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munas:
wow...

Thanks.I will get the cards.
Seems you work with children with challanges.
Are you located in lagos?

No, I have an autistic son , he is 13yrs so we have gone thru the dark days.

komekn:
Forgive my ignorance what on earth is S.A.D.

Seasonal affective disorder

Popularly known as winter disorder.

Tyche:
Go siddon for gutter abeg, mtcheeeeeeeeeew

Bro calm down
And apologise pls

Death is a difficult emotion to deal with, he told us wat happened, but u doubting him without really knowing the fact. He probably abbreviated the story, but u don't know nothing about it.

Pls apologise and let move on,

AreaFada2:
I was surprised o. It was those in the game who told me last year.

I just wanted to politely ask if they have put papers in.

To be honest I do not know about the British marriage one. 95% of people I know used the EU marriage route. Only God knows what will happen to new ones after Brexit.

Even some were failed EU marriage cases. But never officially had legal stay, so did not qualify for 10 years mixed legal-illegal stay.

These pple are not smiling oo

Hm, u trust my pple sha

munas:
Hmmm....

What kind of card for communications are you talking about?
Cos i have a case in my house too...

U cut them into squares and laminate it, put it on a pin and pin to whatever u wearing.

So if the child is shouting, u just him the the no shouting picture, u can also verbalise it. It's not magic but Eventually he will start to associate that very sign with being quiet.

Say he wants a cookie, u show him the cookie picture, soon he will start selecting wat he wants from all the pictures, also make sure he points to to wat he wants. Keep pointing to stuff, he will soon start to copy u.

Then play is very important, not just with peers, but with mum or dad.

Sit on the floor with toy, and let him lead, if he wants to throw balls join in. If he wants to zoom a car around the room join in but keep verbalising ball, yes ball . Car zooooommmm , no too much talk, one or two words, it's a slow process but wen it clicks progress picks up.

munas:
Hmmm....

What kind of card for communications are you talking about?
Cos i have a case in my house too...

They are called pecs.

AreaFada2:
UK. In America even more.

Many failed with EU marriage stuff. Only some with UK kids eventually did get.

While some were waiting for 15 years stay to apply, Theresa May as Home Office secretary shifted it 20 years.

W ooohh , it's 20yrs

I heard marring a British citizen is 10yrs.

slimany:
lol. The struggle was not for him but he prefers to blaim his friends who stay put and keep hustling real hard. I guess that your brother na ajebutter, cos I doubt if any struggling Nigeria dude will even think of Nigeria for the next 5years talk less of coming back to naija.How I wish I can talk to that ur sister not send anything to him again so he can be more responsible.

The guy no be ajebo ooo, just plain lazy.

Na church twist my sister head, she desperate to keep her marriage.

salford:
I didnt say there are no jobs over here. Just letting you know the jobs are also not easy to come by. Even the so called survival jobs would still not be handed to you on a platter of gold e.g cleaning or hotel bed laying jobs. Employers would ask you for years of experience in cleaning/operation of buffing machine or bed laying.

I stayed cos i was determined. Alot of Nigerians arrived Canada/UK around the same time i arrived, and returned home cos they couldnt bear the hardship/difficulty...
You are suprised..yes, lots of nigerians and other foreign nationals return to their home countries every year when they realised abroad is not eldorado and they were better off at home......

I Suffered for some years and eventually broke even. I am glad that i slugged it out...I stayed back cos of my kids...atleast my children would have excellent education, good healthcare, good stndard of living e.t.c they would not have had access to in Nigeria. They would also find it much easier than i did when i moved here.

Lol, talking of those who ran back to naija, my brother in law got a Visa to Ireland thru a church program, after the program he and a few other pple ran away and decided not to go back to Nigeria.

They started staying with a relative of one of the guys. The relative secured menial jobs for them.

My brother in law went one day and decided the struggle was not for him, so he got on a plane and came back home, the wife nearly died. He is an assistant pastor and counsellor for his churn, that's all he does, all his responsibilities falls on his wife who is always begging Frds and relative for kids school fees and house rent. She is a private school teacher, her younger sister who leaves in Europe is a main helper. She doesn't work but will send money monthly fro
The benefits the government gives her for her kids upkeep.

While the man goes about town complaining of how he helped his friends dat are still in Dublin and how they have totally forgotten him.

salford:
my village people indeed. dem hold me for work seriously. Thank God they have released me sha..mid to late 2000 was tough....i remember how i cried the first time i burnt my palm with the big mac toaster..that shit hurt so bad or my dishwasher job at man united, i did that shift once before i ran..i have never seem so many plates in my life..... ..I miss the UK sha..

I remember a particular night shift at walmart. Everyone sat at my desk at lunch about 8 of us were engineers from different countries.. we joked about setting up our own consultancy inside walmart . Two of us moved on to security job and some other to care jobs. These jobs were heavenly compared to walmart jobs....

