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Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 5:01pm On Sep 17, 2023
Makunahatata:
blablabla... I repeat if your papa see wetin I chop fr morning alone chop in a month , he go die a happy man.. u all this ABA gutter boys Sha..*spits
Another assumption!
grin
You never see me before but you don assume say I from aba grin
Obviously you never leave your crude village life before dem recruit you go town to become a glorified motor tout!

So much for who graduate with better grads yet dey act like an illit.era.te way nor even finish primary school grin

I nor wan tell you about my popsy because if I do,you go immediately enter my DM to either beg as usual or ask for employment! grin

Indeed social media nah leveler!
Even person way never chop better food today dey form Monaco fresh prince on top nairaland grin

Its well cool
TV/Movies › Re: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by bentenny(m): 4:53pm On Sep 17, 2023
Skrrrrrrr:
Lol. Una go just dey talk anyhow?
So someone flipping the bed when you are on it is not physical violence abi?
Guy no be fight grin
U r entitled to your opinions just like mine!
If that's a strike then biggie was lenient with Alex for giving her a warning rather than a strike for physically hitting a HM!
Make una dey calm down...no one gets paid for being right or wrong here!
TV/Movies › Re: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by bentenny(m): 1:50pm On Sep 17, 2023
Tatiana4u:
Biggy issued 2 strikes to Baye for committing a lesser offense!
From what I watched,a warning will suffice!
If this is a strike,the Alex deserved a strike for hitting Ike!
Baye's two strikes was due to separate incidence against ceecee and doyin which were physical!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 1:27pm On Sep 17, 2023
Makunahatata:
Mumu ! U think everybody broke like your family? Only advantage Obi had na cos his parent rich.. I pity ur children's life .. if dey fail like your Messiah, they are doomed.. WhatsApp, 50mb ,30k blablabla delusional 😂 .. if your papa chop wetin I chop this morning, he go die a happy man
grin
Broke?
You must think everyone begs on X for palliatives like you and your full family!
Obi's parents rich?
grin
A man who got all his earning/riches through his sweat!
At 35,he got his first apartment at the UK!
I guess you would also say that Bill gates or mark zuckerburg's parents were rich that's why they turned out rich!
Chai grin
What a shallow mentality for an individual with a low sense of worth like you!
grin grin
Even your gutter like utterances show that you cannot even afford 50 naira buns let alone 500 naira meatpie but you dey form Porsche grin
Nairaland sha grin
Nah here u dey make mouth....check now nah garri way paddyman arrange you yesterday nite after consistent begging with groundnut on credit you take dey hold body until your paymasters send you ur paltry monthly stipends depending on your impact on social media grin
What a path.etic way to live!
So much for having first class and yet nothing to show for it except constituting a hilarious nuisance on NL!
Sorry ohh
TV/Movies › Re: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by bentenny(m): 1:12pm On Sep 17, 2023
[quote author=kowema post=125838860] just watched the video again and there is nothing Pere did that would even warrant a strike!
A warning for goading would likely suffice but a strike for that?
Hell no!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 12:40pm On Sep 17, 2023
Makunahatata:
seems you're bored! Get it in your empty skull, failure is failure whether 3rd class or second class lower.. what's the difference.. 🤔 wayre u wan dey celebrate mediocrity 😂.. may your kids graduate with second class lower, oya say amen😒
I rather my self and kids acquire a less admirable pass from any institution but become successful in life like Obi and other distinguished personalities around the would than acquiring a 1st class and yet living from hand to mouth like you!

Interestingly,I thought your flawless qualification could have offered you a lucrative job as minister or even personal assistant to a senator or president or even Total or chevron!

