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Physical - Spiritual
Visible - Unseeable
Flesh - Spirit

Slikbae:
Everything that has an original has a counterfeit. If God doesn't exist, where do evil people get powers from?

I believe that also, that everything that has an original has a counterfeit. That's a good one.

I'm curious to know answers to your question from those who don't believe spirits exist.

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Just like there's the natural and supernatural...

Exactly! Thanks.

It is my personal belief that there are mainly two sides to everything. And each sides exist ( I mean you can't say they don't exist, even the word 'empty' shows 'emptiness' exist in relation to 'full' ).

I'm talking about common opposites, absolute polar opposites to everything about life.

Some we know and we believe in them. Some we don't know but that doesn't mean they don't exist, they just simply mean we don't know.

Examples are:

Day - Night
Light - Darkness
Good - Bad
Strong - Weak
Left - Right
Solid - Liquid
Best - Worst
Right - Wrong
Logical - Unrealistic
Natural - Artificial
Permanent - Temporal
Tangible - Abstract
Wise - Foolish
Visible - Unseeable
Earthly- Celestial
Physical - Spiritual
Holy - Evil
Body - Spirit

All the above are opposites we believe exist. But why is it that some of us don't believe in the last one, that spirits exist. Isn't that enough proof?

Why should we believe in the existence of all forms of opposites but rule the last one out?

PaulIdu:
What are you even trying to defend

I'm wondering myself. I really wish I could. But Nigerians are just the same as everyone else. We're not that corrupt. Those representing us exaggerated it.

But PMB can manipulate your memory .

Na today? E don tey Since when PMB tenure start. What baffles me is they always know the exact figure looted even before it is confirmed. Na wa oooooo

vybzkartel:
Gay

OH dear! It takes one to know one. You can't even tell my gender.

I owe you love man, take heart.

RIP soldiers. I just hope boko wasn't trying to revenge

He has expressed optimism

That's a nice one cos it's unlike him.

OP, respect now. What are you teaching a whole Prof that he doesn't know already

vybzkartel:
Shut up

I've given you the attention you needed. I hope you're OK now?

I leave you with a long hug and many kisses

This should give wisdom to anyone making statements like 'soft targets'

vybzkartel:
You sound a real thief

You're funny. Don't forget we're Africans. You're like my brother from another mother.

I hope you get healed someday.

But next time you want to ask questions, do it without insulting. So you can get right and matured answers. It's not advisable to insult a whole country.

Please take care of yourself.

vybzkartel:
Do I need to tell you?

Thieves

Since you're so ashamed to tell us what we've stolen from you, then I think it's something that may put you to more shame. It's something that will make us believe you're a thief also. Or you're rather the thief but you were outsmarted.

I've never seen myself talking like this before. I can sense you're not innocent after all.

But if I'm wrong, please forgive us our sins. Believe me, we're just like everyone else in the world. We're not that bad. There are some good ones amongst us. And we're asking you to forgive us. We're sorry.

vybzkartel:
Thanks for accepting officially your country is a country of thieves

That's all i am saying

SSo what is your own?

You asked a question and I'm a Nigerian.

But can you tell me what they stole from you? Since you went from corruption to thieves. I won't be surprised if it's connected to a lover though.

Or are you calling us 'Ole' cos we stole your heart away ? please tell us.

First of all, OP, forgive me but I'll also call you a thief. So here is it. OP you're a THIEF!
That's for insulting us

Now, everyone, every country is corrupt. This is what I tell a certain country I visited when they asked the same question.:

The difference between Nigerians and other people is that Nigerians don't pretend. They show you who they are, they tell you who they are. You know our characters already and what we are capable of doing. So if you fall victim to our attitude, you should blame yourself cos you were already aware of our capabilities.

Secondly, those other countries are great pretenders. They come as wolves in sheep clothing. They treat you nice, make you trust them and then stab you at the back.
The worse is after committing such offense, they then blame it on Nigerians. Or that's when they remember the offender's ancestor is from Nigeria.

Anyway, which one do you prefer?
1. The devil you know
2. The angel you don't know.

Thief, please answer my question
Don't joke with my country man, till we're no more United by the name Nigeria. I won't stand here for some pretenders to judge us.

Besides, who are my to say we are not corrupt when our chief commander and defender already told you pretenders that we are not just corrupt but fantastically corrupt . So I don't blame you OP. You can keep it up

Well PMB has been the only innocent and honest citizen in the whole of Nigeria which sends strange signals through one's spine.

But OP, what lie are you talking about? I want to understand better. I mean what should we beware of?

I believe it's for peace sake. But they shouldn't dare him anymore.

It's obvious when shites are involved, everyone else in Nigeria goes to sleep. God have mercy on us.

