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IjeBos:
The stupid continues. Please tell me how US battleships will prevent WWIII? Israel can protect itself from a regional conflict? Is that the reason why the US had to hastily provide an emergency aid package? Or provide more missiles for it's iron dome? Or send them more weapons to use?
Stop embarrassing yourself. As I keep saying. You speak like an 11 year old. You clearly have no idea about Israel as a state.

If you want to learn about the Israeli - Palestinian conflict, just google "Israeli-Palestine conflict for dummies". It should suit your medical condition.. stupid. Given how long it's been going on you can also go and google and read one of the many plans people have put out. The fact that you are asking the question shows how little you know.

And lastly, the plan doesn't matter because Israel doesn't really want peace. They want the land. So this cycle suits them as they can claim more land in between the violence. Enough land that a Palestinian state isn't possible. Hence the settlers/outposts that terrorize Palestinians that are supported by the State. You know state sponsored terrorism. There is even a term for it, "mowing the lawn".

But, you're dumb and don't read. The reason you can't conjugate verbs - you don't read enough to see them in different forms. So most of this is outside of the Right Wing Fundamental youtube channels you enhale.

Done schooling you.

Fool did not answer the question.

How do you stop collateral damage with an enemy like hamas.

You think you are schooling someone here you just showed how dumb you are.

Russia and north Korea have been making noise about using Nukes. Iran wants nukes. In a time like this is when nukes are used. If Iran enters, Hezbollah and Syria, Israel has no option but to use nukes. This is common sense. US warships are there to show support and act as deterrence to Iran other groups to prevent regional war which will definitely lead to WW3. This is common sense. Iran has been talking about battle with Israel and mobilizing their proxies in the region. hamas and Hezbollah will overwhelm Israel paving the way for Iran and Syria. The US made it clear from day one... That if any group join the war, they will enter it too. Iran has backed out and not listening to the calls of Hamas.

So yes, the US is playing a significant role in making sure things don't get worse.

When will you answer the question? How should Israel take out hamas without collateral damage?

Israel is even doing better than US collateral damage. Hamas outs out numbers that cannot be verified. Even their dead militants are counted as civilians.

US assault on ISIS in mosul killed about 12000 civilians.

Per capita that is significantly higher than the body count so far in Palestine.

IjeBos:
The evolution of an idiot's(benalcino) argument:



IjeBos points out: The US gives Israel the weapons it's using to fight Hamas, has navy battleships in the Middle East to protect Israel and has some soldiers fighting.
And the US has told Israel what they should do as well as the past President Obama, stop killing Palestinians.

Benelavino deflects


IjeBos points out. Wrong, the US gives Israel weapons for free. The US gives Israel tons of Aid. Get a primer on the US - Israeli relationship

Benvalino deflects further after trying to cover for the fact he has no idea what he is talking about, contradicting his first post.

So, those who are basically bankrolling the conflict, allowing troops to fight in the conflict, has their soldiers in harm's way providing cover for the conflict and is also providing political cover for the conflict should now shut up as well? Lol..

You seem to forget who is the dog and who is the tail here. Israel doesn't survive without the US. And so when the US says something, Israel should listen. That's how power works.

Wow, you are the biggest idiot to ever claim he is a Harvard graduate.

I am saying the US giving Israel weapons does not mean they are right. Even if they stop giving the weapons. That is why when I point to you that Israel gives US weapons and technology you insert FREE into your stupidity like it changes anything.

I am asking you to tell us the Solution since you haven't. Saying the US says they are gonna radicalize Palestinians is an oxymoron. They are already radicalized and the UN is paying for it.

Israel should be afraid of people like you being radicalized though because the stupid in this world is on another level.

Okay, let me subscribe to your fallacy or argument that the US says Israel is doing it wrong. What is the solution?

You said I am deflecting but I asked you about the solution, instead of you talking, you are saying the US gives free weapons and Obama gives free articles.

Dude, what is the solution?

The US has battleships there because Hamas wants to draw Iran into this. The US is not protecting Israel but it is trying to not start WW3. Isreal can protect itself. If US don't send the rockets for their irondom, Israel might be forced to use preemptive strikes. This is something you don't understand. Nuclear war may start.

Also, this is the evolution of my argument. Notice the bold. I know why you didn't include this. You don't want people to know the context.

bemeruca:
Sadly it is what it is. In war, that's the term they use to describe them. Hamas embed themselves with the people n attacked from within.

