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BecomeRich ready for the speech.[/quote]Wonders shall never cease. I remember seeing this guy rushing into the forest at Seme border.

babapupa:
Who is this wonderful governor?

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We need to give it to the Bayelsa governor, Timepre Silva.
Timepre Silva is the only governor in Nigeria to open state finances to external auditors (other governors catch fever at the mere thought).[/size]


I challenge your governor. . .

[size=14pt]Yar’Adua: North divided over possible successor[/size]
Headlines Dec 9, 2009

By Dayo Bensom Political Editor, Okey Ndiribe & Emeka Mamah
LAGOS—Amid growing concern and uncertainty over President Umar Yar’ Adua’s health, there are indications that the North is divided over a possible successor in 2011 just as the Peoples’ Democratic Party, PDP, governors, particularly those of Northern extraction insist that the President’s successor must come from their fold.

The governors’ position which appears to have shifted attention from Yar’ Adua’s health came to light even as the National Executive Committee, NEC, of the ruling party meets in Abuja tomorrow over the President.

Vanguard gathered authoritatively that moves by a section of the North to position the Kwara State Governor, Mr. Bukola Saraki, to run in the 2011 presidential ticket should President Yar’Adua drop out of the race, was opposed by the core-North which preferred a candidate from its zone.

Gov. Saraki, who is from the North-Central geo-political zone, had in company of the Bauchi State Governor, Alhaji Isa Yuguda, visited the President last week in his Saudi Arabia hospital.

Reason why Saraki was being opposed could not be confirmed but Vanguard learnt that it may not be unconnected with the fact that the Kwara governor was seen more as a Yoruba than a Northerner.

A source who spoke to Vanguard said former Vice- President Atiku Abubakar would have been the prefered candidate if he had not pitched his political tent with the opposition.

“If he had accepted Yar’ dua’s gesture earlier on, he would have easily been the successor to the president,” the source said.

ACon VP’s slot

Meanwhile, the National Publicity Secretary of the Action Congress (AC), Alhaji Lai Mohammed, has described as unconstitutional, the reported move by former President Olusegun Obasanjo to sponsor the Governor of Jigawa State, Alhaji Sule Lamido, for the position of Vice-President should the office become vacant. He spoke to Vanguard in a telephone interview, Monday.

Said he: “ It is entirely un- constitutional for anybody to embark on the search for a successor to Vice-President Goodluck Jonathan when he is still occupying that office and President Umar Yar’Ádua is still alive and in office.”

On whether Gov. Lamido may be imposed on the nation as a vice-president, Mohammed argued that apart from Yar’Ádua and Jonathan, over half of the PDP governors and members of the National Assembly were imposed on the nation during the 2007 general election.

He asked: “Did any of these Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) elective office holders come into office through free and fair party primaries? It is the PDP’s undemocratic record that has led this country to its present state,” he said.

According to him: “We are not surprised that they are already shopping for a replacement for Jonathan. Even in the present case what ought to have been done is to have a full consultation within the party.”
He maintained that the Constitution is very clear on the matter.

Said he: “The PDP would nominate another candidate for the office of Vice-President and the candidate would be ratified by the National Assembly. But whatever the PDP is doing, what is important is that the constitution has to be followed.”

He explained that there is a procedure for declaring the office of the President vacant, adding that it had not yet been put in motion.

“If for any reason the office of the Vice-President should become vacant on account of Vice-President Goodluck Jonathan vacating that office and assuming the office of President, the choice of who becomes the next vice-president is entirely that of PDP,” he said.

Relatedly, the National Publicity Secretary of Progressive Peoples Alliance ( PPA), Chief Ben Onyechere, has said the Northern political establishment should blame itself if they should allow former President Olusegun Obasanjo to dictate political decisions to them now that it is their turn to run the affairs of the country.

He was also reacting to media reports that Obasanjo was already shopping for a successor for Vice-President Goodluck Jonathan, in a telephone interview he granted to Vanguard Monday.

Said he: “I would not believe that the wise men of the North would allow Obasanjo to dictate to them what they should do. I think it is mere rumour.”

PPA carpets Obasanjo

He described Obasanjo as a mischievous person, adding that the mind of PPA does not work like Obasanjo’s.
He stated that the issue of shopping for a successor to Jonathan did not arise because the President’s ill-health is a natural phenomenon, adding that anybody could be sick and it is unGodly to do so.