Instead your superb CV could only qualify you for being on a payroll as an assistant to a jobless WhatsApp group admin that offers you a low budget itel android phone and a 'thank you' daily 50mb data with a paltry 30k which is dependent on how long you go online on social media to scream emilokan! grin
Sorry ohh
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 12:20pm On Sep 17, 2023
Enice:
Oga! Try to comprehend a comment first before you reply. My concern about Obi's education is that a man that's knowledgeable would not get Es and Fs in an examination which is prerequisite to what he claims to have achieved. Let me break it down for you properly. How can a university graduate (not even an under-graduate) write GCE and still be getting Es and Fs
You are also leaving out the most important requirements and dabbling into irrelevant and unnecessary stuffs!
The constitution is unambiguous about the requirements for being a president!
A minimum requirement is a WAEC certificate which he has presented hence he is qualified!
In fact the constitution even made a claim that if a person can actually read and write,they are qualified to run for public office!
Any other talk about the grades he may have acquired is irrelevant and straying into a totally different topic which I term as being evasive!
My question to you is what is the minimum requirement to be qualified to run as president of Nigeria according to the constitution?
If you can answer that question objectively, there would be no need for the back and forth!

Enough said!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 12:09pm On Sep 17, 2023
Makunahatata:
😂😂 shameless cow, bird of the same feather ,I won't be surprised if u sef carry second class lower Comot sch burn your papa money.. na your poor parents I pity😂

Which rocket smash ur papa? Hypocrites! , is your dull Obi also not planning to remove the same subsidy?
Your childish insults though amateurish have nothing on me!
So you agree that he actually obtained second class lower from UNN.... grin
Nice one...at least your dusty cranium is now getting the needed update and possible reboot from the right source!
How did subsidy removal enter this equation? grin
I would have engaged you on the new topic you inserted but first I doubt if that mass of water container your neck carries in discomfort can even reason properly to comprehend and secondly,I wouldn't want to allow you behave like your folly laden comrades that prevaricate when they have been boxed to a corner!
So stick to the issue!
T for Thanks! smiley
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 9:25am On Sep 17, 2023
Makunahatata:
oga leave epistle.. request for the Agulu born worthless 3rd class transcript and post make we see the hundreds of "F" he gathered 😂
Same way he monumental failure gathered F's in Anambra ...
We really dodged a bullet..
First,you do not know what an epistle implies!
Secondly,Its 2nd class lower not 3rd class
Thirdly,its your job to prove he has a certificate in a university!
You claimed you dodged a bullet but ended up being smashed by a rocket and you think you are smart?
Lastly,you type like a man who cannot reason on his own without an assistance!
Until you come up with a better clap back,endeavour to give your phone to another of your colleague who can actually engage me rationally though I doubt thats possible since the recruitment was based on your limited reasoning!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 9:09am On Sep 17, 2023
Makunahatata:
yenyenyen... Request for it and post na.. ode!
grin
You are actually the one with the highest honour of ode-son!
Even if I show you his academic qualifications right from his primary school,you will still talk because you have been paid to or your partisanship has attenuated your sense of reasoning!
I repeat...he who alleges must prove!
Get your lazy a.ss out of your disaster of a mattress and go make your findings instead of making noise on this platform with shared data from your WhatsApp group!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 8:59am On Sep 17, 2023
BENEAMATA:
The pandora papers that exposed shady dealings of hundreds of public figures worldwide came about through a hack job into the Dark web , an internet space that's supposed to be more secure than the normal legal world wide web . You cannot convict anyone with a competent lawyer with evidence obtained through illegality , on this occasion website hacking being the illegality . Obi and many of his ilks knows this , the anti- graft agencies know it too , the reason he can't be prosecuted .

And if a man has funds he acquired from legitimate means but hid such from his declared assets when he contested for and became governor for eight years , what type of clean conscience fears transparency ? Mind you , i said earlier when journalist quizzed him on this findings , he didn't deny having offshore companies where funds are linked to , rather he said he did it to save his children from paying inheritance tax . You should spend one hundredth of the hours you do reading one sided publications of Tinubu's scandals to actually read up on the obi's panama papers expośe and come back to tell us what you perused didn't expose his shady dealings and i'll tell you Atiku , Tinubu are saints .

