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Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 4:19pm On Oct 10, 2018
basilo101:
Gbam. Igbos have created a uniform political consciousness in SE, SS and most part on NC. Kanu almost ruined it though
wat he meant was how ppl spread across large areas came to become igbo and have similar cultures. unlike binis whose kins now claim urhobo, itsekiri and so many other distinct tribal identity.
kanu ruined nothing. kanu made more igbos politically consious...and pls we are not talking about non igbos here. we owe them nothing
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 4:15pm On Oct 10, 2018
Obi1kenobi:
I'm pretty sure that is not what anyone is saying, but it flew over your head as expected. It is the duty of everyone in a functional, representative democracy to act in good faith with a power-sharing model that is inclusive of all nationalities in the state. Else, our national unity is worth nothing and there is no reason constituent nations of this nation-state shouldn't secede to look after their own interests.

The victim mentality gets played by everyone. The Yoruba played it a lot in the First republic and still talk about NCNC-orchestrated marginalization in those days. The Northerners claimed Igbos wanted to take over all their markets, their civil service and the officer corp of the military. Yes, Igbos have been the biggest whiners since the civil war: for the obvious reason that we have been excluded from the corridors of power since then.
To be honest, I'm sure many would not disagree with some of your points about the miscalculations or a certain political "naivety" of Igbos in Nigerian politics. But you had overplay your hand into myth-making.
the first time a democratically ellected yoruba will be allowed in the presidency was in 1999.

b4 then, the highest yoruba could get were military vps because of lack of igbo generals. as for 2007, it was imperative for the niger delta to be given a sense of belonging with gej. who thought yaradua would have died? yaradua would have gladly handed over to sullivan chime in 2015 if he was alive.

the yorubas have been losing b4 2015, suddenly they are now regarded as political masters by idiots like the pablo fool. u see, if it was igbos who won in 2015 and went about shouting how they were sophisticated politicians, idiots like this same pablo will still spin it as chest beating that will be our doom.
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 8:52am On Oct 10, 2018
PabloAfricanus:
Actually my points stand, at least the way I see it.
But if you insist, I'd be willing to learn why.

Let's leave the questions about carving up minorities into unwilling and unsolicited unions for now.

Can you honestly breakdown for me why the Igbos have not been able to form a political block with minorities in the South?
wat exactly does this fool mean? Since 1979 election till date the igbos and the ss have been largely under same party and votes same way nationally.

Are you aware the Amachrees in Kalabari can be said to be essentially Igbo?
Just like the Ikwerres who were complicit in kicking the Igbos out of PH after the war?
u are stuck in politics of the early 70s when igbos were fresh out of war. Do u think its also possible that the yorubas or fulanis would have faced same issue from their kins if the just lost a civil war in nigeria? Mumu man
Why are the Ijaws despite very heavy intermarriage, as lots of Ijaws are half Igbo, very hostile to all things Igbo?
liar and slave. Goodluck jonathan was accused of surrounding himself with igbo. Pray tell which ijaw are very hostile to all things igbo? Or is gej from onitsha? Bastad.
Why do they consistently work against any Igbo cause or firmly resist any grounds for political engagements with Igbos?
in wat way pls. Cos they say they are not part of biafra? Even imo state and roachas said they are not biafra
Why do the Anioma peoples despite their very well known Igbo origins never seem to be able to make the hand shake across the Niger work?
in wat way? Do they kill igbos or vote against igbos? Some of them only say they are not igbo. U do know they also deny being bini too right? Where are bini ambassadors and courts wen u need them? Little kids with fone.
Why do they all look up to smaller groups like the Binis and Fulanis when they have a bigger group they have shared history with?
they deny being tagged bini just as much as they deny being igbo. However we know they relate with both groups very cordially. They just need their own identity. Go and tell an ika politician who he would rather align with btw fulani and igbo. Has there been a time ika or ikwerre went against igbo to help fulani? Not even during the war or after it. Gowon (who isnt fulani) gave ijaw rivers state and for that they appreciate him. Wen ibb was reigning, the guys from there wanted an anioma and ikwerre state. Ibb reburfed them and created enugu and abia states instead.
And why are Igbos so confused about their place in Nigerian politics?
most igbos want biafra. However the politics in igboland is split btw wat the masses want and wat the elites want. Its like that every where there is agitation for secession. Ask catalans wat they want
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 7:38am On Oct 10, 2018
Chiwude:
Is it PabloAfricanus that you're calling a Yorubaman? Some of you just label everyone Yoruba. If my memories were correct Pabloafricanus has been here on nairaland defending Ndigbo since it was birthed.
PabloAfricanus deserves your apology. Him, Ogbuefi, Andre Uweh, Ezeagu, Ifyalways, Safarigirl, Afam4Eva, Chinenye, Bigfrancis, Ajanaoka, Pazienza and others too numerous to mention have stood for Ndigbo here in time past. So show some respect.
he deserves piss and poo not respect. You are blind to his bold insults of igbos. Re-writing our history and praising backward yoruba old nations.

