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Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:37pm On Jun 25, 2019
reservd:

So those that moved in, who will they pay to when their rent expires? Can't the fraudsters be tracked down by then abi na automatic free accommodation henceforth for the lucky ones
Exactly, I am very sure they will contact those who moved in but that might be in a year's time but hopefully before then they would be behind bars by God's Grace! They caused so many of us so much pains.

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Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:35pm On Jun 25, 2019
Carlyboi:
To be candid babe those fraudsters if they’re still in town will jet out in max 3 days,we are are talking bout 200 people paying a minimum of 200k babe that’s 40m at least you will need serious luck to catch them to be candid....if they don’t abscond they must have an insane kinda backup to be so confident so you won’t be able to trust them easily.....but if they don’t and they’re still in Lagos they must be the dumbest fraudsters you can’t even get a visa on arrival in rwanda while loads of African countries and the Caribbean being the same in other words this is a well thought out fraud-scheme and a well thought out plan....You will need a lot of support but if they’re still in town they can be easily tracked or smoked out and if they state government gets involved that would be your best bet as they can take it seriously...the police can be easily influenced with money even with their own involved and EFCC can only arrest or prosecute a suspect they can locate or reach if not they’re mostly useless in your situation....I just hope the Mr hazmat helps you guys on this cos to be frank with you it’s only serious help from that kinda level that can help you get justice and recover your money..........
As in ehn....and from God as well. We have all been cooperative so far, and we keep coming out in masses together. Imagine most of us, we either look for money to renew the current place we are now or look for somewhere else...in this naija economy.

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Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:26pm On Jun 25, 2019
Johnkay01:
This is the house
yes cry cry cry cry cry cry cry
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:25pm On Jun 25, 2019
vivalavida:
Go and lock that house with your own padlock

On the expiration of the 8th day,come with it own key and they should come with their own key

Forget about that cleaning BS
I posted that last week, the 8 days is passed already...they ran off last friday cry cry cry cry cry
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:24pm On Jun 25, 2019
Opus85:


The truth here is that, there is 50-50 chance of getting your money but it will still cost you money. Even if you get the road side agent, he can only sign agreement to pay by installment. the cost implication of arresting him is another thing. tracking his phone line is another cost, going to police regularly is another cost.

those developers use the fraud money to go and build another site and continue the trend. this is what many of them do and it is usually mini flats they build because it is hot cake and easy for people to rent.
We have created a WhatsApp group, we are about 120 on the group and still got a second group for another set of people, as most people just discovered the fraud today....we are looking at over 200 victims. So we are trying to contribute money to get justice and our money back.

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Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:22pm On Jun 25, 2019
mykorheya:


Collect the keys or request for ur money. Let them fix d minor issues while u r packing in.
It's over now....I posted that comment last week, well I tried but I wasn't listened to, so now they are gone with our money. They ran off on Friday night.
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:18pm On Jun 25, 2019
Opus85:
dear all,

never go for a house being owned by a developer. many of them are fraudsters. i can give many examples i know of, don't be surprised that the agent might not know about the fraud. many of the prospective tenants came through agents, so many of those agents dont know about the fraud.
many of the agents are after their fee and so dont bother to investigate and open up to their clients on prospective properties. only a God fearing or well recognized estate firm that will tell you the truth because of their reputations.

always go through a registered and recognised estate firm.
In this case, the agent is very much aware...he ran off too and his name isn't even on the list of all the agents association club or something in Ketu.
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:16pm On Jun 25, 2019
Maxymilliano:


A colleague of mine in the office also fell for same fraudster, Tunde Adewale .. He paid 240k already and over a 100 victims are involved.
Kai imagine....the man must be in millions now.
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:15pm On Jun 25, 2019
SocialJustice:
Who gave you the landlord's number?
The person who paid, said he saw his number on a poster just by the road side....terrible mistake!!!

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Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:14pm On Jun 25, 2019
bts1:


I think something is not right, did you see or talk with the owner of the property before paying to the agent. next time don't pay to the agent but rather pay to the owner of the property or on he/she(the owner) instruction

Thanks
They were like 10 in numbers staying on that new building and we didn't pay to the agent directly but to the Alhaji who claimed to be the owner of the property.....
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:12pm On Jun 25, 2019
Opus85:
imagine, before i could read this and gave my former advice, you are confirming him to be fraud already. i wish i saw your post earlier than now, would have advised you to collect your money without hesitation.

smh!

