₦airaland Forum

yemmight:
Beaf, do you leave in Naija? I guess no.  What do you want the people of Oyo do when the Gov has bought over all the legislators.  Definitely they wont see anythin bad in him.  However, in Ogun State where legislators stood their grounds the contesting president then picked Akindani to lead his campaign team for the whole south.  If you walk on the streets of Abeokuta, Ijebu-ode and environs, nobody says anything positive about this guy.  As a President, one expects that since you have called both parties to round table for 3 consecutive days, that has become a failed state.

What we have is the failure of our political system. I have always cried out that true federalism is the only way to give every Nigerian true representation at all levels.
Today, we have the sad scenario of people being held hostage by their governors in several states (and it cuts across political parties), but the people are powerless to remove them or even sanction them.

The thing we all need to do as a first step, is ensure that each and every one of our votes count in 2011, that way we can get a better set of people into power.

mbulela:
beaf,can't you just make your points without all these childish insults?
stop trying to defend the indefensible.
the truth is that these governors are taking advantage of the situation on the lack of strong leadership at the centre.
All GEJ is concerned about at present is getting support by all means.
it does not matter whether half of Abia and Imo state are kidnapped or if a theatre of killings is unleashed in Ogun and Oyo states, as long as the governors deliver the needed votes, all is well.

If someone makes a ridiculous claim that a governor is "untouchable" by the President, I'll call it just what it is and in no uncertain terms. Why don't you have the President choose a governor for you too, instead of voting? If your governor is failing, the mechanism to eject him lies in your state. It is brain lazy Nigerians that look elsewhere for solutions to local problems. Soon you guy's will begin referring women that can't concieve to the President. . . Utterly laughable lot!

Nobody is investing in oil in the Niger Delta. There are just bloody thieves and oil bunkerers.
In any event, the whole of Abuja was paid for by oil, so whats your argument?

Gbawe:
My brother I feel for you. My Father's State Ogun (I grew up in Lagos) is also under siege. As 9ijaMan surmises , we are on our own. Alao AKala and OGD are "untouchables" in their respective States because Jonathan needs their support. If Oyo has to put up with four more years of Akala's misrule so be it. If Ogun State has to gain a stooge of OGD , who will continue the looting and misrule, so be it . It is all par for the course for project Jonathan. Jonathan's vocal fans were busy making excuses when 9ijaMan challenged his inaction over the gangsterism of Daniel in Ogun State on another thread . They had the effrontery to tell us that Jonathan has given all stakeholders 48 Hours (since last Thursday) !!! How many hours has now passed?

All these events we are direct and living witnesses to are indications that Jonathan will be "more of the same" for Nigeria. All the PDP candidates are the same . Nigerians must choose a candidate that will ensure that Nigeria will work for all of us and not an individual who can condemn the SW region to misrule and hardship so that he retains power at all cost.

How ridiculous can a grown up get? Does Jonathan now impeach governors? Doesn't your state have a House of Assembly that can do that?
If you cared enough for your state, you would be going through the right channels, instead of making odd squeaks here. Has your governor told you his state is out of his control?
Reasoning like yours is the more reason states should be merged, because even seemingly educated people have no clue about how democracies are run.

oyb:
look at this dubious liar - i quoted articles from the next you love to quote - only brain dead retard who was repeatedly dropped on his head as a baby would fail to comprehend that.

the realm of conjecture is your realm, mr liar liar with word of mouth reports on gejs 'progress' .

or are you calling next a beer palour publication

So you aren't even man enough to own up! . . .Instead, Next made up all the trash you've been spewing! 234Next made you spread beer palour rumours about other people? Wow!
We shall always witness wonders! I am sure Next told you exactly how to manufacture news and coin lies too. Na wa o!

Ok, lets assume you were reading something from the gutter which you somehow assumed (as usual) to be quality news like is supplied by Next; are you still with me? Now, the person whom the story hinges on, comes out and says, "you're all fcking liars, that story never happened!" How do you now see yourself?