All who says Israel is doing it wrong should go and fight Hamas.

Question for you. How should Israel fight Hamas? Tell me how you will minimize collateral damage. I will wait.

Saying the us gives them weapons is not enough. What is the answer to taking out Hamas who use people as bulletproof?

Don't tell me Obama or US provide weapons. Tell me the solutions the US provide, Obama provide or you provide

IjeBos:
Lol.. As I said, like an 11 year old.
You keep typing and the stupid keeps coming out of your mouth.
The US gives(for free) weapons to the Israeli government.
Start with a primer on the US aid to Israel and stop embarrassing yourself. You continuously speak on ish you have 0 idea about.

https://www.axios.com/2023/11/04/us-israel-aid-military-funding-chart

Your logic. US gives weapon so anything it says is right. Logic you can only acquire from a Latin school in Boston.

Tell me how to get rid if hamas or shut up. The us you mentioned did not provide a solution. Answer the questions as you know better.

Free or no free. Your arguments will be laughed at by a braindead

IjeBos:
The US, who is the one giving Israel weapons is saying Israel is doing it wrong. You understand that right?
I keep telling you, you sound and act like a 11 year old. You're too stupid and too intellectually dishonest to even begin to have a real conversation about this. So you can wait for it.
If you want to understand more than you do now, go read what Obama has written on it, or what even Blinken is trying to communicate to Israel to do right now or what Austin Lloyd just said.
You've stewed in your conservative bubble for so long you can't see anything outside that, Palestinian Genocide. Lovely Christian you are eh?

Israel also gives US weapons and technology. The same US who droned innocent families in Afghanistan during the disastrous US pullout. Then Obama who killed innocent people all over the world by droning them is who you are subscribing to? What did Obama do to Libya? Syria? Go figure.

But drawing you back to the meat of the discussion. What are you going to do to get rid of Hamas without losing your life?

Answer the question and don't Say US because you need to go look at their record concerning innocent civilians bombed.

I am still waiting.

basilico:
Our resident dolt solution is Israel Jews to go back to Europe and leave the descendants of the Philistines solely in the land between the "river and the sea ". Then that will be the end of all wars in the Middle East
Only he cant say it.

Hamas and Palestine don't care about collateral damage. Them shoot rocket indiscriminately to kill as much as they can. Israel built a defense system because in the past Iraq bombed them. Hamas builds tunnel around civilians to protect hamas. First line of defense for them is women and children.

Hamas has done this for far too long. Palestinians should have been worried and try to protest but they were okay because Israel must die.

Truth is, Israeli lives are at stake, and they support this overwhelmingly. What people outside Israel say matters a little because the people taking the rockets are in Israel.

Hamas did not expect Israel to respond like this. They think it will be the same. One or two bombs then the cycle goes on and on.

So ijebos, tell me how else Israel should drive hamas out? Radicalization is common since kids are taught to be heroes and blow themselves up by killing jews.

IjeBos:
The Palestinian People are now collateral damage? Well said. Expresses the trash bin of a person I know you to be.
Here's a clue, when the US, Israel's biggest backer along the with the majority f the world says Israel is doing the wrong thing.. they are. And not all those people are "Jew Haters", the only argument your feeble mind can construct outside of Genocide of the Palestinian people.

Sadly it is what it is. In war, that's the term they use to describe them. Hamas embed themselves with the people n attack from within.

All who says Israel is doing it wrong should go and fight hamas.

Question for you. How should Israel fight hamas? Tell me how you will minimize collateral damage. I will wait.

IjeBos:
This statement by the Secretary of Defense means that American leadership is very worried about blowback because of Israel's casual disregard for Palestinian lives.
Benalvino/Bemeruca and Basilico, I guess this would make Lloyd Austin a Jew Hater too right? You should really stop outsourcing what minds you do have to Christian Fundamentalists.



https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4339335-lloyd-austin-israel-risks-defeat-if-civilians-not-protected/

When they teach children from the age of 5 to kill jews in Palestine it means Israel has already lost it. This does not change anything.

They have been radicalized from the get go.

Lyord saying that is a way to say look, we are hearing all side and we want them to do something. But there is no way Israel can play this game the way hamas wants it and be victorious. Blend into the public, shoot and shout civilians are here don't shoot. Sadly people are dying but not cause Israel wants to kill them but because hamas want them to die.