This is the painful part, because I had the opportunity to get my money back but the person who paid kept defending them....he is even more disappointed than I am now.
Celebrities / Re: DJ City And Ciphasounds Wizkid - Drake Comment: Nigerians Storm Their Instagram by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:09pm On Jun 25, 2019
eWyse:


Dammit... So sorry dear, just saw the thread cry

They will definitely be brought to book!!!
Please don't take it to heart and remain positive. It is well
Thank you so much.....never believed i'd be in this situation.
Properties / Re: Property Fraud! How Do We Resolve This Issue?! by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:00pm On Jun 25, 2019
dominique:


Wow!!! Something has to be done, they must be stopped before more people are duped
Exactly, I have their pics on my thread, someone else also uploaded a video that showed the face of the main man who collected all payments. The funniest part is, it seems they have been arrested once but probably released again and the business continues.
Properties / Re: Property Fraud! How Do We Resolve This Issue?! by BecaciaBarbie(f): 1:39pm On Jun 25, 2019
herakles:
A friend of mine was recently duped. He rented an apartment in a building under construction somewhere in ketu early this year. He was given receipts, and tenancy agreement after he made payment and told to come back around ending of April this year as the building project is expected to be completed by then.

After weeks of delay in completion of the building project, he was finally given a date to move into the new apartment as the building project will be ready by the said date. However, my friend discovered to his dismay that the apartment has been rented out to 6 other people, and someone else has already moved in (claiming to be the real tenant of the apartment). This issue did not only affect my friend, but other apartments in the house had multiple people with receipts and tenancy agreements.

My friend tried contacting the owner of the house, the property developers, and the agent that directed him there. But all numbers are switched off, and the individuals are in the wind.

I would like to know what my friend can do concerning this, as he does not believe in the police. What course of action should he take to seek redress and get his money back in the shortest possible time. He is about to become homeless.


PS: I am not the person cool

cc: lawyer, lalasticlala, Seun, Dominique, mynd44
I am a victim too and this is so devastating.... cry cry
Properties / Re: Property Fraud! How Do We Resolve This Issue?! by BecaciaBarbie(f): 1:36pm On Jun 25, 2019
dominique:
@Becaciabarbie, it could be the same fraudulent agent you're talking about
BIG YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 1:00pm On Jun 25, 2019
Acidosis:

Alright dear. We should talk/meet one of these days
Yes sure we will...thanks a lot.

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Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 12:15pm On Jun 25, 2019
Acidosis:

Ewo!

It's only a matter of time sha, just keep evidences of payments and conversations intact. If I may ask, how did you meet the agent? Online?
Not online oooo
Celebrities / Re: DJ City And Ciphasounds Wizkid - Drake Comment: Nigerians Storm Their Instagram by BecaciaBarbie(f): 11:36am On Jun 25, 2019
Oluwasaeon:

Eyaah. Sorry, don't cry
Thanks a lot, no time to cry as my tears are dried up sef.....just looking for a way out fast, praying constantly, following up for justice and also praying they get caught soon as many of us, our rents fee in our current location has expired or will expire soon.
Celebrities / Re: DJ City And Ciphasounds Wizkid - Drake Comment: Nigerians Storm Their Instagram by BecaciaBarbie(f): 11:33am On Jun 25, 2019
eWyse:


260k? shocked
Recover from who? How? undecided
Yes oooo.....by one agent in ketu and not just me about 170 prospective tenants, who even paid up to 400k. I actually created a thread on it when I was being suspicious of them, I also uploaded their pics.
Celebrities / Re: DJ City And Ciphasounds Wizkid - Drake Comment: Nigerians Storm Their Instagram by BecaciaBarbie(f): 11:31am On Jun 25, 2019
Oluwasaeon:

Pls which area did this happen ?
Ketu Alapere, Elebiju area in Lagos State... cry cry cry cry cry cry
Celebrities / Re: DJ City And Ciphasounds Wizkid - Drake Comment: Nigerians Storm Their Instagram by BecaciaBarbie(f): 11:27am On Jun 25, 2019
Oluwasaeon:

I just saw the thread. Sorry.
The last guy looks like the Pencil guy they killed in Ikorodu
When was that? because they flee recently, just last Friday. I wished I could even see him right now....he knew I know he is a fraudster but also knows there was no evidence against him yet, so he never liked me showing up there...infact, the day they ran away, I was on my way to work when my spirit told me to go there fast, upon getting there he saw me passed in front of the house, because I came there to peep and monitor them. He then came out fast to stop me from entering the compound cry cry cry cry cry
Celebrities / Re: DJ City And Ciphasounds Wizkid - Drake Comment: Nigerians Storm Their Instagram by BecaciaBarbie(f): 11:20am On Jun 25, 2019
Oluwasaeon:

Ahh how come
Long story, but I created a thread on it already....people are wicked sha!!! the man and his gang defrauded over 170 prospective tenants!!!!
Celebrities / Re: DJ City And Ciphasounds Wizkid - Drake Comment: Nigerians Storm Their Instagram by BecaciaBarbie(f): 11:02am On Jun 25, 2019
Oluwasaeon:

Were you scammed ?
Yes, big time!!!! by one house agent cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry.
Celebrities / Re: DJ City And Ciphasounds Wizkid - Drake Comment: Nigerians Storm Their Instagram by BecaciaBarbie(f): 10:52am On Jun 25, 2019
Some people get time oooo...when I am thinking of how to recover my 260k.....kaiii!!!

