musa Yar’Adua, who emerged as consensus candidate.

Meanwhile, the former NSA on Monday beat the deadline to pick the form. However, the ruling party has extended the deadline for submission of nomination for various offices by 24 hours before screening. As at Monday, Atiku had not submitted and it was also not clear if Gusau had submitted. Meanwhile, the presidency has accepted the resignation of the National Security Adviser, retired Lt.-Gen. Mohammed Aliyu Gusau with effect from Monday, a statement said.

The statement by the special adviser to the president on media and publicity, Ima Niboro, said President Goodluck Jonathan had accepted his resignation. “Gusau had in a letter to President Jonathan dated Thursday, September 16, informed the president of his desire to play an active part in the 2011 elections.

“Consequently, he requested the president’s permission to vacate the office of National Security Adviser,” the statement said. The official confirmation of Gusau’s resignation has ended speculations of his desire to contest the presidential poll in 2011. Before his resignation, Gusau’s posters had been visible in many towns and cities, including Abuja.

http://www.businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13703:gusau-denies-dumping-northern-pact-on-single-candidacy&catid=85:national&Itemid=340

vedaxcool:
Reading your reply one would think you had hot Egba in your mouth,lol!, but seriously so the northerners that went for GEJ declaration went there in body only, man you can think better than that, furthermore you showed your Sagacity in understanding simple English, as I said clearly you and your Cohorts do not even understand your neighbor--the northerners-- next door yet you said I brought religion into the Discussion, man I wonder whether you read by approximation not word for word, Furthermore you showed how sincere you are, as the senate that made GEJ the acting President is only composed of Sourtherners, man I clap for your "Intelligence" , as the senate is composed of both Northern and Southern people and they Voted in Unison to make GEJ acting President yet your Heart is so Jaundiced that all the Northerners ganged up together and furstrated GEJ till Yar'adua death,even while they where Northerners that vioced their opposition to the way the Yar'dua saga was being handled, again only a fool will think you can become president without any part of the north supporting you,yet they are many Northern gorvonors who actively Support GEJ, and other Politicians also give him their support whether it is out of their greed or not --they give him Support, you said all their Imams call Southerners infidels, is that what you grandfather told you? coz it is false as the Sultan of Sokoto Prayed behind a Yoruba Imam, if that was how they viewd things the emir would have stayed far and again this same sultan has been in contact with kings from other parts of the country notably meeting Igwes in the south, You can believe what you want to as I have come accross men with more foolish opinion than yours, as all this deep seated hatred against

Dude, you might not have noticed, but we know the difference between North and core North. You either don't know the difference, or you are just confused.
If the core North says they want to leave, then we say bye to them! What is all the senate and governor stuff about? Are all Northern politicians from the core North?

HAH:
The truth of the matter is that the north is the stabilizing factor in present nigeria. Deep down our minds we know that the Igbo prefers the Hausa than Yoruba, Yoruba prefers Hausa than Igbo and the other southern minority will also prefer a Hausa man than other southerners.

From the above analysis if the north should secede the south will be melting pot of conflict among themselves.

This is bloody untrue.
Every part of Nigeria aside from the core North craves true federalism. The core North is against true federalsim only because it will stop them sipping oil from a long range and stealing Nigeria blind.
The moment they are gone, the rest of the country will adopt true federalisim, with each region being semi-autonomous and paying taxes to a weak centre which wouldn't be worth fighting for. There will also be no more monthly handouts from Abuja, every region will have to develop or die. Almajiri style begging in Abuja is the only thing the core North is stabilising.

13volts:
Even if the north break away it wil not stop militancy in the ND kidnapping and armed robbery in the east but rather aggravate it wit an influx of millions of migrating southners from the north. In house fighting wil be the order, niger republic wit less resources than the northern 9jah survived, we can do better. But dis wil not happen until d oil well dried up

That will be for the South to decide. Maybe, we would rather have that than some core North baboons who think they were born to rule.
In the South and Middle Belt, you would find a nation without Boko Haram, practicing true federalism and fcking developing at a pace that would stun those who knew the old Nigeria.

The core North would be very free to go to any radical lengths with sharia etc. We would just need a very strong border, probably a high wall with an electrified fence separating you guys from us.

