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Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 12:52am On Sep 28, 2009
gadogado:
You're ignorant! simple! the kuwaiti crown prince saad al-ahmed al-sabah is black.what are you talking about!his mother, jamila is african.i used to live in dubai (im black) i had a room mate who is full blooded kuwaiti and he used to watch so much pornography but the thing was he only watched the videos that had black women in them coz according to him,he liked the butts.furthermore,i was close to palestinians there and they were a group of friends, all palestinian but a mix of muslims and christians and they were brothers and loved each other often making fun of each others religion.dont be ignorant and never generalize people,its shallow and shows your lack of depth and understanding of the human mind and social conditions. furthermore, alot of arabs hate eachother,i have seen this first had,the gulf arabs despise the lebanese and the egyptians ad vice versa,saudis hate jordanians and palestinians etc etc, there is a lot of that between them and if you want to go down memory lane,you'll find that arabs lived in tribes and many of them engaged in tribal warfare, killing each other coz they were from different tribes meaning they hated each other.

so stop acting like your some special victim of arab hate coz you're black,many people hate for various reasons. Furthermore,if you want to be honest ans if you are well travelled,is there anywhere on this earth of ours that loves black people? anywhere you go as a black person,you'll find people who hate you and think you're lower than them. EVERYWHERE or dont they have that in the u.khuhpls go and expand your mind.dont single out arabs coz everyone hates blacks even blacks that are lighter skinned hate darker skinned blacks and often ridicule them whether african americans or africans especially nigerians. as a kid,i'd always here little hausa kids singing a song when they saw a particular type of white bird "bellbela bellbela bani fari in baka baki" it means "bird,bird give me your white and i'll give you my black" if blacks themselves didnt hate each other,would they sell each other in the transatlantic slave trade,in one case,a black cheif sold 200 blackmen to a white man for a mirror,actually he exchanged or bartered 200 men for a mirror so he could look at himself,IS THERE NOT SOMETHING INHERENTLY DIFFICIENT IN BLACK PEOPLEhuh?BE HONEST
Come on man! This guy isn't balck. I like the juicier parts of your post though  wink

[img]http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/media/ALeqM5jL0r0dIXOYM1OsGyh7lhaiTS7s6w?size=m[/img]
Politics › Re: Will Yar Adua Declare His Own Independence? by Beaf(op): 12:36am On Sep 28, 2009
Meanwhile. . . shocked

Yar’Adua’s second term campaign hots up – The Nation
September 27, 2009 by tim

Brushing aside rumours of ill-health and rash of criticisms on inept leadership from the opposition, the Presidency and top officials of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP have launched an intensive, yet underground campaign to ensure President Umaru Yar’Adua returns to power in the coming presidential elections, which is 20 months away.


For the past eight months, the source revealed, an intensive but stealthy campaign has been launched, which include but not limited to widespread mobilisation of the nation’s most critical sector. An independent source revealed that ‘billions of naira’ have been raised for the campaign.

Irrespective of his achievement profile, Yar’Adua’s re-election is said to be a critical factor to certain symbiotic interests; the core-North, which intends to hold on to power for geo-political reasons, a section of the business and political class which think its interests would be further consolidated with the President’s second coming.

The PDP also seems to rely strongly on the advantage of a weak, polarised and sometimes opportunistic opposition at the national level to push for Yar’Adua’s return.
http://nigerianbulletin.com/summary-plus-news/yar%E2%80%99adua%E2%80%99s-second-term-campaign-hots-up-the-nation/27092009/10071/
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 12:23am On Sep 28, 2009
Why pretend? This is what the North really wants.

Politics › Will Yar Adua Declare His Own Independence? by Beaf(op): 4:46pm On Sep 27, 2009
angry
A conversation between Yar Adua and Turai while celebrating Nigeria's independence day in Saudi Arabia. Date: 01/10/ 2009.