How about hamas come out from their tunnels and asked their citizens to go inside for their safety? Will that ever happen?

Palestinians support this what in mass and also support the trouble hamas started. They are now a collateral damage. Sadly but this is what they choose.

If they can't defend themselves, they should not start a fight. Sadly, they followed budaatum advice.

budaatum:
Home schooling is a bad idea, as you wouldn't learn there what would protect you from traps.

Pay school fees and let your kids learn!

Says the guy who wants pornographic books in school for kids.

Only in Nigeria they will take your fingerprints, take your passport photograph, give you a unique BV-Number. When you want to Cash a cheque, or transfer some kind of heavy cash, they will verify your identity through BVN and still ask for your ID card.

sleekdot:
Anyone who watched the debate yesterday knew Desantis floored Newsom

The debate was to debate Blue state policy vs Red state Policy

While Ron was able to state that California is so dirty that it has a shiit map, homelessness was all over, Newsom father inlaw fled to Florida, That how bad school books were promoting pornography for kids, and how Newsom had his own kids in private school during covid while he shut public schools, Disney Florida stayed open during covid while Disney California was shut

The only point Newsome kept making was that neither he nor Desantis will be nominee and he should drop out for Nikki Haley. How is this part of his blue state policy?

Newsom had significant trouble with the truth even when showed facts and numbers like Education in California, Covid death numbers, Taxes, Gas prices and even number of people who fled the state

The sucker punch Ron DeSantis delivered to him was that California is the most naturally blessed state in the country with beautiful weather how Newsom managed to chase people away from beautiful California

That one is what budaatum like the most about California. Teach the children porn so budaatum can raise his shoulders high when he tells us where he puts his deek is non of our business talking about sexualization of children.

[quote author=basilico post=127255855]Everyone sees what they want to see and believe whatever they want.
Newsom father in law ran away from Commiefornia to Florida because of better safety, lower taxes and better governance.😜😜

I was talking to a fella who had made the move from California to Florida. He was telling me that Florida’s much better governed, safer, better budget, lower taxes.

Then he paused and said ‘by the way, I’m Gavin Newsom’s father-in-law.’ pic.twitter.com/OSsYCRTJYo

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) December 1, 2023

are talking about someone who lives in Aba, one of the dirtiest city in Nigeria. Of course to her newsom won. Even if he was a mute in the debate.

IjeBos:
I guess by Benvalino and Basilico's (I'll call them Beavis and Butthead from now on) standard the Pope is a Jew-Hater as well.

https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-hamas-conflict-terrorism-pope-francis-middle-east/

It has always been terrorism Gayboy. Remember, you boys hamas slaughtered 1300 innocent children. 85% of Palestinians support and danced

budaatum:
I guess you'd expect I'd read what stupid idiot writes because I sometimes read parts of yours to see how stupid you can be.

I don't stoop into his particular ignorant stupidity.

Pervrrts like you don't like facts

LordReed:
How is the UN behind the radicalization of the Palestinian kids?

Because UNRWA fund the schools that radicalize kids in palestine

airsaylongcome:
Have you got a reference for this?

Use google.

jojothaiv:
So what's the point of refunding then?

Maybe the international AML will shed more light on that too.

Can't you read? The money goes bank to where it came from

IjeBos:
Quote me where/when I said research doesn't matter.
You can do all the research you want, but will always be limited. The more research, the closer you get, but still be always limited until you live/experience it. The reason why people who study French Literature spend semesters in France etc. etc. But, rational people understand that. You and basilico don't seem to . You chime in on America's voting systems, but where you live you vote and put your ballots in tupperware containers, while people easily steal them and drive away. What reference can you even have to understand how secure America's systems are?

You speak in this thread as if you have some mastered expertise on all things the United States, while you can't even seem to master the English language.

Again, I ask you What is your reason for spending hours and hours and hours and hours on this thread?

Because you keep saying you don't live in the US and you have never been there you cannot know what is going on. That's what you have been saying. By saying that you are making the point except you live in the US you should not speak because you don't know. In other words, your research does not matter, you must live in the US to know.

IjeBos:
From the NYTimes
Gift Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/25/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-death-toll.html?unlocked_article_code=1.CE0.7v4N.uJwKI773-bDR&smid=url-share

Because Hamas is using them as bulletproof.

