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You see, scientists don't mostly agree with each other.

OP, when you sleep everyday and then wake up, what comes to your mind? Don't you know it means you die everyday because you're not conscious of yourself, infact you're not even in control of your body when you sleep.

Or do you think you just wake yourself up, I mean by yourself?

Please, next time post your topic without discrediting it before or concluding for theists. For crying out loud, that was an observation with a proof by a scientist. You killed my interest with your intro just before reading. Next time you want to discredit a scientist, do that with a scientific proof also.

You guys and mind games. You keep playing hide and seek with your creator. This creation still want to dictate to his creator how to act. Hmmmm!

Here goes your answer

For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Colossians 1:16-17 NIV

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
Matthew 25:41 NIV


For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from the Lord. But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.
2 Peter 2:4-12 NIV
http://bible.com/111/2pe.2.4-12.NIV

Even in my most painful moments I still give thanks to God. When I had no one to help, no money, no food, still, I gave thanks to God and asked Him for help. And when He sent help, I thanked Him. If He hadn't, I would still have thanked Him by His grace.

OP, it doesn't mean those of us thanking God for His blessings were never once like those suffering you're talking about. But we never stopped thanking God because He said in everything we should give thanks to Him.

OP, next time you see such people, make sure you do a survey from time to time and find out if you'll still see the same people in the same situation because I'm sure they would have gotten help through missionaries, NGO's and the rest.

Don't forget, "the poor you'll always have with you." The question is what will you do about it in your own little way?

We are not in a perfect world, we can't all be rich and healthy at the same time because it would mean we wouldn't even need each other.

AND don't forget that those who thank God for His blessings also pray for God to bless the needy.

HE MAKES ALL THINGS BEAUTIFUL IN HIS TIME

If science should really find out how life started, most scientists wouldn't believe it. They will go through any procedures to disprove it which will bring about arguments.

What am I even saying science doesn't even know the origin of Science itself.

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Too much satanic evangelism on nairaland.....agents of satan everywhere!

I just wish believers can be this active in spreading the gospel.

This is because the head of this site hasn't secured his soul, so it is easily exposed to all kinds of spirits. We have to do our part by allowing God use us to save those we can.

I suspect nairaland has won more souls against God. Online evangelism is very important now. May God help us and give us the grace to make it up to Him to the very end. And may He also be proud of us the way he was proud of Job even in the presence of the devil in the mighty name of Jesus, Amen.

He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in Godʼs temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
2 Thessalonians 2:4 NIV

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
2 Corinthians 11:14-15 NIV
http://bible.com/111/2co.11.14-15.NIV

“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come! If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
Matthew 18:6-9 NIV
http://bible.com/111/mat.18.6-9.NIV

shumuel:
If Jesus Christ himself rebukes satan from making him to do such as you have listed then i tell you boldly that no Christian on Earth can, if any say he/she can then believe me they are not of Chirst and God is not what the use.


Don't get me wrong, Chritians could and do perform healing miracles but not as you have requested, healing is of God and if he so wish it will happen.

Lastly, Jesus Christ already said it ''This generation shall seek for a sign but none shall be given unto them''

i rest my case

Good one dear.

The Pharisees remained unconvinced of Jesus’ claims about Himself, despite His having just cured a demon-possessed man who was both blind and mute. Shortly after the Pharisees accused Jesus of driving out demons by the power of Satan, they said to Him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here” (Matthew 12:38–41).

NOTE:This one is for satan because he alone understands it perfectly.

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isaiah 14:12-15 KJV
http://bible.com/1/isa.14.12-15.KJV



“Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: “ ‘You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: carnelian, chrysolite and emerald, topaz, onyx and jasper, lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones. Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings. By your many sins and dishonest trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries. So I made a fire come out from you, and it consumed you, and I reduced you to ashes on the ground in the sight of all who were watching. All the nations who knew you are appalled at you; you have come to a horrible end and will be no more.’ ”
Ezekiel 28:12-19 NIV
http://bible.com/111/ezk.28.12-19.NIV

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Hebrews 6:4-6 KJV
http://bible.com/1/heb.6.4-6.KJV

OP, I pray that God's grace will be more than enough for you to come back to Him.

To my fellow christians:
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end: That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises. For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee. And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.
Hebrews 6:10-15 KJV
http://bible.com/1/heb.6.10-15.KJV

May the Lord keep us in Him to the very end in Jesus name. It is said that the first shall become the last and the last, the first. But I pray, May we never be the first that shall be the last in Jesus name and may we never be the last hoping to be the first but then realize it's too late to be the first in the mighty name of Jesus.

AMEN!!!!!!

It seems we've all forgotten the desire of Satan to be in charge of heaven and all in it just like God, was the cause of His downfall. In other words, Satan wanted heaven as his abode, he wanted God's place because the glory, power and beauty he saw were just too much he wants to own them even till now.

So even the topic we are arguing on is false.

OP, I never knew you've come so close to Satan that you've come to know he doesn't desire heaven. I never knew that Satan loves you so much he can tell you his secret (yes, a secret because you're the only one who knows) that he never desired heaven which is contrary to the Bible ( funny enough, the book you chose to give life to your topic(lie)).

Those times you were a pastor, the beloved of Christ, the one who had the gift of knowledge. Did the Bible ever tell you that Satan doesn't desire heaven or he was even forcefully thrown down from heaven? Ehn OP.?

Well, the topic shouldn't be a discussion at all because the Bible doesn't support it. The topic is a big lie from the pit of hell. I thank God for Jesus who has uncovered it for us.