Eyes have seen despite being legal in these countries..I thank God sha cos i finally broke even...i cant imagine what ilego go through in these countries.

I love the Uk, but the weather is killing me, I have S.A.D , and Manchester doesn't help the conditions. Lol

Already booked a holiday Los Angeles in February and am sooooo looking forward to it

salford:
And you think 40k is bad. You are even lucky you have a job that pays that much...

And who told you jobs are in abundance overseas...lol
My friend with a msc in proj management from a UK uni applied to Mcdonald 7 times, yet he was rejected..despite that i helped pushed good reference on his behalf as i worked there at that time... This was after he could not get jobs in his profession. He eventually returned to Nigeria where he now works in an NGO.

In Canada, i have met graduates from Canadian Uni working in walmart as cashiers/stockers. Some cant even get jobs at all and are trapped with student loan debts running into thousanda of dollars.
I dont think you know how hard and low paying McD and walmart jobs are. Do you? I worked mcd in Uk, got my palm burnt by bread toaster on my occasions, walmart job when i came to Canada and broke my wrist lifting huge boxes and spent months visiting physios, labour job where i hit my thumb with a sledge hammer despite all my degrees from naija and the UK...Dont let me even get started with the ex pwc, mtns, nlng, doctors, accountants e.t.c that i know working shit jobs in Canada.. yet someone like you would get angry at me if i was your uncle and didnt send you money or help like in your thread...lol.

U can come abroad ooo..no one is gonna discourage you...but its also good to prepare your mind that the first 3-7 years would be tough "if you came in legally" so you need to have your mind prepared. If you come in illegally, that is even worse..Imo, it's good to let people know what they are getting into....
The positive vibe to it is that after the years of sacrifice if you can slug it out, then you shall reap the reward of abroad.

bro ur village pple no get chills oo

See accidents, Na only u dey the country?

Deliverance thingz , lol

helpyom:
Begars dey everywhr probably they are lazy to work my dear here in Nigeria people are damn ready to work am a lady and I work 11hrs a day for 6days in a week I receive salary not wages ask me how much #40,000 this is a hospital job that i don't even rest to have launch due to soo many Hmo's.

What am I saying you won't tell me I have were I can work with such strenght I wouldn't want to leave and save for future expensenses.

The fact is THERE ARE NO JOBS IN NIGERIA that's why most youths with life ambition try to move anybody discouraging anyone is pure wickedness.

Tnk u ,

40k a month, working 6days a week , I don't even want to imagine the conditions, atleast u have a job and u are well.

How about the disabled and jobless, can u imagine wat they going thru??

AreaFada2:
Bebe2,

To be honest it is not fashionable to be honest when dealing with our fellow Nigerians, especially if you live abroad. They start calling you enemy of progress.

I have actively discouraged Nigerians from coming to the West ANYHOW.

We know what we suffered back then. A close friend froze to death on the street, sleeping rough. It could have been me. Once money was exhausted, we had no place to sleep. His miserable death haunts me till today.

But when you tell people, they say "but you have made it now, you very fine now, it cannot be as bad as 9ja na, etc." I don't even know what "made it" mean in their imagination.

I always advice people to come as postgrad students, with enough money in their pockets. That way, even if they have to return home, the time wasn't wasted.

I have discouraged many social media "friends" from crossing Sahara desert with the help of a "sponsor" to Italy. Those who did not listen are paying off 30 to 50K Euros now doing prostitution. Some have been honest enough to say "I wish I listened to your advice".

Nobody is afraid of anyone. Many abroad just do not want others to make the mistake they made, either by abandoning their studies, travelling with anyhow documents, coming with tourist visa and overstaying, quitting a good job to travel abroad, etc.

An example: a cousin of mine worked for about 11 years in a first generation bank. He quit and came abroad. I just bumped into him one day. He jumped and hugged me. I did not recognise him right away, being tall & big guy now. He died here in diaspora a couple of years ago. He regretted his decision to travel abroad, despite having a wife and kids here.

A friend also quit a first generation bank job to travel. Me regretted it daily. He died of cancer here around 5 years back, leaving 4 kids behind.

Both lived abroad in regret, after quitting well paid in 9ja. Those of us who left as teenagers took it more our stride, after the difficult first few years.

People should be wee informed before travelling. Not just anyhow, to any destination believing you can make huge money anywhere abroad.

We have ruined our name enough abroad: scam/faud, drug trafficking, prostitution, etc. Mostly due to unplanned travelling out.

I see ur point

So sorry about ur relatives that died, so sad.

Pidgin2:
You can only tell someone who hasn't travelled out before that there are no beggars abroad, as for me, I saw poor beggars with their children begging for food to eat.