The UN has been behind the radicalization of the Palestinian kids.
Let this sink in.

IjeBos:
He doesn't know and neither do you. That's why both of you are ALWAYS, consistently WRONG.

But you seem to have dodged the question again. I had a reason for my research and a reason for spending hours and hours researching Israel and Palestine and why MY country gives so much of OUR money to Israel and acts as it's chief backer and whether that was beneficial to the US. What is your reason for spending hours and hours and hours and hours on this thread talking about TRUMP and US taxes and the US voting systems? Why do you seemingly care more about a country you aren't a citizen and aren't a resident of than the one you are?

And your constant inability to conjugate verbs is grating. You sound like an illiterate. Honestly, was English your first language? Don't think I've seen someone write as persistently poorly as you. The sentences you write aren't that complex that you should be making the basic mistakes you do.

Dude shut up, from your very first post here, you have been saying research does not matter. You haven't been in the US, you are not in the US so you cannot know or you don't have the right to talk about US politics. That is you and your mentality since you discovered this thread.

IjeBos:
I think you make my point. Years ago, after 9/11, I dedicated tons of time researching Israel/Palestine. I mean tons of time. Read books and more books, watched documentaries, discussed with Arabs and Israeli's I knew to understand prevailing perceptions. Largely because I felt Israel and the US were intertwined because of the support the US gave Israel and I wanted to understand what my tax dollars supported and US policy.

So, the question is why do you and Basilico spend hours upon hours upon hours only in this thread talking about the US?

You research but basilico did not research. He has not paid tax, never voted so even with research he cannot know. You are a stupid

Nothing you know about Palestine. Zero.

Have you asked yourself why Jordan killed Palestinian refugees and PLO? They tried to take over Jordan do you know. After Jordan is paying heavy for joining a fight against Israel on their behalf.

They did same in Lebanon. Ask yourself why Jordan and Egypt won't take them

LordReed:
LoLz. Trump surrounds himself withthebestidiots I guess. Bwahahahahaha!

Which is one reason I don't want him to run again. But it seems the people want him to run.

IjeBos:
You've never voted in the US, yet you are an expert on US voting.
You've never filed US taxes, yet are an expert on filing US taxes.
You've never had a US bank account, driver's license, or SSN, yet are an expert on the necessities of US bank accounts, driver's licenses and SSNs.
I'm a Nigerian citizen and sufficiently understanding the Nigerian regulatory system to get the stuff I have to do is stressful enough, I can't imagine dedicating the copious amounts of time you do researching a country you aren't a resident of and have no business with just to write the amount of nonsense you do and continuously be wrong about it.
Go rest.

Oh just shut up.

You have never been to the Middle East yet you are an expert in the crisis over there. You can navigate the complexity of the crisis.

Shut up and behave like a person for once. No one except you makes statements like this.

budaatum:
Like basilico and you co.

Yeah, Never met him, Basilico is in Africa . But don't let that stop you from Displaying your love for lunacy.

budaatum:
He has gone quiet my Lord I see.

He'll come back claiming 2000 mules kraken after covering his eyes so he can claim the truth he sees does not exist.

but its you and Lordreed that are spreading BS. it is established that what cohen said cannot be taken seriously. it is against trump so you will self-service on it

TDS

LordReed:
Budaatum just showed where it is clearly stated that Cohen said Trump ordered him to do it so stop lying.

Maybe you and budaatum don't care about the truth, you only care about anythign that makes trump look bad.
basilico is saying this:
Michael Cohen, the former lawyer and fixer of Donald Trump, admitted that he lied to Congress in 2019 when he said he did not remember Trump ever asking him or Allen Weisselberg, the former chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, to inflate the numbers for the financial statements of Trump’s assets. Cohen made this admission during the cross-examination by Alina Habba, one of Trump’s lawyers, in the civil fraud trial against Trump in New York. Habba was trying to undermine Cohen’s credibility as a witness by pointing out his previous lies and contradictions.

That was under oath. in fact:
Trump attorney Alina Habba sought to discredit Cohen as a witness in cross-examination Wednesday, questioning him after he said he was not actually guilty of tax evasion despite pleading guilty to it in 2018 and getting him to acknowledge it was the first time he had said that in open court.

I remember saying he pleaded guilty when he was not. He is admitting that. Cohen was going around taping people. Who does that? He is the worst kind of human being and trump do know how to surround himself with idiots.