Your leaders are the ones threatening to leave and we accept and even [size=14pt]beg [/size] them to carry out the threat.

udezue:
They will be prosperous. One of the richest nations to emerge out of Africa. I beg like I said anytime they are ready I will throw my support. I will even pick up arms and butcher anyone from the South sef who stands in their way. [size=14pt]Lets encourage them instead of all this yeye talk about them starving to death bla bla bla. People no sabi use common sense. You have a pest that is thinking about leaving you alone and instead of welcoming the idea you tell the pest of what he will be missing and losing if he finally leaves you alone. Kaiiiii!!!!!!!!![/size]

Southerners are complete MORONS.

Seconded.

She also stated that the federal government's vision was to retain over $10 billion out of an average annual oil and gas industry expenditure of $20 billion in the Nigerian economy compared to the current sum of less than $4 billion.

Doing the math, that is a full $6billion worth of local business to be created! There is a lot of new direction and vision in the petroleum sector, some of which will no doubt, spill off into other areas and accelerate our development.

[size=14pt]Exxonmobil Pioneers Use of Made-in-Nigeria Pipes[/size]
Posted on: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:08:06 EDT

Abuja, Sep 21, 2010 (Leadership/All Africa Global Media via COMTEX) --
American energy giant, ExxonMobil has pioneered the use of made-in-Nigeria pipes in the oil and gas industry as the company is set to deploy Helical Submerged Arc Welded (HSAW) pipes fabricated locally by SCC Pipe Mills for its Usari-Idoho pipeline replacement project in Akwa Ibom State.

The project is in the shallow water oil fields of ExxonMobil and the pipes will be used to replace the 24 inch oil pipeline connecting the Usari and Idoho platforms, which have a water depth of 21 meters.

This will be the first time made-in-Nigeria pipes are used for an oil and gas project in the country by any international or local operating company and is expected to unlock investments in pipe mills and other oil industry support facilities.

The Executive Secretary of the Nigerian Content Development and Monitoring Board, Engr. Ernest Nwapa, disclosed this recently in Yenagoa, Bayelsa State, at a meeting with representatives of China's major welded line pipe maker, Jiangsu Yulong Steel Pipe, led by its Director of Sales, Mr. M. A. Abbas.

According to him, "A number of investors had firmed up plans to establish pipe mills and related facilities in Calabar, Koko, Gbaran Ubie, but were delaying their final investment decisions over concerns that SCC, which had invested in a pipe mill in the country, was not being patronised by the industry.

He described the use of SCC pipes by Exxon Mobil as a breakthrough in the implementation of the Nigerian Content Act and a strong signal that government will ensure that any investment in oil and gas industry support facilities will be protected and patronised.

Nwapa further advised serious investors to accelerate their projects so as to take advantage of the Nigerian Gas Master Plan, infrastructure project and the Calabar-AKK pipeline project which the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation is promoting on behalf of the federal government.

[size=14pt]The Minister of Petroleum Resources, Mrs. Deziani Alison-Madueke, had stated two weeks ago during the inauguration of the Governing Council of NCDMB by President Goodluck Jonathan, that the steadfast implementation of the Nigerian Content Act will, in the next four years, lead to the establishment of three to four new pipe mills and other ancillary manufacturing plants to service the demands of the industry.

She also stated that the federal government's vision was to retain over $10 billion out of an average annual oil and gas industry expenditure of $20 billion in the Nigerian economy compared to the current sum of less than $4 billion. [/size]

The Usari-Idoho pipeline replacement project is being executed by Saipem Nigeria for ExxonMobil and extensive tests were carried out on the pipes both locally and overseas, which confirmed that they met all required technical specifications.

The executive secretary stressed that with the confirmation that the pipes fabricated by SCC met all international standards, there was no reason why other operating companies in Nigeria will not source their pipes from the company and other proposed pipe mills across the country.

Nwapa also noted that NCDMB had insisted that any of the proposed Nigerian pipe mills that could meet the project schedule of the Calabar-AKK pipeline project or any project in the oil and gas industry would be fully utilised before any quantity can be imported.

Although, the SCC pipe mill has a capacity of producing 30,000 tonnes at a time and an annual capacity of 100,000 tons, the only order placed in the factory since it was upgraded three years ago was the 6,000 tons placed by Exxon Mobil in 2007.

Nwapa, however, revealed that Shell and Agip were processing orders for supply of line pipes from the SCC mill and charged other operators to toe the same line in order to encourage keen investors to progress their pipe mill construction.

