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Why the new holiness? Is it because you were found quoting Elombah?

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Dude, I have given you the exact name of the suit. Google it.
The Supreme Court is the final interpreter of the constitution anything else is hot air and desperation.

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Your battery is weak. When will you begin quoting from the romance section in your wild eyed desperation?

mistakay:
this is a blatant lie.you have an old link showing 7 billion.The current link is showing us 27 billion.Unlesss the Federal Government Dispute the figures it remains the fact. The presidency will not keep mum when a major newspaper like daily trust publishes false hood,no way!

"Daily Trust," a major paper?
That laughable piece of tribalistic junk that bristles with unhidden hatred for anything from Southern Nigeria? It's best recycled as toilet paper.
That paper is the starter of every dishonest rumour. GEJ met $6billion, Daily trust manufactured $27billion.

Dude, if you want to damage your brain, keep reading Daily trust. They will fill your mind with so much crap that madness will follow.

mikeansy:
why is dawodu.com any better than elombah.com?

Seriously dude, find that out.

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Elombah?
Next thing Gbawe will begin quoting blogs and NL's romance section!

IBB people = Foolish people.

mikeansy:
Beaf

Please what section of the Nigerian constitution says the money in the excess crude account or any money whatsoever in the Federation account belongs to the State Governors and must be spent at the demand of the Governors.

Please once again let us keep it clean and respectful. I just wanna learn something new.

Are you cracking a new kind of joke? What part of the Nigerian constitution mentions the excess crude account?
It it an ad hoc arrangement. Before arguing, you should be conversant with what the Revenue Formula says. [size=14pt]In fact, a Supreme Court verdict in April 2002 on the "Resources Control Suit" nullified any provisions for Special Funds in any type of Revenue Allocation formula. Therefore Excess Crude Account is illegal.[/size]
http://www.dawodu.com/aluko19.htm

IBB people = Foolish people.

[quote author=OYB_MEND link=topic=508939.msg6699235#msg6699235 date=1283640006]Gbawe
Oyb
BigB1

Please be the first to share your experiences of BEAF's madness and lies!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]What a pathetic bunch of losers!
How cheap can you get?

IBB people = Foolish people.

ferari90:
I have always known that this unrepentant liar called SUYA , Beaf or Beans is a product of a gang despoil

if not how do you explain his numerous gaffe and Militant way of addressing issues.
The fact is JONATHAN had a certain amount of money in his custody and he blew it away
thinking it will help his ill conceived political ambition.
I don't care if the Governors gave him his complete cut(Obj and anenih style) or not
my point is [size=14pt]why go gaga over $12b[/size] when about $27B was blown away withing a very short period of time.

I am begining to think that criminals and condemned  beings like  the late S Gorge was one of the gang
members that contributed the spermatozoa that brought you(Beaf) into existence.

, Anu Nketa like you,

Dimwit.

What a pathetic clown. You can hide behind a foul mouth, the fact is that your boss is a desperate thief and murderer who will lose the next elections.
Governors demanded money that was legally theirs, but [size=33pt]IBB stole $12.4billion![/size]
Do you still want to know the difference?

IBB people = Foolish people.

Gbawe:
Indeed . Mikeansy has done a good job showing that Jonathan will always play politics rather than do what is best for Nigeria. His capitulation to the Governors , when he knows they are blatantly looking for retirement funds (outgoing Governors) and campaign funds (Governors seeking re-election) , is an example of a leader , as you surmised , who will always be easily blackmailed to act against the best interest of Nigeria because most Politician have identified his desperate need to buy support and "endorsement" . Now that the Governors are showing "chop your dollar " deviousness (i.e collecting bribe and yet failing to support Jonathan) , as I predicted many Politicians would be doing , Mr.President want's to hound them with the EFCC !!!

This is logical mayhem!
The above is the definition of a contradicting spaghetti. In the very same breadth, you are saying he is easily blackmailed, while at the very same time, he is blackmailing people with EFCC! Damn!

