₦airaland Forum

seunny4lif:
In Texas, GOP supporters have called for a referendum next year on whether the state should secede from the United States.

They haven't seen anything... Sanctions killing sanctioner...
What a time to be alive...

joyandfaith:
Russia has been a land grabbing nation historically. Putin is interested in one of the largest gas reserve in donbas region. Russia has been using method you described to acquire lands and russified inhabitants of those lands for centuries.

Stop saying Russia has been a land grabbing nation historically, I thought we already through with this...
We know the real land grabbers..

joyandfaith:
Yes, USSR army was suicidal in fighting against nazi army. Crimea region belongs to Ukraine.

Crimea does not belong to Ukraine...

joyandfaith:
Putin said he wouldn't invade Ukraine in January. Putin said Ukraine is not a country.

Putin did not invade Ukraine...
He simply recognized two republic and declare a special military operation to denazify Ukraine.

joyandfaith:
Yes, Russians won In just 4 days. Oh I forget war is now 4 months

Did Russia tell you they'll finish the special operation in 4 days?? It's going as planned..

joyandfaith:
My post is for those who can connect the dots not for shallow thinkers.
Soviet casualties were more than of NAZI army.

My reply is to prevent the spread of ignorance to nairaland populace..

No one is talking about casualties here, the thread is not about that...

Achilles881:
Meanwhile, the Lagos tinubu met had all the ethnic groups in Nigeria residing in eat, it also contain all the heavy infrastructures like Bridges flyovers ,power stations, many federal and state government offices, highest population density that is higher than the whole southeast and south south combined, highest land reclamation record in Nigeria, headquarter of all multinational companies in Nigeria, all the ports ,alaba International market ladikpo spare parts market, most existing market with exception of computer village, cos computer hasn't penetrated Africa as it has now,all this were already in place, highest development index in Nigeria, before even any of this tinubu online urchins were born, as of this period the military were still ruling, most states in Nigeria including anambra state were still glorified villages, buba marwa was touted then as the best military governor. Lagos was growing like every other big city in the world, it was growing faster than Seoul in South Korea, faster than Singapore, faster than beinjing in China, Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia, Vietnam, and Cairo in Egypt, but since tinubu took over, all this cities are now miles ahead of Lagos, in other words tinubu took stalled the growth and development of Lagos, but his online urchins are trying to rewrite history, telling us that all these things Lagos had came from tinubu, even while he was in his mother's womb in iragbiji, he was already building Lagos, na wao..

What concern you with Lagos in the first?
What's your problem with Lagos??
If you're not satisfied with how Lagos is run, then go back to where you came from..

I still can't understand your problem with Yoruba land and it people...
Yesterday it was Awolowo, Today it's Tinubu..
Are you not tired?

One day you guys will explain what Tinubu did to you...

vasel15:
You are a pure anuman 30,000 igbos killed was even before the civil War, would you want to remain in a country that killed 30,000 of of your people? may the gods continue to punish you even after you leave this world and when you come back your punishment will continue

You can cry and curse Nigeria from now till the end of the year but history will never how your forefather Azikwe sold us into indirect slavery through his words and actions...

Ironsi cemented everything, so you guys should stop crying because you're the major cause of our problem today...

Nonsense!

joyandfaith:
About 30% Ukrainians were part of Soviet Army. Stalin was a Georgian and he was from Caucasus region.
Soviet minorities play huge role in success of soviet Army. Also,lend-lease act helped USSR to get needed supplies from UK and USA.
Defensive war is different from offensive war. Russian empire won Napoleon Army. Russians defended. They did not attack. Nazi Army invaded USSR. In military doctrine, to subdue a nation successful, x3 of military forces are required. Nazi and Napoleon Armies did not have the numbers. So they lost.

Russia can subdue Ukraine as soon as possible if Putin is ready to order general mobilisation. If he does that, the war would be brutal. Can Putin afford to sacrifice 500k soldiers because he wants to grab more lands? 500k KIA usually mean 1.5 WIA.
Note that 10 to 15% of forces are used in active combats. Other personnels are usually involved in logistics-medical, maintenance, supplies etc.

