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Logic Mind: Which part of that nonsense declared Nigeria a confederation?

That is the general concesus of legal minds according authoritative litterature out in the wild.
Tell us what you have against the decree.

Logic Mind: You lie again. Decree 8 did not grant each region sovereignty. It granted judicial powers to regions but put executive and leglislative powers to the federal military govt.

Dude, I have no time for your accusations, I have come to see your type as bullies and cowards who prey on smaller groups. Thank God your views are an inconsequential minority among the igbo's.

Go and read Decree 8 thoroughly. If all soldiers had returned to their states of origin, what authority did the federal military govt possess?
Expert civilian advice was either absent or overlooked.
It is possible that Decree 8 breached an agreement, if so, I want to know how. Further, I want to know why Decree 8 was not used as the weapon for secession instead of bullets. Something went seriously wrong.

The full picture of those years is beginning to crystalise in my mind now:

1. There were pogroms in the North.
2. The Aburi Conference was called to avert bloodshedd and secession.
3. The Aburi Accord was signed by all parties.
4. On getting back to Nigeria, the Aburi Accord met stiff resistance (notable from the civil service).
5. Gowon declared Decree 8 which contained 95% of Ojukwu's demands
6. Biafra was disatisfied and war broke out.

This asks the following questions
1. What was the 5% of the Aburi Accord that was expunged from Decree 8?
2. How fundamentaal was this 5%?
3. How did Decree 8 fit into the agreed framework and timetable for the enactment of the Aburi Accord?
4. Was Decree 8 seen as a betrayal of trust, if so, how right or wrong was this perception?

The above four questions will lead to why so many lives were so unfortunately lost.

Dede1: Sometimes you disappoint me with your silly utterances as if all of us can not read and comprehend. Although Obasanjo was acutely economical with dates and references in his book, I suggest you read Obasanjo’s account via “My Command”. It is disingenuously ridiculous you kept hanging around the goofy stuff of neutrally. If a dunce would ask you if mid-western and western regions also declared sovereignty as eastern region did during era in discussion.

Decree 8 had granted each region sovereignty already. The Midwest could be neutral based on the contents of Decree 8 which effectivel made Nigeria a confederacy - I hope you will take time out to read it in full.

That renders all your above arguments basesless.

Dede1: Ojukwu headed towrad Lagos because of the actions of your jittery knee grandfather, father, uncle and brother who could not muster intestinal fortitude to tell Gowon and soldiers from northern region to vacate western region and relocate to Kaduna or Kano or Jos while conducting military attacks on eastern region.

History says all troops had been ordered to their states of origin. Northern troops had already been ordered back to their states of origin (due to the confedral structure Decree 8 had enforced on the country amongst other things); there was no need to either invade the Midwest or attempt to invade Lagos.

PhysicsQED: Beaf, some of those things in your list above cannot accurate and I think you know this. There's no need to make things overly complex because things really aren't.

In the simplest terms, the non-Igbo Midwesterners did not want war with anybody but were not in a position where they could fully and totally actualize their desire to remain out of the conflict. All of this other crap is just a disgusting attempt to look for scapegoats. Someone else who posted earlier who must be senile or just plain dumb even tried to insinuate that the pre-invasion Midwest - a militarily insignificant region at the time - if they felt cheated by the Aburi accord not being implemented precisely as the East wanted, could have somehow leapt into the conflict fighting against Gowon without any prior support or planning. Nairaland must be eating away at what's left of some people's brains.

Thats a fact and I did aknowledge it by saying the conclusions were not definite. Rather, that list should serve as a very good basis to set out exactly what happened in the Midwest and to exactly what consequences.

As for Eziachi, he has not even been respectful enough to apologise for the pack of untruths and vitriol he unleashed. Truth is something no man can hide.
I even published a meeting between Ojukwu and representative of the West and Midwest. Mariere made the Midwests stance and friendship clear, yet the response was a brutal invasion.
https://www.nairaland.com/945502/nigeria-break-up-2015/17#10937190

The most I can make from the matter is that it is a battle between Etete and the Abacha's, cos the Abacha's are stinging from being dumped from the company.

Anyway, winshes, enjoy unasef jare! Winshes must fly and suck blood anyway!
All hail Obubra airways!