And the fact you didn't get prosecuted doesn't mean your hands are clean ,we both know this . There might not be evidence overwhelming enough for prosecutors to nail you at a law court . If anything , the Obi boast of committing GRAFT on national t v , ( the state funds into a brewery company ) but i never heard EFCC pressing charges on that one .
Oga you are still saying the same thing!
If you have proof,nairaland is not a court!
If a man got his funds legally and put his funds or assets in a legal platform which in the eyes of the international law is legit,then he has committed no crime!
This is why the likes of FBI or interpol haven't arrested or charged him simply because his businesses are clean and in accordance with the law!

You are the one here trying to act as if you were an embodiment of all the laws in the world!
He has boasted several times to his opponents to reveal if he had ever done any illegal dealings!
Can the same be said about Tinubu or Atiku or any other personality that has graced the political sphere?
Has anyone in anambra challenged your evidence in a law court?
Until you take your case if strong to a court of law,everything said here is all noise!

You may be right that those who indulge in illegal activities esp in Nigeria are hardly prosecuted and its not far from the antigraft agencies inability or incompetence to provide solid evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that a crime was committed!
Most times, its the international security agencies that later arrest and prosecute these same people for instance James ibori,hushpuppi etc
Interestingly,Obi has been in UK since the 90s till date and not even Mi6 in the Britain have found anything on him!

Finally,I challenge everyone of you to present stone wall evidence against him at any federal high court!

Let me remind you that he is not a governor or a minister or a senator hence he is not immune to prosecution!
Hire a competent lawyer and press charges against him!

Do the same thing that Atiku did by making demands of the qualification content in Chicago state not on social media or nairaland...Enough said!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 2:16am On Sep 17, 2023
Sonyboom:
Awesome !
Can we now deduce that Tinubu is a saint as EFCC never touched for 16 years PDP ruled we all know he was in the opposition n both Obj n Ebele haunted him down yet they couldn't find a thing the man was spanking clean but what will you haters say ?

In regards to Obi, Tinubu as more important thing doing than chasing after a common criminal like Peter Obi. Let me give you a scenario imagine a governor loaded cash in his personal governor's convey n brought the money into his personal ware house all the way from Anambra to Lagos. He does this monthly till he was caught red handed by Marvel Akpoyibo then Lagos commissioner of police.

Mike Okiro the DG then was also a party to this n Obasanjo had to get involved if not Pandora.Obi will be cooling off in jail right now. This is the reason for the closeness btw Obj n Obi. It was this reason Pandora agreed to leave APGA after his tenure or risk Obj-PDP tarnishing his holier than thou fraudulent criminality.

Concerning why he was not arrrested internationally you seems to have forgotten he was indeed detained in his last UK trip before he japa like the fugitive diehard criminal that he is n since then have you seen the criminal visit UK again ?

I dare Peter Obi to visit the UK anytime soon. We all know he likes blabbing why as the Pandora criminal Peter Obi refused to tell Nigerian about the deal that lead to his jailing in the UK ?
You are mixing up things and confusing yourself even more!
Well Not surprised!

The issue of tinubu bothers on the authenticity of the certificate he submitted to INEC which if proven to be fake by the judge in chicago will invalidate and disqualify Tinubu as president based on perjury (if you even know what it means)

The idea of bringing EFCC was due to the fact that you claimed to have incriminating evidence abi proof of Obi's involvement in Pandora papers!

If you do set into the different agencies and submit your claims abi evidence not on nairaland!

EFCC has invited him and he has cleared his name of any wrongdoing!
If he actually committed such crime,the likes of FBI or interpol would have been on his trail which is evidence that he is not guilty of any crime both home and abroad!

You dared Obi to visit UK and he has been there several times and even took pictures!