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Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 10:37am On Jun 25, 2019
Acidosis:


Seriously?! shocked shocked shocked These guys are hardened criminal. I hope the bank would do something very quickly with the accounts. Justice should also come with full refund.
We have bankers among us and they told us, all their accounts have been cleared as these criminals withdrew 4 times 2 days ago.
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 10:36am On Jun 25, 2019
bassdow:



Sealing the Building would be Good BUT

it can be by-Passed by those criminals.

All they need do is send someOne else to come forward claiming ownership of the building and not Aware of what happened.

might even claim to have traveled to far location and never instructed anyOne to rent it Out or know anyOne who might have done this.

At the end of the day, conclusion might end up being the Fraudsters used SomeOne's else Property to Perpetuate a crime without Owner's knowledge.

Be weary of anyOne trying to Be Close to You at this stage even if they look lost and confused and needing you to carry Him/Her along.

You might find yourself Borading a Bus/Bike or Trekking with SomeOne whom you think is also a Victim.
There're several ways to getting Close to SomeOne.

So I just Hope they are Caught.
Wow this is true! But I hope not really, I hope they won't come up with this annoying idea! People's accommodation are at Stake! Some people even came with their luggage yesterday thinking, they will just collect key and move in, as their current accommodation rent has expired. My prayer is we get this sorted out fast before it gets to the point of people giving up.

You are right about the trust issue, because I found out one of the agents I spoke with a while ago about getting an apartment, though a different one he is as well on the whatsapp group... Hummm.
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 9:56pm On Jun 24, 2019
bassdow:


How sure are you the Criminal isn't going to be One of Them
Update!

I met with some other victims today and to my greatest surprise we were about 170 victims and more are still coming as the Alhaji gave out 25th of June as the official date of moving in, so some are still unaware... I guess we should be around 200 or more in numbers. We converged at the house in question, then moved to Alausa where we protested till we spoke with the Deputy Governor of Lagos state-Mr Hamzat. This isn't the end, but for security purpose I won't reveal our other plans here but I'll keep you updated as we execute these plans by God's Grace.

I still wonder how one or a group of persons can conveniently defraud so many people without one tiny conscience? Even the police men at the State house were shocked! People's hard earned money collected in deceit...funniest part is, we have a police woman among us lol she is taking it up seriously! Those people are heartless really!!!!

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Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 8:59pm On Jun 23, 2019
bassdow:






If You're are in Quick need of that Money, na Sorry I go tell You as that isn't going to be possible anytime soon.
so if your Rent is about to exPire, better start gathering another Money to either ReNew OR ReLocate.

My Comment above already to you all.

Now is the Hot Period, they are laying Low and Security Conscious. Even a Call from their Dear Mama might not be enough for them to show-up.

Allow them Cool down, get relaxed and catch them when their Defense is low. Now is not the Right time because they know they being Chased.
Some might even Travel outside the State where the Crime was committed BUT it's just so things can cool down.

What you should be doing now is Gathering InTel on them NOT trying to catch them.

Be Careful of those Among You all crying of being Defrauded as not all of You might be a Victim. You might think You all are in same Boat not knowing Some are Parading as Victims just so they are able to get First-Hand Intel on whatever steps you Victims are taking.

As for the Person whose Account You Paid into being called an Alhaji, I believe they know the Word Alhaji is synonymous to being Connected & Wealthy + Trust-Worthy hence you wouldn't want to look so deep into anything. Just like you wouldn't ask an Oba so much Questions if doing a Transaction with an Oba.

Like already said, now should be InTel Gathering stage and be sure no Intel you gather would raise a red flag for them to know They're being investigated.

After you have enough information on them, just LayLow waiting for them to come out of Hiding and that's when they Get caught.

Depending on how Sophisticated they are AND how much total they Stole from their Victims, it might not be so easy catching them on time.







UPDATE
I replied without reading your entire response above BUT after I posted this response, was when I saw this part of your Comment I was told the man is communicating with someone among us Am only pointing it out so you know How very Important it is for you to work alone on this. trust Yourself alone.

Even if you involve a Police not already involved now, there's no telling they wouldn't switch sides later; Money is very Powerful except you're stupid like me.
Infact, I have made a screenshot of your advice to remind myself everyday. Trust is actually the main issue now just as you stated in your comment, and it is even almost causing unnecessary quarels among some of the victims as people are holding back valid info. Thank you very much. I'll keep on updating you how this whole issue and lastly, we are planning to go to Alausa & EFCC tomorrow file a complaint, hopefully something good will come out of this, as we want them to seal up that building.
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 4:10pm On Jun 23, 2019
Acidosis:


Okay, great. Do you think your bank can do anything about the transaction? And yes, upload his phone number. What's his location in Lagos and name?
Yes I have all these details....