Dont annoy me too bro.
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 5:57am On Oct 10, 2018
Fools just dey embarrass us here blissfuly. Re-writing our history in our own thread

Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 5:50am On Oct 10, 2018
Curlieweed:
I don’t know what you got from his post but the guy displayed a very basic ignorance of our history. We had at least two historical hegemonies in Igboland. The Nri predated Benin by a long time. WTF does he think they used to keep their hegemony alive for such a long time? Magic?

Contrary to his claims, the Aros had no Benin influence and had a confederacy that covered a large part of the old Eastern region (well beyond Igboland). How the eff does he think they held that confederacy together? Is it not with a deft combination of diplomacy and military persuasion? As an Ngwa man, you should know the importance Aros attached to diplomacy. They considered diplomacy the greatest leadership trait.

Can you compare the Anglo-Aro war with the way the sacking of Benin?
the chinyere guy just dey embarrass us here. Wat does he think 'Aro confederacy' meant. He probably thought it meant aru conference where ppl come and fart
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m):
ChinenyeN:
PabloAfricanus, though I get your point with your last post, I must say, the actual content in your post interferes with that point. Yes, it can essentially be said that Igbo cannot engage in national politics effectively, but I'd hazard to say that it is not for the reasons you expounded upon here.
u guys allow fools to insult igbos and reply them diplomatically.

The yorubas today cant tell u if alafin or ooni is the overall youruba ruler. The binis are little more than an igbo hamlet who got popular because of their arts...the fulanis are ppl who only became popular wen uthman dan fodio led a rag tag militia to infiltrate hausa hamlets which are now called hausa states (for the delusion of sophistication.)

Pray tell...which institution in nigeria is older than nri kings and geneology?

The nri kings spread their empire without violence and freed slaves under their empire. Nri used omu (tender palm leaves) as national symbol. Ask this maga up there wat the national symbol of his gwandu and bini courts were. The nri odinani religion is still very prevalent today. Ask this bonobo up there where gwandu religion is.

The person known to have done the most in making ikwere a seperate entity from igbo is elechi amadi. He himself said that the aro empire which was a small village in the niger delta region controlled 4 out of the 8 stools tru which the people there in niger delta related at the time in a court arrangement under a confederacy which history calls Aro confederacy. Yet someone is convincing u that we never evolved kingdoms.