Turai: We're just chopping sha! It is better than 419,
Yar Adua: Dem be fool.
Turai: Government is going very well; you snobbed Obama and we have even finished those Niger Delta people.
Yar Adua: Dem be fool.
Turai: Business is good. Ibori has been running this country so well. Why do Nigerians hate him?
Yar Adua: Dem be fool.
Turai: Hmm, we even brought in the idiot Sanusi. He bailed the banks out with 420 billion, people warned but kai! That man is stubborn! The banks immediately lost value to the tune of 470 billion. Me, I don't know maths but. . . And Nigerians are still praising him. Yakare!
Yar Adua: Turai my only Kuli Kuli, dem be fool; let us sell the independence papers next o jare!. . .

Let us pray that Yar Adua declares his very own independence and abandons the country for Saudi Arabia. . . Never to return. angry
Politics › Re: 7 Northern States Spent One Billion Naira(1,000,000,000) For Ramadan Feeding. by Beaf: 12:00pm On Sep 27, 2009
SapeleGuy:
My friend, most Nairalanders are only interested in selective justice. If only you could inject the name of Ibori or Alams in this story, this thread would be buzzing and then corruption will disappear, the whole country will develop, Yaradua will win a nobel peace prize  etc etc etc and we will all live happily ever after.
You would expect that the NLers from those states would have pounced on this thread to express their anger by now.
But the really weird thing is that only discussion of the ND, Arabic or Islam seems to get them all geared up and red eyed.
Investment › Re: Sanusi At NSE: I Am Surprised People Are Selling Bank Stocks by Beaf: 11:53am On Sep 27, 2009
Poor Sanusi!

He doesn't understand shocked shocked shocked He came in like a little Mussolini; exploding financial bombs here and there; but is surprised that there is a result.
Its what Nigeria gets for promoting mediocrity to high places.
Politics › Re: 7 Northern States Spent One Billion Naira(1,000,000,000) For Ramadan Feeding. by Beaf: 11:43am On Sep 27, 2009
Sickening.
Even "holy" periods are now excuses for looting. Aren't these the same states where 80% of the population are below the poverty line?
Politics › Re: Ribadu: Why I’m After Ibori by Beaf: 10:56am On Sep 27, 2009
^
You have a solid point. Abacha was the one that elevated Ibori from a penniless ex-convict, trekking around Ojuelegba in slippers to ultra thief. I strongly believe he is a frontman for the Abacha clan.
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 3:21am On Sep 27, 2009
http://businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2637:the-arab-quest-for-lebensraum-in-africa-and-the-challenge-to-pan-africanism-3&catid=96:columnists&Itemid=350

http://afgen.com/arab_domination.html

Paper presented at the Global Pan-African Reparations and Repatriation Conference (GPARRC) on 25 July, 2006, at the University of Ghana, Legon, Accra.
Politics › Re: Amnesty On My Mind by Beaf: 11:45pm On Sep 26, 2009
kite baba:
yea,from Delta state
Nice one.

If you don't mind, I asked because of your name "Francis Kite". It sounds European or American; your singing accent too doesn't sound Nigerian.
Were you born in Nigeria? How's the singing going?
Politics › Re: Amnesty On My Mind by Beaf: 11:23pm On Sep 26, 2009
Are you Nigerian?
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 10:44pm On Sep 26, 2009
@df2006

Don't bother replying ndu_chucks. It is like arguing with a tree stump; he just has no sense.

To make matters worse, his forced diction is worse than anything becomerich or egwofor can muster.
Politics › Re: Kidnappers Strike Again In Kaduna by Beaf: 10:31pm On Sep 26, 2009
THE AMAKA:
you said it!
maybe not in this thread.
but when you refer to things you usually say "you easterners" or "you igbos"
as if we are all under the same bus as those who commited those crimes.
you didnt have to say it in this thread, brody. tongue

no one supports ANYTHING!!
SHEESH!
stop throwing more monkey feces, i believe you have done enough.
Yeah, he did call Igbo's and SS people monkeys on this thread.
Politics › Re: Kidnappers Strike Again In Kaduna by Beaf: 10:30pm On Sep 26, 2009
skfa1:
@ Sjeesy8