Said he: “How can I comment on the health of somebody who is still living. It is not proper. I hate to discuss President YarÁdua’s health with regard to his official position. We don’t feel such a thing should be discussed.”

Song chides Northern Union

Meantime, the former National Chairman of the Peoples Progressive Alliance (PPA), Mr. Adamu Song, has lampooned the Northern Union (NU), over what he described as its veiled call against the takeover of power by Vice President Goodluck Jonathan in the event that President Umaru Yar’Adua is incapable of performing his constitutional duties due to his protracted illness.

Song said the reasons which the union relied on to oppose Jonathan’s takeover were not only alien to the 1999 Constitution but insulting to Nigerians and the North which it is claiming to champion its cause.

In an interview with Vanguard in Kaduna, yesterday, Song said, “it is insulting for the NU led by the former Senate Leader, Dr. Olusola Saraki to call for caution in a matter that is purely constitutional.

“The union said one of the reasons why it is against Dr. Jonathan’s takeover of power in the event of the President being unable to carry out his functions is because it is against the zoning policy of the ruling Peoples’ Democratic Party (PDP),” he said.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/12/09/yaradua-north-divided-over-possible-successor/

[size=14pt] Yar’Adua’s illness grounds governance in Bauchi[/size]
Wednesday, 09 December 2009 00:00 Theophilus Remi


Since President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua was flown to Saudi Arabia over his ill- health, virtually everything has come to a standstill in Bauchi State.

Governor Isa Yuguda, the President’s son-in-law now shuttles between Abuja and Bauchi almost on a daily basis, a development that has halted governance in the state.

Besides Yuguda, Kebbi State Governor Dakingari is also a son-in-law to Yar’Adua.

The Nigerian Compass investigation revealed that many ministries and parastatals in the state are not functioning effectively as some of the files that needed to be attended to by the governor are left untouched, creating a state of anxiety in the state capital.

It was further gathered that ongoing work on some of the major projects of the Yuguda administration, which include the Ningi-Burra Road, Alkaleri-Futuk Road and the state secretariat of the Nigeria Union of Journalists (Press Centre), have all been abandoned.

Speaking on the development, the Chairman of the state chapter of the Conference of Nigeria Political Parties (CNPP), Abdullahi Idris, who said the prolonged absence of the governor has increased poverty in the state, added that it has also affected its entire economy.

He said apart from the fact that the President’s ill-health has negatively impacted on the state, as “Bauchi State is part of Nigeria, Governor Isa Yuguda is the President’s son-in-law, who cannot abandon his father-in-law at this trying moment.”

According to him, the lull in government has also affected the state’s budget presentation.
“While other states have submitted their appropriation bills to their Houses of Assembly for consideration, Bauchi is yet to do so because of lack of concentration,” he said.

He stated that there is little or nothing the deputy could do in this circumstance.

His words: “He (the deputy) has a limit of certain expenditure he can approve and until the governor is around, there is nothing he can do.”

Also reacting to the development, Special Assistant on Media to the Governor, Sanusi Mohammed, who corroborated the stance of the CNPP chairman in a telephone interview, said the ill health of the President is a natural phenomenon that nobody can do anything about.

He added that it has negatively affected not only Bauchi State, but the country at large.

He said the situation has affected his boss (Yuguda), “as a human being, the governor is negatively affected just like every other Nigerian, we are praying that President Yar’Adua gets well so that things will get back to normal in the country.”

http://www.compassnews.net/Ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35878:yaraduas-illness-grounds-governance-in-bauchi&catid=43:news&Itemid=799

Otobroto!

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Seriously, you need to take down that pic. That person is suffering.

We need to give it to the Bayelsa governor, Timepre Silva.
Timepre Silva is the only governor in Nigeria to open state finances to external auditors (other governors catch fever at the mere thought).

unu go kill pesin one day o!

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There is no reason why anybody would run away from your thread. Is it because you represent Northern interests?

Me, clout! Na becomerich carry clout for NL o! Don't let that man vex with me, I don already dey im black book.
I'll only start the new topic if you insist.

0hsisi:
Fashola for sure.
That akala man looks like a womanizer.I can see it in his eyes

Are you talking about women in the natural or spirit World?
. . .Because dat man wowo. . . . . .