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0Edward0:
link my friend

This is it; http://nigerdeltastandard.com/?p=1917

@topic

The former State Governor, Dr. Peter Odili has also denied his involvement and support for Ateke Tom. Odili who spoke through his media adviser, Mr. Emmah Okah in a telephone interview, expressed surprise over the overseas trip of Ateke Tom.
‘I am not aware, I am just hearing this for the first time. You are the one who has fed me with this information. Truly Oga does not have any knowledge about this: he said succinctly.
It was however alledged that some powerful politicians of Dr. Odili’s camp were behind the sponsorship of the medical trip of Ateke Tom abroad to save his life and the peace of Rivers State.

He is Odili's boy.

oyb:
please please please let us have debates - i really want to see how gej will perform when he doesn't have ghost writers posting on facebook

perhaps mend will be on ground to follow up on the antics of the nl campaign crew by shouting down his debaters

Poor meathead, GEJ is something like 100 times smarter than you.
Its painful, but Ribadu says you've been lying to discredit both him and Jonathan. He never had a case against Patience Jonathan; I feel like crying for you!
Some Nigerians just love their rumours and to manufacture "facts" in beer palours sha.

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monkeyleg:
So we dont have feul queues, hurray!!!. Same can be said for other governments. We must get away from the flash in the pan politics we engage ourselves in that country. Gj does not show deep understanding on how to run a country like ours, and by the way I saw you failed to respond to the reckless way he and his government have spent money since they got in.

I never understand why we always even after so long fall for cheap tricks, I guess because we are Nigerians. A people never prepared to do the right things to move our country forward.

Like which ones? The ones that made us into fuel importers? Which ones? Is it the ones that deliberately ran down our refineries?
I am waiting to learn.
Not only has GEJ cured the fuel scarcity problem, there are 3 refineries being built.

[size=14pt]Goodluck Nigeria![/size]

[quote author=na_so link=topic=515027.msg6770115#msg6770115 date=1284720594]If ribadu is contesting the presidential election and is still honourable enough to clear the air on this patience jonathan issue, then I am seriuosly considering voting for him. And I mean am.

[size=21pt]I know some self-acclaimed progressives on NL  would rather die,than say the truth especially when it stands to favour their opponent.[/size][/quote]Gbawe and oyb.

It has nothing to do with GEJ and I feel insulted by that insinuation and feel it is an irresponsible dodge. I am really shocked such has been said, we need to respect one another and not resort to wild conjecture.
I am quite sure there have been anti-Jonathan stories on the front page that I haven't complained about.

I just don't like tribalistic threads or the feeling that tribalism is being deliberately stocked. It is well known that Ojukwu is an Igbo Icon and deserves some difference, the same goes to the likes of Balewa, Enahoro, Zik etc. The names of such people cannot be dragged around on the basis of a questionable article carried by a lone questionable news source, the Compass a known tabloid paper.

A simple google search for news two days around the Sept 13 date Compass published their story on, proves that no other paper carried such news; http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jonathan+ojukwu&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-gb%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7TSEA_en&prmd=odf&sa=X&ei=WUuTTOnVDsnLswbXmLT3CQ&ved=0CBAQpwU&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A12%2F9%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A15%2F9%2F2010

Gbawe:
Premature expulsion and naiveness comes to mind when I think of the supporters of Jonathan in cyberspace. How many stories have you guys copied and pasted , before you looked at things ctritically ,  that have subsequently turned out to be innacurate ? "Aliyu dumps Jonathan" and the same Aliyu is standing next to IBB when the former head of State formally declared his Presidential ambition !!!!  "Ribadu fell out with Jonatahn" because he did not get the job he "demanded" yet a few days later the former EFCC boss denied ever "demanding" anything from Jonathan !!!!

The list goes on !!!! Give it a few days before you start jubilating wildly . Everyday you are all appearing as naive and as desperate as your candidate. Keep up the clannish seige mentality. It is what will ensure that Jonathan may not even make it beyond the PDP primaries .

You are a known starter of rumours and paster of discredited info, so please point at yourself. It is funny that you haven't found that this news is carried by more than one source.
Poor Gbawe! You can't make up lies and generate rumour on this one, you've heard it from the horses mouth, so to speak!

Shame!

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babasoty:
In 2011: Collect BABANGIDA's money, pally wit RIBADU, mock SARAKI, advise MOMODU then wish all of dem GOODLUCK.

Yeah, I like this too! Really witty!

@jakumo
You wan kill pesin wit laff?

desgiezd:
Does it now mean that the special dictionary I bought for interpreting Becomrich's brand of English would become useless?

