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enshy:
Were you born again? Do you have inner peace? Are you sure you are not still searching for the truth? Are you comfortable with your state?

LOL, the problem is that most of you think we are searching for "God" or the "truth".. Where in fact we've examined and found out how ridiculous these beliefs are, like I for one just laugh when people talk about hell and all those absurd beliefs.

I was never at trouble in the first place, I always had inner peace... i was "born again" during my delusional years

enshy:
Hmmn, what an experience!
As per your second question: God wont ask me to sacrifice the life of my son cos Jesus is the Full Sacrifice! Abraham and Isaac story was symbolic of what God would eventually do in Christ! In addition, every demand/responsibility towards us by God comes with Grace to deliver!
My second question: Were you ever born again? Any xtian experiences? My first question, you ommited the peace part.

Hmm, I don't think you were actually christened like I was.. I went to church everyday, every single day without missing, for up to 3years, this was my final days as a devote Christian, I was catholic, but along the line went to a pentecostal church..

About Christian experiences, I really tried hard as a Christian to attribute normal events to God, I do pray at times and when I don't see any change(all the time), i say God's will be done.. my aunt went for an operation, and I was home praying and crying, she had a successful operation and I thought it was as a result of my prayer, but it later dawned on me that doctors have been helping millions of people without prayers!!

One thing I knew was that I never saw any miracle happen to people whom I know to be physically disabled, the only miracles I hear of are always on TV and they happen to those I don't know...

My friend's dad is blind, he was taken to Tb Joshua, and can you imagine, "God's time is the best", was what he was told.. Not until now, I realized miracles were fake as the tranny allegations on Michelle Obama!

enshy:
Thanks my friend.
I answered one; you will equally need to answer one before the second from me.
How did you get to this state of not believing in God, are you convinced ure ok with an evidence of inner peace? Be truthful pls!

I actually got into knowing the Bible more, I decided to judge the Bible using intelligence.. Found out how absurd my beliefs were over all these years of blind faith.. I started faulting bible stories, like the creation story, Noah's ark, God killing himself to himself to save you From what he himself will do to you, God claiming to be omniscient and claiming we all have free will(omniscience and freewill are clearly opposite), how an omniscient God didn't know Adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit.. how a loving God will send you to eternal torment for not loving him back...

It was then I realized how ridiculous these stories were, I in fact realized I haven't experienced any God..

So like a child who discovered Santa Claus was fake, I discovered God was fake and all made up to control people!

enshy:
They would equally love to die than deny their Lord Jesus!
I dont own my children, Im only a caretaker!
I have always prayed whatever Faith, anointing, power and grace that I lack shall be deposited in them without measure.
Xtians are not jokers! We are till death believers! Jesus or nothing else! Amen!!

Right, just got the first part of the answer am looking for

So would you equally act like Abraham if God told you to kill your only child, or would you disobey God?

enshy:
Thanks for your questions.
I know my destiny is eternity with God in Heaven..Ive given my life to Christ in full surrender and Im living fulfilling all the purposes of His Will. Im so sure beyond doubt that Heaven is my home.
Do you know what Ive been through serving this Jesus? Im ready to die, my children are more radical..The Holy Spirit possesses them from the womb! Didnt you read Isaac's acct when the Father wanted to make him a sacrifice..When the father bound him and placed him on the alter, he didnt resist!
My Bro, My Family and I have resolved to serve God till eternity regardless of insults, oppositions, hunger, famine, challenges! Dont stress!
We know what we live and die for!

Hmm.. So you are saying you'll let your kids die??

enshy:
Atheism is unfounded and hopeless!
You twist my words to console your soul in a folly that there is no God.
I take my medication minimum 3 times daily..Its the Bible, the word of God!
What do you take? You live for nothing! Where is the legacy for humanity? No hope in this life and in that to come!!
Atheism is a shameful belief out of deep folly! You are left in the cold on your own without inner peace! You need God!

LOL .
First off, atheism is not a belief!

Secondly, who do you think lives life the most? One who looks forward to his death and is unsure of where his God will send him to, or one who lives for now and enjoys every minute of his life without a belief of getting another one??

I have a question for you, I know you won't answer, but just try and examine how psychotic you are..

If your kids are caught and placed on gun point, and the only way you can save them is by sincerely denouncing your God, and saying "Bleep Jesus". .. just leave your faith behind forever.
Would you denounce your Jesus or allow your kids to die, knowing fully well that there is no other way.. Go on, am waiting for your answer

enshy:
What is yours with others?
Why not take time to settle your destiny while others settle theirs? There is God, Heaven and Hell! I pray Grace wont give up on you!
You call it delusion? I wont recover from it, Ill die in it.
God let me die the death of the righteous, let my last days be like his!
If serving Christ means death, let it come now!!!

