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Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:00pm On Sep 19, 2010
monkeyleg:
@Beaf,

[size=33pt]You say I have very low IQ[/size], but yet you can not tell this forum why you think GJ is worthy of anyones vote. I have seen your sort on here so many times, they give you 500Naira, and you are ready to become the village .

I want to believe that you have some sort of education, if you do? I worry, if you dont, it explains a lot.
Yes! cool grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Thats why you go personal and make false claims, because you cannot marshal any logic to back up your hatred (one day the real reason will be unmasked).
Politics › Re: Whats The Difference? by Beaf: 9:56pm On Sep 19, 2010
monkeyleg:
I am glad there are still some right thinking people in our country. this is what give me hope to keepm talking and speaking to people about what really matters in our country.

I have been falsely accused of hating GJ, even when he come from ND like I do. The fact is that he belongs to a party that has contributed to the absolute wrecking of our country. i really do fail to see how he can be effective in  Party full of thieves, there is just no way, even the blind can see failure ahead, but in the interest of Nigerians, i hope and pray i am wrong, but the evidence is just too stack.
Any educated person with half a brain knows that in a democracy, you vote for the individual, not the party. Find another excuse to camouflage the hating jare. angry
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 9:52pm On Sep 19, 2010
@monkeyleg
I'm beginning to feel you have a very low IQ and few morals. But I see your head is already hanging in shame from the lies you have been telling. If you can prove your lies, then we can have a discussion, otherwise, run along.

cap28:
I have just given you two factual examples and you are still asking me to prove my words, okay, it looks like you are one of those people who have to learn things the hard way, I give this your honeymoon period with Jonathan just 6 months and I can guarantee that you will be singing a different tune - don't say i didnt warn you!
There is nothing factual about anything you've said. All you've done is make false claims. You need to be able to back your claims up, provide links and references that can stand the test. . . Or hang your head in shame.
Politics › Re: Ilorin And The Crisis Of Fulani Identity by Beaf: 9:38pm On Sep 19, 2010
MaziUche0:
I hear they have power in Guinea and Senegal. Especially in Guinea where they control the military apparatus.
Its not what you hear. Its what is.
Nigeria is the only place they have power, in all other places, they are mostly poverty stricken.
Politics › Re: Where Do These Presidential Candidates Stand On Key Issues? by Beaf: 9:33pm On Sep 19, 2010
Some expel a lot of hot air and lies about federalism (eg IBB), while Jonathan very quietly does the practical things that are required (as usual). No shaking. cool
All others are noise makers.

[size=14pt]FG budgets N1.6bn to compute states’ contribution to national economy [/size]
Friday, 17 September 2010 01:16 Onyinye Nwachukwu

The Federal Government said it has budgeted about N1.632 billion to carry out a “first ever” exercise that would enable states of the federation begin to compute their individual Gross Domestic Products (GDP) to the national economy.

The exercise, which starts almost immediately, would help the Federal Government monitor what each state is contributing to the national GDP, thus generating some form of competition among them. Shamsudeen Usman, minister of national planning commission, said on Thursday that the process would come in two phases: the first, covering the planning and pilot study while the second phase would comprise the training of enumerators and the actual field work survey.

He announced that the budgeted sum for the exercise is to be shared among the Federal Government, sub-national and the development partners in a 40:30:30 ratio, bringing their expected contributions to about N652,800,000, 489,600,000 and N489, 600, 000, respectively. GDP is the most comprehensive parameter for measuring the level of economic activity in any economy over a particular period and can be computed at the national and sub-national levels. Nigeria’s GDP, at the moment, is only computed at the national level but the minister said the disadvantage is that it does not provide information on the size of the sub-national economies that make up the overall GDP as is done in other countries like India, Ghana etc.

At the opening session of the first two-day sensitisation workshop on state GDP computation for Nigeria in Calabar, Usman said sub-national GDP computation which is relatively new globally is the most comprehensive and reliable measure of economic activity at the sub-national levels in federal economies. He said monitoring output at sub-national levels would serve as a basis for benchmarking the economies of the states and the Federal Capital Territory (FCT), as well as generate healthy competition amongst them on periodic basis, while providing disaggregated data and information for improved management of the states’ economies. The minister was optimistic that computing GDP at state level would help facilitate transparency and accountability as well as help monitor and evaluate key programmes of government.