Do northern igbos ever think that the british came at a time the nri empire was waning down? Do they not realise that nri empire efectively gave the northern igbos their culture of today. And that they must have wielded enamourse influence in their own way? Simply because as at today italy is a struggling country doesnt mean it wasnt the home of the roman empire which once ruled the world

The only reason idiots like the fool up there insults igbos is because we lost a war.
The japanese once colonised china. They were a power to behold and even invaded u.s (hawaii) in ww2. America not only beat them up but threw the only atom bomb used in a war in their land. It got so bad that america forced them to declare never to start or join a war again unless they are attacked.
20 yrs after their mighty humiliation, they became the 2nd largest economy in the world. Igbos will rise and shame fools like this guy.
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 5:43pm On Oct 09, 2018
pazienza:
He isn't Yoruba.
I don't really know where he is from, but he had always shown interest in the identity crisis of the Igboid groups of SS. He always shows up in every thread the Igboid identity issue is being discussed. He's an old timer here, you don't know him because you are relatively new here. He has refused to say where he is from, preferring to remain ethnically anonymous.

See, you are new to this SS Igboid Igbophobic game. There are so many things you don't understand about it, and it does show in your arguments. Some of us have been at the forefront of this issue since 2007, so we know better. We had also taken out time to visit these areas, interacted with the commoners and therefore, when we speak, we speak with authority and with facts on ground, and not based on fantasies or wishes.

I had taken time to analyze the issue of the Igbophobic Igboids in SS, and had reached my current resolve about them. It took me 11years to get to where I'm with those people today, and I'm sure if you are pragmatic and open minded,, you would still reach where I'm today with them.
See, the feeling you are passing through Now, it's called "grief". It's the feeling every Igbo person passes through once forced to deal with the Igbophobic stench of those Igboid groups. It has five stages, and by my reckoning, you are at the second stage. Lots of people here are at the first stage.

See the stages here:

1. Denial.
This is the stage most Igbos go into once faced with Igboid Igbophobia. They try to rationalize things. If it were online, they claim the Igbophobic Igboid man is an impostor from Yorubaland.
If it's in real life, they deceive themselves into believing that the Igbophobic Man is alone in his Igbo denial, or that he represents only but a minority of his people. They go on to look for few Igboids who are indifferent about Igbo identity or pro Igbo,and claim they are the majority that should be listened to.
99.9% of IPOB members are still at this stage.


2. Anger.

This is the stage you are currently at. It's the stage when it dawns on you that the majority of Igboids are really resentful of their Igbo tag. You know you can't keep living in denial any longer about the situation.
So you go into a frenzy, blaming everything, looking for means to change things to the way you wish they should be, even if by force. It's the anger in you speaking. I have been there and back. This stage is the most difficult stage, because it's the stage where you are really struggling to give up, but don't want to. This is the stage, the Igbophobic Igboids also would tempt you into becoming abusive to them, and then they would use it to justify their distortions and allegations of Igbo desire to dominate them. This is was the stage I was always clashing with ChinenyeN in Ikwerre/Anioma related threads.

3. Bargaining.

Ehe! This is the point you would have learnt that threat of violence against Igbo resenting and even hating Igboids wouldn't happen, so you start bargaining,, looking for ways to plead to them to accept Igbo tag. You are basically on your knees at this stage, ready to accept any bullshit from them, just to have them accept they are Igbo. You also rush and defend them, and try to diminish every obvious display of Igbophobia they exhibit. Some people on this thread are on this stage. Let me not mention names. wink

4. Depression.

Aha! This was the state I was in for last two years, when I joined facebook pages of these groups and visited their towns. It's better experienced than explained. But you need to pass through it, to gain a better perspective of issues at hand.

5. Acceptance. This is the stage I'm currently in. The state at which you accept things the way they are. No ifs or buts,, no fantasies and projections, no viewing of things through rose tinted glasses, no sugar coating of issues.
This is the stage of clarity, when it all begins to make sense to you. You understand that you must work with what you have, and you would even begin to appreciate what you have, and wondered how you missed out on noticing this, because you were to obsessed with having what you don't necessarily need. Its the stage you become totally emotionally detached from the Igboids. You becone cold and real with them.


