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jabbok:
For ousting Ogbulafor, GEJ has chosen to play dirty. What was Ogbulafor's crime? He stood resolutely for zoning. GEJ campaign is becoming quite interesting, dirty if u like

This is funny.

@topic
It is rather dumb to bring up a crisis that caused the loss of millions of lives as some far fetched reason to gather votes. People need to be schooled about such rotten behaviour.

He is going to be in jail for a very looooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time!
What does he need lawyers for when he's going to die in jail? The poor fool will never taste puzzy!

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=512486.msg6749072#msg6749072 date=1284429563]Metalgong??!! You can laugh? I'm honoured, for real

Oya, everybody confess, who else laughed [/quote]The bolded is what made me laugh. For real, it is hard to picture MetalGong laughing!

@MetalGong
You de deh?

Dede1:
I have followed most of your arguments on this board and it will be proper if you maintain your judicious approach to the issues and stay away from unwarranted sentiments surrounding GEJ.

I am sure you are not Ijo and probably be an Urhobo or Isoko. The statement about your people being invaded by Biafra or Nigeria is utterly disingenuous. The last time I checked though, there was no country beside Nigeria and Biafra that existed in the former Royal Niger Protectorates. It is very misleading to write that your people, whom I guess, were Nigerians yet invaded by Nigerian army with commanders drawn from Urhobo or Isoko.

Biafra fought Nigeria for what also belonged to the former while Nigeria was fighting to keep its belongings intact.

If you say Biafra never invaded the Midwest, then what was Col Banjo shelling GRA Benin for? If you say the federal govt never invaded the Midwest, what was the murderer, Adekunle doing in Warri, Sapele, Ughelli etc?
What one must realise, is that there were wrongs on all sides of the war, I am not talking about the reason for the war here, but its prosecution.

And you guessed right that I am not Ijaw. There was never any agreement on what side we should side with; the govt never bothered to ask us, same as Biafra; rather we were the unwitting theatre of battle, running from pillar to post when each army approached or withdrew. With the direct experience my family had of the war, it becomes especially painful when people just open their mouths and relate histories that never occurred, maybe MetalGong4 can give precise ways of how we "betrayed" Biafra which we didn't even have a clue about.

MetalGong4:
Plain gibberish . . . lol
You just sounded like the senile Edwin Clark!!! . . . . Please come again with a witty reply.

Witty reply? You're really funny and strange. You better free yourself from the habit of making up history, otherwise you'll keep getting it in your fcking eye.
I have said it so many times on NL that when Biafra invaded, my very own father was among their targets for execution, then when the federal troops came along he was saved from execution round two by his driver. Why that madness? Because we are minorities whose lives don't matter that every fcking basta'rd thinks they can run roughshod. It is the very same idiocy that drives you.

When I talk about SS, it is with first hand knowledge, cos I am from one of those old well respected families; I've known the kids of top shots from your area, Hausa-Fulani, Yoruba etc; while you are just some skunk making up history in some rat hole.

MetalGong4:
Thats one of the reasons you guys are treacherous . To an average Niger-Deltan and the ilks of Edwin clark, truncating agreement and trust which has been in place since 1999 is the way to go. . . . Igbos are still aware of the Biafran and post Biafran antecedents of their so called Southern brothers; hence, no amount of blackmail will work this time around.

Sadly, you are talking crap again. 

What part did people from my area play in the war apart from getting invaded by both Biafra and the federal govt? People like you simply sit down, conjure up history and talk absolute bullocks.
Your micro brain broadcasts the falsehood that every SS ethnic group is the same and they somehow betrayed Biafra, cos the only way tribalistic fools like you can exist is by manufacturing history. The Nazi's polished the tricks of false history, and by studying them, we know where to look even before you turn the next ugly corner.

Who had an agreement with you? Neither Biafra nor Nigeria invited us to any meetings before both invading us, but now you sit down there pissing through your mouth, cos your brain is all the way up your arse.

Dude, walk into a bin and close the lid!

MetalGong4:
I think you are the one blathering away your energy trying to brush up the dismal record of Jonathan, and the treacherous history of SouthSouth peeps . . . . .

Did you watch a new comedy on TV?
So SS people are treacherous, but you who is attempting to sell your people for a loaf of bread are not? Na wa o!

Please mods, I am wondering why my signature has been tampered with a couple of times; first it was disabled, then removed.
Is it breaking any forum rules? If so which?

davidif:
look at this. when are we going to start having our own intel and sun [sun microsystems]? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11280200

It begins with efforts like this; http://afrosciencecommunity.com/
Go take a look.