So Christians, please, let's leave this topic for them. It isn't our business since they know the devil better than God who chased him out of heaven not that the devil left heaven willingly.

And when people react to your stories in the same manner, you'll start crying. God help us.

Tinubu belongs to a political party, OBJ is not associated with any.

I hope he won't change his mind again.

Well, if you do good, good comes to you. If you do evil, the evil you do will come back to you.

But can we stop insulting our Presidents? It's a pity PMB has insulted us too especially on foreign media

Make una allow una president pass ooo. Because we do not have another president. He is the President of Nigeria, which Niger delta is a part of. I Don talk my own oo.

Please, If we want to rebuke or condemn or even correct someone, please and please, let's do it respectfully without insults. No matter how angry or frustrated we are, we should always be self disciplined in our approach.

OP! Can't you see your thread is full of comments that doesn't show good morals because you started it by calling this country a zoo?

No amount of corruption or quantity of bad leadership will make me hate my country because there must be a reason I was born into this country and I'll do anything to be part of the few who will bring about a positive change in my own little way.

The question should be is Satan willing to be forgiven?

Don't be so sure you can make the world a better place. You have to taste power before making such conclusion about yourself.

“In fact, she has set a bad precedent, as no president’s wife in Nigeria has ever exposed her husband to this state of shame and ridicule.

That's the fact. I quoted that so we don't believe the lie that PEJ did that also.

It hurts I gave this comment. I'm sorry first lady "wife of the President" because I understood your outburst. I'm sure PMB understands you now also.

Funny how one do anything to cover for someone. The way EVERYTHING is being defended and praised by this government breeds suspense.

Must you fight to show you are 100% perfect?. Come on! be wise for once by remembering you're human and not pretending to be God.

JEEZ

PMB prefers foreign media. Haven't we noticed? So I think We should hold the next presidential chat outside Nigeria to get his attention

I have an instinctive dislike for politicians. OP, you're very bias ehn. Only you dislike politicians yet you preferred one to the other.
Dr. Goodluck Jonathan, former president of Nigeria is not a better president than Mohammadu Buhari.

Well-done OP. The above made me not take your post seriously.

I will refer him to Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verse 1 where the scripture says “a good name is better than fine perfume …” He can not rewrite history.

OP, there's a difference between me building a good name and someone else destroying my good name. It's obvious who will receive divine punishment eventually.

But, history can not be rewritten with meretricious actions. If he had chosen to break his sabbatical of silence: he should speak truth. JUDGE! what makes you think he isn't speaking the truth or what makes you not think the issues against him weren't exaggerated?

But, politicians are always not true to their values. Abraham Lincoln said “If you want to test a man’s character, give him power” Also, Winston Churchill said “the price of greatness is responsibility”. Please, be presidential in your utterances and stop all forms of intellectual scaffolding. Nigerians will not give you consent of ignorance. Speak political niceties and be the elder statesman you have already become.
You don't have the right to judge when you've already chosen a politician after your heart. Forgive me OP, but the above write up of yours is obviously meant for your favorite politician.

It is politically incorrect for Dr. Goodluck Jonathan to say that; he fought corruption silently Politically incorrect? now I know it is "politically correct" to fight corruption on social media, to finalize one is corrupt before hearing in courts.

The insinuation that the present administration is fighting corruption noisily is rather uncharitable. thank God you voiced out your insinuation.

Corruption can not be fought secretly or silently as Dr. Goodluck Jonathan seems to be suggesting. There must be arrest and prosecution of politically exposed persons. This will generate news and not noise. The crusade against corruption must be total and holistic without any untouchable. There must not be any distraction, please.

Who told you corruption can't be fought secretly or silently? OP, you're more intelligent than me now what procedures or how do FBI or the secret police get hardened criminals?

You have to know GEJ is different from PMB. GEJ had no military standings or growth like PMB. He was like a chicken surrounded by cattles. So he had to use wisdom to fight corruption silently so he doesn't get distracted,or his plans thwarted. Though he never arrested anyone or make noise over it but his policies against corruption were right on point. Even those policies are those helping GMB to curb corruption effectively (if only he is fair though).

I admire the wisdom of GEJ. That's what you do when you're like a chicken in the midst of cattles. I don't know if anyone understands me.

I don't believe Amaechi can say that openly. We should be careful of how we report such news. Maybe it's a prophetic post

Anyway, If it's true he said so, then it doesn't show an iota of wisdom at all. I think he should be more careful with his speech from now on even among his supposed friends.

There's no fire without smoke.

It looks like 'jumping the broom'

Like seriously? na wa oooooo
So funny.
OP PMB dey do you strong thing.

OP you're a trouble maker.

Président Buhari ORDERS !!! Make na continue. Na no go still understand why women dey struggle to say YES SIR to una.

This is serious. The insult is just too much. FFK has gone mad. He doesn't care even about his own life anymore. He's really really hurt to the extent he feels ready for death.

Wooooow. He really went too far this time. Well, that is because EFCC also went too far this time.

Since you've called out to him, he'll return your call soon.

Love covers multitude of sin. Love is the greatest. Aisha should openly ask for forgiveness from her husband with a sincere heart.

If you embarrassed your husband publicly, then humbly and sincerely ask him for forgiveness publicly.

Aisha, PMB seems to know what he's doing. So face your business and leave his alone since that's the way he wants it.

Na English fault.

Yes, Aisha you cook in the kitchen but you don't BELONG to the kitchen.

But next time, protect your family with all you've got. For wives, Family comes first before others. There are wiser ways to save your husband.I pray God grants you such wisdom.

To me, women are Gate keepers. We keep the enemies away from our homes. PEJ got that right.