With above information, 4M kia or wia mean Russia need to mobilise about 15M men to fight Ukraine combined forces of about 5M( general mobilisation)with 10 to 15% of them in combat zone.

At what cost?
The cost would be too much for Russia and Ukraine. China will help to rebuild Russia thereafter while EU/USA would rebuild Ukraine.

No one ask you about the ethnic composition of Soviet union or the ethnicity of Stalin...
Stay on line and stop trying to underrate the massive blow that was dealth to Nazi Germany..

joyandfaith:
About 30% Ukrainians were part of Soviet Army. Stalin was a Georgian and he was from Caucasus region.
Soviet minorities play huge role in success of soviet Army. Also,lend-lease act helped USSR to get needed supplies from UK and USA.
Defensive war is different from offensive war. Russian empire won Napoleon Army. Russians defended. They did not attack. Nazi Army invaded USSR. In military doctrine, to subdue a nation successful, x3 of military forces are required. Nazi and Napoleon Armies did not have the numbers. So they lost.

Russia can subdue Ukraine as soon as possible if Putin is ready to order general mobilisation. If he does that, the war would be brutal. Can Putin afford to sacrifice 500k soldiers because he wants to grab more lands? 500k KIA usually mean 1.5 WIA.
Note that 10 to 15% of forces are used in active combats. Other personnels are usually involved in logistics-medical, maintenance, supplies etc.

With above information, 4M kia or wia mean Russia need to mobilise about 15M men to fight Ukraine combined forces of about 5M( general mobilisation)with 10 to 15% of them in combat zone.

At what cost?
The cost would be too much for Russia and Ukraine. China will help to rebuild Russia thereafter while EU/USA would rebuild Ukraine.

No one ask you about the ethnic composition of Soviet union or the ethnicity of Stalin...
Stay on line and stop trying to underrate the massive blow that was dealth to Nazi Germany..

joyandfaith:
About 30% Ukrainians were part of Soviet Army. Stalin was a Georgian and he was from Caucasus region.
Soviet minorities play huge role in success of soviet Army. Also,lend-lease act helped USSR to get needed supplies from UK and USA.
Defensive war is different from offensive war. Russian empire won Napoleon Army. Russians defended. They did not attack. Nazi Army invaded USSR. In military doctrine, to subdue a nation successful, x3 of military forces are required. Nazi and Napoleon Armies did not have the numbers. So they lost.

Russia can subdue Ukraine as soon as possible if Putin is ready to order general mobilisation. If he does that, the war would be brutal. Can Putin afford to sacrifice 500k soldiers because he wants to grab more lands? 500k KIA usually mean 1.5 WIA.
Note that 10 to 15% of forces are used in active combats. Other personnels are usually involved in logistics-medical, maintenance, supplies etc.

With above information, 4M kia or wia mean Russia need to mobilise about 15M men to fight Ukraine combined forces of about 5M( general mobilisation)with 10 to 15% of them in combat zone.

At what cost?
The cost would be too much for Russia and Ukraine. China will help to rebuild Russia thereafter while EU/USA would rebuild Ukraine.

No one ask you about the ethnic composition of Soviet union or the ethnicity of Stalin...
Stay on line and stop trying to underrate the massive that was dealth to Nazi Germany..

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LilyColin:
So what?


Meanwhile, Selfish Seun is one of the many problems of this useless/evil country.

Dem don buy him

A problem because he's saying the fact??
But you guys enjoy dragging Atiku and Tinubu on baseless assumptions...

LilyColin:
So what?


Meanwhile, Selfish Seun is one of the many problems of this useless/evil country.

Dem don buy him

A problem because he's saying the fact??
But you guys enjoy dragging Atiku and Tinubu on baseless assumptions...

Putin has never said he'll nuke a country first. .. Western media and rats trying their best to sell putin goodness as evil to the world...