Only those who truly are patriotic to Igbo nation passees through these stages of grief. So, the fact you are passing through them, shows that your heart is at the right place, so I would say, Dalu.
My advice to you is that you stay steadfast, don't allow any thing or anyone extinguish that flame burning inside of you, because Nwanne, Igboland would need it, if we must crawl out of our present conundrum.
you knw its funny... my 1st stage actually was the one u described as last. B4 i neva use to consider ss igbos as actual igbos. I thought all of them were called ''eka igbo'' and that all of them were igbophobic. But i knew that they had a connection with igbo somehow.

Wen i entered uni i met a few of them especially from delta state. They neva spoke igbo to me...and one of them was particularly hostile. I never took it to heart cos i always thought there werent igbo.

It was after my uni days that i started coming to nairaland and following politics beyond newspapers. That was wen i learnt a lot about ss igbos. And realised that some of them are actually igbos and that not all of them are ''eka igbo''. That was also wen i read igbo political history and came to the conclusion that igbo nation must identify and reunite with them.

Wen i joined this thread and read ur opinion was wen i also shifted again and held the view that it seems the attachment to them is costing the igbo nation politically. So my view now is this;

1. Within nigeria, ss igboid groups are not igbos. And must not be allowed to gain wat is supposed to come to igbo
2. Outside nigeria or post nigeria, ss igboid groups are part of the igbo nation. Their lands belong to us and if need be, we must fight to claim it...regardless of who thinks other wise and who comes here to hide behind keyboard to insult his betters.

Its the bitter politics that the igbo nation should start playing
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 4:48pm On Oct 09, 2018
^^^^ this guy's thought is childish. lets leave him be

but he can bank on it that igbos will never leave ikwerre alone. the chances of that happening is close to zero. everyother thing he is saying is the rants of a frustrated person.
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 4:25pm On Oct 09, 2018
PabloAfricanus:
What a silly fooool.
Your type are destined to be used for target practice with absolutely no regrets.
Firstly, you lack tact and subtlety.
Next the word discretion is apparently alien to wherever you come from.
Lastly the lack of historical leadership figures where you come from shows in the extreme disregard for diplomacy you and your co travellers are exhibiting here.

Have you ever, ever sat down one day to ask yourself why the Ikwerres and others feel the way they do?
Like it's never bothered you for once? Or maybe you're blissfully ignorant of how they see you people?

Do you know what is frightening about your brand of stup.idity?
You're planning to rob a heavily fortified bullion van with a battalion of soldiers as escorts, and your first plan is to block the road and order both the occupants of the bullion van and the escorts to step out with their hands raised and calmly hand over the bags of cash to you. grin
All with a booming voice and brogaddacio only! cheesy

You're getting to get yourself a one way ticket to meet your ancestors, and your unfortunate co travellers will probably never get the chance to tell how hot lead feels in the body.

Why are you id.iats soooo thougthless and emotional?
If you had any semblance of superior force or compelling political strength, then your fantasies might have been excused.
Here you are, threatening to carve up lands of a people who would rather mortgage their unborn generations to the Fulanis or Yorubas than allow themselves share a mutually beneficial political arrangement with you.
I get it that this is an anonymous forum where anyone can post their thoughts, but I sincerely hope this is not how some of you Igbos are thinking.


Why do you have to compare yourselves to Yorubas?
Are they a benchmark for you?
the lack of tact is from u. shouting up and down and cursing me changes nothing.

80% of igbos in SE take ikwerre and anioma as igbo territories and will defend it with their blood. the rest of ur gibberish are just that....gibberish.

meanwhile learn how to talk b4 i get u banned for insults.
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 4:05pm On Oct 09, 2018
Handsomegod:
Whatever his provenance and circumstances of birth,i sincerely wish someone can boldly come up with these epic litany of crimes Igbos committed against the southern minorities.This must exclude the silly civil war orchestrated propaganda. I have read extensively on the governance of the Eastern Region and nothing exists there to indict the Igbos or the minorities.Eastern Region ran the most inclusive government in that era and the facts are available and will be posted on request.Yet,the phony story of Igbo crimes against Southern Minorities kept being bandied about. Something has to give to clear this cloud of danger once and for all.
its simple...
1st there was the issue of south cameroon who felt they werent politically included....read their elites didnt get much appointments.