Why are you not feeling for the thousands of beggars and drug addiction abroad? I understand your empathy but even where you live, beggars and lonely old people who can't afford heating are everywhere there


So because of one picture, everyone in Nigeria is now an animal abi?

Am not replying because of u but for others who will read this.

U have no advantage over me on experience both outside and inside Nigeria.

I left naija wen I was 24, and have been coming back to naija twice a year. I see wats on ground.

To be able to heal, u need to first admit u are ill.

As if I saw this coming,

https://www.nairaland.com/3767038/dear-nigerians-diaspora-wickedness-selfishness/1#56001290

The most painful thing is dat pple are in denial.

Let's scream and shout it, this country is terrible,
Things are too backwards. And everyone is suffering, despite some thinking they are big fish, we all use same roads, same holdup, same air pollution.

Something drastic needs to happen.

Pidgin2:
Are there no charity homes in the UK and is everyone able to pay their medical bills there, then who are those people who beg for coins while sitting on cartons in freezing cold weather and those who search people's dustbins for anything they can take over there?

If your relatives are in the above situation here, you can actually help them without ranting about it consistently on social media. You can register for their medical insurance per year at N30K, if you can help one person close to you it is something.

Let me handle ur first paragraph, some of those pple have mental issues and substance abuse. There are hostels located around city centres for them to sleep, in cold weathers the staffs will take a mini bus to the streets and beg those pple to come to the hostel and sleep.

But because they are not a danger to others , the government can't bundle them to a psychiatric unit.

2nd paragraph, none of my relatives are in that condition I described. But thousands of pple are, and I feel for them not because I know them but they are humans like u and I.

There is a parable in my place that says, the chickens never look happy wen birds are being roasted. But it's different now, on this same forum yesterday, there was a picture of a baby lying on the ground, some thot he/she was sleeping others thot dead, there were over 50 pple there, nothing was done by any one of them they just took pictures and made videos. That doesn't even happen in the animal kingdom. Watch animal planet and u will understand.

Pls tell me again about Nigeria

queendoreez:
bebe2, bless your heart for this post.

I know a lot of people who discourage people from moving abroad. Recently i had a chat with 1 of my friends, he's in Singapore, and i discussed with him about migrating abroad, and he was like "You can't make it abroad", "taxes are killing us here", "bills are too much here" etceteras. But the next minute, he's like "I have just built a student hostel off campus in FUTO", "I just wired 300k to my mum last week", "I wire 200k to my girlfriend in Nigeria every week for her make-up" etceteras.

Well, i have made up my mind to migrate out of this "hell" called Nigeria. I have filed in my papers, waiting for my permits. And the last thing that will happen to me is to get discouraged by any Nigerian in diaspora.

Nigerians in diaspora, make una fear God!!!

U see life? But he get money take pay the taxes and bills abi?

U know one person on this forum once said, America is difficult, some pple have two or three jobs just to survive
And so flaming what? Pple in naija are looking for half job.

Diasporans make una fear God ooo

justwise:
If you don't know how to get anybody to western countries legally or illegally then why are you calling people who give their opinion based on experience 'wickedness'?

Ask Syrians and afghans how they get to Europe,
There is war and famine in Nigeria.

I only said don't discourage pple by exaggerating,
It's all over this forum.

Someone said he married a German citizen and was asking for ways to process his papers out of the country, go and see the comments he got.

Dat was the trigger behind this post.

Pidgin2:
Do you know me, how can you say you live in Nigeria more than me?

I recently welcomed someone from the UK (a relative) who came around after over five years since he came last and he was so impressed with Naija, taking pictures every minute and sending to people there.


What he marveled at was the change in landscape and the fast pace of developmental projects in Lagos, he did things like paid visits to tourist centers which we've always had but I never took the time to see, and he is making plans to relocate already so what do you think you are talking about?

Jesu

U just proved my point.

Next time he comes tell him to look for a charity/foundation and help out for a couple of hours, or go to a hospital and pay for one persons bill dat is being held for none payment, or go to a govt primary school and buy uniforms for ten kids with the worst uniforms, should I continue??

Don't make it seem like self centredness runs in ur blood ooo, it's not nice

Amoto94:
bebe2 justwise pose a challenge to you, are you ready to do as he's said?

No sir/ma

Pidgin2:
Define hell, you don't live here yet you say all this nonsense. Smh

I live in Nigeria more than u do?

It's like living in a dirty house , after some time u don't see anymore, but someone who hasn't been to ur place before will come in and immediately see all the dirts.

justwise:
@bebe2 you live here in the UK right?

This is what i want you to do..start a thread in this section and invite any Nigerian interested in moving to the UK to live and work then guild them on how to do it LEGITIMATELY

I promise to moderate that thread so that it will not be derailed.

These are the conditions:

1. It shouldn't be used to encourage people to circumvent immigration rules

2. No dropping of contact details or 'pm me for further details'.

3. No agency discussion.


Deal?