He further told the gathering that state GDP is expected to be developed within the national framework, using standardised methodology and procedures to ensure consistency and credibility of the results, adding that the exercise is intended to draw from experiences and lessons from these countries. “Given the renewed interest in expanding the policy space at the lower levels of government of Nigeria, it has become more necessary than ever before for the Nigerian statistical system to further improve its data generation efforts, especially in the area of revenue and expenditure. It is in this context that efforts are being made by the Federal Government to commence the production of state GDP for Nigeria,” Usman said.

At the event, Slyvester Monye, secretary to the planning commission, noted that the computation exercise is expected to produce the quarterly and annual GDP series reflecting detailed characteristics of the economy at the sub-national level.
http://www.businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13599:fg-budgets-n16bn-to-compute-states-contribution-to-national-economy&catid=85:national&Itemid=340

The first step, creating reliable national statistics, has been taken with little fanfair (just as several other steps to fix the country have been taken without loud noises). Thats Jonathans style, you wake up and see it in the morning, like it was a miracle. grin
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 9:14pm On Sep 19, 2010
cap28:
Have you forgotten how his wife appropriated over 100 million naira of the bayelsa state treasury's funds?

He is not what you think he is, he is a western puppet with nothing new to offer nigerians except more looting, are you aware that he recently signed an agreement with america allowing them to deploy troops onto our soil under the fictititious pretense of securing regional security, bros, you need to wake up and stop all this psychophancy.
I asked you to prove your words. Cowards are the ones that smear good men. Prove your words or hang your head in shame forever.
Politics › Re: Ilorin And The Crisis Of Fulani Identity by Beaf: 9:08pm On Sep 19, 2010
It is funny that Nigeria is the only country where Fulani's are rich and powerful kingmakers. In all other countries, they tend to be the very poorest of the poor; the most uneducated and the most disadvantaged.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 8:25pm On Sep 19, 2010
cap28:
I really do not understand why people are jubilating over jonathan's declaration - what has he done for nigeria in the short time that he has been in power, it appears most of you have very short memories, you seem to have forgotten his disastrous tenure as Bayelsa state governor when him and his wife looted over 100 million naira from the state treasury, or doesnt it matter any longer.

Can someone please clarify for me why this man is any different from his predecessors, what is he offering nigerians, how can people be so naive as to think that this man is some kind of messiah given his devious track record as a state governor.
How about you prove each and every falsehood you laid out above?
If you think labelling a good man and unwittingly fighting IBB's dishonest battles is something to be proud off, dude you are grossly mistaken.

[size=14pt]Goodluck Nigeria![/size]
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 12:39pm On Sep 19, 2010
aikokoro: for those asking what GEJ has achieved, pls pardon my naivety. but I still wonder how come filling stations don't have queues any more. I mean some are even advertising N64/litre just to make sales. can you believe that? the funny thing is no noise from this guy. just like that fuel just full everywhere.
I really love this post. It is so simple and straight to the heart, Nigerians need a break from rough and tough life existence. That break will come with little steps like this that really touch the populace.
Most of those condemning the extinction of fuel scarcity here are so rich that the price of a litre of fuel is of no concern to them, neither have they had to queue and fight for a meagre drop. Nigerians need a break from a hard life, and its coming.

Jonathan is doing well.
Politics › Re: Zoning: Northern Elders Issue 2-week Ultimatum To Pdp by Beaf(op): 12:29pm On Sep 19, 2010
Abeg you guys leave amingafar's ethnicity out na. I believe him when he says he is from Kogi.
Politics › Re: Dispute 1 Of President Jonathan's Declaration claims- Inec Reform by Beaf: 12:18pm On Sep 19, 2010
When topics are so stretched and useless, you know that we have a President nothing negative can be pinned on. Yes, every attempt to give a dog a bad name has collapsed and failed woefully!
Desperation is an unkind word.