All anyone has to do nowadays is publish manufactured material concerning any huge payment in Sahara Reporters and NL proclaims it a scandal.
I wasn't interested in the other topic about this matter that was based on the usual ethereal "sources" and was ridiculous beyond measure.
It is stup!d to say that Shell was laundering money through Etete (whose money. FG officials somehow got), it is just daft and off scale.

How is the FG concerned in a dispute between Shell and Malabu? Apart from that the FG handles oil transactions. Once again, it was a commercial dispute between Shell and Malabu - two independent, private companies.

These days though, many seem to take pride in not understanding what they are reading. Simply add the word "billion" and many stop reasoning altogether. That isn't good enough.

Anyway, I've had enough of these brainless topics designed for winshes and lovers of negative "news."

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Dude, quit clowning as a local champ here, you are fooling only yourself.

I have published the full Decree 8 of 1967 here:
https://www.nairaland.com/948996/decree-no-8-1967-answer

Instead of flapping around, saying foolish things here; I challenge you to go to that link and tell us why such a beautiful thing was rejected.
I fully understand that tempers and emotions were high over the barbaric pogroms in the North, but I cannot accept the way Decree 8 was thrown away.

https://www.nairaland.com/948996/decree-no-8-1967-answer

worm: Una go confess one by one. Anoufia

Chei! Odi very painful!
Sista, if only you know di kain deep love I have for you!
Anytime I view your profile; my heart goes thump'n, my knee's start knock'n, my eye's a pop'n; I die, resurrect and die again...

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...Always strongly and unbiasedly repping for progress, from camp GEJ. We pop out the eyes of all counterfeits.

Kind regards (with Fresh Air! )

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The argument about HTML being a programming language is an old one. Can you create computer instructions with it? Yes, you can.
The big question is if the computer instructions you can create with HTML are of a complex enough nature to tickle the fancy of the IT World.

Its all in the tiny details of what constitutes the base definitions of programming and of course, the usual "religious" positions of IT folk.

Nigeria was effectively declared a confederacy. What went wrong and how did we miss the boat?
This is one for the best minds on NL, the input of legal and constitutional minds will be especially appreciated.
Please let the discussion be cordial, cerebral and respectful.

[size=14pt]Decree No. 8 of 1967[/size]

The main feature of this Decree in the vesting in the Supreme Military Council of both the legislative and executive powers of the Government of the Federation. The Federal Executive Council which has hitherto exercised these powers has now been divested of them and it is henceforth to discharge those functions that are specifically delegated to it by the Supreme Military Council.

2. In the exercise of these legislative and executive powers, the concurrence of the Head of the Federal Military Government and of all the Military Governors is, for the first time, made essential in respect of certain matters which are set out in section 69 (6) of the Constitution. These are, to mention a few, matters affecting or relating to trade, commerce, industry, transport, the Armed Forces, the Nigerian Police, Higher Education, and the territorial integrity of a Region and the provisions of the sections listed in the proviso to section 4 (1) of the Constitution.

3. On the other hand, the legislative and executive powers of the Regions have been fully restored and vested in their respective Military Governors. But the provisions of section 86 of the Constitution of the Federation ensure that no Region shall exercise its executive authority so as to impede or prejudice the exercise of the executive authority of the Federation or to endanger the continuance of federal government in Nigeria.

4. The provisions of section 70 of the Constitution of the Federation give powers to the Supreme Military Council to take over the executive and legislative functions of a Regional Government during any period of emergency which might be declared in respect of that Region by the Supreme Military Council, while those of section 71 give the Supreme Military Council power to take appropriate measures against a Region which attempts to secede from the rest of the Federation, or where the executive authority of the Region is being exercised in contravention of section 86 of the Constitution.

5. On the question of amendment to a Regional Constitution, section 5 of the Constitution of the Federation has been suitably modified to the effect that in respect of certain matters mentioned in the section like, the appointment, tenure of office and terms of service of High Court judges, the functions of the Public Service Commission, the establishment of a Consolidated Revenue Fund, etc., andy Edict made shall come into operation only with the concurrence of the Supreme Military Council.

6. The Advisory Judicial Committee established under Decree no. 1 of 1966 and which before now tendered advice to the Supreme Military Council regarding appointment of judges all over the Federation ahs been abolished. Each Military Governor now controls appointment of judges of the High Court of his Region. But the appointment of the judges of both the Supreme Court of Nigeria and the High Court of Lagos is made the sole responsibility of the Supreme Military Council.