Whats your bottom line?
The guy is seriously daft. Thats pretty much it.
Politics › Re: Kidnappers Strike Again In Kaduna by Beaf: 10:20pm On Sep 26, 2009
^
Donkey! we are talking about you now, not Westerners. Stop spreading the net.
If we have anything to say about the West, it will be said within the right context; not from a "tribal" perspective.
Politics › Re: Kidnappers Strike Again In Kaduna by Beaf: 10:08pm On Sep 26, 2009
sjeezy8:
kidnapping is all over Nigeria no doubt but the point is IF THE KIDNAPPERS ARE FROM A DIFFERENT REGION IT CAN CAUSE ETHNIC/RELIGIOUS PROBLEMS
Easy problem to solve. Create an atmosphere that will discourage it.

Thats why those of us who care enough have been calling a restructuring of the country (or dissolution as last resort). There are too many sjeezy's in power because the present inequitable system favours mediocre "tribalists" and corrupt idiots. Nigeria is now the laughing stock in international circles.
Politics › Re: Kidnappers Strike Again In Kaduna by Beaf: 9:57pm On Sep 26, 2009
Sjeezy is one funny guy. Sometimes you've got to wonder if his brain is really his ass. grin

Someone called him the section urchin. . . So apt!
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 9:08pm On Sep 26, 2009
IG:
@Beaf, the true meaning of the Eagle is not strength. Check out the links I've posted earlier please.
If the Almajiris cannot read, then what do they write on the slates they carry? Mind you, I am not advocating the almajiri educational system in these times. But instead of branding them illiterates why don't we take advantage of their Arabic literacy. That's why I gave an example with merchants that record their transactions in Arabic.
Agreed their are many problems in the north some of which you cited in your hot reply, but those problems doesn't change the fact that Ajami writing is part of the North's cultural heritage. Northerners therefore have the right to demand that the Hausa writing on the naira be rendered in it's original Ajami form and not with English characters.

Why don't you suggest that the numeric value on the naira be changed from the Arabic numerals (1 2 3 4 , ) to maybe roman numerals ( I II III IV , ). Maybe then the Naira will be Arabic-free. grin
None of the links you posted mention Nigeria a single time. So in the context of Nigeria, your suggestion of religious symbolism in the coat of arms is very dangerous one. If anything, the North (as acknowledged by the British) were favoured before independence. So how could Northern leaders have chosen a Christian symbol? shocked
That said; let us remember that the argument is about Arabic on the Naira.

We owe our present numerals to the Hindu's, not Arabs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numerals
Stop believing the "Arabic numeral" propaganda.

Northerners DO NOT have a right to demand anything. No one has that; rather we have a right mutual respect; to each be heard and considered. The choice of the word “demand” projects some sort of victim mentality. But if anything the North is far from a victim, the present situation there is 100% percent self inflicted. The Northern leadership have used illiteracy, poverty and religion as weapons to keep their people down; Arabic is one of the main tools to keep you separate and looking over the wall at riches that can never be grasped. The brainwash is so complete that you argue vigorously for the perpetration of the tools of your oppression (even clutching at straws); it is so complete that almajiri’s (“educated” as they are) will kill at a whim. The solution is really simple, if you guys open your eyes.

Arabic has also been used in some parts of Western Nigeria and Edo state for just as long as it has been used in the North. But you would never expect the likes of Boko Haram to rise in those parts of Nigeria; neither will you ever expect any mind bending clamour for Arabic inscriptions on the Naira to be made there.
You cannot keep yourselves separate and sing “one Nigeria”. It can’t work. No one is saying you can’t have your Arabic. Just keep it strictly out of national affairs.
Politics › Re: Ibori Loot/resource Control--any Hope For Refund/justice? by Beaf: 6:09pm On Sep 26, 2009
There should be a death sentence for corruption.