His account details are: 0107331493 TUNDE ADEWALE DIAMOND

His phone number : 08029657993

I don't have this particular man's pic, but he was the one we made transfer to and he claimed to be an Alhaji. .
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 4:03pm On Jun 23, 2019
bassdow:


Took My time going through the Entire thread and to be Honest, just the first Line on the same page already told Me all I needed to Know.

That's because am not just Smart BUT do have a Criminal inStinct (just that I don't use it for evil.)

Well the deed already has been done.

As for not being Listened to, let me make a Guess - You're a Lady and the Person who made the Payment is a Man. probably relationship between you both is Marriage (or you're still dating).
If am Right, then it's African Mentality of not listening to WoMen especially since most Males see them as not just at the Lower-Chain BUT to be troublesome so much they easily can take concerns where there's nothing to worry about.

From the start, you Guys already made a mistake (Making Payment and listening to such Silly ExCuse)


BUT to Solve this problem is very simple BUT going the Route you all are doing now means they Might never be caught.

There are Several Ways of apprehending a Criminal but for Security safe (don't want to expose lots of tactics), would list the Easiest Least Way :

When you commit a crime and things goes Side-ways, you already know you're being hunted hence the Criminal(s) would lie low while also avoiding lot's of means to get caught

1. How sure are You few the Criminal(s) aren't a member on Nairaland. Major reason I can't expose much here.
2. You have His/Her Picx and they made it a lot of Big deal to ensure you no longer have it. That should have given you enough reason to Act Immediately. Thank God you're Alive sha.
3. You have account numbers and possibly BVN and few other details if provided by the bank. Hopefully the bank account isn't a Business Account else no much Luck.
4. AnyOne planning a Crime (especially of such Magnitude) would Lay a Good Foundation and those involves using UnTraceAble details and leaving little or no Paper Trails.
5. They know they're being Chased hence are on the Run Working against most of the Actions The VICTIM is using. They might evn be Smarter than the VICTIM sef.
6. According to the Law, you're to report to Nearest Police in same Jurisdiction where the Event occurred BUT then, that isn't always GOOD as the system is highly Corrupt hence there might be insiders who could get things ComPromised.
7. The Criminal(s) might be able to Predict your next Moves BUT that depends on how Smart they ARE in relative to How Smart/Dumb you are.

I could go On and On BUT to Catch a Criminal, you need to be UnPreDictAble .


My Simple and Honest Suggestion is to do the following.

Make a Report at the Police Station (just so it's on reCord). After that, ForGet about the Entire InCident (BUT continue doing Silent Findings Behind the Scene) BUT that's just for a while to allow the Criminal(s) enough time THINK they have gotten away and Relax and come Out of hiding.

After then, You should have enough InTel to be atleast 93% sure you've got them, then work towards catching the entire team OR atleast one of them.

The Police can work BUT shouldn't always be Trusted.

If you must work with the Police, ensure it's a Police not in same Jurisdiction (in-fact to be on safe side, let it be One far away with as Little team as Possible. The Small the Search team, the Better) and should work UnDerCover so even the Police wouldn't know what's happening. Now these would cost MONEY bBUT if you have an agreement with DPO (which isn't difficult), you can spend a lot Less Money and they GET paid when the Criminals are finally Caught. That's how the Police work - they take a Percentage of ReCovered Funds.


Trying to catch the Criminal(s) now may not always be the best Option as this is the Hot Period they know to Lay Low.

ReLax now and Catch them when their Guards are Down.

Sorry for the Long Write-Up.

Bye for now
Wooooooow I really don't need to go into details with you, you know everything already!!!! I am really wowed.

Thanks for this advice, you made some really really intelligent points, I'm very very grateful. Right now, the number of the man is going? How do we locate him, because I don't know if the police will work on this. And we need this money back urgently because the current rent will expire by July. I was told the man is communicating with someone among us, so you are very right about not trusting anyone.
Phones / Re: I Need To Track An Airtel Line Urgently by BecaciaBarbie(f): 8:47pm On Jun 22, 2019
holycrest:
contact this guy immediately 08037111012 on WhatsApp he is a security operative
He asked for 1k airtime.... Hummm
Properties / Re: My Experience With A Fraudulent Property Agent by BecaciaBarbie(f): 2:35pm On Jun 22, 2019
twinskenny:
damn soo sorry sister
Thank you so much... I have been trying to connect with people online just to see of we could track them down.

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