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chyz:
Sorry the Urobos alone is small compared to the Igbo and even when combine with the Isoko they are still not as large as the igbos:

http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/uploads/maps/stateMaps/images/684e33e69135b0143fa618a1fe70e03d53b840bb.jpg

That has to be the funniest and craziest way of calculating population!
Figures and hard political realities on the ground are far superior to maps, don't you think?
Its ok to claim though, cos it ends up neither here nor there and life goes on as fact and reality dictate.

chyz:
They are. i said "single" largest. if not then which tribe is?

Urhobo.

chyz:
And how does the country staying together,federalism or not stop the minority tribes from screaming 'marginalization'? In delta state alone the igbos are the single largest tribe amongst various tribes, the same goes for the yorubas with kwara,the idoma with benue,etc.

Nigeria staying together will just continue to be a tug of war for resources. Federalism is not the answer.It'll still never work especially since the same elites will be in the same positions as now.

They are not, and the political reality on the ground says so. IBB played them a serious bad hand and thats what has to be resolved, not making claims that don't bear scrutiny.

Back to topic.

jamace:
Even if the threat is real, it can't cause any real fear any where because every body is ready for any eventuality. Nigeria belongs to all. Gone are the days of docility. Any attempt will be met with "fire for fire".

Thank you!
I wonder why those !diots think they run a monopoly when it comes to mayhem?

You know the funniest part of all this? They are so desperate for power that in the past when oil supply was threatened by militants, the desperate fool, Yar Adua signed away our sovereignty to AFRICOM, he thought the high tech AFRICOM would rush into the Niger Delta and roast all militants, cos our own army was losing men at a bad rate. . . Only, it turned out that the US was more concerned with the Mutalabs, Boko Harams, Kala Kato's and all the other religious fckers the core Northern elite nutures and nourishes for times of mayhem. Well, Yar Adua signed on the dotted line only to begin denying it when he finally realised he should have read the document before signing.

What makes the AFRICOM thing so funny, is that, the fools are threatening to use religion as a political tool to cause bloodshed, which will threaten America's supply of oil and surely see US marines parachuting into the suburbs of Sokoto, Kano, Kaduna etc.

The educated PhD holder in Jonathan would NEVER have signed Nigeria away to AFRICOM. Here's a quote from a post I made some time ago on the topic (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-405620.32.html);

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=405620.msg5602700#msg5602700 date=1267385999]I'm not following you, what did Yar'Adua do to sign away our independence? What will be overturned? Educate me please.[/quote]

Beaf: When Yar Adua went to visit George Bush at the White House, he drank tea, eat cakes, saw wonderful hedges and suddenly decided Africom was a very good thing indeed. Whereas, in public, he and other African leaders had been "strongly" opposed to the presence of US troops on African soil.
Maybe he even promised George Bush one of his many daughters.

Yar Adua was just being daft and shortsighted simply because MEND was giving the army a black eye at the time. Solving the ND problem has always been far less costly than the stup!d measures govt has turned to. But thats what you get in a country predominantly ruled by mental dwarfs.

[quote author=Yar_Adua]We have discussed security issues and the security within Nigeria, itself, within the Niger Delta region and within the Gulf of Guinea. And we have also discussed security issues -- peace and security on the African continent. And we shall partner with (inaudible) to assist not only Nigeria, but also the African continent to actualize its peace and security (inaudible) initiative, which is an initiative to help standby forces of brigade-size in each of the regional economic groupings within the African continent.

- Yar Adua[/quote]The above is the biggest betrayal Nigeria has ever had, by the very same clique who want power by any means and will go to any length, which includes selling all Nigerians into slavery. And here's the foolish man, smiling stup!dly at the fateful meeting (THANK GOD IT HAS BLOWN UP IN THEIR FACES), Yar Adua was a disgrace to Nigeria in every single way, yet they plan to force more of his type on us through "zoning." Let the crisis start Jare!