IBB people = Foolish people.

let the governors face EFCC, they demanded their right and got it. Now, lets know what they did with the money. The only people scared of EFCC are the thieves. 27 billa, nobi moi moi, it was given to enhance accelerated development, but thank God EFCC can disqualify criminals from reelection. Some of these dudes might be cooling off as early as January.

^Obj isn't involved. His ex-staff thats been roped in, named someone else on whose behalf he acted.

All past military dictators should be banned. It is a serious crime to forcefully appropriate the powers of state, as well as being theft it also amounts to kidnapping every single Nigerian citizen. Coup plotters should be jailed and the key thrown away, it is a very serious crime.

ferari90:
And docile people still rant about a meagre

$12B oil wind fall

Your brains must have leaked through your ears!
That money was demanded by the governors to develop their states.
Any governor that can't account for the money is facing EFCC; the same as IBB will soon do, since he cannot account for our $12.4billion oil windfall.

[quote author=Akin-Egba link=topic=508578.msg6699960#msg6699960 date=1283659074]Beaf, does that make Jonathan an Ibo? As for Ohaneze ndibo, they are a bunch of impostors. Apologies to good Ibos out there[/quote]I don't know, I just quoted the page. Ohaneze definitely identifies him as Igbo though, its possible his people migrated or there's some other link. This is the intro to the page;

DISTINGUISHED SONS/DAUGHTERS:

Please see below a list of sons and daughters of Ndigbo who have distinguished themselves in various fields of life and endeavors. In most cases, they have been the first in their profesional careers, they are:

http://www.ohanaeze.org/5.html

mistakay:
Can EFCC come near a sitting governor.All they can do here is arrest few chairmen and commissioners (villagers) and release them in 2 weeks thats all.Obasanjo tried that with the 3rd term didnt work! It will never work.

By the time EFCC arrests the whole govt, the governor will be too busy doing his own typing to get up to mischief.
Some bones are just to big to swallow (eg 27 billa)!

Good ol' EFCC can also disqualfy candidates from contesting, so by January, they might be cooling off in Gashua.

IBB people = Foolish people.

Ohaneze's site does mention Goodluck Jonathan as a distinguished son(needs to be updated tho, cos it still says Vice President).
http://www.ohanaeze.org/5.html

The page seems to have been last updated at least, one year ago.

mistakay:
So just because the Governors say is illegal so he should start sharing money.Even if its illegal why cant they go to a court of law and seek redress.They would have done that long ago if they believe there is a chance of success.They know he is weak thats why they asked ! The man GEJ is no leader!!

What a silly argument! This is a simple case of "koni man die, koni man bury am!"
Its a case of people being clever by half, now their "cleverness" is their undoing. Let EFCC hammer their sorry arses until they cough up the money jare! Hidiots!
Jonathan will be rolling on the floor laughing, see the people that were threatening fire and brimstone during the Yar Adua saga now quaking like babies at the name, "EFFCC."

Nollywood directors bera start making a new movie.

mistakay:
The block head that you are! who cares if its foreign or home reserve cant you see the issue here.The man just wasted 27 Billion dollars,it doesnt matter as well if account is legal or illegal ! With regards to Efcc i believe it should have been first come first serve Dame Patience Good luck was caught stealing red handed first! what do you say to that? eediot.

Dunce, don't you know how to read? I have already shown you with my first post, that keeping that money from the governors would have been illegal, because Nigeria has a revenue sharing formula which does not recognise that money. So the governors made a fuss and demanded it; they got it; but, now they've got some wickedly heavy stones on their necks and they are crying to the press about EFCC, as if press men will save them. LOLZ!!!

Your governor was foolish enough to demand the money. So, let EFFC track down his dumb arse; it was sweet when they were demanding.
As they say, "cheap article de run bele!"

IBB people are foolish people sha.

One day laf go kill pesin for dis NL sha!

IBB people are a pack of damn illiterates! The foreign reserves stand at $39 billion.
The Excess Crude Oil Account (ECA) is very different from our foreign reserves. Gedit?