One thing is certain though, Ibori has always been a frontman for Abacha's clique.
Nabbing him is key to untangling ND issues and identifying all the ex-generals / oligarchy folk choking life out of the ND.
Politics › Re: Ibori: Ribadu Sought My Help In Bid To Become Ig by Beaf: 6:01pm On Sep 26, 2009
Pennywise:
This press conference suggests without doubt that the Ogidigboigbo and his team are in a panic mode.

It is a futile attempt engineered by Tony Eluemunor to counteract the ongoing media onslaught orchestrated by Nigerians in the diaspora. It is weak, feeble, uncordinated and lacks credibility. It will not influence the ongoing trial of his accomplices in any +ve way for the defence.

While Ibori is at his current media campaign someone should pls remind him to stay far away from the UK, Europe and the USA where Ribadu is getting royal treatment .
Ibori should even stay away from Seme, because guys dey wait.
More grease to Ribadu.
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 5:46pm On Sep 26, 2009
IG:
I agree that English is Nigeria's official language, but who said that only the official language should appear on the currency notes? . . .Do you know that most of those Almajiri boys that the North is (often justifiably) ridiculed about can read and write those Arabic scripts.
Yes, our official language MUST appear on our currency. Or why call it an official language?
Like I asked before, wouldn’t it be ridiculous to consider printing government documents in Arabic? So why the difference for the Naira?

Almajiri’s can read! “Oh just Arabic”. Perhaps, all those good folk getting married to 9 year old girls can read too. . . As well as those spreading the word that the West wants to wipe them out with vaccinations shocked, much worse though, is Boko Haram (and the plethora of similar groups. But I guess that someone’s pathetic idea of “teach, teach, teach”.
And herein lies the problem. We have a largely illiterate population in the North that is making stunning claims to literacy amongst wilful murderers, street urchins and uneducated cult members.
It is more honest for the North to embrace the sea change in cultural mindset that needs to be undertaken to bridge the educational chasm with the South. It is not surprising that with attitudes like yours that the north continues to provide macabre religious pogroms annually. All the while, providing zero value to the Naira on which they strangely want Arabic printed (a comprehensively ridiculous idea). An ignorant person is dangerous.

IG:
I was reffering to the Eagle on the coat of arms and not the shield, horses e.t.c
The reality mr Beaf is that the whole country cannot all convert to your ethnic group. We must learn to accept that we are living together with others who might be culturally different from us.
We might be culturally different, but we sure ain’t Arabs or even Yemeni.

"The Coat of Arms of Nigeria has a black shield with two white stripes that come together, like the letter Y. These represent the two main rivers flowing through Nigeria: the Benue River and the Niger River. The black shield represents Nigeria's good earth while the two horses on each side represent dignity. The eagle represents strength, while the green and white bands on the top of the shield represent the rich agricultural land of the inspiring country. The yellow flowers at the base (incorrectly shown as red in the image) are Costus Spectabilis, Nigeria's national flower." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Nigeria

It isn’t surprising that you missed the reference to the eagle above; I haven’t written in Arabic. embarassed
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 8:22am On Sep 26, 2009
^
Another stupid, rambling answer. Olodo.

The base line of this argument is, English is Nigeria's official language and Arabic has no place on our currency. Period!

How daft can you get? While some of us (you don't seem to get it) are talking about Arabic incriptions, you have been dancing around; asking donkey questions such as if the govt is legitimate. So printing Arabic on money is what decides the FG's legitimacy? Damn! They need new choir boys.

Don't put yourself forward if you get mentally lost at each simple iteration of a simple enough topic.

Before you start talking about the road to Ore next, let me remind you once again that the argument is simply; "Arabic has no place on our currency". Ode.
Politics › Re: Why Ribadu Is After Me - Ibori by Beaf: 6:38am On Sep 26, 2009
So how come Ibori is the only one Ribadu is crusading against?
He is only ranting because his beans is burning. grin
Politics › Re: Kidnappers Strike Again In Kaduna by Beaf: 6:35am On Sep 26, 2009
@szeezy

What a coward you are!
You are just scared stiff that your political "arrangements" are going to scatter.
Do you really care that much that the thieves and scoundrels making Nigeria the laughing stock of the World are being kidnapped?