Evil calling "Good" evil

We're tired of hearing his noise... You cannot support people that killed Sankara, Lumumba, Gaddafi, people hell bent on destroying us economically, culturally and expect us to pity you.

Nonsense!

tamdun:
Zelensky address African leaders, Africa don suffer

Just imagine, we're supposed to be bigger than this...

I hope they haven't change mouth now... They need to tell us about the economic outlook of Western countries, I want to check something...

Etinosa1234:
What's this clown saying

U couldn't even answer my questions clearly and u are telling me u have dealt with people like me..

Well, I'll let it pass if it let's u sleep well at night

Someone who attended a conference to partition Africa and didn't oppose the partition due to economy constraints is who u are trying to paint as saint because they were unable to carry out their part

The original person I quoted claimed that Russia was not invited to the Berlin conference before I then exposed her lies.. Now the goalpost has now been shifted by u to whether they actually colonized Africa ...

Who's the goalpost shifter now?

U go deh alright las las

It seems you're not ready to answer my questions...
Have a nice life..

Etinosa1234:
What's this clown saying

U couldn't even answer my questions clearly and u are telling me u have dealt with people like me..

Well, I'll let it pass if it let's u sleep well at night

Someone who attended a conference to partition Africa and didn't oppose the partition due to economy constraints is who u are trying to paint as saint because they were unable to carry out their part

The original person I quoted claimed that Russia was not invited to the Berlin conference before I then exposed her lies.. Now the goalpost has now been shifted by u to whether they actually colonized Africa ...

Who's the goalpost shifter now?

U go deh alright las las

It seems you're not ready to answer my questions...
Have a nice life..

seanfer:
You are okay with Russia protecting its own interest but have issues with Lithuania doing the same?

Any bodies that's pushing Lithuania is not wishing them good... Well, I heard they already step down. ..

Etinosa1234:
Lmaoooo... What's ur point..

So u feel the reason Russia didn't come to Africa was because they like blacks

Same country that their economy was in crumbles despite having the largest empire in Europe and Asia??

Same country that attended the Berlin conference and was not recorded to be an opposition to colonialism in Africa

Why don't u check the state of the economy in the late 19th century and see the reasons why the October revolution happened?
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U think u are smart but u are not

And I'm not even joking

Stop trying to shift goal post and answer my question properly... I've dealth with nany like you both online and offline, so yours won't be the first...
I'll ask you once again...
Did Russia colonize Africa or not??
You mean Belgium, Spain, Portugal all
had a colony in Africa but Russia can't
because they were poor??

joyandfaith:
Who is talking about UK here? Are u saying we should be driving back to the past? There old treaties which should remain in place for peace to reign.
Russia has the habit of driven out original inhabitants of a regime to pave way for Russification of the region. Kaliningrad and Crimea are recent examples. UK didn't do that.
Yes, allied powers agreed that USSR should control Kaliningrad a spoilt of war but not to expel Germans. England in her history usually established indirect rule in conquered lands not expulsion of natives and replacement by Britons. That was the reason Britain was referred to as a Culture empire and Russia as a land empire. Why do you think there are enclaves of Russians in many parts of former USSR? Part of Russification agenda was to relocate native Russians or Russified people to other regions with fewer Russians. You can learn more about Russified.

Hausa/fulanis did similar things in Jos North and they are still doing the same in other parts of the country through migration. RUGA.

Get your facts right before replying me pls... US and UK agreed to the expulsion, you can make your research...
Russification is just another word coined by the West to demonize Russia... So people cannot choose to live anywhere in their country...

Britain culture empire my foot, why are you deceiving yourself??