2nd in 1958 oil got discovered in ijaw and ogoni land and the dudes started scheming to secede. ofcourse aguiiyi ironsi as hos squashed their dreams and left them bitter and saying igbos are dominating

3rdly was how eyo ita lot out to zik in 1953

the rest is propaganda by ijaw and efik losers which sadly mixed with post-war yoruba/arewa propaganda to manufacture things that werent there.

can u imagine that the owners of ph (ikwere) which is easts largest city are complaining that govt didnt build schools or hospitals for them. lol if govt didnt build anything in ph, how did it become the largest city in east? why where ppl rushing there?
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 3:44pm On Oct 09, 2018
Handsomegod:
Hi Pablo. Tone it down. I and many here are glad you spoke up in defense of your people. Disregard whatever excesses embedded in Bede's update. I can detect very deep animosity and anger in every single letter of your rebuttal. I,just like many here sincerely do not know the underlying cause of these deep seated animosities from the minorities. I guess it is historical or cultural. May i genuinely appeal you take us through the historical basis as it were. The disdain and extreme suspicion you mentioned for emphasis. Do not forget the guy you quoted stated his personal opinion which does not in anyway represent the general opinion or any Igbonic divine duty. Please keep the conversation clean bro and lets really talk.
he is yoruba
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 3:42pm On Oct 09, 2018
PabloAfricanus:
Sorry, but you're a disgusting idia.t angry
Your naivete, lack of tact and outright silliness is frightening.
Are you for real? for real, real?
Like those unfortunate souls in those "territories" are just gonna fold their hands and watch you carve them up as you wish?
Just because you can or just because of some phantom igbonic divine duty?
Again you're a stupendously ignorant and disgusting id.iat.
I see your fellows here nailing down the realities on ground for your kith and kin and all you can come up with is a surefire strategy for utter defeat?
Have you given any thought to feelings and aspirations of the peoples in those "territories"?
Maybe they have valid reasons for the disdain and extreme suspicion they have for people from your enclaves?
I see, and I was thinking it's just standard tribalism. This shhh.ittt runs deeper than I thought.
You guys are nuts!
Some of you Igbos are destined to learn diplomacy the hard way.

Hopefully, the messiahs from your enclave do not adopt this mindset of yours.
Hopefully.
1st of all u are a yoruba man so wat can i say to ur write-up? Afterall wasnt it ur fathers who joined an alliance with our fathers' enemies to commit genocide against my people. In wat way can ur people ever have the best interest of my ppl at heart?

2ndly u are telling me about diplomacy? how did gani adams become famous? adeyinka grandson and a host other yorubas in opc? by speading love and diploma? bitchh please. the most uncouth criticism of buhari is no longer coming from ffk, doyin okupe and fayose? Its no longer yorubas that are described as 'mouthed'?

3rdly the areas i talked about speak igbo and have igbo cultures. there is no different at all btw se igbo and these areas. just a matter of post-war politics. u think we should do nothing and let it slide?
do u knw the history of why ikwerre is not igbo today? it simple...they were part of the rivers province of old easter region. oil got discovered in their land and gowon carved them entirely out as a state. the old rivers state was dominated by ijaw who hated igbo dominance of eastern region. so these igbos fearing that the ijaws will pay them back decided that they are no longer igbos. they went on an active change of name and history to blend into rivers alongside other minorities. is that wat u want igbos to forget?

