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BrabusNG:
Most of my clients are here. I doubt 2 people can come out and say they paid over 15m for their carcass and those two knew the size of their project and the materials used.

I won’t be able to share those projects though but if you seek, you shall find. Just dig.

How much do you think developers pay per unit?

Let’s not go into this tho.

by carcass u mean from foundation to being roofed?

i would have prefered apartments but the estate doesnt allow so i will try and squeeze 4 terraced of 2bedroom each into my 600sqm land. the land was expensive so i will make full use of every angle. its for investment purpose.

AngelicBeing:
l also have some real Estate investment within that Opic axis but the problem with that area is the roads, that igbesa / sokoto road and the one that comes from Mile2 Agbara axis is terrible

if and only if Ogun state government addresses the roads issues within that axis it will be fine and it will drive the value of real estate investment up and that location has over 150 companies surrounding the axis, ranging from banks, University, polytechnic, flour mill, smitkline beecham, nestle foods, igbesa / Chinese free Zone port and several small and medium scale businesses but yet with terrible bad roads

Winners Chapel of Oyedepo wanted to fix the roads from Agbara estate to Otta but Ogun state government wanted the cash to be given to them and the church backed off because the governor will use the money to eat amala and bokoto, does Ogun state have a Governor

i remember when they proposed that 8 lane to badagry i was jumping joy, but like all things naija it never saw the light of day.

BrabusNG:


Foundation of what size of building are we talking about?

Four years ago, I did thecarcass of most of my projects in Lekki with 10 - 15m

The most expensive carcass is about N20m and the footprint is almost a full plot of land.

hm, but people here will tell you foundation in lekki is billions of naira?
even a friend that built in lekki county said foundation alone was almost 10mil.
people say all sorts, which doesnt help inexperienced people like me

BrabusNG:
You’d spent about same amount building in both location but one gives higher ROI than the other.

lekki its far more expensive o, the foundation alone can cost 10,illion

EgunMogaji2:
Humble apologies but this is not my forte Madam.

no worries,
tnk u

mrsteel:
Guess estimate is not always accurate, but something around 10m - 12m since it is a whole structure. Just that building materials keep increasing on a daily basis these days. U have been contemplating whether to continue with this build, if your mind no catch am, it is best u leave it.

thanks for dat,
i can easily use dat money to start of my land in abraham adesanya.
that opic land has been there for over 8yrs and it feels like a waste.
but no need throwing good money after bad

bebe2:
here is the architect drawing.

professionals in the house pls can you give a rough estimate of how much it will take to
complete this rental property.
its a very dry land .

i want standard finishing , nothing too fancy.
the bed room size are 12 by 11 and the living rooms are 16 by 14.

@ericko2k2 @rotecch77, @spyder880, @egunmogaji and others plssss i need your input
as this will help me decide if to build it or concentrate on other projects.

p.s : the property already has soak away, borehole and an over head tank.

thanks

@ericko2k2 @rotecch77, @spyder880, @egunmogaji and others plssss i need your input
as this will help me decide if to build it or concentrate on other projects.

am on my knees, please. i know u wont have the exact but a loose estimate will give me a guide.

[quote author=mrsteel post=94142481]Request for d PDF copy of d drawings from ur architect & send it to anyone that wish to help u with d estimate.

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am not in nigeria at the moment

vickzie:
I can't find the original question but I think you are asking for septic tank/ soak away size/ cost?

no, am asking for estimate of the complete build.
the property already has soak away and borehole.

vickzie:
this part of the drawing is likely to be copy and paste, might be wrong though. available floor space and usage rate would determine.

honestly i dont understand that page, am hoping some here can explain.
i have message the architect and waiting for a reply.

BrabusNG:
My 2 bed was converted to a crèche. I told my agent “I’d rather use the flat for a school than have someone occupy my flats for 365 days and pay me meagre 300k (less than N1,000 per day.”

That’s just me by the way and the decision was based on the value attracted at the location where the project was done.

On the flip side, I did a multi-dwell mini flats project for a client in 2014. He has recouped all his investment as at today.
It’s 2 unit of 2 bed and 2 unit of 1 bed. 1 bed goes for 500k and 2 bed was 750k. It has all the features and conveniences.

thats my biggest dilemma in this project. the location is not very populated and i fear i might not be able to recoup my money in a long time hence i need an estimate before i embark on this project.

i also have a 600sqm land in Abraham adesanya, i rather concentrate on building that for better returns.

boay:
I can't see the dimensions on the drawings from the image, I would have given you a rough estimate.

By the way, will you execute it through direct labour?

not sure if i have that, but does this help??

it will be direct labour

adanny01:
Madam, don't listen to what people say when you are doing the right thing.

Put yourself in a 2 bedroom flat, would you rather have a visitor in your bedroom to use your restroom or in your 1wc bathroom?

If the trend is having a visitors toilet, would you risk not having one.

My uncle has 2 properties, one has 6 units of 2bedroom flats and 2 units of 1bedroom flat while the other has 8units of 2bedroom flats. Out of the 14 2bedroom flats, only 3 have been occupied consecutively in the last 3 years. Of course all units have 1 wc and bathroom.

So even though they are 2 bedroom, the number of toilets is the main attraction. The mistake is considering his property a 2 bedroom with a 2 bedroom price tag that is same as the ones ensuite.

Trust me you don't wanna put your property at a disadvantage. 11 units of my uncle have been empty for over 2yrs now.

The trend is very clear.

wow, thats an eye opener.
its obviously a tenants market in nigeria.

80pc of 2 bedroom flats in the uk only have 1 toilet and bathroom.

EgunMogaji2:
My 1 bedroom flats have 2WC and the 2 bedrooms have 3WC.

