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victorvezx:
South Africa did not support Biafra. Even if they did, South Africa was a rich white supremacist country and a strong U.S. Ally. they definitely had interests in the oil, which would be easier to get. France simply used Ivory Coast to ship weapons to Biafra. Ivory Coast was still under strong influence from their former colonial master France. France was supporting Ivory Coast financially. So they had to oblige.

in the same sentence, u are saying south africa didnt support biafra and also saying that they did because of oil!! Which one is it? Guy...take a chill pill...u seem to know very little about biafra...why come online to argue it with gurus??

Biafra's attempt to leave Nigeria resulted in the Nigerian Civil War. The state was formally recognised by Gabon, Haiti, Ivory Coast, Tanzania and Zambia.[1] Other nations, which did not give official recognition but provided support and assistance to Biafra, included Israel, France, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Rhodesia, South Africa and the Vatican City.[2][3][unreliable source?] Biafra also received aid from non-state actors, including Joint Church Aid, Holy Ghost Fathers of Ireland,[4] and under their direction Caritas International,[5] MarkPress and U.S. Catholic Relief Services.[3



Read the above. RSA supported biafra to whittle down nigeria's influence. Not for oil. Plus they where not in good terms with u.s at the time. And u.s didnt support biafra at the time either

Corrinthians:
Have you bothered to ask yourselves this question : Of what value is Kanu to those white supremacists?

The only contry that would have given a damn about the boy is Briton simply because he is a CITIZEN.

You think countries waste their assets on some emotional pursuit? Dude, countries get involved ONLY when these is MONEY to be made from the venture out their National Security is at risk.

You guys are just too emotional and naiive to understand anything about foreign policy and diplomacy.

wen south africa supported biafra in 1967, they were being ruled by white supremacists.

Wen ivory coast supported biafra in 1967, there was no money to gain and they risked being invaded by the bigger nigeria.

U are the one who dont know anything about how social changes occur.

Nobody said it was ever goin to be easy....but we have seen many ppl in history do the impossible.

Who would have thought ottoman dan fodio would establish the most powerful empire(sokoto caliphate) in sub saharan africa b4 the whites came?

victorvezx:
Nobody cares. That doesn't change anything. Hamas is a terrorist group to America but not to Russia

u have changed ur tone from 'nigeria govt never called ipob a terrorist group' to the above! Guy go and sleep. U are off ur game today and are making many infantile comments

victorvezx:
Several countries like France armed Biafra, but they still lost the war.

only france....and with little weapon too.

Biafra lost because they didnt have weapon not because of anything else.

U dont know to wat degree a new financier like isreal might wanna arm ipob.

That we lost once doesnt necesesarily mean we must lose twice

Corrinthians:
Lord knows I don't give a hoot about likes. We are speaking FACTS here.

Pray tell, of what relevance is the boy to ANY country that they should risk a diplomatic spat with any country over him?

The only reason why his little rump hasn't been bundled into a small cargo plane and sent to Nigeria is perhaps because Nigeria has never signed any extradition treaty with Israel.

I don't even know if you understand what I'm saying sef.

how did he leave nigeria in the 1st place?

Isreal risked diplomatic spat in 1967 with nigeria and u.k to support biafra. Do u think a 32 yr old ojukwu christian is more important than a 44 yr old jewish nnamdi kanu to isreal?

Do u think isreal might want to use him to spread jewish culture in africa? Little kids be talking.

Nigeria voted against jerusalem as isreal capital. Pray tell...why wont isreal wanna risk diplomatic ties (that they neva had) with nigeria?

Plus i have heard netanyahu mention biafra in a speech b4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pENvnZrFbGg

victorvezx:
They are just desperately trying to make him feel important. The idiot even said he won't honor the Nigerian court unless United Nations directly supervise his trial for treason. Which means he is not coming to Nigeria anytime soon, because the government will never involve the U.N in a serious case like treason. The idiot even thinks he is important enough for U.N to even want to intervene in his case. That is how highly he thinks of himself

he didnt actually say this...kayode ogundesi said it....the broadcast i heard...kanu said that the courts must guarantee him of his protection b4 he can resume his trial.

Auladimeji1:
One thing I know is that Isreal and USA can't invade Nigeria no matter what,las las na sanction(s) Nigeria go chop.So Keep Calm

true...but they can arm ipob. And if u know how south sudan came to be independent, u will know arming ipob is not a good thing for nigeria....cos unlike the 1967 war that was conventional, ipob and niger delta militants will fight a guerrila warfare that will affect oil and govt earnings.

victorvezx:
Nigeria never called Ipob a terrorist organization. Nigeria proscribed Ipob and called it an illegal organization. It was Ipob illiterate supporters like u that interpreted it as banning a terrorist group. The Nigerian government have never even used the word "terrorist" when describing Ipob. The government just simply calls it an illegal organization

any evidence of this?

Corrinthians:
No vex. I think it was not just MOSSAD that was involved. They must have coordinated with Mi6, the CIA and the KGB to get the boy out of the zoo.