4thly. will yorubas forget lagos diplomatically if tomorrow lagosians (many of whom come from all over nigeria) decide that they want to be independent of the yoro nation? why
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 2:28pm On Oct 09, 2018
ChinenyeN:
This is a big if, considering that Nigerians are relatively complacent, and even IF balkanization occurs through war, the supposed "divine duty" you believe Igbo leaders have may surprise you.
its a big if...and igbo are not in a hurry. The divine duty i speak of comes naturally in the mind of igbos to always attach some kinship to folks in ss. No surprises here
You have a lot of faith in your people, who are in no way prepared for war. I cannot believe how anyone can earnestly convince themselves that Igbo will win massively.
if nigeria divides, it will be due to worsening economic situation. Ppl will become disillusioned by everything. Especially southerners. It will start as rumour b4 it snowballs into massive unrest in different parts of the country. The govt will soon realise that wat is going on is beyond their control. In the crisis, the igbo nation will just be one out of many fighting to leave the union. The massive win i mean is that after leaving the union alongside many southern nations, the next war will be to make gains into the niger delta..in order to gain sea access. Our main enemies will be ijaw and bini and we are larger than both of them put together and multiplied by 2.
This a problematic mindset, to say the least. It would be my hope that anyone who actually ends up in a true leadership position (as in garners the follwership of Igbo people) does not think like you do.
only an igbo leader who is pro ss/se can garner the fellowership of a true leader in igboland. Ditto nnamdi kanu
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 1:37pm On Oct 09, 2018
ChinenyeN:
See how you sound.. "if it means war".

1. Your territory is not even sovereign sef, neither does it have any real sense of polity. There is no charter that binds the region, that can protect you from the political, moral or even economic consequences of even thinking in this type of mindset.
If nigeria gets balkanised by war, new countries will natural form out of it. It would be igbo leaders divine duty to capture all igbo speaking areas under 'igboland'. The consequences can be argued under the simple fact that all the captured area speak same mothertongue. U.N and other powers Will understand such arguement.

2. Your people are not mobilized, talk less of having yet gotten over a prior war to come and fight another in their own backyard. Incidentally, doing the exact same things that the non-Igbo Igbo communities have been accusing you of doing for decades now.
this is not 1966. If nigeria will break thru war, igbos will win massively this time around cos we are backed by defeat lessons. We already have 70% of igboland in se with a large chunk of ss ppl still loyal to the igbo nation. I think we are powerfully situated to take ikwerreland or ikaland from ijaw and benin troops who would wanna fight to have it. Am sure the north will have a handfull on their hands fighting middlebelt to even consider fighting for ikwerre and anioma
Congratulations, you are now exactly what the SS claims you to be.
like i said earlier, the wolf doesnt consider the opinion of the sheep. Google igboland map. The map above is the only available map on net. Even the u.n knows ikwerre as part of igboland
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 12:09pm On Oct 09, 2018
pazienza:
If you would pick up firearms to forcefully keep a people who don't want to be with you, in your new country , tell me, how then are you different from Nigerians who forcefully kept us in a union we fought to leave in 1967?
Have you ever thought of this perspective?
i have...and my answer is...it doesnt work that way. There are differences btw countries, ethnicities and clans.

America is a country. Britain is a country. They can be balkanised.

Ethnicities are the larger forms of clans (read clan as tribe). They can form a nation and/or a country. It cant/shouldnt be balkanised.

In nigeria, the ikwerre are a clan within the igbo ethnic nationality. Its a fact. Regardless of politics. Within nigeria, ikwerre and the larger igbo nation are still united...but in different geo-political regions.
After nigeria, its left for igbo to either play mumu politics and leave ikwerre to go or play smart politics and force them back into the fold.

Remember the one china policy. Taiwan are ethnic han chinese who think they should go it alone. Mainland china are filled with equally ethnic han chinese who think 'hey, over our dead body'
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 11:53am On Oct 09, 2018
pazienza:
We all saw how Wike the Ikwerre man conspired with the help of some of our selfish politicians who were eyeing the Senate presidency slot, to kill SE chances of having a chance at VP, by presenting and sponsoring a Tambuwal/Fayose ticket.

This is the way SE politicians have been for sometime now. And this is why the region is currently in political wilderness in Nigerian politics.