Tenants are humans too

But seriously this should be expected based on the clientele I hope to attract.

am not happy with the 3WC in my plan, i think its an overkill. how can you be renting a 2 bedroom flat
for 300k and be looking for masters ensuite and separate toilet for visitor?

michlins:
This is a beautiful door but going by the specifications, it's no bullet proof unless there's something they are not telling us.

Bullet will pierce through anything less than 3mm talk more of 1.2mm which I know is what I use to make my 18k doors. If doubt, kindly test with your life.

Oga brabus has worked with 3mm pan and I don't think he will risk his life testing the bullet proof. Before you come for my head, kindly familiarize yourself with iron guage. If you need bullet proof something, you need at least 5mm thick pan

they using proof doors now? wow

EgunMogaji2:
The privacy issue that’s a concern for some can be resolved by using Clerestory Windows. Though I think the concern is exaggerated.

that looks good, but how will the occupant open the window as its abit high.

although i want a big window for the toilet and bathroom becos i dont like the small windows
normally used in nigeria homes.

any idea on the cost of this project? that will determine if i build or sell the land as the location is not all that.

raymondFirstborn:
Bebe2

I can help with the cost breakdown of your project.

Can you send the plan to me on Whatsapp.
09056082348(call & WhatsApp)
raymondfubara@gmail.com

i dont have it on whatsapp, got it via email.
could you put it here so other people can benefit from it?
tnks

vickzie:
I actually live in a terraced house and I share a party wall with my neighbor, and I don't hear jack. what you have here is open windows less than 1m apart. I can actually borrow charger from the other occupant just by stretching my hand from the window.

only charger?

maybe we could make it wider?
or wat do u suggest?

vickzie:
if I'm the occupant of these rooms, I'd feel uncomfortable knowing that my neighbor can peep and listen to everything I do. imagine having a randy neighbor that brings home screamers. it's now a battle between cross ventilation and privacy, I'd choose privacy cos I can install AC. close up those windows.

what if u live in a terraced house that shares a wall?

here is the architect drawing.

professionals in the house pls can you give a rough estimate of how much it will take to
complete this rental property.
its a very dry land .

i want standard finishing , nothing too fancy.
the bed room size are 12 by 11 and the living rooms are 16 by 14.

@ericko2k2 @rotecch77, @spyder880, @egunmogaji and others plssss i need your input
as this will help me decide if to build it or concentrate on other projects.

p.s : the property already has soak away, borehole and an over head tank.

thanks

Abolarin91:
All spaces should be well dimension to scale, all these spaces you sketch out(and over all shape)will change when drafted with cad/put to scale.
My point is; allow your architect to draft it out and post it here for correction, just plan alone ma.

that was the initial sketch from my architect.

i will upload the final one now

Abolarin91:
The open space where the 4 rooms and toilet windows are facing, how do you intend to ventilate this spaces? The rooms using that toilets will be smelly...
Moreover, this plan is not properly dimension, proper design will change everything.

what do u mean by dimension? lay out or sized?

mrsteel:
This plan is looking clumsy
That open space has a roof i presume?
Air circulation may not be enough to control the smell coming out of d WC. The area marked in red line.

good point on the ventilation aspect, could this be resolved by having bigger toilet windows?
but water system toilet systems dont smell

hello all
here is the plan for my proposed build at opic estate.
its a 4 nos of 2bedroom flats. is there any amendment that could be made?

fixed some useless wallpaper. i had to spend 60k to remove it replaster and repaint the apartment

@segzy14 pls have u seen the pics i sent u?

https://www.nairaland.com/2239130/plan-6-flat-2-bedroom#32405588

segzy14:

Please I would a sketch of the land, both useable and un-useable space.

the second pic is the full land, the useable 30by30 is right behind the house on the left.
does that help?

https://www.nairaland.com/2239130/plan-6-flat-2-bedroom#32405588

segzy14:

I will need the survey plan or the size of the land to start with.

land size is 100 by 108, but cant use 30by30 of it so the project could an L shape

gd evening all

@rotecch77 and @segzy14 glad u both still active on this forum.

i have a piece of land in agbara ogun state that i have abandoned for years,
upon enquiry , we found out a 2bedroom flat could rent for upto 250k in that area, so we decided to put a building.

my question now is approximately how much will it cost to build a low cost block of flats consisting of 3 flats each with 2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen i bathroom with toilet and a visitors toilet.

the land already has a soakaway, and borehole.
any ideas of how i could also achieve this with as little money as possible is welcomed.

tnks

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CsRockefeller:
The routes will be chosen by the driver.

Let me be sincere with you, I don't have first hand information but I've heard from credible sources that the state government is planning a phased removal of these buses like they recently did with Keke Marwa.

Ambode bought lots of buses (high capacity and low capacity). The high capacity (about 300) has already been rolled out, rumor has it that the small capacity will be rolled out this year.

One thing I'm certain is that these buses are already on ground, where they are and when they plan to roll them out? I don't know.

Seeing what they did to Gokada, Keke and even Uber, I will advice that you make more consultations before proceeding so that you don't make heavy loss in such a short period.

I heard dat before,thats why am getting cold feet
have to look for another business then

Wizzy11111:
Let me share one out of 5 idea wey dey available with u . But u will need more than 10m for this.

1.Whenever u are in Nigeria come to Abuja, buy a genuine land around uniabuja campus gwagwalada, I repeat Abeg geuniue land.
2. look for a good architect and build just 10room and palour self con with latest infrastructure.
3. House rent for room and palour selfcon in this area ranges from 220-250k yearly depending on the infrastructure....

dat sounds good
but how much is a plot of land there?
and how do u get a genuine land in the scam capital of Nigeria?