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. . .Talking rubbish at random!
E be like say MetalGong4 don collect pay from IBB!

For some reason, I keep feeling ferari90 = MetalDung4

IBB people = Foolish people.

gadogado:
Actually, the SE insisted on zoning, they first brought the matter up in the constitutional conference of 1994. The SE insisted and demanded that zoning be put in the Nigerian constitution. Abacha liked the Idea and promised to adopt it, he died, abdulsalami came in and discarded the idea of "constitutionalizing" it. However the party's agreement is between North and South as far as the presidents office is concerned. And everybody knows IBB's father is from Kano and mother from Zamfara. Well northerners know this, he's hausa/fulani not nupe or gwarri. Thats besides the point though. The idea of zoning is if the president is from a certain area, then other important positions in the legislature and beyond should be spread out to ensure equitable distribution of power. You know how they say in the west "the spirit of the constitution" this is exactly what you guys are missing "the spirit of the agreement" meaning the common sense and goodwill of the agreement. Hausas will feel betrayed if Goodluck stays in a northern slot.

So let me ask you this, if IBB withdraws, will you support a candidate from NW and agree Jonathan should not run under the PDP platform?? PLEASE answer this. LOOK at the PDP agreement, all those privy to the agreement will tell you that what was agreed was north-south. They tried to say that OBJ should hand over to SE but they quickly reminded him of the AGREEMENT (north-south)

100% tosh!

What if PDP disintegrates, would that too be binding on the country in your eyes?
To every other person but you, Nigeria is superior to PDP and its weird arrangements for the benefit of Hausa-Fulani ex-generals; so if the Hausa's feel betrayed, tough! The whole of Nigeria that they have milked feels betrayed and has felt so for decades. Tough!

9ijaMan:
As if he were God. GEJ does not have 10% of the influence you are ascribing to him. That's the simple explanation to his delayed pronouncement. He does not have the clout OBJ had. Besides OBJ's managed to have the so called clout during his second term in office and not 9 months of presidency. You should also remember that despite all of Obj's clout and influence, he failed to actualize his thrid term bid. Obj was stopped by the north. GEJ will also be stopped by the north.

Obj's clout came in his second term? But Jonathan in 4 months as President, has just carried out the sort of military reshuffle that is remniscent of a military coup. . . And you still think he has no clout?
He surely isn't God, but clout? He's got that in abundance and uses it in ways you least expect. There is no "North" to stop Jonathan, it has been splintered by the evil Jos massacres and its now every man for himself. Even if there was unity, Jonathan still writes the script, he is the head of the PDP in case you are forgetting.

I'll be waiting here to laugh.

[quote author=MR Money £ link=topic=512852.msg6747931#msg6747931 date=1284408487]@ Beaf,
You know If that pastor tried that in Glasgow he too will be jailed for real,  Some of these gals also allowed that thing to happen them  pretending as if
they were forced into it, they are the causative agent [/quote]Exactly!
All I am saying is, you cannot blame the girl if she claims she was taken advantage of. If a woman says no and the man continues to apply pressure, it becomes ra'pe; there are no two ways about it.

For instance, if a babe wears a short skirt and exposes her panties, it is no reason for a man to lose control and ra'pe her, simply because he is stronger; if the woman reports the incident, that man would deserve his jail term. In the reverse, women are very quick to notice the size of a man's crotch through his trousers, but they don't jump on us, perhaps, because they are weaker (though I really doubt any man would report ra'pe).

When a woman claims ra'pe after intercourse, 99% of the time she is correct.

[quote author=MR Money £ link=topic=512852.msg6747417#msg6747417 date=1284402855]I cant answer that question ooooo, I remember during my university days in 9ja those girls will say to you no,no, no, no, until the no, no, no, no, fades away in the process, all still na DEVIL, DEVIL DON DIE OOOOOO [/quote]If you attempt that in Glasgow where you now are, bros you will see jail.
If a woman says no, leave her alone, except you can prove that she really meant, "carry on sir!"

[size=21pt]Spineless IBB is the one who is backing out.[/size]

Ibime:
All this one na talk. Who asked you about Afro-Asiatic, Sudanese and Bantu?

The North deliberately insisted on zoning, not rotation. ZOning allowed them to specifically pick between Yoruba, Igo and Niger-Delta depending on who is pissed off with the Hausa-Fulani at the time.

Preach bro!

[size=14pt]IBB panics, seeking soft way out, GSG [/size]

The recent outcry by the Director General of the IBB Campaign organization , Chief Rymond Dokpesi on spurious allegation of threat to life has been described as mere fea and a deliberate ploy meant to provide soft landing for the eventual withdrawal of the former military dictator from the Presidential race.