What next? Jonathans teeth are too small for the presidency? Or he has the wrong shoe size?

[size=49pt]Goodluck Nigeria![/size]

With that, I exit this topic. cool
Politics › Re: Nigerians Beware by Beaf: 1:33am On Sep 19, 2010
BoboYekini:
@Beaf,
how u go knw wetin dey happen for the 'real' world when na so so argue u go dey argue for Politics section?
My broda, I de happy say I no know di real world o! shocked
How pesin go take dupe me if na only so so argue I de argue for politics section? grin
Politics › Re: Nigeria, U.S. Sign Pact On Regional Security ;Africom Has Come To Naija: Smh by Beaf: 12:56am On Sep 19, 2010
chyz:
He thought it was a way to control the Niger Delta rebellion? Makes no sense at all. Would you want another country to set up a military base in your country permanently? During that term date he gave them to turn in their arms,if they resisted it he would has immediately sent out the military and wiped them completely out. Go and learn why other military countries rejected Africom.Since you don't believe the video then go read about it. Everything to you people is a conspiracy theory when it goes against anything the west says.
I never argue based on hearsay. I am not even going to provide you any link, just google these words, your foolish Yar Adua uttered them after drinking non-alcohic tea in the White House;

"We have discussed on security issues, security within Nigeria, the Niger Delta, the Gulf of Guinea and peace and security on the African continent. We shall partner  AFRICOM to assist not only Nigeria but also the African continent to actualise its peace and security initiatives. It is an initiative to have standby forces in each of the regional economic groupings in Africa,"

This is from Shell;

Clearly the Nigerian Government is planning on working with the US military in the Niger Delta – whether this will continue in a low profile advisory capacity or escalate into something more is not clear. But the US Marines / US Government are not going to carry out their own research into the region unless they are going to use the information to pursue a specific set of agendas presumably with the knowledge of the present Nigerian regime.
http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2007/06/30/africa-path-nigeria-us-marines-africom-the-niger-delta/

Start from the two pointers above, spend a week following articles, then come back. yar Adua signed a foolish document he probably hadn't read, because the damn teacher was bamboozled by the things he saw in the White House. anyways since Jonathan, the US is now more concerned about Boko Haram and Mutalabs as the main problems that can stop oil flowing. But get one thing straight, yar Adua willingly acted stup!dly and signed a dangerous treaty.

You might also like to look at what Yar Adua said when the White House tea had dissolved from his eyes; http://nm.onlinenigeria.com/templates/?a=11064&z=5

Thats your disgraceful president in the White House;

Politics › Re: Nigerians Beware by Beaf: 12:17am On Sep 19, 2010
[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=515947.msg6779084#msg6779084 date=1284851226]Her mother begged NL to delete the main thread. But you can get the idea from this two threads. Just beware, on NL you dont know who is who anymore undecided

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-510904.32.html#msg6731792
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-512798.0.html[/quote]Na wa o! I am lost for words.
Politics › Re: Nigerians Beware by Beaf: 12:04am On Sep 19, 2010
[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=515947.msg6779035#msg6779035 date=1284850235]So many fuxxing scammer on Nl. From Platinumk who scammed a NL of $14k, and this agentchris shey?
continuing ruining our names, se e ti gbo?[/quote]Enh?! shocked

So Platinumk is a scammer? Abeg post a link please. Damn!
Politics › Re: Nigerians Are Equal Oil In Niger Delta, Real State In Abuja, Business the North by Beaf: 11:54pm On Sep 18, 2010
13volts:
The brone of contention here is not limited to pollution but poverty, militancy and other issues at stake. Odili and others like him ve and wil cöntiune to divert funds meant for pollution control 2 their personal pockets, likewise youth wud aggravate d issue thr oil bunkering. The whole issue is a coin wit 2 sides. Yeye Ppl tend 2 100% direct it 2 d north or FG
Have you ever considered that pollution causes poverty? When there is no land to plant crops and all the fish are dead, then there are no jobs in the rural areas. Its simple as 2 + 2