Becomerich says he speaks "batu," not English!

9ijaMan:
I will not stoop so low as to join issues with you. I also feel it is not absolutely necessary you give comments on every issue. If someone is paying you to run after every single person (on web blogs) who stands against GEJ's candidacy, it's a pity that individual is wasting so much resources as you are not worthy a dime. When issues are being discussed, you either make reasonable contribution or you standby and be a spectator. Stop being absolutely childish!

9ijaMan:
Just to also correct your shalowness about the military history in 9ja, virtually every new changes made to military chiefs have been done with officers with lower ranks. So it's nothing new. Hardly has a service chief been replaced with the very next in line officer when a new president/head of state come into power. Go and read you history books.
Talking about tribal bigotry, you seemed to be the only person mentioning tribes. Who cares if an Igbo or Ijaw man becomes the COAS? If GEJ feels more comfy with the new COAS, I care less about his tribe or faith. The fact (which you rantings and ramblings cannot change) remains that every president in the past have always changed the service chiefs whenever they come into power.

You will not stoop low, yet you are from the gutter?
I thought you said I wasn't worth the time? But I guess the truth is so bitter, you just had come back at me again! Thats what pain does, sometimes it makes even grown men cry.

Dude, you're strangely funny, maybe even weird (but we get that with the average IBB fanboys). That is why you set politics aside to attack a mans household and family, displaying, not just poor judgement, but poor upbringing as well. For you, politics is a motor pack tout style fight in the gutter, no respect either for yourself or your opponent. Shame.

Go to your so called history (which has failed you) and tell me what civilian, from Balewa to the present has had the guts to fell 35 generals in one swoop. Of course, you can't, cos none has. All you can do is open your gutter and abuse other peoples families like an !diot.

Dude rest, your battery is dead.

oyb:
u no see rented posters for NL

Dude! We've been searching for you all over NL. Your nemesis is on this thread, please don't be a pee your pantaloons and bring your colleague, Gbawe along; https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-515027.0.html

Laf no go kill pesin sha!

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Today is just such a good day!

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IBB people = Foolish people

May he live long and suffer long.

Where are the main proponents? I guess they are now ashamed and hiding under their smelly little rocks.

Can the "Jonathan snubs Ojukwu" thread be removed from the front page? It is obviously a story that never happened and has become another tribalistic to and fro, as is to be expected.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-513509.0.html

[size=33pt]Nice!
Chai! . . .Gbawe & oyb will die of pain o!!!!![/size]

[size=64pt]Goodluck Nigeria![/size]

IBB people = Foolish people

Ribadu listed his priorities as security; effective power supply; free education; sound medical facilities; and collective leadership.

He said: "I want to immediately provide those basic things. They are so important to us. I must insist that we must have security immediately, instantly; there is no time to waste on that. I want to see that we can immediately solve the problem of power.

http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news/13500.html

I am wondering how anybody can "[size=14pt]immediately[/size]" or "[size=14pt]instantly[/size]" provide security, effective power supply, free education, sound medical facilities?
Why the wild and unfulfillable promises?

Nuhu! You de make me fear!

Ribadu listed his priorities as security; effective power supply; free education; sound medical facilities; and collective leadership.

He said: "I want to immediately provide those basic things. They are so important to us. I must insist that we must have security immediately, instantly; there is no time to waste on that. I want to see that we can immediately solve the problem of power.

I am wondering how anybody can "[size=14pt]immediately[/size]" or "[size=14pt]instantly[/size]" provide security, effective power supply, free education, sound medical facilities?
Why the wild and unfulfillable promises?

Nuhu! You de make me fear!

Ribadu listed his priorities as security; effective power supply; free education; sound medical facilities; and collective leadership.

He said: "I want to immediately provide those basic things. They are so important to us. I must insist that we must have security immediately, instantly; there is no time to waste on that. I want to see that we can immediately solve the problem of power.

http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news/13500.html

I am wondering how anybody can "[size=14pt]immediately[/size]" or "[size=14pt]instantly[/size]" provide security, effective power supply, free education, sound medical facilities?
Why the wild and unfulillable promises?

Nuhu! Alarm bells are ringing!