What's the point if him putting on high visibility and helmet?

basilico:
The Jews cheated the five Arab countries to attack them and drive them into the Mediterranean sea so that they (Jews) would defeat those armies and drive the Palestinians to refugee camps out of Israel.

Crazy. Leftist be like US should be ashamed for taking the land from native Americans. Israel goes back to their land and fight for survival in the land... Leftist be like genocide... Israel has been Reacting since the nation was established

IjeBos:
As I said we've long reached the point of the argument that you've lost whatever point you were trying to make and are now rambling incoherently.

Your new argument is that if you leave your home because someone is raining bombs down on your house, threatening to commit the same massacres on you that they committed in another town and spreading whispering campaigns that they have nuclear weapons they will use, you left because of your safety and not because you were forced out? And the distinction somehow matters? Holy Fuxing Stupid. You've delinitiated the word to a point to try to absolve Israel of what happened. As all great intellectually dishonest people do.

But then ask yourself, so what. Does the fact that they left because of their safety, to return when they were safe and not because Israel "forced them out" absolve Israel from taking their homes and land? Of course not.

You are as dumb as a rock, an intellectually lazy person and intellectually dishonest to boot. I would say I hope you don't procreate. But you have. Good thing that you're to stupid to eek out a living that your Baby Momma raises them.

Also it's called war. They started the war to kill jews and take their lands. So what's your point?

basilico:
This dolt is a Jew hater because of Arab propaganda. After 1948 nearly all Jews living in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Egypt etc were expelled leaving their possessions . If the perpetual unrwa refugees called Palestinians are to reclaim what they left in Israel , then all Jews should also claim. This idiot does not care that Arabs expelled their Jewry population.Or he has never heard that from Hamas TV.

The guy is driven by hatred for jews.

IjeBos:
As I said we've long reached the point of the argument that you've lost whatever point you were trying to make and are now rambling incoherently.

Your new argument is that if you leave your home because someone is raining bombs down on your house, threatening to commit the same massacres on you that they committed in another town and spreading whispering campaigns that they have nuclear weapons they will use, you left because of your safety and not because you were forced out? And the distinction somehow matters? Holy Fuxing Stupid. You've delinitiated the word to a point to try to absolve Israel of what happened. As all great intellectually dishonest people do.

But then ask yourself, so what. Does the fact that they left because of their safety, to return when they were safe and not because Israel "forced them out" absolve Israel from taking their homes and land? Of course not.

You are as dumb as a rock, an intellectually lazy person and intellectually dishonest to boot. I would say I hope you don't procreate. But you have. Good thing that you're to stupid to eek out a living that your Baby Momma raises them.

This guy too stupid.
See the bold. In Ukraine, war destroyed cities. Some people are still living. Same in Palestine. Same in Iraq, same in Syria.
So tell me, who asked Israelis to flee their border for safety? Hezbollah or Israel? Are people still living there? Yes because the once who left was not forced to leave, they left for their safety. No one drag them into a van and relocated them

Latin School in Boston really taught you how to reason.

IjeBos:
God, your'e so fuxing stupid. You write gibberish and call it a coherent logical point.
Your argument is that any refugee who flees their homes, who are not combatants, automatically lose their homes and land. So all the people in Northern Gaza who fled because Israel were dropping bombs, have now lost their homes. And when they start dropping bombs in the south and those people flee, those people would lose their homes as well? That seems like the exact point Palestinians were making about Israel's true intention to kick all Palestinians off the land.

Kevin Mcconnell got in trouble this week for saying that the US never asked for land when they fought wars. He was wrong, but he wanted to make a point, that the US fought wars for security not to take land. In the last few US wars, the US was sure to make sure they didn't take land, oil or anything because there is a moral element to it and a perception they want to avoid.

Your argument is precisely why Israel has lost the standing it has despite the level of propaganda it puts out. You seem to be too stupid to understand the ramifications of the shit you say.

Go back and watch some more Christian Fundamentalist/Israeli propaganda videos.

No stupid jew hater. You and others are claiming Israelis forced them away.

The ones who stayed at Israeli citizen go figure.

When you are so deep is stupid you start to think stupid and project it on me. That's not what I am saying as I clearly use Israel and Hezbollah as an example. They left for their safety. No one is saying Hezbollah forced them out. You are so dumb.