The Excess Crude Oil Account (ECA) is not governed by any law. It is effect, an illegal account. The governors demanded it because they were well whithin their rights to do so, afterall, Nigeria has a revenue sharing formula enshrined in law. The governors demanded it and got it, now EFCC is after their arses to find out what they did with all that dosh. QED.

No to mergers

Aside from those efforts, two main opposition parties, the Action Congress and the CPC founded by MrMr. Buhari, began merger talks months ago to prosecute the 2011 elections against the PDP. Although several meetings were held, no concrete decision was reached, apparently because of the individual ambitions of Messrs Buhari and Atiku (who was then still in the AC) to rule Nigeria next year.

The AC, which was last month re-christened Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) after merging with other parties, insisted on producing the presidential candidate, saying it was coming into the political marriage as a senior partner, since it has two governors - Edo and Lagos. AC spokesperson, Lai Mohammed, confirmed this.

The party’s resolve might not be divorced from reported moves to field the former chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), Nuhu Ribadu, as its candidate. The calculation is that MrMr. Ribadu will run with the Edo State governor, Adams Oshiomhole. Mr Oshiomhole has since denied eyeing the vice presidential slot of the party.

The CPC, through its spokesperson, Dennis Aghanya, said MrMr. Buhari is the only person with the integrity needed to secure victory in the forthcoming election. NEXT hasNEXT gatheredhas gathered that the possible breakdown of the talks forced Mr. Buhari to initiate the coalition with 35 other parties, which has now adopted the name CNN.

The same AC also discussed with a faction of the Democratic Peoples Party (DPP) led by Mr Bafarawa and former FCT Minister, Jeremiah Useni. The talks could be said to be the only successful ones following the admission of the DPP into the ACN. The logo of the new party has four colours, with the inclusion of green to reflect DPP interests.

Even so, reports say the alliance might break down, as the DPP has refused to collapse its structure into ACN as did former Abia State governor, Orji Uzor Kalu, who recently collapsed the entire Progressive Peoples Alliance (PPA) into the PDP.

Convulsion in ANPP

Regrettably, the ANNP, perceived as the main opposition, has so far not identified with any merger talks ahead of the elections. Like in the previous elections, the party is opting to go it alone. Its leaders believe it has the numerical strength and resources to do so and are not known to have discussed partnerships with any of the about 60 opposition parties in the country. In the 2003 and 2007 elections, the ANPP fielded candidates but could not beat its own record in the 1999 elections, when it joined with the AD.

The possibility of the ANPP giving the PDP a good fight is dimming by the day. As at today, the party is bedevilled with crippling internal crisis. Two weeks ago, some of its members organised a parallel national executive committee meeting during which they dissolved the National Working Committee led by Edwin Ume-Ezeoke.

Mr Ume-Ezeoke, however, stepped down as chairman last Thursday to pave way for a nine-member Transition Management Committee to run the ANPP until its national convention on September 17. Analysts believe the setting up of the management committee will not change the situation in the party. The members who sacked the Ume-Ezeoke leadership, many of whom were subsequently suspended, are still aggrieved and have vowed to fight on. The creation of the transition committee, to them, is the brainchild of the Borno State governor, Ali Modu Sheriff, who is battling for the soul of the party with the Kano State governor, Ibrahim Shekarau.

Mr Sheriff is said to be opposed to Mr Shekarau’s presidential ambition. He shunned the ceremony where the Kano governor declared his ambition in Abuja last month.

Sources say the Borno governor has assured President Jonathan that he would use the ANPP structure to back him if he decides to contest. We learnt that Mr. Sheriff did not only nominate his sister-in-law as minister of state for finance, but extracted a promise from President Jonathan to support his quest that his chosen candidate win the state gubernatorial race on the platform of the ANPP. The governor is said to be preparing his younger brother to take over from him.

Yet, some members of the ANPP are said to be rooting for the former military ruler , Ibrahim Babangida, as its presidential candidate in the event that he does not get the PDP ticket.