Please get creative with your horrendous propaganda because the ones you are spinning currently and not only stale but covered with folly!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 1:35am On Sep 17, 2023
Sonyboom:
Same EFCC that couldn't convict James Ibori that took fees hours for UK to jail. De play.
Seems you were born today!
Which party was james ibori then?
Which party was the president then?
EFCC belongs to the FG and in this case,Tinubu is now in control of them!
Are you saying EFCC is afraid of Peter Obi or does he pay their salary?
If EFCC had any evidence against Obi,he would be in jail by now until the tenure of Tinubu expires but they have nothing on him because he is not guilty!
Its that simple!

If EFCC conviction is the standard why then do you run your foolish mouth on Tinubu when be is yet to be convicted by same EFCC or will you like me to tell you what Ribadu said about Tinubu impeccable character ?!
When you have nothing to say or have exhausted the remaining matter in your cranium,you resort to insults and gutter talk only to expose your folly!
Now look at what you wrote again!
What was one of the first thing Tinubu did when he was sworn in,was it not to remove the current EFCC chairman?
Why do you think he did that?
You say EFCC is not standard,since Pandora papers is an international criminal affair,how come international security outfits like FBI or interpol have not arrested Peter Obi while he was travelling? Think oga!
Make una try dey engage una brain before typing!
Advise no be curse!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 12:37am On Sep 17, 2023
Sonyboom:
Finally you said something sensible all day long. So all your allegations on Bola Tinubu you can now go with your father to a competent court of jurisdiction n prove it.

As long as you fail to prove it in court but still continue to malign the man without getting a conviction that is as long as I will continue to expose the criminal active of Peter Obi without seeking a conviction.

This should end the back n forth.
The matter is already in court and there are evidences all over the internet which proves that there was forgery on the certificate submitted by Tinubu to INEC!
The certificates are before the judge and will soon give an expected verdict to show that the certificate Tinubu presented to INEC was fake!

Likewise, you can take your beer parlour gists with the full compliment of your family members including your own father to a competent court of law and let's see if an average judge worth its salt in Nigeria won't toss such allegations laced with hilarious hearsays to the dirt bin!

I laugh in Swahili.....
If EFCC that is part and parcel of the FG could not find anything incriminating against Obi,which other Pandora document do you want to use against him?

Keep playing!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 12:17am On Sep 17, 2023
BENEAMATA:
True , the burden of proof rest with the accuser , so here is a few ,

Facts -

He invested state funds into company he has shares in . We know because Obi the dullard chatterbox bragged about it as one of his " go and verify " achievements on national tv .

He was maintaining a foreign bank account months into his tenure as a governor and public office holder , but then Obi the dullard claimed he was unaware he couldn't do such . We believed him anyway .

Then the Pandora papers started flying everywhere that exposes his dealings concerning offshore companies he runs in monaco and british virgin island while he was a governor , which was not previously declared among his assets . The crook opened an offshore company in the name of his family of four in tax haven countries and months later also opened another that it's sole purpose is to be the sole beneficiary of any funds that the first company made and of course Ali baba's first son is the only name this second " company " registered as the chairman , c.e.o . And when journalist confronted him with hard evidence , him too lie said he did it to help his children avoid inheritance tax , where there are more than half a dozen not illegitimate ways to by-pass such tax , or you simply let the beneficiaries handle paying 10% or less of their new riches .

You see , these guys are not saints . Don't glorify one crook while demonizing the other . How does that portray as morally upright to judge ?
You started off well but ended up misconstruing allegations as facts!
Most of what you have said are more or less beer parlour gists laced with a heavy dose of hapless propaganda!

When you accuse someone of stealing,you must have important documents like account details and bank statements from source to back your claims not write-ups and insinuations that are coughed out based on sentiments to score cheap political points!

As for the Pandora's papers,the EFCC had invited Peter Obi and after that,EFCC have said nothing or linked the Pandora's papers to Peter Obi!
Its a clear case of admission that they had nothing on him with respect to the Pandora's papers!