Funny you accuse me of being emotional, when you are the one whose emotional attachment to Igbophobic Igboid groups down South, had blinded from seeing the damage those lots have and are capable of causing to Ndiigbo.
I'm the one who isn't held down by emotions here. I'm being blunt and cold,, whereas you are the one who is clinging emotionally to realities of yesterdays, while refusing to accept and work with current reality.
the thing i will say in this matter after reading posts from hammer6f is that if we are ever planning an independent igbo nation we MUST work with this map...no matter the opinion of the various clans captured within it...cos the wolf doesnt concern itself with the opinion of the sheep

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3131018_igboland_jpeg72ffdbe9771892b98ffe883330da1679
If it means war, i will pick up arms God willing

However, if we are talking about igbo within nigeria, then we must primarily work with the map of SE
Politics › Re: Atiku Considers Soludo, Adesina, Chike Obi, Peter Obi,Ekweremadu As Running Mate by Bede2u(m): 7:21am On Oct 09, 2018
EasternActivist:
You are OYO.

Ekweremadu is highly qualified just as any other person with an Igbo root.

So guide your utterances if you ain't an afonja who wanna spite sisters.
the dude isnt igbo...we know him and his 20 monikers
Politics › Re: Atiku Shops For Running Mate In South East by Bede2u(m): 5:53am On Oct 09, 2018
Iblad0994:
So you think Atiku is the man to save the country right. I don’t even know why we southerners are thinking this way. It’s just a common knowledge that both Buhari and Atiku are old men without any capabilities of ruling this country. Come to think of it, if we allow Atiku to become president , that means we are allowing probably 8years of irresponsible leadership from this old northern corp of leaders. Atiku is corrupt to the bone and it beats my imagination that people keep anchoring for an Atiku. It just saddens me, I think Nigeria deserves everything we get Caz we just can’t think right.

Attached is a link of the United state senate committee using Atiku corruption as a case study in the US senate.

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/FOREIGNCORRUPTIONREPORTFINAL710.pdf

Ask yourself if this is the kind of president you want for Nigeria.
eat shit and die bro. Even u show me pics of atiku robbing a bank, i will still vote him
Politics › Re: Fayose's Statement On His Threat To Dump PDP by Bede2u(m): 5:50am On Oct 09, 2018
mknigeriagreat:
Boy you are 100% right for saying the North don't scream it is all because they accept the truth as it stands now. But for the east you are 5000% wrong they are the loudest. And empty barrel they say makes the loudest tuneless noise. Their number one problem is that Yoruba's voted Buhari in the last elections. Didn't the same Yorubas vote Jonathan in 2011 so if we decided not to vote Jonathan for obvious reasons why is that their headache. And we don't play the tribalism game they are the ones always bringing ethnicity into even food eating. Very pathetic group.
i didnt say ''scream'' i said 'scheme'. Its a verb...check its meaning
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 5:33am On Oct 09, 2018
pazienza:
By Igbo tradition, she is now SE. Her Children and husband are both Abians.

Ofcourse, she remains an Ogwashiukwu daughter, but her share is now in Abia state.
As a minister of finance, she represented Abia State and not Delta.
i think she can easily become a compromise candidate. She is the perfect description of ''SS/SE''
Politics › Re: Atiku Shops For Running Mate In South East by Bede2u(m): 5:24am On Oct 09, 2018
CityNGR:
Yadayada SW VP or Atiku loses in a landslide
let him lose landslide. But if per chance he wins.....lol tongue

SE vp all the way
Politics › Re: Atiku Shops For Running Mate In South East by Bede2u(m): 4:51am On Oct 09, 2018
olawalepopoola:
If he picks from the East, Osibanjo factor will play out it the west and will be very hard for the north to vote for him cos of the political rifts between the Igbos and most part of the country
he is going to pick from the east already. Pls dont vote him in the west. If he win nontheless, then u can suffer a little of wat the east has suffered in the past 4 yrs.