What may equally frustrate the CNN project is that some of the opposition parties are already positioning themselves to support Mr. Jonathan anytime he declares his interest to run. Leaders of some of the parties that met recently to provide a more formidable opposition to the PDP have little faith in the alliance. They easily recall the failure of such efforts in 2007, and in the Second Republic when the progressives came together to fight the defunct National Party of Nigeria (NPN).

Moshood Erubami, the national coordinator of the Transition Monitoring Group (TMG), a pro-democracy group, says an alliance of opposition groups suggests that they have made themselves inferior to the PDP.

“It is unfortunate that despite the higher stakes that will be set by coming elections, opposition parties are yet to assume a voice of redemption,” Mr. Erubami said last Friday. “The time available is unfortunately not being utilised to step up issues-based campaigns. This is a sign that the ruling party has captured their voice and entangled their legs to remain in the Second Eleven team.” The activist said the only way change could come in our country is if voters rise up, rather than leave the fight to the opposition.

“The decision on who wins in the coming dispensation relies on the new resolve of Nigeria to checkmate rigging and manipulations in elections,” he said. “The second point is the personality being put forward, regardless of the strength and number of coalition members. What will win the election will be their ideology/orientation and the antecedents of the leaders.” General Secretary of the Alliance for Credible Elections (ACE), Emma Ezeazu, argues that the CNN might not make the expected impact if main opposition parties such as the ACN and ANPP are not members.

Mr. Ezeazu, however, said it is immaterial to his group which party wins the elections, provided the votes of Nigerians are allowed to determine their victories.

“It doesn’t matter to us who wins, whether the opposition or the PDP. It is a secondary to us. What we want is that the people’s votes should count,” he said.

Balarabe Musa, the national chairman of the Conference of the Political Parties, a group of opposition parties in the country, is still optimistic that the CNN will work.

“We have been having opposition to the PDP because of their bankruptcy right from the beginning; but that opposition has now taken on greater and credible dimensions because among us there are political parties, beside members, that have records of winning elections,” he said. “If we had signed contractual democratic alliance, in 2011 and 2007, PDP would not have been able to do what they did. And this will definitely reduce PDP to a nonentity and will give us a good chance.”

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5614777-146/opposition_in_disarray___.csp

[size=14pt]Opposition in disarray[/size]
By Festus Owete
September 5, 2010 01:23AM

Building political alliances in Nigeria is something of a gamble. The permutations like a kaleidoscope keep changing. Even as Charles Agadaenyi Nwodo, the national chairman of the Coalition for a New Nigeria (CNN), sat during the group’s meeting in Abuja last Wednesday, he was worrying about the absence of leaders of some of the parties expected at the parley, where final decisions on strategies aimed at wresting power from the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) in 2011, were to be adopted. He was not quite sure who would turn up and who would have changed their minds.

Mr Nwodo, who is also the national chairman of the Progressive Action Congress (PAC), was seen consulting with some of his aides, as he worked his mobile phone to ensure the attendance got a boost. His face soon brightened up when he discovered, midway into the parley, held at the national secretariat of the Labour Party (LP), that about 22 of the expected 35 opposition parties had sent in representatives.

The meeting was the 11th such in the last five months and there is no guarantee that the process is complete or that agreements will survive beyond the next gathering even though the end of the meeting saw the parties resolving to work to dislodge the PDP from power in the forthcoming polls. According to a communiqué approved by 11 of the parties, which was signed by MrMr. Nwodo as CNN chairman and Yunusa Tanko of the National Conscience Party (NCP) as secretary, the coalition agreed to present and support a common presidential candidate, as well as gubernatorial and legislative candidates in the states, depending on their areas of strength.

“The coalition believes it is on a rescue mission to save Nigeria from imminent collapse as a nation and to salvage its image at home and abroad,” the communiqué announced. “We are not unmindful of the enormity of the task ahead, hence, we solicit the support, cooperation and collaboration of all well-meaning Nigerians.

“In all we do, the focal point remains to rescue the common man from serial exploitation and save our country from the drift to anarchy and totalitarianism as callously exhibited by the PDP administration in the last 11 years.”