All the issues of lawlessness and desperation are directly caused by wicked elite sipping crude with long straws all the way from the Sahara desert and not giving a damn about what the effects are. They have been the FG for 39 years of our 50.
Politics › Re: Nigerians Beware by Beaf: 11:48pm On Sep 18, 2010
This is interesting! Who is AGENTCHRIS?
Has a 419 been exposed on NL and were the police properly informed before this thread was started?
Politics › Re: Kwara State 2011 : Olusola Saraki Endorses Daughter's Gubernatorial Ambition by Beaf: 11:45pm On Sep 18, 2010
This must be the Saraki's plan for Nigeria too.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 11:31pm On Sep 18, 2010
proudly9ja:
if this is truly a IBB vs GJ battle as you claim then we don't have to wait too long do we? Both will meet at the PDP primaries sin't it?
IBB is not going to give up after the primaries. He and Atiku are already battling to take over ANPP. If they don't succeed, as Houvest says, they have already threatened serious mayhem that will shake the unity of the country. Don't be decieved, it will not end with the PDP primaries.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 11:18pm On Sep 18, 2010
^
Those arguments are all tenuous and of little impact. There's nothing saying he is corrupt or dubious in any way. They are straws.
I am very sure Fashola has a myriad financial issues in Lagos, so lets not go there.

janus05:
Let's clear sthing here. This race is not between GEJ and IBB. IBB is going nowhere. IBB's history will definitely work against him. The question here is - Can GEJ record(if there are any) make him the winner?

We are still hoping to see more people declare n decisions will b made in individual homes n hearts over time. Nigeria is TOO Large to tolerate a one horse race
The race is between GEJ and IBB. You need to get your ear closer to the ground to understand what is going on in that country.
IBB foisted Obj on us, he has always been the unseen hand in Nigeria's politics since he "stepped aside." http://www.peoplesdaily-online.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9691:my-pact-with-abacha-obasanjo-by-gen-babangida-&catid=109:cover&Itemid=181

After Obasanjo turned round and bit the hand that fed him, IBB quickly got in synch with Yar Adua's govt and restarted his evil teleguiding. IBB is the chieftain of the cabal that is why he was the person Turai (as powerful as she was) ran to; http://nationaldailyngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=630:turai-cuts-deal-with-ibb&catid=99:current-cover&Itemid=489

Yes, the battle is strictly between GEJ and IBB, between old and new. The moment IBB is defeated at the polls in 2011, is the moment Nigeria can begin breathing the air of freedom. There are no other actors in this battle.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:54pm On Sep 18, 2010
^
Yes GEJ is a saint compared to the pit of vipers that is Nigerian politics is. If you claim otherwise, prove it.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:45pm On Sep 18, 2010
^
shocked shocked shocked
@truly, I don't recall you debunking anything. You just made lots of statements which really had little connection to the argument at hand.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

ikeyman00:
BEAF

telll me what your man did when he was a governorhuh??
Just like me, you can find out for yourself if you are that interested. However, if his tenure as governor is what stops you coming over as a supporter, then you've got to tell us what it was that troubled you when he was governor of Bayelsa. Its so simple!
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:42pm On Sep 18, 2010
janus05:
Just give us a tip of the iceberg, [size=14pt]if we dont like it, We will go and drink acid or hug the transformer[/size]
Dude, you are misusing the large font. There is a certain trick to it, which you might learn in good time. cheesy
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:36pm On Sep 18, 2010
truly:
It is about PDP
And if GEJ remains in PDP, he is part of the nest of killers, garrison/do-or-die donor democracy
Yes, I agree that PDP is a rotten place to be. But then, so are all the other parties in Nigeria; its a sad reflection of the country.
We need someone with the guile and tact to fix things from within, cos political parties operate like a mafia.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:33pm On Sep 18, 2010
debosky:
With the likes of Gemade, Akala and Anyim and others supporting GEJ's campaign, this looks like more of the same to me.