Are Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland a joke to you?
The same Britain that take over native indians land and make sure they'll never have a say again...
Are you the one in US today??
You'll be talking as if everyone on nairaland is ignorant... Hope your next step won't be finding an excuse to justify European( mainly Britain) land grabbing?

joyandfaith:
Who is talking about UK here? Are u saying we should be driving back to the past? There old treaties which should remain in place for peace to reign.
Russia has the habit of driven out original inhabitants of a regime to pave way for Russification of the region. Kaliningrad and Crimea are recent examples. UK didn't do that.
Yes, allied powers agreed that USSR should control Kaliningrad a spoilt of war but not to expel Germans. England in her history usually established indirect rule in conquered lands not expulsion of natives and replacement by Britons. That was the reason Britain was referred to as a Culture empire and Russia as a land empire. Why do you think there are enclaves of Russians in many parts of former USSR? Part of Russification agenda was to relocate native Russians or Russified people to other regions with fewer Russians. You can learn more about Russified.

Hausa/fulanis did similar things in Jos North and they are still doing the same in other parts of the country through migration. RUGA.

Get your facts right before replying me pls... US and UK agreed to the expulsion, you can make your research...
Russification is just another word coined by the West to demonize Russia... So people cannot choose to live anywhere in their country...

Britain culture empire my foot, why are you deceiving yourself??

Are Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland a joke to you?
The same Britain that take over native indians land and make sure they'll never have a say again...
Are you the one in US today??
You'll be talking as if everyone on nairaland is ignorant... Hope your next step won't be finding an excuse to justify European( mainly Britain) land grabbing?

joyandfaith:
Kaliningrad used to be a german city for 200 years until 1945. USSR expelled all Germans after ww2. The city was repopulated with Soviet citizens mostly Russians.
The same thing USSR did in crimea. All crimean tartans were expelled to Turkey and region was russified after ww2. Many Crimeans returned to their native lands afer collapse ussr.

USSR is all about Russia. Other nationalities are slaves in ussr. They even used them as cannon fodders against Nazi Germany.

You could've expantiate on everything you wrote and stop trying to demonize the Russia race by stopping halfway...
Russia annexing Kaliningrad was agreed to by the US and UK, the main aim is to further weaken the German influence in the Baltics... Kaliningrad has change hand throughout history, Poles once control it for over 200 years including Russia empire too... Everything that happen in Kaliningrad was agreed to by the Big three...

USSR is mainly about Russia? Yes I agreed they're the main.. Hope you also agreed that the UK is all about England and all other nationalities are slave in it?? Or US is all about the thirteen English colonies and the rest are slaves??

Do you have evidence of them being used as cannon fodders or should we start talking about how Ukrainian side with the Nazi Germany??...

Etinosa1234:
Oga.. They didn't participate because they couldn't cover the funds as their economy was bad...

From they were not at the table to they were invited but ...

Check out their economy as at the late 19th century and stop mincing words for a white man that doesn't give a f for u

You mean Belgium, Spain, Portugal all had a colony in Africa but Russia can't because they were poor??
Some of you will just talk for the sake of talking... SMH

DMerciful:
Onitsha belongs to all Nigerians just like Lagos however some people are too afraid to venture

Okay.

DMerciful:
Before Nigeria, the people that calld themselves Yorubas today never referred to themselves as Yorubas.

They were fighting a never ending war until the white man came to force them together. Now, to get a bigger chunk of Niger Delta oil money, they’ve bound together pretending that, all those who now refers to themselves as Yorubas are one and can rule anywhere in SW, such deceit!

They don't seems to understand the meaning of one Nigeria they've been defending. One Nigeria means every Nigerian has eqaul stake in every inch of Nigeria. Lagos especially belongs equally to all Nigerians as the resources used in developing Lagos came from all Nigerians.

Igbos are arguably the biggest beneficiaries of Lagos, deal with it!

Hope Onitsha too belong to the whole Nigeria according to your analysis...

Slynation:
I have lived and dine with the Northerners and one thing is certain, they are always United for their people whenever there is Election...While the South are divided with Southwest the prodigal son always going astray...!!

What a rubbish assessment!
I've nothing more to say, I know your type.

Slynation:
So you believe the South West will vote there Son Tinubu but the North will vote Tinubu ahead of two of their Sons Atiku and Kwakwanso...

Your analysis is proudly sponsored by Jamaican ganja...!!