All hail Emperor Kanu!

well regardless of ur mocking tone...nnamdi kanu is still alive and safe. Now...get angry about it and mock him some more. Isreal is aware of his presence in their country too....and they dont seem to mind.

Get angry some more and find the next biafran thread to mock and get likes from ppl like u

Corrinthians:
Thats what I'm saying. He keeps dropping names of people that know absolutely nothing about him or give a damn about him.

Imagine the op talking about MOSSAD. Hell! This is pure comedy.

just dont forget that social changes start small and snowball.

Plus if u think that the contacts kanu has now is the same he had when he started in 2013, then u are the real naive person who dont know anything about life

Auladimeji1:
What UK is facing is more than more than Biafra

no. U.k embassy here could have de-escalated the situation by reaching out to buhari to release him from detention and extradite him. U.k govt has not grounded to a halt because of brexit.

They know that the biafran issue is dicey and has led to killings. They should have played the big brother role. Afterall nigeria would never have been without them

victorvezx:
Am sure the idiot Kanu does not believe Palestine deserve freedom from Israel

u are sure? Any proof of this?

Corrinthians:
Lmao.

Some persons have made up their minds to remain ignorant for life.

believe wat ever u want. U think nnamdi kanu is too small to be saved by isreal?
U are the ignorant person here who has a very simple outlook of ''pdp vs apc'' as far as politics is concerned.

Pray tell...how do u think groups like boko haram get to survive govt on-slought? U forgot that isreal has an embassy in nigeria and that they have been monitoring the jewish movement of nnamdi kanu? Do u think it was possible that kanu survived the initial attack on his home by the aide of ipob and then reached out to isreal embassy to help him escape nigeria?
Apc vs pdp simpletons

Shame on u.k.
Since they didnt want to save their citizen, the state of isreal stepped in.
Once again, shame on u.k

And double shame on buhari for not knowing how to de-escalate this issue without violence

pazienza:
If after all the evidence proving these people Igbophobia.
And IPOB insists on adding them to their Biafra plans, what made you think any thing you and I or anyone else say matter?
How long have we been arguing with IPOB members, that the struggle must be restricted to Igbo areas only? How long?

i will tell u this b4 i sleep. U sound like u know history...thats is why u will understand this.

Dont ever discount the posibility that kanu can be the guy that unites the se and ss to fight together for independence.

There are SO MANY cases like that in history and they usually start like this....with many nay-sayers turned allies.
Wen i was campaigning for buhari in 2015, i hated kanu and his message.
3 yrs later, am a big fan.

Ioannes:
When Igbos were asked to relocate from the North, what was the response like?

When the Arewa youths gave an ultimatum to the Igbos to pack their kaya and vamoose from the North, how many willingly obliged?

Don't fool yourself bro, if a referendum was held today Nnamdi Kanu will be super shocked.

if u are not igbo as i said...u wont understand. Lets leave it there

Ioannes:
Try me.

go and watch biafran war videos on youtube and understand why an igboman can never feel truely nigerian again...no matter the position he attains (includin presidency)

pazienza:
But you and I know they wouldn't. They have become a law unto themselves, which wouldn't be bad if they are astute thinkers and rational bunch.
But as we can see, from their continual shameless annexation of unwilling and even Igbophobic entities in SS into their fantasy Biafra maps, they are not.

Now go to political section here and see inconsequential minority groups in SS embarrassing Ndiigbo because of IPOB hollow speeches.

IPOB has become an enemy of Igbo nation.

nothing says they wouldnt...u just believe they wont.

ezeagu:
Well hundreds of people have died, and there's nothing to show for it after over 2 years of ranting, I don't know what is actually being done. Biafra, this new agitation, is a distraction and has been childish for a very long time now, the best thing would be to quietly move on to more sensible political strategies, like many discussed here.

i agree...but do u think kanu cant lead the 'sensible political strategies'

Teedamaniac:
So Urhobo isn't Niger Delta that he made mention of? Is Urhobo Edo nation?? You obviously lack comprehension I'm done here...no wonder he can deceive you gullible lots #Atikulated

urhobo is not in ipob map bro...am tired of this arguement

Obi1kenobi:
That's not the point at all. The point is that his rhetoric has often verged on incitement to violence and the only reason we've seen little violence from IPOB is the lack of will or capacity by his followers to do so. IPOB are not a "non-violent" group. Not only is their rhetoric often a call to violence, they have employed thuggery and intimidation in the South East to compel conformity to their sit-at-homes.

the bolded is a lie. Dont lie again if u want us to continue our chat.

Even if u feel his speech are inciting, u dont move in with tanks. U take him to court and argue ur case. If he becomes violent...then u can send the tanks

pazienza:
What he is doing is act of provocation of SS minorities . He's attracting unnecessary animosity towards Ndiigbo.
He's boxing us in. Not only do we have to deal with the Yoruba-Arewa gang up, Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB through their lack of logical reasoning, are opening another up war front in SS for us.