Sad to see Beaf so taken with GEJ - maybe it's regional sentiment, but there's been little or nothing to show he'll  be different to what we've gotten in the past - beyond declaring on FB that is.  undecided

No rational assessment of what his achievements are - sad to know that his birthplace/tribe hold more value than what he can contribute to Nigeria.  undecided

We've heard flowing speeches before, we've heard poverty to riches stories before. . . .I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not very optimistic at the moment.
I don't know what you mean by regional sentiment. You might want to ask me why I support Jonathan, and I'll tell you, but it might take pages of discussion and very deep analysis that some folk here would find anathema.
The people you have mentioned are all PDP bigwigs, no other people were expected to be there. I don't know of any non-party member that gave a speech either.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:27pm On Sep 18, 2010
monkeyleg:
I dont know why we are even bothering ourselves, Beaf and his cohorts can not even answer simple questions like what GJ did while he was Governor of Bayelsa state, and why he thinks Gj is better than the other candidates.
Dude, I've told you if you have a complaint to make about his time in Bayelsa, then make it or exit the argument.
What is it you think Jonathan did not do correctly as governor of Bayelsa for 14 months?
If you know it, tell us and stop running around in circles, trying to give a dog a bad name.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:25pm On Sep 18, 2010
truly:
You know that the picture of GEJ you have been painting is not really true!
If we were talking about an event of some decades in the past I can understand

GJ claims that he wanted free and fair elections and gave us an INEC of credible people
FACT - He changed Iwu due to pressure
You have claimed he is civil, took a motorist who ran into him to court
FACT - this is a legacy of Yaradua's rule of law philosophy

There is a limit to propaganda
But to say that those newspaper reports debunk my assertions is a new level that Goebbels would be proud of
This is a bit like clutching at straws, because nothing above is even remotely important. The only things we remember are that GEJ has put an upright man as head of INEC and took a man who obstructed him to court, rather let his korofo's do physical justice to the man as would have been done in the past. If Yar Adua (RIP) introduced the rule of law philosophy, fine. The fact is that Jonathan practices it.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:17pm On Sep 18, 2010
janus05:
@ Beaf,

Pls sincerely tell me what you feel about someone hugging a transformer?  I noticed u were ROGL
Loosen up! It sounds really funny! And when I picture a guy actually hugging a transformer I totally crack up! grin grin grin
Politics › Re: ''Tinubu, I Am Sorry, You Are No Longer A Looter''-ribadu Implies by Beaf: 10:13pm On Sep 18, 2010
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:10pm On Sep 18, 2010
truly:
PDP - The nest of killers
An abduction of a whole governors that could have led to the man being killed was called "family affair"
            But if I run past a traffic light, it would be treated like treason
The party says a city is garrison beholden to a thug
It says winning an election is a do-or-die affair
we can go on

And I am expected to vote for somebody who has been part of that establishment since 1999?
And he is being touted as a reformer
For the love of this country - we don't need to call 1300hours in Abuja midnight
huh huh huh huh huh
Is this meant to be about Jonathan? IBB is the original thug, so you really are stretching things.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:08pm On Sep 18, 2010
truly:
Please read the thread
I debunked some false claims about Johnathan
and backed it up with evidence

And really if events of 2007 and today is antiquity
then what about events of between 1986 and 1993?

BTW don't you think we have the right to know the truth about GEJ
while we are being told daily about the ills of IBB
Both are aspirants

Anybody who wants us to vote for Johnathan must tell us the whole truth
It is not enough to tell people who raise questions to go and drink acid
Note that if he fails, some people rooting for him today may also have to drink acid

You actually have the right to put questions to IBB's people - but I am neither  Kassim Afegbua nor Dokpesi
Interesting! shocked shocked shocked shocked
What exactly did you debunk and who said it? cos I'm thinking you're "debunking" your very own assertions here.
we de wait o!
Politics › Re: Jonathan Declaration: Live Updates - ALL Pdp Govs Present, Bar Saraki by Beaf(op): 10:05pm On Sep 18, 2010
janus05:
@ Truly is drinking acid not somewhat milder than hugging a transformer? One of GEJ campaigners in another thread told someone that [size=14pt]it is GEJ or nothing, n if he doesnt like it, he can go n hug the transformer![/size]
www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

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