How will it work? Where any of the parties have visible electoral dominance or comparative advantage, the other members of the alliance will collectively support the candidate of that party. To forestall rigging by the PDP, the CNN will have 22 or 35 agents (if the other parties eventually sign the pact) at each polling booth to protect each other’s candidates, as against one from the PDP. The Electoral Act requires each party to present one agent for each polling station.

Several coalitions

But the coalition is just one of the several attempts to galvanise the opposition to resist and upstage the PDP at the next polls. Sometime in 2008, some groups, under the aegis of the Mega Summit Movement (MSM) met in Lagos to discuss the creation of a formidable platform to challenge the PDP.

In one of its meetings early this year, about 56 political leaders, notably of the progressive bent, were in attendance. They included: Anthony Enahoro, Olu Falae, Balarabe Musa, Bala Takaya, former Senator Sulaimon Salawu, Rasheed Shitta-Bey, Dubem Onyia, Mohammed Ali Ndume, Dapo Sarumi, Almajeri Geidam, Supo Shonibare, Pat Utomi, Sam Ewang, Adegbenga Kaka and Robson Momoh.

Others who reportedly identified with the movement’s dream are former military head of state, Muhammadu Buhari; former vice president Atiku Abubakar; former Sokoto State governor, Attahiru Bafarawa; S.O.Z Ejiofor, Ahmed Yusuf, Lateef Jakande, Ayo Adebanjo, Audu Ogbeh, Balarabe Musa, Emeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu and Lawal Kaita.

Also included are: Tunji Braithwaite, Mike Ahamba, Clement Ebri, Sule Hamma, Victor Umeh of All Progressive Grand Alliance (APGA), Mojisoluwa Akinfenwa, Usman Bugaje, Tom Ikimi, John Nwodo, Alabo Graham Douglas, Femi Okurounmu, Arthur Nwakwo, Dauda Birma, Abiola Ajimobi.

Although some of them, including Messrs Buhari and Atiku, later joined the Congress for Progressive Change and the PDP, respectively, the movement has since floated a party called the Social Democratic Mega Party (SDMP), which only last Thursday got its approval as a registered party from the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC). The party has Pat Utomi as protem chairman.

Wale Okuniyi, the protem national organising secretary of the mega party said last Friday that it does not belong to the CNN. He, however, insisted that the movement is still on course and will meet at Mr. Enahoro’s home in Benin on September 23.

Incidentally, Mr. Enahoro’s group has itself adopted Goodluck Jonathan as its presidential candidate.

“We are part of another initiative set up by progressive leaders of thought,” Mr Okuniyi said.

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5614777-146/opposition_in_disarray___.csp

Continued

Only criminals are scared of EFCC and it is the criminals that are making the loud noises now just before EFCC knocks on their door.
Time to lock 'em up!!

. . .Discredited dudes, I'm still waiting.

[quote author=OYB_MEND link=topic=508543.msg6699441#msg6699441 date=1283643409]kpele!!!!

like Gbawe said, I love my mum and have respect for all mothers and will not return the motherly abuse because I consider that the behaviour of gutter thugs with no home training.[/quote]This is getting very funny!

[size=33pt]I challenge you to show me the lie.[/size]

What a bunch of IBB loving scumbags! Jonathan for 2011! Now you can have nightmares.

[quote author=OYB_MEND link=topic=508543.msg6699402#msg6699402 date=1283642781]right I see whats going on. You don't even know when you lie?

Perhaps it is second nature?[/quote]Back up the claims you make, so your mum won't weep at the waste that you are (like Gbawe's). I challenge you to point out the lie, it is simple; this thread is not very long.
If you cannot do that, I will always see you as gutter scum.

I have a physics text book which talks about the boundaries of science in the preface. As far as the book is concerned, there are no boundaries to science, it can explain all except things like, "is there God?"
That in my opinion is a statement of real honesty.

On the other, there are the "scientist" and religious folk who claim to have the explanation of life and creation locked down to the last dot. . . But when you ask that lot, certain questions, they begin to stumble over their tongues. Take the question of life for example; neither science nor religion can define life with any logic, so how can either of these schools talk about creation which is an even deeper question?