7. All appointments to posts in the superscale group 6 and above in the Public Service of the Federation and appointments to posts of Deputy Commissioner of Police and above in the Nigeria Police Force are now to be made by the Supreme Military Council. The functions formerly discharged under sections 110 and 146 of the Constitution of the Federation by the Federal Public Service Commission and the Police Service Commission respectively are now to that extent limited. 8. Appointments to the offices of Ambassador, High Commissioner and other principal representatives of the Republic in countries other than Nigeria are now, under the Decree, to be made by the Supreme Military Council.

I pity the likes of Logic Mind. After a lot of reading in the past few, I have almost come to definite conclusions. What I have tried to do is vary the sources of my reading metrial as much as possible, however, the following things seem to stand out:

1. Decree 8 was promulgated by Gowon, it contained 95% - 97% of Ojukwu's demands.
2. The legal meaning of Decree 8 was that Nigeria was effectively broken into 4 independent countries.
3. The Midwest minorities clearly stated they would only back the side that was for decentralisation.
4. Decree 8 promised decentralisation and decoupling of the country.
5. The Midwest declared itself neutral as a potential country.
6. The Midwest even disallowed federal troops from passing through its territory.
7. The 1966 coup seems to suggest that the top Biafran soldiers wanted a unitary govt (**this is not solid**).
8. A state of emergency could not be declared in the Midwest (after the invasion) because of decree 8.
9. The Midwest was surprisingly invaded, Ejoor fled to Lagos, Decree 8 was scrapped, the Midwest joined the federal side.
10. Before the shock invasion, the Midwest had been very friendly with Biafra and a possible ally.
11. The general conclusion of scholars is that there was no need for the war, due to Decree 8.
12. Biafra's invasion of the Midwest gifted the FG strategic territory from which to launch horrible attacks.
13. The war was lost due to the invasion of the Midwest.

[size=17pt]Does anybody have the full text of Decree 8 of 1967?[/size]

Your profiler tells you if you've done a better job than the compiler. There is no better optimiser than the human if you have some sort idea of what to look out for. For some things your code has to run near the metal at well beyond average speeds, the compiler is generally not good enough at such times. Sometimes theres no gain from manual tweaks, but thats rare.

I hardly use division in my work (more like never) except its a power of two, so I really have no use for an optimised divide by ten. However, bit shifts outperform the compiler depending on the way loops are coded.

Looking at your solution, I guess it could be done once and the results saved in an array to get the best of both Worlds.

Started with Perl, then VB, Java, then VbScript + Classic ASP, C#.
Of course there's the usual HTML, CSS, XML, SQL etc.

I bought my first computer and basically kept phucking it up big time (deleting system file style), cos I didn't have any clue about how to operate the damn thing (self taught). Those were hairy times!

[quote author=ekt_bear]Also, it doesn't make much sense to try to optimize division by say 10 using bit shifts.

Like, your compiler will probably do a better job of figuring out the fastest way of optimizing things for your processor than you will.

Like I said earlier, compilers these days are pretty smart..[/quote]Compiler optimisation depends on a lot of factors (eg local variable, const or parameter etc), so I've noticed large differences even with full programme and SSE optimisation switches set; my platform is different from yours by the way, I'm a windows/Visual Studio guy, so mileage may vary.
I've got gcc (with code::blocks), but hardly ever use it.

[quote author=ekt_bear]Eh...that was an example so you guys get the pattern.

The problem as specified, I know exactly how many digits the number I'm given has. It is 5. So no if statements are required. I didn't use any if statements in my initial code, did I?[/quote]I would get bonus marks for a much more versatile solution in any exam.

[quote author=ekt_bear]Bit shift twiddling is just division by (powers of ) 2. Or multiplication by 2.

However, that isn't relevant in this case, since I'm not dividing or multiplying by powers of two. I'm dealing with powers of 10.[/quote]The bolded is almost correct. It is not a division in the sense that it only works for powers of 2. However, most divisions can be optimised by employing both bit shifts and multiplication, addition or subtraction; that is the reason for my last answer.

[quote author=ekt_bear]So if you have the integer:

7

And someone asks you for the left-most digit.

What will you do?

Will you convert to string, then read off the left-most element of the character array?

No. You'll just return the number 7.

What if you have the number 87?

