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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 8:22pm On Oct 09, 2024
basilico:
Chatgpt.


Yes, there have been cases where people have attempted to induce an abortion without a woman's knowledge, although such actions are both illegal and unethical. These situations can involve the administration of substances or medications without the woman's consent, sometimes mixed into food or drink. In most jurisdictions, this would be classified as a serious crime, including charges like assault, poisoning, or murder (if the fetus is viable).

Cases like this are rare but have occurred in situations where one partner does not want the pregnancy to continue, and they take extreme, illegal measures to terminate it without the pregnant person's consent.

If you need more specific examples or information on legal aspects, I can provide further details.



You said:
What were they charged with in that casr
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
In cases where someone induces an abortion without a woman's knowledge or consent, the perpetrator can face multiple serious charges depending on the legal jurisdiction. Some of the typical charges include:

Assault: Administering any substance or causing harm to another person without their consent is often prosecuted as assault. This can range from aggravated assault to battery.

Poisoning: If a person uses drugs, chemicals, or any harmful substance to induce the abortion, they can be charged with poisoning or administering harmful substances.

Manslaughter or Murder: If the pregnancy was advanced and the fetus was viable, the person could be charged with manslaughter or even murder, depending on the circumstances and local laws.

Criminal Abortion: Many countries and states have specific laws regarding unauthorized or illegal abortions, and inducing an abortion without a woman's consent would likely fall under these statutes.

Endangerment of a Child or Unborn Child: In jurisdictions where a fetus is legally considered a person after a certain stage of pregnancy, charges of child endangerment or even feticide may apply.

For example, in the U.S., some cases have led to charges like attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, or unlawful termination of a pregnancy. In other countries, the charges might vary but would similarly focus on the harm caused to both the woman and the fetus.








How long is prison?

Is this common?



ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important
they know abortion is wrong which is why they dehumanize the unborn child
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 8:06pm On Oct 09, 2024
wirinet:
You are using the correct term now, murder of a fetus and not murder of a baby.
Notice how you remove HUMAN from raumdeuter's words?
raumdeuter:
Exactly. I am with you on that. You want the lawful murder of human fetus. Some people think the murder of fetus should be unlawful

I think killing of mass shooters should be lawful, some states dont agree
lordreed, this is what I am talking about. They dehumanize the baby. this goes back to yesterday about our objective beliefs and we do things even if we know it is wrong. but that is a complex philosophical topic and I digress
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 8:03pm On Oct 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
If you ram a pregnant woman with a car, she survives but the baby dies what have you done?
abortion which is legal grin grin grin lawfully killing of a baby
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 8:00pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
You claimed my analogy was absurd because I said a baby is not an adult, well is it or is it not an adult? Answer that. If you say a baby is an adult then it should be able to get a driver's license since we generally give adults driver's license don't we.
a baby is not an adult does not make any sense. you are not supposed to make such a statement in the first place. a baby = a person that will be an adult in the future. the same baby(person) becomes an adult. so what is the point?

Driver's license does not signify adulthood. Teenagers get drivers license.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:55pm On Oct 09, 2024
wirinet:
It's the mother that gives it the Homicide status, without the mother it is simply termed abortion. If a person kills a baby without killing the mother it could never be termed single Homicide or murder.
I did not see the word abortion
Fort Lauderdale man arrested for killing unborn baby after beating pregnant woman with baseball bat
https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/fort-lauderdale-man-arrested-for-killing-unborn-baby-after-beating-pregnant-woman-with-baseball-bat/

the mother of the child does not have the power to decide when something is homicide or not.
On Friday, the Broward Sheriff's Office stated that homicide detectives had arrested 34-year-old Emmanuel Prevaly on the charge of killing an unborn child by injury to the mother.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:45pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
Right so a baby can get a driver's license? The absurd one here is you. Tomorrow you'll come and lie about how LGBTQ folks are dancing erotica dance at children's schools. So the children are only adults when you wish it?
driver's License does not signify personhood. I know a lot of adults who do not have a driver's license. If you cannot drive you cannot get one. if you are blind, you cannot get one. so a blind person does not have rights because he can't get a driver's license?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:43pm On Oct 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
Leave the lawful or unlawful. You agree that its taking the life of a human fetus. You just want the murder to be lawful
So does an unborn child have the right to life? if it is Double Homicide then the question has been answered. lawful or not.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:39pm On Oct 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
So you agree killing a Human fetus is homicide(murder)?
Then tell why is abortion where a human fetus is killed not homicide(murder)
he argues that abortion is a lawful termination of a baby. So I give him that. In that case, it cannot be homicide
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:36pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
May be because the ramifications are on a much larger scale? But you'll have to ask them.
A criminal who killed multiple people should live, Society that is okay with the lawful killing of a baby is mad at the lawful killing of a criminal. IRONY
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:34pm On Oct 09, 2024
raumdeuter:
So why is it DOUBLE instead of Single(Just the woman)
he cannot answer
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:33pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
Not sure why I need to repeat that i have already given you an example.