So what if problems start in the North? You think people are going to watch them throw the same old bullshit as before? No way man! Is any bleeping almajiri going to rampage amongst your loved ones without getting uprooted like a weed?

Stop shivering and be a man, there is much more to gain from freeing our country. Cowards die many times. . .
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 3:20am On Sep 26, 2009
IG:
I think we've been here before, there has been such a discussion on the so-called Arabic inscriptions on the Naira as far back as 2005 or 2006. I just couldn't dig up the thread. What you guys call arabic inscriptions are not arabic but Ajami scripts. Ajami is actually Hausa written with Arabic letters. That's how the original hausa writing is. And that is what many Northerners that do not have western education can read.
I really do not think Sanusi will bring back Ajami though I wish he would (No apologies here). I believe by erasing the Ajami writings you are erasing an important cultural identity of the North. Don't forget that cultural identity is what made Soludo changed his name from Charles to Chuckwuma. And Cultural Identity is what made Joe Garba a christian to wear a turban.
Give a two hundred naira note to anybody that can read arabic and ask him to read the arabic text to you. He will pronounce "Naira Dari Biyu" that's "Two Hundred Naira" in Hausa. That is how Ajami works. The relationship between Ajami writing and Arabic is like the relation between Igbo and Yoruba writings with english letters.

Back in those days I pointed out the difference between Arabic and Islam and also pointed out how each group in Nigeria is represented in our National symbols. I gave an example with the Eagle that we are so fond of (Court of Arms, Super Eagles e.t.c) as being a christian symbol.

http://www.catholic-saints.info/catholic-symbols/eagle-christian-symbol.htm
http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/symbols/eagle.htm
http://home.att.net/~wegast/symbols/symbolse/symbolse.html

I also heard somebody said that there are no Arabs in Nigeria. Well, then you maybe you've never heard of an ethnic group called Shuwa Arab found in Borno State. They've even once produced a state governor in the person of Alhaji Asheikh Jarma. Also most of the ethnic groups from the North-East trace their roots back to Yemen. This is not based on some legends but based on documented evidence and written history.

And for those of us that so much despise Arabic, I'll advice them to device a new number system because the numerals we use with the english language are derived from Arabic and that's why they are called Arabic Numerals.

The Isreali currency called the shekkel has arabic (not Ajami) inscriptions on it. I didn't hear the Jews complaining.
The bottom line of this argument is that, English is Nigeria's official language; Arabic is totally alien and without any footing in Nigeria.
How about this for a joke; why not print government documents in Arabic because some people cannot read English? Why not?! angry

If I write an English sentence in cyrillic alphabet, a few things remain clear;
[list]
[li]it is cyrillic[/li]
[li]cyrillic is Eastern European (eg Russia)[/li]
[li]you will not expect countries outside Eastern Europe?(eg America) to have it on their currency[/li]
[/list]

As to the Nigerian coat of arms being Christian; that is a load of BS. It is completely ignorant and laughable.
The Coat of Arms of Nigeria has a black shield with two white stripes that come together, like the letter Y. These represent the two main rivers flowing through Nigeria: the Benue River and the Niger River. The black shield represents Nigeria's good earth while the two horses on each side represent dignity. The eagle represents strength, while the green and white bands on the top of the shield represent the rich agricultural land of the inspiring country. The yellow flowers at the base (incorrectly shown as red in the image) are Costus Spectabilis, Nigeria's national flower.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Nigeria

Even if Northern Nigerians are all bona fide Yemeni, they live in Nigeria and must conform to Nigerian expectations. Those whose allegiance lies in  Yemen can find their way back there.
Let's not divorce ourselves from reality.
Politics › Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity? by Beaf: 2:45am On Sep 26, 2009
@OnlyTruth and Uduzue
Make una no mind me jare o!