Will you convert to string?

No. You divide by 10 (getting the result 8.7) and floor if necessary. (But in C++, evidently the flooring happens automatically, so just divide by 10.)

Etc, etc...

Converting to string makes zero sense.[/quote]Thats a whole bunch of if's and switch statements, bro. You'll always need to know the size of the input integer.
Then if you've got to use one or two indices in a loop, you'll need to run through the bunch of ifs and divisions again. Not cool.

With an array, all you would need know after a single conversion operation would be the indexes you want. And then you can use these over and over at lightening speed.

[quote author=ekt_bear]Beaf. You are missing the larger point I am making.

If you have some function f(x) that converts an integer into its string representation, then necessarily it will have to do some sort of digit popping.

The only way I know of doing this is through dividing by (powers of) 10.

In fact, I suspect that it is impossible to convert arbitrary digit sequences into their string representations without some algorithm like this.

It doesn't make any sense to rail against division, and then call some function that has division inside of it.

So again...the key point is that converting sequences of digits to string will require division. Several times. [/quote]You could have a point there, but I would imagine that it would be done by bit shift twiddling.

[quote author=ekt_bear]I don't even understand the way you guys reason.

You want to build a box which does this:

Integer->[f(x)] -> Left-most digit

Rather than doing it in the most direct way possible, you guys want to do:

Integer->Convert to string representation->grab left-most character of string->convert this left-most character back to digit.

Seems so unnecessary, roundabout, and wasteful.[/quote]You will keep wondering about the proper way to do things until you stop coding in octave. I don't see its purpose after school.

The most natural structure to work with is the array. If we did a test with a timed run of your solution, its performance would be thoroughly anaemic compared to an array.

[quote author=ekt_bear]Which real-time systems don't allow you to perform division? [/quote]A lot of the time you make really stup!d arguments. Do you know how many clock cycles a division takes vs addition or subtraction?
Have you ever coded image recognition or realtime video manipulation? What you don't know, dont argue about.
Division is avoided like the plague in such systems, you limit your operations as much as possible to additions and subtractions which are fast operations. If I ever need to divide, then I make it a power of two for bit shifting.

Thats the way it rolls. Law of nature.

[quote author=ekt_bear]So you can do integer to string conversion on a real-time system, but not division by 10?

lol[/quote]You would only need to convert once. After that, calling any array index any number of times is the fastest thing on Earth.

Regardless of how a division is optimised, it is a destructive way to do a straightforward thing which is create a stream of chars which are numbers too.
In realtime systems, some micro circuits etc, division would be out the door.

Sagamite: Do I "aught" to jump?

Whatever pleases you. Just stand still, slap yourself and then come here to receive 40 of the best slaps.

Anyway, you're boring. I had expected something to get me wickedly pump'n.

[size=16pt]Sagamite jump up and slap yourself! TAWAI!
You are a nematode!
Romance section "intellectual" and akara hinglish "speshalist."

You have riddled Her Majesties The Queens English with a staccato of armed and wicked IBON!

Come here, stand still to receive 40 slaps manfully.[/size]

[size=14pt]Gbagaun! Gbagaun!! Sku bell is ringing again o![/size]

Ayam a teacher, and ayam hia to reconcile rampant ibon with Her Majesty's language, Queens English.
Ish koreshion is in blue.
Right!

Sagamite: You are a mooron! X Ibon! Fail! Butcher, you tink you are in meat market?
You are a mor[i]o[/i]n.... A' true! Jah know!

And what were blacks doing during Katrina?



You are a person! X Barbaric, bush gutter language!

Keep on running!



LWKMD!

[s]Look at the cretin that wants to correct my use of the english language.[/s] X Ibon! Fillager!
Look who's attempting to correct my English.

[s]You are trying to correct grammar nothing is wrong with and then you hang yourself with your rubbish grammar.[/s]X Ibon! Do you want to kill bin laden?
There was nothing wrong with the grammer you tried to correct, so you ended up hanging yourself with your poor effort.

Hear the cretin:



LWKMD

[s]What is "If with" my superior intellect?[/s] X Ibon! Kneel down! Hands up! Shut up! Sit down!
What do you mean by...

Is that Fresh Odour grammar?

[s]Nothing was wrong with the grammar I used until you shot niggas here. If you wanted to change it to use another format, it would be "If, considering my intellect, I do odd jobs, then you ought to be in a cage".[/s] X Ibon! Do you want to kill the Queen?
If you had wanted to rearrange the words...