Goodluck Support Group (GSG), the main stream organization supporting President Goodluck Jonathan for Presidency, in a statement in Ibadan yesterday maintained that the outburst was an indication that the presidential aspirant in his characteristic manner has panicked having seen defeat staring him on the face.

The statement noted such inconsistency and cowardice behavious which have become the trade mark of the annular of the best elections so far in Nigeria could only be the reason why a veteran campaign coordinator working for a retired General and former Commander in Chief of the Nigerian Armed Forces of Nigeria to be whipping such incongruous sentiments based on unsubstantiated and unconfirmed threats by faceless people.

The Goodluck goup recalled that the former Military Ruler who is simply afraid of total de mystification” had in 1994 failed to commence the publication of The Heritage Newspapers after he had acquired the most sophisticated machines in the world and engaged the best of hands in the newspaper industry at that time. In spite of huge preparations for the publication meant to pave way for his return to the presidency after his infamous ‘step aside’ of August 27, 19993, the paper with its headquarters in Wuse Zone 3, Abuja, never saw the light of the day.

“Also after series of postponements on the return of the country to civilian rule , General Babangida even lost faith in God when he disobeyed his “ In sha Allah I will hand over in 1993 “ which he never did for reason he admitted later to be spinelessness.

“And in the present political dispensation, General Babangida after throttling the entire country and even contacts with his foreign supporters backed out at the last minutes in 2003 and 2007 presidential elections.

The Goodluck group, in the statement signed by the Coordinator and Publicity of its Oyo State chapter, Mr. Dare Adeleke and Alhaji Kehinde Olaosebikan respectively. said that it was not surprised but amused at the tissues of lies wrapped up in unconvincing sentiments and name calling” by the business and media icon over what has been aptly described as baseless allegations.

It therefore called on Nigerians not to be moved or deceived by the sentiments and claims contained in the statement made by chief Dokpesi but to continue “ giving their total support to the true friend of democracy and a man of peace who has shown enough capacity, educational qualification, experience and God’s gift to genuinely move the country forward. President Goodluck Jonathan is honest, calm , cool and collected. he is the best for the country.

http://www.pointblanknews.com/News/os3876.html

Dokpesi and and IBB are such shameless liars, it beggers belief!

[size=14pt]MEND denies allegations of issuing threats against Dokpesi[/size]

Abuja, Sept 13 (PTI) A militant group in Nigeria has dismissed allegations that the outfit has issued threats against a top official linked to former military dictator General Ibrahim Bagangida ahead of the key Presidential elections early next year.

The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND), which is fighting for resource control in the oil rich region, has denied allegations that it is against Bagangida''s campaign chief Raymond Dokpesi.

In their first statement associated with the oil rich country''s elections scheduled for January, MEND said, "The group is apolitical and our focus remains fighting the injustice in the Niger Delta. Chief Dokpesi may be misinformed into believing that statements from an association of miscreants calling itself the Joint Revolutionary Council (JRC) with false claims of affiliation with MEND is true."
A factional militant group, JRC had issued a statement last week declaring Dokpesi a persona non grata in the Niger Delta region where the media mogul hails from.

Dokpesi, the chairman of Africa Independent Television (AIT), said his family received kidnap threats last Friday.

Nigeria recently published the time-table for elections and two notable candidates, former military dictator Babangida and former vice president Abubakar Atiku have expressed their interest to contest for presidency.

President Goodluck Jonathan has not yet said if he would run for the seat but campaign organisations have already set up offices and websites with his name.

Nigeria, Africa''s most populous country with a population of 150 million returned to democracy in 1999 after several years of military intervention.

Since then, presidential elections which are conducted every four years have been won by the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).

Though opposition parties challenged the victories, the courts always rule in favour of PDP citing lack of evidence to prove the elections were rigged.

http://news.in.msn.com/international/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4376287

excanny:
I hope you are not alluding to the fact that Ndigbo will help you to initiative it, since you made this point immediately after talking about Ndigbo.

Ndigbo gave you the chance to liberate yourselves from this cesspit, but your people refused. Now if you want a disintegration, let your SS people start it.

If you are talking about groups you had agreements with fine, but in my area of the SS we were first invaded by Biafra and then re-invaded by Federal troops. Nobody ever asked what we wanted or even called us to a single meeting. This crap of giving us the chance to liberate ourselves never ever arose. On a personal note, in fact Biafra first looked for my dad to to shoot him and when the Federal troops came, they too looked for him for execution; it was just a period of fcked up madness for us, so its pretty rich for anybody on any side to claim they gave us any sort of lovely choice. Please stop it.