Disclaimer: am not an agent, neither do I know of how to get pple to western countries LEGITIMATELY nor ILLEGITIMATELY

But my opinion is , if u find the current state of Nigeria unbearable, and u want to leave the country pls do so by any means u can.

I do not advise going to Europe by land, only because the route is saturated, there are too many pple using and it's unsafe.

salford:
I dont discourage people to migrate especially if they are under some dire situation.
If you have a good job plus career in naija, can afford good hospitals, live well, afford holidays overseas e.t.c then they might want to consider d "abroad" option well. The "abroad" could be a career suicide at times.

Obviously dat will be stupid.

But am talking the average Nigerian dat no hope and no connection, whose mum sells akamu and dad stands on the road waiting for day labour, they live in a single room with 5 other kids?

TrapQueen77:
Coz that's wat the reality & not only Nigerians are talking like that..ppol abroad discourage others to go abroad due to the bad experiences they've encountered..

But here is wat i can say..don't let these discouragements stop u from reaching ur dreams to go abroad...ur experience may be different from the others.

Don't lose hope & juz keep going..

Bro bad experience dey everywhere,

Abroad own there is hope atleast. Naija can be hopeless oo

I have seen pple born , raised and died in abject porverty.

bignero:
Why you talking like this bikonu?

Why take sides and so judgementally?

You know husband and wife have issues...and if he's the one raising the kids, isn't it the judge that deemed it appropriate to give the children to the dad..if indeed their with their dad..after all its their mother that fought for

U know nothing yet ur here shouting...Make belle run joor

Have u not been following the story??

U know the system worked against her because of her status.

She doesn't even have visitation, wat could she have done so bad?

Pidgin2:
Nice thread but Nigeria is not a difficult place to live in. Those who want to migrate can do so legitimately and anyone seeking to stay shouldn't be made to feel like he or she is living in hell because it isn't true. Good thread

Dats because u selfish, for u it's easy, for me it was very easy , but for lots of pple in my community it was hell. And for lots of pple today, it is hell.

Badgers14:
My sister abeg calm down. I am happy for you that you Live Abroad and wish well for our folks back home.

BUT, I wouldn't want to count myself in as one of those that discourages potential travellers. I just tell them the truth and again, the truth hurts.

Most of the people that fire all those questions to "abroadians" want to run away from Nigeria and go and "hussle". Many don't mind walking or hiding in a cargo plane.

My dear, reason this, how many of those potential travellers have their green card or blue card handy?

I myself didn't immigrate in a cunny cunny way and am not sure how the people that came thru that way survive the ordeal, no one will never ever tell you the true story.

So Crucify me if i am wrong my dear, but i do tell them "pomp and plain" . Travelling outside Nigeria is not too difficult, Surviving outside Nigeria is.

If someone have the right document, they dont usually bother anyone but the ones that wants to fly out by all means could blow off your whatsapp.

While i understand there plights in Nigeria, I have also seen with my "2 naked eyes" the plights illegal immigrants go through in the U.S and my sister, i am not sure which one is safer. Again with Trump and his unknown never straightforward agenda , his administration is even deporting people protected by DACA.

Lastly, I do not discourage them, but i tell them truth. If they still want to come, bless their heart but I don't know how i can help them if they dont have the right documents.

Cheers!

I totally understand u,

But I do think for some pple traveling could be the only way out.

Now , I don't live in the USA so I can't tell wat illegals go through but in the uk they can get a job not legally though, and the smart ones will work 80 hrs a week quickly buy a small plot , build a one goat for their family back home . And u know once accommodation is settled , life is much easier anywhere in the world.

Getting in illegally does not mean one will never be legal. Once u are in u start to walk the ropes to settlement like millions of illegals before u.

This is getting annoying , how come each time a person is asking for directions on how to travel abroad most pple in diaspora will be discouraging the person.

If it's dat terrible why are u still there?

You enjoy the benefits of living in an organised society, knowing fully well that naija is a difficult place to live.

Are u scared of the competition the new immigrants will bring?

Nigerians in diaspora , what exactly are u afraid off??

Foxyn:
who gave you 15 likes on your dp? are they mad?

Lol dat wasn't my dp then

Foxyn:
the sign is clear.

this means that the witches are trying to destroy your house spiritually though it's happening physically for you to see.


now here's what you need to do, buy insects powder, pour inside the lines and cement it.

by 12:00am, you wake up and pray on it. then finalize the prayer by pouring an olive oil on where you cemented it

count yourself a free man

go and sin no more

67 likes

Is this a Joke??

msbyao:
I don't want to share any personal stories on the forum just yet, but medication and supplementation are different. I am strongly against Medications except it is absolutely necessary.

Tnk u , I was shocked to see they are medicating him.