Stop fronting the North as one entity and splitting the South.. Mention Nortg East and West separately...
You can come again now..

Slynation:
Hahahaha.... It's obvious the South West are the real 5% zone in all ramifications Even the Lagos is been flooded by Igbos

I know you wish they are but it's not happening. I can feel your pain

Slynation:
Hahahaha.... It's obvious the South West are the real 5% zone in all ramifications Even the Lagos is been flooded by Igbos

I know you wish they are but it's not happening. I can feel your pain

leofab:
even Stalin stated that without those aids Russia won’t go no where.. the west eve supplied both Cotten and food to the Russian soldiers abs populations including every things needed to manufacture their own armament.. 12% is already made weapons..BRO RUSSIA IS TO GERMAN what ukraine is to Russia tomorrow.. I know one day if ukraine wins Russia and become a world power they will downplay the role of the west.. should we talk of China and how the west liberated and industrialized them ?

You're not wrong with Stalin statement but trust me it's a friendly statement anyone could've said to an ally.. Don't forget the Soviet were not prepared for an attack, it was a surprise offensive..

Comparing then Soviet to modern day Ukraine clearly shows you're not a good student of history, Soviet is a superpower then..

No one is downplaying the role the West played but you're the one overplaying it. Soviet, US, British were all after their own interest. Infact Soviet is the main country that support mainland China from 1937/41 before signing the non-aggression pacts.

Guess what western countries were doing then?? US continue being an economic partner with the Japanese supplying them with automobile parts and other needed things for the war while the British support the Japanese invasion...

Japan only occupied part of China and most of those place were liberated by Soviet army..
Why are you guys always trying to downplay Soviet role?? Without Soviet the Japanese won't have surrendered in 1945. They destroy over a million kwantung army which was the main Japanese army, liberate Manchuria, Mongol, Korea. What more do you expect?..

A Japanese official was quoted as saying
"More than Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Soviet entering into the war was our demise"

You should stop trying to revise history.

leofab:
where is the lie ? Soviet Union wasn’t an alliance; they were all suppressed and added to the RusEmpire.. When Hitler partitioned Poland with Stalin; hitler imprisoned all the polish officers captured while Stalin executed his… read up on Molotov - Ribbentrop pact of 1941.. The German are far more honorable than the Russians.. In every war the victors writes the story that’s why the evil of Russians wasn’t really highlighted!…

You said if not for the West Russia would've been German farmland? You're wrong and i'll give two reasons.
1. Less than 20 percent weapons used to fight off Germany were provided by the west, I think It's actually 12 percent or so. So how come you attribute Soviet victory to the West? While you're trying to shift post, the fact is that Europe would've been German land If not for Russia..

2. Hitler greatest mistake was invading Soviet union but what do you expect.. After conquering almost all mainland Europe, he probably thought Soviet would be a piece of cake.. A neutral Soviet could've won the war convincingly for the German, you and I know that..

Evil of Russia??
The most evil empires in history are Western empires, the effects of their evilness, brutality and selfishness are still being felt today..

I'm busy now, I would've expantiate more..

leofab:
Russians are trouble makers the is why hitler acted quickly to contain them.. if not for the west lend and lease Rusland would have been German farmland..

What a lie!
What do you gain by lying like this? Nairalanders are not ignorant.

leofab:
Russians are trouble makers the is why hitler acted quickly to contain them.. if not for the west lend and lease Rusland would have been German farmland..

What a lie!
What do you gain by lying like this? Nairalanders are not ignorant.

Oilwell:
Bros Igbos dont hate yorubas . I am Igbo in the oil and gas sector. My two best friends are yorubas. we all met in 2006, christians on fire for God, we are all in our 40s, making/closing deals and live here in PH. I am surprised when I read all this in Nairaland. They are all rooting for Obi here.

Our younger generation you guys need to enlighten your minds. I dont know who feed you guys these lies.

Forget this tribal/ ethnic politics its not taking us anywhere. Vote competence.

I dey pity any tribalist.

Hope your "vote competence" does not means voting obi?