If EFCC had new evidence to nail Peter Obi,trust me,it would have happened now but they have found nothing on him up until now even when he beat his chest to ask anyone with incriminating evidence against him to bring it forward and he will quit his political campaign!
How many politicians that have attained the milestone of Obi can say that they haven't stolen government funds with their full chest?

Your last statements are true because he had recently stated clearly he is no saint and if we are to be honest,none of us are saints and have engaged in one or two activities that are not permitted by our laws!

But if a man can come out and ask Nigerians to check if he has stolen any money from government coffers and yet no one has come out with stone wall proof,then he should be believed!
Can we say the same of a president who is trying to block or impede people from finding out the contents of his educational qualifications?
Has Obi blocked anyone from accessing his certificate from UNN?
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 10:45pm On Sep 16, 2023
Sonyboom:
So you don't see enough prove below of Peter Obi criminality ?
Have you heard that quote before?
'He who alleges must prove'

If you accuse someone of an allegation,its your job to prove by providing evidence and charging him to court!
Failure to prove your allegation will only make your hapless links of allegations look like a mere propaganda!
Its that simple!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 10:23pm On Sep 16, 2023
Enice:
Someone that did GCE after graduating for the university! And still got straight Es and Fs at that! Which kind idiocy be this self
The constitution permits submitting a minimum waec result
or any other higher qualification as requirement to aspire to become president as long as the certificate presented is genuine and not fake like the CSU certificate presented by Tinubu which the institution is doubting its authenticity!
Once again,if you are doubting his UNN certificate, go to the institution and freely obtain with zero hindrance a statement of his certificate!
U can even access his UNN certificate by also heading to NYSC where his qualification can be accessible!
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 9:55pm On Sep 16, 2023
Sonyboom:
Only in Nigeria will a whole tribe complain about a criminal as governor but suddenly declare him a saint when he contest to be the president.

Now tell him if that is not tribalism n bigotry in full glare of the entire human race
.

As I know mention any name watch how bunch of pathetic foolish human from a section of the country will be quoting me relentless like say na thief their destiny into my daughter's Pandora account.
Isn't it interesting that none of these acclaimed allegations had no single proof attached to it?

If indeed there was evidence and not these hilarious and hapless noise,you and your paymasters would have used it to either silence obi or imprison him!

He has challenged you and your WhatsApp group handlers to show proof of your series of mindless propaganda and yet none of you have been able to do so!

Since Tinubu has the judiciary in his pocket,take him to court nah grin
Politics › Re: Nigeria Swinging Dangerously Away From True Democracy, Obi Releases New Message by bentenny(m): 9:48pm On Sep 16, 2023
Makunahatata:
Obi show us your transcript...😒
Its at UNN
You can easily request for it the same way you requested for his secondary and primary results and it was easily assessable!
However,the same cannot be said about your paymaster who is currently pleading with the judge in Chicago state not to disclose his qualification documents esp the original Chicago state university certificate to Atiku!
Politics › Re: FFK Blames Peter Obi & Obidients For Obasanjo's Disrespecting Of Yoruba Monarchs by bentenny(m): 9:39pm On Sep 16, 2023
Peter Obi lives rent free in the brain of FFK!
He will likely blame Obi for his series of divorces!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs Brighton (1 - 3) On 16th September 2023 by bentenny(m): 5:09pm On Sep 16, 2023
enemyofprogress:
I can bet with my blokos that onana no go get any clean slate throughout the season
But he had one against wolves!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs Brighton (1 - 3) On 16th September 2023 by bentenny(m): 4:56pm On Sep 16, 2023
Rubyjade:
You bet ba? Lol!
I dey surprised!
Team way never lose dey lose to won never win this season!
Interesting!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs Brighton (1 - 3) On 16th September 2023 by bentenny(m): 4:48pm On Sep 16, 2023
How is Tottenham losing to Sheffield united?
Romance › Re: Why Do Women Easily Fall For Bad Boys? Than Responsible Ones. by bentenny(m): 4:30pm On Sep 16, 2023
The starve the ladies of something that is valuable to them: ATTENTION
TV/Movies › Re: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by bentenny(m): 12:55am On Sep 16, 2023
70 years old man Soma grin
TV/Movies › Re: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by bentenny(m): 12:05am On Sep 16, 2023
Biggie had already told them whether win or loss,they will still be provided with what they needed for the weekend!
Nothing like starvation for them!
Politics › Re: Photo: Transcript Of Bola Tinubu From Chicago State University by bentenny(m): 7:44pm On Sep 15, 2023
johnjose68:
You will burn down the country? We have taken note of this threat for posterity. You cannot delete it. God don catch you grin
As usual,most of you with cornfused brains will never comprehend!
When you allow impunity to continue unabated,lawlessness is inevitable!
Once there is lawlessness,the country being set ablaze is a matter of time!
Common sense is indeed not common!
Go and check what happened
Politics › Re: Photo: Transcript Of Bola Tinubu From Chicago State University by bentenny(m): 7:20pm On Sep 15, 2023
Goke7:
Then leave the court to decide but the university has said he graduated so what are you going to do now, burn the country?
The court which is not that of naija will likely rule in favour of Atiku and reveal that the certificate presented to INEC by Tinubu was fake!
Nobody is contesting his Chicago state university attendance or result,what is being contested is the genuineness of the certificate that was presented and his inability or refusal to reveal his qualification!