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Ok, what of the resource control. You for no put any percent, so I say 100% and taxes to the FG.

With that I suggest you open a new thread and call it something like NL Sovereign National Conference, then set up a means for each area to elect their representatives.
Let's do it, you've suggested a good thing.

(4)Allocation of federal revenues to states will be tied to revenues generated by the states themselves.
(for example; if according to revenue sharing formular a state's share is N1billion per quarter, the state only gets 50% of that; additional funds will be in the form of matching funds -  thus the state gets additional N500m only if she generates an equal amount of revenue from tourism, taxes, or any other means.
. . .
(6)20year jail term with hard labor for anyone caught romanticizing the breakup of the country.

You forgot the most important thing; true federalism. Your proposal is for a unitary system, so it falls far short of the minimum.
Also, an important part of any federal constituition is the right to secede and the process for secession.

Sky Blue:
I just wonder if you really know what you are proposing. How many homes in Autralia are run on stirling engines? The fact that you think it would simply be an alternative to buying generators simply shows it is not necessarily the most practical or best approach to tackle domestic consumption, only appealing as a lesser of two evils. First of all how much are these engines and how much power do they supply. I could go on and pick holes in your proposition, but I don't think such would be necessary. At least you have a solution, no matter how impractical I think it is. I would rather stick with decentralised mass distribution which would come in a large number of power plants situated around the country to meet the energy demand.

Why should we copy Australia, don't we have brains ourselves? I don't get it.
Buying generators is the reality today, but that is far from the point; centralisation of services breeds inefficiencies (that is proven and recognised by experts Worldwide).
Freeing up govt funds in a developing country is a benefit that cannot be tossed aside, so it isn't as simple as picking holes in my proposition (that will be a mountain to climb).

I must leave this argument now (the thread starter must be pretty pissed now).

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=363567.msg5076264#msg5076264 date=1260318475]@nchara
governance is not mathematics.Rivers,akwa ibom,delta,bayelsa states receives federal monthly allocation lagos but does that make any changes to the region.Government is also about commitment and dedication which fashola has shown over other governors[/quote]Eh? Calm down!

Delta state has the highest Human Development Index in Nigeria.
Bayelsa state is new. . . Rivers state is doing fine thank you!

Sky Blue:
You are right, but I have to point out some things you don't seem to be considering. The technology is still in its infancy and has not been used at large scales capable of generating megawatts of power. Using the technology on such large scales is still being "worked on". It is not as tried and tested as coal, we do not know how reliable it is going to be because it is still quite new. Solar and wind farms require space to generate the kind of power we need.

On the other hand, we have oil and even better, we have gas. Steam and gas turbines are tried and tested and reliable.

So you are proposing every home in the country purchases this novel technology?

Precisely!
Instead of buying generators an relying on PHCN, then govt can fire up power stations to supply industries and offices only.

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Someone needs to tie this babe up!

jumobi1:
* warri_word_of_life_bible_church

what does that have to do with Uduaghan?

Abeg leave matter jare! 
Does "warri_word_of_life_bible_church" maintain the roads in the pic? As far as I know "warri_word_of_life_bible_church" exists in an environment enabled by govt.
Our street lights don't go off in the night.

Abi, are you from Akure or Jalingo?!

donjon:
Like play,.,like play.,.,

Ewe - eee!!!
Am begging you with a combination of Jesus and Muhammad. . .

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You are talking about losses for converting [b]free [/b]solar energy into electricity.
No gas to be bought plus, a stirling engine is very simple and can last until the end of the World; there's little that can beat that.

Also, if we are talking about decentralising the distribution of electricity and making every home self sufficient, there's no need for huge MW systems.

Kobojunkie:
Wasn't democracy given as a solution? Why are we NOW afraid to pursue it to the fullest?

The national conference is meant to determine how several cultures can fit together. No individual is a culture, rather an individual belongs to a culture; therefore cultures (ethnicities) alone need to be represented. There might be space given to certain special interests like the almajiri's, residents of horrible slums like Ijora Badia, people from ND creeks etc. The guideline would be that people are bound by commonalities (those commonalities must not equate to the cardinal points of the compass).