A fetus or zygote isn't a baby, just like a baby isn't an adult.
absurd analogy. has a woman ever delivered a dog? or a lice? humanity starts when the sperm meets the egg. from there it grows through stage till it dies. Saying a baby is not an adult is crazy. no one is born an adult.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:31pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
We lawfully kill humans all the time, heck look at you advocating for Israel to kill people.
you are going too far. I agree we lawfully kill humans.
what did the baby do that they are killing it? did it commit any crime? the law is the law, people can have their abortion if the law allows them but let's not dehumanize the unborn child
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:29pm On Oct 09, 2024
lordreed, the irony is that many people who are okay with lawfully killing a baby have problems when it comes to lawfully killing a criminal.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:27pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
A fetus many not have personality like a brain dead person but it is still HUMAN.

I never used homicide for tick or lice. Try to keep up.
thank you. Have you noticed how people try to argue it is not human? that is my problem. they dehumanize it because they want to kill it. LAWFULLY
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:24pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
Dude use your eyes, UNLAWFUL KILLING.
I hear you... How do you unlawfully kill a Lice or a Zygote?
Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.

not Zygote to Fetus or lice or a Tick.

A baby is killed lawfully but why are people trying to tell us it is not a baby that is being killed and try to tell us it is a fetus or a zygote?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:22pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
I just gave you an example.

Do you think you can unlawfully kill a brain dead[b] patient[/b] and claim it isn't homicide?
is a brain dead person a fetus or a tick or lice? a brain dead person is a person. Where are you going with your train of thought?
to make your argument less absurd you substitute a person for a patient
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:15pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
Yep. Go destroy ticks being used in a lab whether you won't be sued for every penny you own.
absurd argument. let's just say I did that, will it be homicide? or they can charge me for vandalizing private property?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:13pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
What part of UNLAWFUL killing do you not understand?
how do you unlawfully kill a parasite?

A fetus is not a person, they debate when personhood starts, and they discuss human rights against the unborn when they want to kill it. but once a criminal kills a pregnant woman suddenly the fetus is a human, a person with rights... DOUBLE HOMICIDE
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 7:01pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
Sorry to burst your bubble but Bill Maher is wrong.
How is killing a woman with pregnancy double homicide then?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 6:53pm On Oct 09, 2024
IjeBos:
Called it.
Biden just addressed the Hurricane and some of this disinformation.
He still should have done it in a primetime address and linked it to talking to folks in Florida about leaving.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-2bQpNOkBs
There is no disinformation. People on the ground and affected by it can attest to it. Kamala and Mayokas are all the sources of the so-called disinformation.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 6:50pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
It doesn't matter if it's a flea, you killed UNLAWFULLY. Wasn't it y'all that was running mad cos imaginary pets were being eaten?
At least Bill Maher has the courage to call it MURDER and he is a liberal who supports abortion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQvB55pAFy0
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 6:43pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
It doesn't matter if it's a flea, you killed UNLAWFULLY. Is it y'all that was running mad cos imaginary pets were being eaten?
you can unlawfully kill a fetus, zygote, tick, or lice? Wow
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 6:40pm On Oct 09, 2024
IjeBos:
You think you would know some things about what propaganda is and isn't.

How's that friend's couch at the house that you stayed, on what you say was your first night in the US, that turns out was a picture of not a house but a motel and wasn't in the US but Canada?
you are relying on Russia for propaganda cheesy cheesy
so desperate
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca:
LordReed:
Because you killed UNLAWFULLY.
Of course, Homicide is an act in which a person causes the death of another person.

you guys said it is a zygote, a fetus, not a person, a parasite so how is it a double homicide? If I kill a lice or a tick will it be considered homicide?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 6:21pm On Oct 09, 2024
LordReed:
How is it propaganda when Russia has confirmed it?
Suddenly you trust Russia hahahahaha
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 6:15pm On Oct 09, 2024
IjeBos:
At the height of Covid when Abbot Covid Testing machines were in short supply so people couldn't get Covid tests and people probably died because of it, Trump sent machines to Putin for his personal use.
Russia, probably laughing at the US, confirmed that today.
Trump is a POS.
America First Right?

https://www.politico.eu/article/kremlin-confirms-donald-trump-covid-test-vladimir-putin-president-russia-us-abbott-point/
more propaganda for the desperate
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 6:08pm On Oct 09, 2024
budaatum:
Should she be forced to bake a cake she don't want to bake?

I think not, in this case. But I shouldn't be able to refuse to bake a cake because of another person's race.

So, what about baking a cake with Allah Akbar on it?
Liberty does not apply. Again, democrats are more likely to act like a dictator than conservatives.

you would think they would take their business elsewhere.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 5:36pm On Oct 09, 2024
CBS 60 minutes moved answers around to help kamala harris look good. That's a good reason why Trump should not go on those networks.
Politics › Re: NNPC Increases Fuel Price To ₦1,030 by bemeruca: 3:50pm On Oct 09, 2024
Why?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 3:02pm On Oct 09, 2024
wirinet:
MOSSAD knows everything and entrenched in Hezbollah and other terrorist organisations, October 7 happened with MOSSAD not having a clue. Can you explain the irony?
That's because hezbollah is a bigger threat to them than hamas. Look are what is happening to Hezbollah, precision intelligence is taking out their key leaders. Their weapons caches are being destroyed every day.

What about the assassination of Hamas leader in Iran? How about bombing a ammunition delivery in Syria?

How about the infiltration of hezbollah's supply chain?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 2:57pm On Oct 09, 2024
A woman with balls. Unlike Macron and Kier in the UK

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by bemeruca: 2:50pm On Oct 09, 2024
This is the definition of liberalism. Now you cannot be a conservative and degenerate to this level

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