As for burning down the country,when impunity is permitted to persist unabated just like insecurity in the north,the possibility of the nation being set on fire is inevitable!
Politics › Re: Photo: Transcript Of Bola Tinubu From Chicago State University by bentenny(m): 6:21pm On Sep 15, 2023
Goke7:
You guys are becoming a laughing stock, the university has confirmed he did attended the University and there is a document backing it up.

Initially you lots say its rigging, then drug then certificate, age etc. are you guys that idle that you don't have time for other things haba
You are not making any sense with your latest writeup if you really understood what I meant!

The issue is the authenticity of certificate that was presented to INEC which bears a host of inconsistencies esp the signatories!

That's why the CSU lawyer was adamant to confirm if the certificate being used by Tinubu was genuine or not!

At times,its hard to comprehend when your likes are typing with emotions!
If it comes out that the certificate was not from CSU or was rejected by CSU,Tinubu will have to explain where he got such certificate which might likely disqualify him!

Its that simple!
Politics › Re: Photo: Transcript Of Bola Tinubu From Chicago State University by bentenny(m): 5:53pm On Sep 15, 2023
Goke7:
You guys better look for another excuse o, the whole thing is becoming laughable
Unless you are ignorant or claiming ignorance of the latest coming from Chicago state where
the CSU lawyer admitted he doesn't know if the certificate submitted by Tinubu to INEC was authentic!

If the certificate proves to be an 'oluwole' certificate submitted to INEC, Tinubu will have to be disqualified because that is outright perjury according to the constitution!

What should be laughable is the mere fact that a president is trying to stop people from confirming that his qualification documents in a foreign country is authentic!
What is he hiding if indeed he is clean?
Is he afraid that his true age will be brought to light which might mean a second perjury committed?
Politics › Re: Photo: Transcript Of Bola Tinubu From Chicago State University by bentenny(m): 4:18pm On Sep 15, 2023
NotProphet:
Una done formulate transcript 🤣🤣🤣
CSU denied the formulated certificate
Una done go formulate another one 🤣
The transcript is not even the issue but whether the certificate submitted to INEC was fake!
Politics › Re: Photo: Transcript Of Bola Tinubu From Chicago State University by bentenny(m): 4:12pm On Sep 15, 2023
The real question is did he submit a certificate that was forged?
If so,then he should be disqualified according to the constitution!
If the CSU lawyer cannot authenticate if the certificate submitted to INEC was genuine and came from the institution,then there is a problem which implies that the certificate presented was fake!

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