Are Nigerians still fantastically corrupt since you came into power? Do you still maintain that ministers are noise makers? ( we always forget PMB is the minister of Petroleum - the charm na serious one).

Why do you always disgrace or insults us anytime you're interviewed outside the country? Why do you feel more comfortable being interviewed outside your own country?

Your excellency sir, do you still feel like absconding or you've gotten over it?

If he's gotten over it, he'll contest for 2019,then the real questions will be asked I guess.

I won't be surprised if this makes front page in a twinkle of an eye.

Somehow. Truly, the world is wiser than those who presides over churches. May God give us wisdom.

I guess this girl was also pregnant before she was kidnapped by boko boys

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Seun, you can mock all you want, use all the terminologies you desire, but know one thing; no matter how much you try to convince yourself that there's no God, it doesn't change the fact that there's a God, and that God is more real to some people than the very oxygen that sustains your life, and if not for that God and his mercies you wouldn't be alive and be making a mockery of things beyond your limited, human logic.

And no matter how you try to deny the existence of the realm of the spirit, the more your life is controlled by it.

But mark this date, one day you will still be the one speaking on behalf of this God, on this forum...mark my words..

The things of the spirit is foolishness to a carnal mind.

Like I always say, Christianity is based on faith and not logic.

AMEN! IN JESUS NAME! AMEN!

Wooooow, I couldn't even type JESUS in block letters.

Anyways, I realize many did not deny having such dreams but it seems they enjoy them and yearn for more. Hmmmm. If only the eyes of such are opened, if only.

OP, na wa for you oooo. If the Spirit of God left Saul because of his sins, is it my spirit that should replace the Spirit of God in Saul? Because definitely there should be a replacement.

AND yes, the evil spirit was from God. God will boldly tell you that because he is the creator of everything. He permits the evil spirit. Let me give you an example.

One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord , and Satan also came with them. The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord , “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.” Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.” “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.” The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.” Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.
Job 1:6-8, 10-12 NIV

That's the perfect example of "an evil spirit from God"

So OP, are you that kind of person that God can brag about in the presence of the devil? Or you're that person that the devil will not even waste his time to tempt, only to jump speedily into you just the replace the Spirit of God? Where do you fall into?

God is not afraid to tell you the evil spirit didn't come from him because He is the creator of everything and all things bow to Him. The question is, are you under God's protection or you're opened to the devil.

An evil spirit left the presence of God to torment Job but Job came out victorious because he was a righteous and a God fearing man but same couldn't be said of Saul.

OP, choose you this day whom you will follow.


And to your statement about an Holy God not beholding satan or so. You can get an idea from this:

“Am I only a God nearby,” declares the Lord , “and not a God far away? Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?” declares the Lord . “Do not I fill heaven and earth?” declares the Lord .
Jeremiah 23:23-24 NIV

79%? Really?

You've spent more than half of the budget, fine. But is it the same as implementation?

We can't wait to see that the money spent is really used in implementing the budget. I also hope we wouldn't waste time on 2017's budget.

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Thank you, my dear.
This is quite insightful from you.

The Lord is your strength!

Amen! Thanks

LaClicKLaBenDin:
It's evident that you're in the medical field...

Well, I can see we have different beliefs...but be that as it may, I'd still want to let you know that the world transcends logic.

Hello, how are you doing? Well-done

You know people have forgotten if they understand everything then they seize to be humans. That's why spiritual things can't be limited to logics.

Spiritual things do not make sense to the human mind. If you can find answers to EVERYTHING about God especially by scientific research then HE wouldn't be God anymore.

The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 1Cor2:14.

these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a personʼs thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.
1 Corinthians 2:10-13 NIV

[quote author=hopefulLandlord post=50635429][/quote]That's your creator speaking to you. Those are not my words. What a life! No one understands the language of love anymore. Or is it English you don't understand?

You're sounding as if HE told you to choose hell. If I should try understanding your meme, it means you've chosen hell already and you're blaming God or me for for your choice. What a life! Come on, you're smarter and far more intelligent than me.

EyeHateGod:
Nairaland is A public forum and the Religion section people do visit and so they learn one or two from the Arguments it's no news that Nairaland has Helped turned many Atheist... As an Atheist we Understand that God is Not going to come down from heaven to help anybody it's all left to us Humans But do Theist hold that kind of View? the theist actually care more About the Afterlife than they do this life so why try to fix anything?

really?

“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come! If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
Matthew 18:6-9 NIV

Modified: to hopefulLandlord

That's your creator speaking to you. Those are not my words. What a life! No one understands the language of love anymore. Or is it English you don't understand?

You're sounding as if HE told you to choose hell. If I should try understanding your meme, it means you've chosen hell already and you're blaming God or me for your choice. What a life! Come on, you're smarter and far more intelligent than me.

I just got to know obsession over sex is another excuse for not believing God exists.