@Niger_d
Oya, land make we break some kola and pour libation (but still tell that boy make 'e lef Clara waist o! grin)
Politics › Re: Nigerian Anger Over China Deaths by Beaf: 1:30am On Sep 26, 2009
The Nigerian lawmakers want the government to conduct an audit to determine how many illegal Chinese immigrants there are in the country
Ehn!

At the very least, I would expect that our embassy in China to have records at their fingertips of all Nigerians entering and leaving the country. An email should do. No?

If all else fails are flight records simply thrown away? shocked
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 1:12am On Sep 26, 2009
[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=325012.msg4612729#msg4612729 date=1253918455]I go respond to df2006 and Beaf on Saturday. we get plenty issues to handle, soon enough I go expose una. Una problem pass arabic inscriptions, I go extract una views soon enough.

In de maintime make una answer dis simple question: Do you believe that the Nigerian government is legitimate?  na simple question, so una no fit say na pigin I take ask de question.  Together or separate, we go find solution for una.

una fit ignore me or bury una head for sand, dat no go change de truth say, the crop of leaders wey Nigeria get including una governors, love de fact say una dey confused.[/quote]This is now approaching joke level. Does govts decision to stupidly add Arabic inscriptions (or not) to the naira somehow determine its legitimacy?
Maybe you don't even know the meaning of the word "legitimacy".

As for "exposing" anybody, have you exposed corruption in Abuja? You won't go looking for your genuine enemies kidnapping you guys in Kaduna! No? Stay there and "expose" ordinary Nigerians. Boko Haram. angry
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 11:13pm On Sep 25, 2009
@df2006
ndu_chucks is Hausa (look through his posts), he's more used to Hausa thats why he murders pidgin english so violently. grin

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=325012.msg4612222#msg4612222 date=1253909666]beaf, nobody dodge you. ngwannu, I dey here left right and center, so na which issue i dodge? e be like say na you be de real maradonna. which issue I dodge? raise am and I go address am.

but if you dey fear, no yawa. just remember say, inasmuch as una no fit swim 100miles offshore, una no fit claim offshore oil wey dey there.[/quote]Stupid.

So has the money from the offshore oil wells served to raise the average marriage age for girls in Kebbi state from 11 years?

Have the offshore oil wells saved 9 year old girls from child marriage and the ravages of Vesicovaginal fistula?

Have they saved your miriad illiterates from stone age belief that the polio vaccine is a scourge?

Have these oil wells educated your people such that they have become insulated from neanderthal movements like Boko Haram?

Has offshore oil given you guys more security in your traditions, culture and heritage so that there is no need to masturbate over Arabic inscriptions and realise you aren't even remotely from Saudi Arabia?

What indeed, has govt provided for the North apart from some bleeping Arabic on the Naira notes? A simple almajiri palliative.

https://bop.nppa.org/2007/thumbnails/512/00014025/UES_Evangel/00014025-UES-Evangel-001.JPG
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 9:06pm On Sep 25, 2009
^
You have dodged every single issue that could have given your replies some gravity or at least, a degree of responsibilty; and you want me to go addressing some puerile bulletted points? I won't, if you have something to say; say it.

Reminder. . .
Beaf:
Good to hear that. We have a govt that claims to be a democracy, yet operates like a secret cult. Everything is propagated as rumour.

. . .As far as the Hausa bit is not written in Arabic.
Business › Re: New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason? by Beaf: 8:47pm On Sep 25, 2009
[quote author=ndu_chuks]Key features of the new notes include their small size, pictures of some past Nigerian heroes including the famous female porter Hajiya Ladi Kwali, bold numbering, map of Nigeria, the national colors and the denominations written in the three major languages of Ibo, Hausa and Yoruba[/quote]Good to hear that. We have a govt that claims to be a democracy, yet operates like a secret cult. Everything is propagated as rumour.

. . .As far as the Hausa bit is not written in Arabic.

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