How can you tell SS people that there is nothing like SS? And you go ahead to impose your Biafran identity on them, even when you know how much they resent it. They had repeatedly told you they have no interest in your Biafra, they had made their opinions known through their national bodies, their commoners have made their opinion known in social media, and in real world, they have refused to comply with any of your protests or sit at home orders. But your justification for this madness of insisting they are Biafra, is that Effiong and minorities played key roles in Biafra.

Does this sound like what a man capable of rational analysis and reasoning would say.

Now let's spIn this. How would Nnamdi Kanu and his hordes of IPOB people( who by the way, are disappointing me by proving they are incapable of independent reasoning of their own, a feature that is un-Igbo, there is a reason we have no kings, it's because we are independent minded people ) feel if a Fulani person say the below :

"There is nothing like Biafra, Biafra is the creation of Ojukwu, it didn't exist before 1967. Biafrans are Arewa people, they are Nigerians. How can you say Biafrans are not Nigerians when Zik fought for Nigerian Independence and was a Nigerian President. Ekwueme was Nigerian VP, Igbos were Nigerian Senate presidents and House of representatives speaker".

Would you not feel incensed?

You will tell him that you don't regard Zik. But so too do SS people not regard Effiong and those other SS people that played prominent roles for Biafra. They regard Boro who fought for Niger delta republic, just as you regard Ojukwu who fought for Biafra.

Why are IPOB and Nnamdi Kanu incapable of basic rational reasoning expected of a modern man?
Why?

like i said...ipob should redraw the biafran map to igbo areas in ss and continue their agitation the way they have

Ioannes:
And how did you come about this 90% figure?

Have you done a referendum somewhere that we aren't aware of?

if u are not igbo...u wont understand

Teedamaniac:
you think so? Then listen to him again saying no south south and no Niger Delta but Biafra, then come back and see between me and you who's feeling funky

he has severally said se and ss minus edo nation. Plus there are maps. Urhobo wasnt included

Obi1kenobi:
His group are "non violent" because they lack the capacity for violence and because Igbos aren't violent people. Their rhetoric and utterances have been violent and they've severally threatened violence against the state. In any civilized country in the world, no government would tolerate incitement like that. If Fulanis were making the kind of statements Kanu and his IPOB lieutenants have been making, the nation would worry because those people have tremendous capacity and will to dish out violence.

the bolded is very irronical. In a civilised country, u take people like that to court and argue why its in the best interest of the state to lock them up. U dont invade their homes with tanks.

If the fulanis are saying it..u take them to court too. Thats is CIVILISATION.

Its easy to not want to fight for freedom of speech.

trapQ:
Shut up. Kanu himself has said repeatedly that urhobo is biafra. Get your facts right.

show me evidence

ezeagu:
People keep talking about non-violence, everybody knows what Nigeria is, which is why hundreds of IPOB members are dead and none of the leaders are. If somebody sends you a ticket to Syria, does that person have your safety in mind?

i will be the last person to insult nnamdi kanu. I cant even do wat he does. Nnamdi kanu is a lion. Every tribe need a lion.

I will diagree with him quietly
I will vote atiku in 2019.

I dont agree with most of u guys opinion on nnamdi kanu.
I however agree that he should redraw the map of biafra to be an igbo- only affair. (Yes he can understandbly include ikwere and anioma since they speak igbo)

U guys accuse him of leading the igbo nation to annihilation while absolving the fact that he and his group are non violent and are victims of buhari's violent-prone politics.

poyebad:
Biafra is DOA (dead on arrival), just like your sel.fish and imbe.cilic misleaders. And you're not even going to need the help of any other ethnic group to kill it for you, you sel.fish and sil.ly id.iots will do that all by yourself.

It's only the no-do-gooder Igbos like yourself and your palmwine drinker Kanu that still believes in Biafra. The sensible ones among you have moved on with their lives by building business empires in the same Nigeria that opon.us like you keep castigating. [Opon.us means lesser human beings thinking through their sh.ith.oles.]

well inspite of ur insults and tantrums i wont insult u back.

I will only tell u that i live abroad and am a successful engr....with good property in nigeria and i am in full support of biafra. 90% of igbos want biafra. But then again keep insulting ur betters.

midolian:
Hate Igbos? Hating Igbos as far as I am concerned is a waste of hate. I don't even know how I feel about you guys, to say the truth

how u feel about us is ur business. But always stand by the truth no matter who speaks it. For the sake of ur soul o. Nuttin concern me

midolian:
Kanu said worse

unfortunately for u even cilicmarin knows the truth...along with millions who listened to his speech. U may hate igbos...but remember that God will judge our lies

Teedamaniac:
This Man should learn to respect boundaries...Urhobo's are not Biafrans and I'm not a biafran, and yes there is a Niger Delta, Majority don't share same cultures,gods, believes with Igbo's. Only few part(Ikwerre & Aniocha). I've #Atikulated Obediently to send Buhari back to Daura come 2019...Nnamdi KANU is indirectly working for Buhari with the No referendum, no Election directive, igbos be wise and think with your brains or remain under this leadership for another 4years

urhobo has never been included in biafra b4. Stop feeling funky