Dont forget many core north and middle belt go vote him. Just dont forget that
Politics › Re: Atiku Shops For Running Mate In South East by Bede2u(m): 4:48am On Oct 09, 2018
CityNGR:
Not possible. If he picks Igbo he should forget any SW vote. That's a banker. And even if he gets all southeast votes...he will still be roundly defeated... Igbos don't understand Nigerian politics... I'd rather support Osinbajo even if I dislike Buhari than support an Atiku with a Igbo VP!
these yorubas are funny. For a ppl who had 8 years presidency in pdp and 4 yrs vp in apc without igbo having any yet, u ppl are surely bitter and greedy at the same time.

U call it sophistication. Of course its not that. Its evil greed. But wat do i know?
Politics › Re: Fayose's Statement On His Threat To Dump PDP by Bede2u(m): 3:30am On Oct 09, 2018
Printerscanner:
Yes, a tribe that used over three millions of your fathers and mothers for pepper soup and suya is definitely a problem to your generations. The pains and suffering of the year 1967 to 1970 has given birth to hatred which you have passed from generation to generation.
see the kain thing u are gloating over. That ur tribe is responsible for genocide against my tribe. No shame at all. I can imagine that hellfire is filled with ur murderous fathers.
Politics › Re: Fayose's Statement On His Threat To Dump PDP by Bede2u(m): 3:28am On Oct 09, 2018
mknigeriagreat:
For the first time I will go the tribalism way. You must have a shallow reasoning to quote that unhealthy and stupid line of sanusi if he actually said that. I have never bn a fan of Fayose nor his lousy mouth but saying Yoruba's are the problem of this country because of Fayose's words shows your level of intelligence as bn low. A very foolish and stupid person with Low IQ will argue it that Hausa's or Fulani's are not the number one problem to this country. From terrorism to their growing population problems to their illiteracy to not bringing anything to the purse of the govt anymore just to collect. A man I know won a contract to produce over 5 million textbooks for the north and not a single of the various textbooks was written in English everything in Hausa and you come here to say Yoruba are the problems of this country. Don't just get me angry today. Which tribe is more educated than the Yorubas? I'm not talking about the eastern part of the country where all you study in the university is library science and guidance&counselling. Rubbish.
u guys are always scheming...the north and east are not always backstabbing and scheming
Politics › Re: Fayose's Statement On His Threat To Dump PDP by Bede2u(m): 8:27pm On Oct 08, 2018
maasoap:
Your mother
u guys are always bitter
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 7:54pm On Oct 08, 2018
hammer6F:
Cut Ikwere out of Rivers and put their land locked land with minimal oil into the SE zone.


Create a coastal state for the Kalabari and let us see wat Ikwere will call themselves next.
lol...i tell u
Politics › Re: Fayose's Statement On His Threat To Dump PDP by Bede2u(m): 7:37pm On Oct 08, 2018
Fayose should go and die
Typical yoruba man. He wants to scatter everything cos he didnt get his way.

Like sanusi said, yorubas are nigeria's main problem
Politics › Re: Atiku Replies Buhari Organisation, Says President’s Camp Now Confused by Bede2u(m): 5:41pm On Oct 08, 2018
Betmaster3:
I am Atikulated.. Me and my family are Atikulated... The question is are you Atikulated? #BackToDaura2019
guy forget matter...even cilicmarin, buhariguy and sarrki will vote Atiku...who no like better thing?
Politics › Re: . by Bede2u(m): 5:28pm On Oct 08, 2018
superlightning:
Mouth..... That's what you have.

Wait until we expel you from igboland if you dare cause disunity among igbos of every creed. Your time is ticking.
guy...listen to pazienza....u are not smarter than all igbos.

Ikwerre ppl like robbing it in ur face that they are not igbo...u have been telling them that they are...wat has changed?

Time to try another strategy

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