In my opinion, it is honest to just say, "I don't know."

Gbawe:
Wow . I really must have upset you. You want a tissue or something? My man , you were caught out lying . Simple.

By the way , you really need to see someone about your obssesion with IBB. In your head you may think Nigeria is full of 149 million IBB's (of course minus your virtuous Jonathan) but commonsense means that you , as usual , are deluded . Calling everything and everyone an IBB supporter may ease your pain temporarily but it won't ease your dissapointment if neither IBB or Jonathan is President in 2011.

What a funny guy! Please point out where and how I was caught lying, or forever have the "liar" attached to your name. It is a challenge.
Until then, I can happily call you lying gutter scum.
I call you an IBB supporter, because that is what you are. What pro-IBB thing don't you support? Dude, you're a clown.

Gbawe:
Everyone can see , with your foul-mouthed areaboy tirade , that you are probably losing sleep, civility and a sense of equity and decorum just like GEJ    . Abi you be the facebook President on Nairaland? You don finally snap because you now realise you are faced with "mission impossible" ?  Abeg leave my mama out of this. She is a wonderful lady , like many Nigerian mothers .  As someone brought up with civility and good manners , I know that Parents are off limit. I have no intentions of engagaing you in any fishwife face-off.

I am a tad too classy for that.  As I recognise the intrinsic 'agbero' in your nature you cannot suppress , I forgive you in advance for any future insults .

So classy people [size=21pt]lie[/size] where you come from? You lie so easily, but I'm not shocked when IBB is your hero.
I find it extremly offensive when anybody bears false witness against me. For you, lying seems natural, so I group you as low life scum, like a mistake spat out from the gutter.

You were the first to abuse me, so better stand and take it. Coward.

[quote author=OYB_MEND link=topic=508543.msg6699153#msg6699153 date=1283639013]men shame no dey for Beaf eye again.

Na waoh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]Now Yar Adua cabal supporters arrive!
I'm sure you guy's think NLer's have forgotten, but it was just 3 short months ago.

Sorry, IBB's time is up.

This is a grown mans browser (mikeansy)!
I wonder if there is an alarm bell attached to it, to ring at the mention of "Jonathan." Fcking IBB goons.

Gbawe:
Beaf caught out lying (again) !!! What a surprise  Well don Mikeansy . The dude is shameless. Despite how you have proven beyond doubt that he is a hypocrite well versed in double standards , that pungently, permeates his writing , Mr. Beaf isstill arguing obdurately. Krendo warned him to stop digging deeper but nooooooooo !!! Beaf always has to be humiliated before he slinks away with his tail between his legs

[size=14pt]Another low quality rant from one of IBB's dishonest fools. Your mother must be weeping wretchedly at the waste you are.
Dishonesty is not far from you. . . IBB supporters policy; "when defeated, start lying![/size]

www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

mikeansy:
How does that explain the fact that a topic that has to do with CPC liaising with 35 other parties saw you talking about NNPC and whether Buhari stole $2.8 billion dollar from NNPC? Are those two related in any form?

In the light of this revelation do you have the moral right to lecture anyone else on sticking to the topic?

Yes, I do . If you have pains about the other topic, go there and drop them there, this topic is titled, "El-rufai To Be President Goodluck Jonathan's Campaign Director?"
Your fellow traveller, Gbawe has just posted some stuff which I do not agree with, but nevertheless, is in synch with the topic. Lets all do the same.

mikeansy:
I have demonstrated that you have not always stuck to the topic and so lack the moral right to demand that from me.

How does accusing Buhari of stealing $2.8b dollars from NNPC add anything to the topic about CPC liaising with 35 other parties?

Lets practice what we preach and not be hypocritical.

My brother, that is the difference between me and you. Go back and check what I posted thoroughly and you will find that I did not accuse Buhari; but maybe you are just twisting facts sha.

Now lets stick to topic, its not hard. Thank you.