Teasha, no tish me nonsense!

FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

BIG FAIL!
Final score: -12.5 / 10
Weaker than the intellectual output of a nematode!

[size=14pt]Gbagaun! Gbagaun!! Sku done finis![/size]

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Ayam preparing to disgrace some pipo! Fake hingineers dem!
Una no go beg me?!

oyb: who invited the afropseudoscientists /pseudo entrepreneurs /full time noisemakers to the discussions of professionals ?

"Professionals" and hingineerss with oluwole degress that can't scale up the simplest system. Lol!
Next thing rewires and trap setters will begin to get mouthy!

malc619: Are u saying Obj is now a standard?
Ʊ haven't even tried to explain how his trying to consolidate his power within PDP should stop him from delivering on the promises made before his election..
Why should he allow his party's issues to stop him from impressing over 20million pple who voted for him??

He didn't wait to win his "battles" before:
1. Removing fuel subsidy
2. Increasing electricity tariff
3. Proposing a mild form of tenure elongation...... Etc

Please Tell a better story!!!!

I gave Obj as an example, since you fellows see him as a very strong guy. I have not said (or even remotely implied) that he is a standard.

nuclearboy: Strange that you feel because other people were nitwits, you too should be one - for that is what you just said! OBJ failed so GEJ is fine as a failure!

Plus your second sentence amazes me - what "status quo" people is GEJ "worrying"? Is it the "cabal" that stole 2.7Trillion or the civil servants that sodomize Nigeria daily? Is the the thug Tompolo or his band of thieves?who exactly please, is GEJ worrying aside the poor man on the street?

Look, whether or not you get paid for your activities on NL is not my concern or an issue for me, but try to be more sincere and less expansive with blatant lies and grand-standing. Keeping quiet as you have donw about the USA's broadside against GEJ's govt is more honorable than vague allusions

I expect objective arguments, not wishy-washy sentiment. What I percieve though is that you have not grasped the full significance of events occurring around now. There are several battles going on and people like Tompolo have always been an intrinsic part of one of those fundamental struggles, but I will let you ruminate on that for a few months.

When you mention a cabal that stole 2.7trillion, how does that affect anything? Especially when GEJ was resolute in his demand that the vehicle (subsidy) for the theft be destroyed because it was corrupt? It is quite dishonest to victimise the finger that did the pointing; in fact if GEJ had not demanded that the subsidy system be cancelled due to corruption, would you ever have known about it? If GEJ had not opened up the black box that is the oil trade, what would you be complaining about today. Go and read the constitution thoroughly and when you are done, give praise where it is due. Past Presidents simply dealt with the mafia-like oil trade as they saw fit and in silence.

As for the US saying whatever, I cannot understand if some of you are blind or something. I will reel out a short list of US actions in the last month:

1. The US opens a consulate in Kano
2. US claims boko haram is due to poverty
3. US does not invite GEJ to G8
4. Powerful lobbies in the US argue strongly about labelling boko haram a terrorist group
5. US launvhes verbal tirade
6. US cuts oil purchases from Nigeria

All the above have gone on within the last 4 weeks or so. Again, I will leave you to ruminate on those things for a couple of months.
I laugh when I hear some of the things you people say on NL. Nobody can teach you to walk or run.

[size=14pt]Gbagaun! Gbagaun!! Sku bell is ringing![/size]

Ayam a teacher, and ayam hia to reconcile rampant ibon with Her Majesty's language, Queens English.
Deh are 4 sentences, dehfor ish koret sentence wi gif you two an a yaf (2.5).
Ish koreshion is in blue.
Right!

Sagamite: You are a person! X (-4) Uncivilised and barbaric

You have stopped running? X (-5) Ibon! Remember you are not in Sagamu.
Have you stopped running?

Don't mention gorillas in vain, they are obviously more intelligent than you. (+2.5)

If at my superior intellect, I am doing odd jobs, then you would be in a cage. X (-6) Ibon! Are you a hunter?
If with my intellect I do odd jobs, then you aught to be in a cage.

BIG FAIL!
Final score: -12.5 / 10
This is less than the intellectual power of a tortoise!

[size=14pt]Gbagaun! Gbagaun!! Sku done finis![/size]