Spyker:

I really think Cynthia White is a comedian or she/he does not know the worth of Dokpesi. AIT makes more money than most states make and received as IGR (Internally Generated Revenue).

This is really JOKE OF THE YEAR

Hmmmmm! Thats an interesting one!
. . .So how come he is owing his workers [size=14pt]10 months salary?![/size]

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Simple scenario for you.

1. Assume you belong to a hypothetical political party whose rules infringed on your rights as a Nigerian.
2. You decide to assert your full rights as a citizen.

. . .So to cut a long story short, some members of the party feel aggrieved that you have decided to uphold your rights as a citizen and take you to court, cause riots and threaten war.
Unfortunately for that lot, you are also the number one citizen! What do you think is gonna happen when they kick up dust in vain and spit on the constitution?. . . Dude, it will be the full might of the law! Jackboots and all.

Forget zoning, it is an illegal contraption.

mbulela:
dude, you are getting carried away with this your Jonathan sycophancy.
try and take it easy.
Everybody that dislikes Jonathan is not an IBB lover.
i dislike IBB more than Jonathan but that does not change the fact that this country can do way better than GEJ.
dude is a mediocre and an opportunist.
This is a critical juncture in the life of this country and we need capable hands not a man that has no track record and no discernible ideology.
some of us just have a disdain for mediocrity and crass opportunism.we are no fans of IBB or even Atiku.
Pls take it easy.

So why post an article that is openly fighting IBB's fight?
If you feel Jonathan is a mediocre opportunist, back it up with raw facts, not this sort of mediocre article from the gutter.
What point exactly is the article attempting outside of character assasination?

I will point out a few things that are glaringly wrong with the article;
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[li]It mimics the name of a well known principled man, Olu Jacob[b]s[/b], by giving the author the name, Olu Jacob; those who don't care about facts wouldn't notice the difference. A fake, but similar sounding name is the surest signature of fake and counterfeit goods.[/li]
[li]The article singles out Jonathan for not declaring, but there are several others who have not done so (including IBB, who will declare on Wednesday, Atiku, Saraki, Ribadu, Duke etc etc)[/li]
[li]It is unabashed in its support of zoning (which clashes with the Nigerian constitution), that alone places the article as a very biased appraisal[/li]
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I could go on and on, but hey! Let those who (unknowingly) admire mediocrity enough to post fake articles by counterfeit authors ride on!

gadogado:
not only is chief Raymond Dokpesi courageous but he's an upright individual with honor and integrity. Zoning was an agreement adhered to by PDP stake holders, why are you trying to betray an agreement? because goodluck is not an honorable man, thats why!! So if he an betray an agreement just for greed and lust for power, then of course he'll loot the treasury.

You certainly do not know Dokpesi.

Zoning is contrary to the Nigerian constitution, if anyone doubts it, as soon as GEJ declares let them go to court and see if the judge wouldn't laugh them out. The whole zoning argument is a comedy put up by Nigeria's worst comedians, IBB and Atiku; both of whom should be in jail.
It is so ridiculous that an educated person would call Jonathan dishonourable for upholding his constitutional right.

If anyone hates the Nigerian constitution, the best thing is to leave the country or secede or hang.

hackney:
I dont see how this tetchy appointment moves the country forward.
Very shameful political motives all over that dump called nigeria.

People are still looking at what tribe is appointed to one nonsense or the other with no consideration at all for
efficiency and how the country can progress.
Next thing, he's scrambling for as much 'central' national cake as possible.
The most useless country i have ever seen.

I think a high calibre natural disaster should destroy that country for all their scheming, selfish motives and pure
evil.

The country is a scourge to other countries and should be wiped away with the indigienes.

It is best to display foolishness in the confines of your room.

Another foolish and failed Babangida article, without the slightest common sense in it, just heaps of rumour, trash and projections of the writers ill concieved thoughts.
It is an empty article devoid of the slightest attempt at seriousness or logic.

Where is Gbawe to come and fool himself with this?

jabbok:
Let's focus on d presidential candidates.

Dude, this is the title of the topic; "Why I Dumped Jonathan For IBB, By [size=14pt]Dokpesi [/size] (Zoning)."
Why should we talk about presidential candidates when the topic is about the liar called Dokpesi?

Can anybody imagine a group of armed robbers, 419's and scumbags raising an alarm about death threats?
What is this World coming to?

naijaking1:
Is Dokpesi now running for president himself?
Why should his so-called fatal flaws be used as an excuse to threaten him? Why can't we just let him express his God-given political options which ever way he chooses?

And when did I threaten him?
The man has fatal flaws which include lying. Period.

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