9ijaMan:
Firing Dambazau & the others can be done by any dumb president and does not require growing "balls". Go and read your history books to confirm. Until GEJ is able to control his wife and by extension his household, he has no business in Aso rock beyond May 29, 2011.

You sound so much like a hate filled loser. You come across so much like Tanko Yakasai or Kanti Bello, who simply hate Jonathan because they are shameless tribal bigots.
Talking stup!dly about a mans household and family shows you lack respect for yours.

There is no need saying things that are borderline foolish or outright dishonest, because you are opposed to a candidate (for whatever reason). The removal of the service chiefs and their replacement with not just a much junior officer, but one of Igbo stock, amounts to nothing short of a coup. Only kids think it is less.

He is still a thief.

Is it not Theodore Orji's govt? He is the same person that wanted to introduce sharia to Abia and was videoed at okija?
The FG needs to swing into action to get this man behind bars soonest, I am quite sure that alone would solve 70% of the kidnapping issue. The next thing is to ensure that immunity for governors is dropped, so that not only will they not behave with impunity while in office, but they will also not have the time afforded by immunity to cover their tracks.

mbulela:
you might sound educated but your arguments are never convincing and always seem all over the place.
Dude, you do not waste money buying three presidential jets in the face of more pressing problems in the country.
who complained about spending money on defence?
why can't he fly commercial airlines?
David Cameroun flies commercial, after all.
buying three jets smacks of insincerity in the present clime.
it is in the same class of sin like those barbarians in the NASS increasing their quarterly legal loot.
What institution is Jonathan building?

Cameron might fly in commercial jets, but there is a whole Airforce Squadron [/b]dedicated to him and the Royal Family - No. 32 (The Royal) Squadron; http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHousehold/Transport/Royalairtravel.aspx.
The argument that Cameron flies commercially only, is quite weak and lacking credit. In fact, it is simply beer palour talk and that just kills your whole argument.

The primary role of 32 (The Royal) Squadron's is to provide support in operational theatres for the Ministry of Defence. Any spare capacity on the aircraft is offered to the Royal Family, [b]the Prime Minister and senior Ministers. Royal flying accounts for less than 20% of the combined tasking of both the BAe 146 and the HS125.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHousehold/Transport/Royalairtravel.aspx.

History here; http://www.raf.mod.uk/organisation/32squadron.cfm

MrPrsdent:
if he is,it should also manifest in his fingers

i think he is fair-skinned naturally

I disagree. If you check his military pics, he seemed much darker and if anything, skin darkens with age.

Another one;

https://www.eyewitnessnewsng.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ibb103.jpg

mikeansy:
This man is a political matyr

he was frustrated out of Government for saying the truth.

For the very first time in its history, NNPC was made 100% auditable and the books showed a hell hole of ugliness. There were mind boggling gaps in the figures, which when reconciled, pointed at the obvious. . . The fact however, is that as much as we might deceive ourselves within Nigeria that yams and other fcknots make up 46% of our GDP, we cannot deceive oyibo. They know what money goes in and what money comes out; above all, they know that Nigeria makes 90% of her money from oil. They know that NNPC is Nigeria. If a junior minister is so loose lipped as to claim that the NNPC is broke to the tune of ground shaking amounts, what does that portend for the country?

There are huge problems to be fixed in the country and like any other country, these things can best be fixed with external investment and finance. For example, there are 3 new refineries already signed off for the whopping sum of $23billion (3.5 trillion Naira), part of which is external funding. . .
How do you keep a minister who does not understand that the packaging must be right to foreigners? Why should such a person remain a minister?

Lets not forget that his words caused a near Earthquake in Global financial circles as far as Nigeria was concerned and several high ranking enquiries were made. A minister is an ambassador, and an ambassador does not rubbish his country, there are others to clear up the mess (eg comitees and probes).

mikeansy:
IBB's crowd are rented but Jonathan's crowd are legitimate crowd that show how popular he is?

Please our politics should be more grown up than that.

Thats why Uncle Joe might be using the National Stadium, rather than Eagle Square, cos crowd "ti poju!"

I found some pics.

https://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/images/stories/Politicians/Ibrahim_Babangida_1.jpg

https://www.vanguardepaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ibb-declares21.jpg

I have been asking myself why his skin looks so patchy these days too! You will notice his cheeks are dark and blotchy, especially the right cheek.
Dude is already looking like a dead body!