Sky Blue:
1000MW might be plenty for Nigeria, but not plenty for Australia. The point I am trying to make is, if they are the world leaders in solar power as you claim, and they have heat and light, how come at current solar power accounts for less than 1% of their total generating capacity? Does that not send off some flags. Yes photovoltaic cells are pretty ineffective, but I am quite curious, yes steam turbines generally have an efficiency of about 45% whether heated by heat from burning oil or the sun. But I am quite curious, can you possibly give instances and examples currently being used whereby solar technology using focused heat has been implemented into the heating process that instigates whole cycle?

There's this one http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2008/solargrid.html
It provides 25 kW at an efficiency of 31.25% There are several different designs, techniques and models, but they are all simple. Like I said, we will be publishing and teaching a lot of details in the near future.

puskin:
. . .brb with Beaf nd Kobojunkie profiles.

Your own profile nko?

I must say that I really appreciate every one who put my name up there. It is an honour, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I will now do my best to dodge Jakumo's verbal contortions and destroy becomerich's empire at Seme border.

There will be no point in a Sovereign National Conference if ethnicity isn't to be considered. What will there be to discuss?

There is no way we can banish "tribal" afilliations; they can only be watered down. Every individual belongs to a ethnic group, that ethnic group determines the individuals identity and culture, the name they bear, the names they give their children. We cannot escape it.

Sky Blue:
. . .
At current, the safe analysis for working with oil is, if you invest $1billion, you can expect to get about 1000MW. Australia is investing $420million in what is meant to be the biggest and most efficient solor photovoltaic [/b]power station in the world. Guess how much power it is expected to generate on completion? [b]154MW. Should we continue this discussion?

1000MW is very plenty for Nigeria.

The efficiency of photovoltaic cells is generally between 15 and 20% only, whereas, you can get efficiencies of 45% and above with thermal methods eg driving multi-stage steam turbines with focussed heat.
We don't have the technology to fabricate the semiconductors for photovoltaics, but it does'nt take much to build systems like I described above. It will cost nothing and deliver the Vision 2020 power projections like tomorrow or so.

[size=14pt]Uduaghan is the best.

I hail Warri! [/size]Warri is much more developed than most state capitals! Akure people, hold your governor to task; Jalingo people, go and hide!

Pharoh:
That is my thinking as well but i will like to hear how the representation is going to be at the conference?

It will have to be by ethnic group, so there will be no North or South or West or South South (if any groups form alliances, all well and good). Everybody will answer to the ethnic group and tell us what they want and how they want it. Each vote will have equal weight.

sjeezy8:
A national conference among Elites and political heads from all parties and regions is not plausible.
It still doesnt and wont change the mind of common Nigerian voters. (who matter the most)

No, no!
It won't have anything to do with politicians or parties. It will be a grassroots thing, with the people choosing those who will truely represent their interests.
The only problematic bit might be, the mode of choosing the representatives. It will need to be above board (maybe the methods employed for MKO's election could be used).

@Jona
Where are you getting all those wretched tiny pictures from. Abi dem make your computer for vietnam?

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=363206.msg5075349#msg5075349 date=1260306635]One word - expediency.[/quote]If we have a Sovereign National Conference, we will have to accept and deal with every item that comes to the table (otherwise we will be dictating peoples "likes" and "deslikes"; that will be seen as an arrogant position).

Katsumoto:
I know you have often alluded to being from the North, so I will ask this question. Don't you think Nigeria would have been better off, if the Northern elites had pursued programmes of educating their people? I am of the opinion that the Northern elites have held their people back so that they can use them to do their bidding.

I am not tribal-bashing here; just asking what your thoughts are on this.

A very good question.
The lack of education in the North has become a security problem. If we are to hold a national conference, one of the issues under discussion must be the state of education in the North. In my opinion, anyone that keeps education away from their child should be jailed; that should be the Nigerian position too, all that needs doing, is setting the minimum standard.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=363206.msg5075196#msg5075196 date=1260304760]I wonder whether Nigerians of the eastern extraction could be open to the idea of a "Sovereign National Conference" where serious issues could be ironed out, but a conference which excludes any discussion of breaking up the country?  I believe progressives in the North are quite open to the idea of federalism and we could discuss how to accomplish "true" federalism in such a conference.

Millions of lives were lost during the civil war to keep nigeria one,  and anyone that believes that Nigeria will breakup peacefully this time, should think again.  

make i go come.[/quote]How can a [b]Sovereign [/b]National Conference have exclusions?