This is exactly how terrorists think... They believe killing and dying for their beliefs is the right thing to do..

I know you would obviously turn to a suicide bomber if your "god" tells you to.. Don't you see you need medication??

CROWNWEALTH019:
“The worst moment for an atheist is when he is really thankful and has no one to thank.”


― G.K. Chesterton

Saying "what is the purpose of life without God" is same as saying "whose slave would I be, if there are no masters"

felixomor:
Read what I wrote.
Its straight forward.

Just for educational purposes, may i know how your God created humans and the complicated DNA?

felixomor:
I laugh at you
Speech an dust on its own cant give rise to anything.

You trying to derogatorily reduce God's power to "speech and dust"
Doesnt work.
It may work to help you silence your conscience for 5 minutes.

But after a while, u find yourself running back to religious section for truth because you know you have lied to yourself.

Its a cycle, you can never break free from, till you tell yourself the truth or annihilate your conscience totally.

Keep wandering!

Holy sh-it!! Are you trying to find another meaning to the Genesis account of creation??

Junia:
I dom't have time to read it when i already know the truth.

lol, right.. Ignorance is actually what keeps you going as a religious person.. And you are afraid to discover the truth

Junia:
Similar descendants ??
Well .. i won't argue
Believe what you want

LOL, go read up about evolution. Or read on "homo erectus", "Java man", "Neanderthals".. .

We don't believe in these things!! We've seen their fossils!

felixomor:
Please if u cant explain how the big bang gave rise to DNA, broke the laws of abiogenesis and the laws of thermodynamics,
It remains a belief, nothing more.
Besides, thousands of intelligent scientists have alrwady disproved big bang.
These are not even religious people.


Your "more suitable" doesnt even cut it.
You are only wasting time on the belief of big bang to commit your sins.

There is nothing logical in big bang.
The name "big bang" was even a mockery derivative.

Stop deceiving yourself.

LOL..
I don't believe in the big bang! No scientist "believes" in the big bang!

I for one don't know how the whole universe came about and it's not as if I care to know!

Do you know your body is mostly stardust?? This in fact supports the big bang theory..

My problem with you guys, is that, you chose to believe that the "DNA" is so complicated that it couldn't have formed by chance, but you(as a theist) believe that it was formed by "speech and dust".. And that this more complicated manufacturer doesn't necessarily need a creator...

Your stupidity stinks!

Junia:
Evolution ??
Tell me about evolution.
You cannot prove anything because you also read from a book or the internet.

That's why I said if you don’t know things, it'll be better to keep your mouth shut..

Evolution although is not 100% fact, but it wasn't established by mere assumptions either..

There are a lot of evidence that supports evolution, like fossils of extinct human-ape like creatures (like the bonobos, Neanderthals).. And in our present environment, we can find our relationship to apes by our DNA similarities, which suggests that we came from similar descendants and we had to change to adapt to our environment over the course of years..

Evolution is not an ape turning into a human being!!

felixomor:
Keep quiet, if u cant read.
You people blast religious people because of belief and faith.
Now you want to make explanation and use faith and belief.
You are the hypocrite!

We don't make explanations using faith and beliefs mind you, the big bang is not a proven fact, but rather a theory established based on observable evidences... The big bang is a more suitable explanation to how we came than a magic being speaking life into things using words!

You can as well point me to any thing we've said and agreed on based on "beliefs"

Junia:
It actually makes you believe that monkey's turned into humans yet they still exist. Smh

LOL, I just dislike idiots!

It's better to be silent and be thought a fool, than speak and remove all doubts..

You don't know evolution, and you think you can speak about it.. evolution never said monkeys turned to humans, stupid!!

felixomor:
You must be joking.
Big bang theory that has been disproved by thousands of scientists....

Please explain how big bang gave rise to human DNA?
And demonstrate it.

And do it without using faith or belief.
I am waiting.

Such hypocrisy!

zionmade:
Without religion man's heart its absolutely wicked.
It was religion dat gave birth to almost all the constitutions in the world. Those constitutions are built on d morality dat religion teaches.
Men are extremely wicked, its only religion dat tends to restrain d exhibition of this wickedness.
Talking about peace, can u name on Christianity, budhism or hinduism dominated countries where there is less peace dan ur so called secular countries.

You wont die if u rephrase d statement. The world could have been better without islam.

