budaatum: I think it is you who does not understand what you are saying, but I don't expect us to agree.
This is amusing. Please clarify what you think I am saying then.
Iran is responding to Israel. The ballistic response was delayed because Israel destroyed the missiles that were on standby. I mentioned that Israel needs to further weaken Iran's ballistic program.
That's the main point. Why are you focused on the condition of "IF"
Where did I argue that the attack occurred before Iran made its statement?
nateevs: You are a liar. Show where Iran showed their readiness to strike Israel. You have been lying post after post. Just like the Zionists. Your aim is never to prove anything, just lie and then attack. Show the proof.
Only two posts ago, you were 100% sure Iran's capacity to respond was decapitated. Now you are confirming back to me that they have fired 100s of missiles. Where did Iran suddenly find the capacity to respond? Your theories are not ever based in the discovery of truth.
How do you know there were no fatalities? Because Israel said so? Do you think Israel will admit the correctness of anything? We that are outside of this bubble know Israel very well. They will understate if it serves a purpose, overstate for another.
Keep deceiving yourself. You and your goons are extremely shortsighted. You think this is about this round of battle. There's nearly 100m people in Iran. They will mobile 10m people easily to build drones that can reach Israel at $10,000/ unit. Every single Arrow 3 missile response is costing Israel and the US northwards of $3m a piece.
Iran will overwhelm Israel over a longer battle economically, and lead it towards the need to invade. But you cannot invade a country that can mobilise a 1m man army.
The US will have to back out at some point, because politically, I am expecting MAGA, and everyone else will unite against the Neo-cons and Zionists, and put so much pressure to abandon Israel.
Israel should have stayed with the negotiation.
Maybe you need to understand what you are responding to.
bemeruca: Iran has no offensive capabilities. Their drones have all been intercepted, and Israel has ensured that their ballistic missiles cannot be launched, which is why we haven't seen Iran using them. Israel still needs to further degrade Iran's ballistic missile program..
This is Mossad taking out ballistic missiles and air defense batteries.
It has been all over Twitter for about five days, prompting Trump to advise U.S. personnel in Iraq and other regions close to Iran to evacuate if they wish to do so.
It is fortunate for Israel that there are no fatalities reported. When Hezbollah missiles killed children, Israel reported those deaths, and when Hamas missiles killed senior citizens, Israel also reported those. At this point, one might start to feel hopeful about a terrorist regime.
40% of Iran's GDP comes from oil, and Israel can target that at any time, which will only worsen the economic strain that Iran has been facing for years. The majority of the Iranian people support Israel, and you will likely see them celebrating an attack on Iran.
Nateevs2: I would stop talking if I were you. First Iran could not retaliate because they are decapitated, now it's what did they hit? The US is already scrambling air defense mechanisms to help defend Israel. Iran is a paper tiger, but the US helping.....Why don't you ask the US and Jordan to stand aside and let's find out.
Obviously you are only following this from Fox. You wait and see. Israel started this, and they will get what they were looking for.
prior to the attack, Iran showed their readiness to strike at Israel, claiming they had missiles ready for use if attacked. Israel destroyed those missiles, and we've seen Mossad agents operating in Iran.
What did Iran do in response? They launched 100 drones, all of which were intercepted. Later, they fired about 150 to 200 ballistic missiles, causing anxiety at best, but no direct fatalities from their missile strikes. Less than ten missiles managed to breach Israel's defenses.
Iran has fired at least 500 ballistic missiles at Israel, resulting in just one death, which occurred in Palestine.
Nateevs2: This did not age well. TelAviv already hit despite IronDome.
What did they hit? . Iran have used almost 2000 of their sophisticated ballistic missiles and they have managed to kill only a Palestinian in Palestine.
Similar to Operation Spider Web, Israel infiltrated Iran by planting short-range bombs and drones to eliminate key personnel and military assets, significantly crippling Iran's ability to respond.
This is particularly significant because Iran was flexing its ballistic missiles and preparing to attack Israeli and U.S. bases prior to this preemptive strike by Israel.
All of Israel’s achievements were accomplished in just 60 minutes, a task that could take the U.S. months to achive
Nateevs2: I never cared about Iran's defensive capabilities. They are surface-installed facilities and are sitting ducks as far as I am concerned.
But did they destroy Iran's offensive capabilities?That's what Israel should be concerned about.
Iran has no offensive capabilities. Their drones have all been intercepted, and Israel has ensured that their ballistic missiles cannot be launched, which is why we haven't seen Iran using them. Israel still needs to further degrade Iran's ballistic missile program..
What Israel just accomplished is incredible, to say the least. Iran's proxies have been weakened, and apart from their ballistic missiles, Iran has no significant way to reach Israel.