When I first read the story several hours ago, my first reaction was to think that the "prophet" should be locked up. That will stop others like him from heating up society with their false and evil prophesies.

amingafar:
we dont know the difference! why cant sout people think, you all tink you know everytin , most of us muslim middle belt pput religion before humanity we are outnumbered by fulanis and hausas so most see it best to join the killin then opposing it. Imagine a tribe of 2 million outnumbered by 40 million hausas and fulanis. Mos are scared to oppose that is why ibb abacha join the hausas and fulanis. In niger state half are xtian but we have sharia!


muslims are not dumb but when you talk of Allah we are blind. as i talk to you now you are only saying jos and benue, why not add niger state kwara and nasswara because most are muslim and illiterate and it is a strong possibility they can align with the core north, the saame way ibb saraki, aliyu doma, have done

in kogi state we are mixed both muslim and christian but the last govenors are muslims why cant an igala christian be govenor? most of us in the middle belt feel outnumbered

I mentioned Plateau and Benue, because alone, they make up close to 40% of the army. As I said earlier, any Northern war on the South would simply be suicide, so if you guys feel so outnumbered that wisdom flies and you join the disadvantaged side, you wouldn't have anyone to blame. Plateau and Benue have chosen were they want to be, cos they are smart. If religious dogma makes anybody to be so foolish that they are mere tools, who do you blame when inevitable disaster visits?

PapaBrowne:
^^^^
Wow!! So busted! What a cheap tabloid. How could SR be that desperate as to photoshop pictures to prove a false point!!

It gets worse when you notice that the 4 half unclothed men are really two men! Punch has some pictures with people dressed like this in their gallery, so who knows? We just might find that these two men don't even know the direction to Abuja, but might have been photographed in far away Kafanchan and shamelessly photoshoped unto the events at Eagle Square!

amingafar:
kaita! nyou are getin smarter. in d article it says the ethnic militia boko haram, in the north boko haram is an islamic movement it isnt known as ethnic,, the core north want to use it as weapom againsr southerners but here we will think its about religion. this wat i been sayin.

if igboman ever wins against a northerner (i doubt) these elements will still be there. they are mixing ethnicity with religion to confuse us in the middle belt.

ibb is using  islam in the north to get far by not sayin anything about the killings and religous wars. while gowon obasanjo spoke about the violence in the middle belt and core north, ibb was quiet he didnt say anytin cause he does not care

Are you saying the average Muslim is stup!d? Because, I don't think so. They can pay Boko Haram and other hoodlums, but the army will put them down ruthlessly.

Another thing, it is quite clear that even with all the weapons World right now, the North cannot fight for longer than a week without fuel and oil money to buy replenishments for spent and destroyed arms. All suspect Northern commanders in the South will very likely be relocated or moved to non-essential duties. It will be 100% suicide for the core North to ever attempt to challenge the South and Middle Belt to war. It will be total destruction.

chyz:
If wish it were that easy but he has loyalty to Dambazzua and the "North" this can cause a coup if not handled smartly right. Plus Dambazzau is furious about his being sacked and i guarantee you he is making plans along with soldiers and northern elite to overthrow the government. There is no way hes just going to sit down and let it go by.

Dambazzau has no power left, except someone gives it to him.

One thing that strikes me in all of this though, is that IBB and Atiku have opposition from a very sizable proportion of Northern youth, so it looks like a very long stretch to pull this off. The above, coupled with the fact that an overwhelming proportion of junior officers is from Plateau state (similar to non commision officers hailing from Benue) makes it seem near impossible for the core North to willingly start a war.

What is most likely is that they are spreading dangerous rumours in an attempt to raise tension and wrongfoot Jonathan.

chyz:
I agree with the replacement of those army generals but how can he do that without causing trouble? Also as far as the southern groups go, at this point, the Niger Delta is at the head. Its like they are at the from tip of the arrow the East at the right tip and the West at the left. As of now the south should move with the ND heading because they are the only ones with nuts so far. also we can forget about Asari Dokub's militia group the NDPVF.

If the GOC is relegated to work in some soup kitchen in Congo or Somalia, whats anybody gonna do? Its a matter of putting the fcker on the plane and flying him straight out before he can say, "Atiku!"

Fake pictures for !diot IBB supporters.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/322973_SaharaReportersFakePicture_jpg69a0b6e4ad1c8831fa731bd73bb022d2

IBB people = Foolish people

PapaBrowne:
Nope! I actually observed they stopped getting credible news articles ever since ribadu and el rufai returned to Nigeria. Most of the credible news reports they got in the past came mainly from the contacts these guys had in abuja. Since they don't feed saharareporters with any more news, the website has become a tabloid.

True!
What can be said for a news agency that is so shameless, it can actually forge pictures of attendees of Jonathans declaration?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/322973_SaharaReportersFakePicture_jpg69a0b6e4ad1c8831fa731bd73bb022d2