All of their drones have been shot down, and they didn't launch any ballistic missiles because Israel ensured they were unable to do so.
Also, they have intelligence and spies in Iran identifying key targets.
Nateevs2: That's why they needed a coalition of UK,US, France, Germany, Jordan to help them stop 300 outdated drones from Iran.
It must be true, but Hezbollah was flying reconnaissance drones for hours over Israeli airspace capturing critical data, and evading the almighty Iron dome.
It must be true because Israel said so.
You guys are going to be shocked.
Your reasoning is flawed.
I mentioned that Israel took out Iran's air defense systems before, and you were arguing against it. I bet you've confirmed it now.
Israel built the systems that the US used to shoot down those missiles and drones.
IjeBos: Yes. 1.) Have a stroke which causes brain cells to be damaged or die. 2.) Be depressed and have an irrational fear of the world that makes you suicidal. 3.) With that "what you call common sense" you will now sound like a Republican.
Sounds like a study someone posted here on the what makes people Republicans... a generalized fear of everything.
Yet, he is the one making sense.
You are boxed in a st-upid flex.
To you, the below does not make sense. It is something someone with stroke would say.
ijebosb: You should probably pick up a copy of the Constitution and then read it. You seem not to understand US law. Again, soldiers can't be used for Law enforcement outside the Insurrection Act which hasn't been declared.
It's odd that you say you've been in the US for years, yet still haven't assimilated to the US and US laws.
So, how is it that Gavin Newsom sued Trump over this issue and lost?
XerXers: These 4 SE A-List cities are experiencing unprecedented growth. I have been telling people that Aba GDP per Capita is highest in Nigeria apart from Abuja and Lagos but they argued, especially PH people with their "oyel" mentality . This stat proves me right
You will not live in Aba except you are a sales boy for curtain and tiles
ijebosb: You should probably pick up a copy of the Constitution and then read it. You seem not to understand US law. Again, soldiers can't be used for Law enforcement outside the Insurrection Act which hasn't been declared.
It's odd that you say you've been in the US for years, yet still haven't assimilated to the US and US laws.
IjeBos: To allow ICE to do their jobs of arresting people who they say are breaking the law by being in the US, the President should break the law and his oath to uphold the constitution by illegally sending US military to states? The very same thing Southern states said they fought the Civil War over.
It's a type of logic that is uninformed by any understanding of the Constitution nor history.
raumdeuter: They are out of touch, and how they manage to have their head stuck in the sand is amazing.
ICE was doing their work, you are stopping them, next you start protesting, burning law enforcement cars, attacking them, next stage looting private properties and destroying private and public properties Yet it's all peaceful according to Newsom and Bass
Some people's livelihood have been destroyed in those peaceful protests
Its like the peaceful protest on campuses where Jewish students were attacked and some places on campus where they pay tuition were out of bounds to Jewish students
The left has lost its mind.
Trump should have taken control of the national guard and ask: should we stop this? When newscum says nay, then they let the city burn while they advertise newscum hatred for law and order
IjeBos: As if you would even understand what Federalism is or how this all relates to the 2nd Amendment that the right keeps shouting about. What Trump is doing is part of the reason the framers of the Constitution envisioned a 2nd Amendment. I find it hilarious that we are hearing nothing from those on the right when a President is sending Federal troops into a state despite the express wishes of the Governor of that state.
Who would have thought that Republicans don't really believe nor understand all the things they run their mouths about.
I asked you a question:
What do you do when the police are unable to contain a riot? You have leaders who, in the past, have asked law enforcement to allow city blocks to be burned and looting to occur throughout city blocks.
These same leftists will say Trump didn't use the national guard if he let things play out and burned down.
BREAKING: In shocking footage of Trump in 2020 that is now going viral, Trump says it’s against the law for a president to call in the National Guard on his own: “We can't call in the National Guard unless we're requested by a governor.” MAGA = 🤡.
ijebosb: As opposed to logic from whatever school you graduated? Oh yeah, I forgot, you are boycotting Harvard. Lol.
What hesitation do you think a Nigerian President will have the next time he wants to send the military to shoot at Protestors when the US President is using the Military in a similar way?
Seems being confident in your ignorance is the in thing on the right now.
This is your second post, it still doesn't make any sense. If your city is burning due to rioters and the police are outnumbered and exhausted, who do you call in:
A. The national guard B. Personal Support Worker (cococrandy)
The conundrum stemming from the Trump v. Elon dichotomy is interesting. Both are valid based on their concerns on the spending bill however, serious matters shouldn't be discussed on social media instead of private phone calls.
Elon gave a lot to cut spendings. So I see why he is pained