Islam is our current problem now, but if not because Christianity was forced to adapt to civilization, the world would have been worse with these two brothers in crime

enshy:
@benzics, obviously you dont know what Xtianity is.
Take this instance: Once upon a time, Benzics, a King had a subject who he took as a jolly good friend and loyalist who later sought to dethrone him.
Naturally Benzics banished him from the Kingdom. Now the servant turned enemy naturally as vengeance sought to deplete the Kings domain by deceiving the subjects, friends and relatives of the King.
You as an earthly King, you see that desperate enemy around you daughter, what would you do?
I guess you will leave her to decide...You wont let her know Mr Wicked is an enemy she must flee from? If she wont listen, Mr Benzics, if she were your only child, will you handover your investments to her, knowing she has been joined with an enemy...
God is not Man, he wont condescend to make anyone accept Him...He is who He is...
Yes God has an enemy (the devil) who has been defeated and we Xtians trample on him...Our King has warned us not to join issues with him/his subjects..We only rebuke them cos we are in control in this Kingdom...We dont warn him/his subjects cos we dont cast our pearls before swine, we warn the innocent, uninformed, our loved ones, the fearful, the willing, the prepared...
The Xtain Message is simply not for All!!!! I dont join issues with those who believe not and are enemies of Christ.

You know all the sh-ts you posted above is rendered null and void, since you claim your God is omniscient and omnipotent..

Which means he already knew what lucifer would do, but he still created him/her..

Basically, God created evil, and he has predetermined your life even before you were born, which means you are already destined for hell by your God.. Why do you still call lucifer the bad guy, when he is in fact innocent??

The murders of the Bible was it committed mostly by yahweh or lucifer?

Your God is your problem

enshy:
Is it threat to say "Mr A, that wide road is deadly and you may lose your life and properties, please take that other narrow road, though rough but you shall get to your destination umharmed and safely?"

Does the above mean instilling fear and blackmail?
Shouldnt a wise man heed? Isnt it a fool that would say let me get there first and see?

NO, the above doesn't instill fear and is no threat, but that isn't what Christianity is all about, it is more like.

"Mr A, don't follow that wide road, because the road belongs to the enemy of my loving father, and my father hates competition, you better follow my father's narrow road, because if he sees you following his enemy's road, he will set you on fire, so don't anger my loving wonderful beautiful forgiving father.. Shalom"

^^This is more of a threat, and that's exactly what Christianity entails

Yes, people often ask this question, but would the world really be better without religion?

As an atheist, I discovered many super powers, lol, yeah... I never believed I could be this loving.

I once hated gays, and they just disgust me, but once I left religion and embraced humanity, I found love in this people, the hate I once had for homos disappeared.

And it's no longer a hidden fact that the most hateful sect of people are actually Christians, while the most violent are Muslims.. If you want to know how hateful a Christian is, converse with him..

I don't know, but I find Muslims more enlightened, but just that they lack basic sense of humor, and get annoyed over useless things, but a moderate or liberal Muslim is just intelligent.. Same with the moderate Christians.

But it's very difficult to find religious moderates around us, take nairaland as a case study, when you go through posts by Christians, you find out how hateful these people can be..

The other day, a Christian told me he would kill me with a plank if he met me, because I supported gay rights.. WTF??

Another one said she would rather watch all her kids being killed than denounce Jesus. When you read things like these, you'll know humanity is f-cked.

The world would be actually better than it is now without religion, but will not be totally free of crimes and atrocities.


Without all these hateful sons of an imaginary hateful bastard, and violent followers of a pedophilic warlord, don't you think the world would be better?

Atheism does not guarantee a hate free or peaceful world, but humanism does..

I long for the day when people would realize that this world is all we have, and act humanly to every inhabitants of the earth, where Christianity and Islam is seen as "ancient myths", I know that day is coming..

Remember, people once worshipped Thor and Odin, as real gods, but today these gods are regarded as myths, I know the day Allah and Yahweh will be regarded as myths, is coming..

The world really need to be free of religious idiocy.

Cc: jonbellion, akintom, hahn, hopefullandlord, 4kings, randomperson, felixomor, kingebukasblog.

Would the world really be better without religion? What's your say..

AnonyNymous:
I'm just curious. From my favorite Shakespeare quote:



'For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?'


I've always wondered what people are dreaming about when they're about to die. That is, for people who 'die in their sleep'. What do you think?

What did you dream of before you were born? (note: you were dead years before you were born)

You simply can't, cause they are all men of themselves, stealing your money with your consent and awareness.. . It's time you all realize you are the gods you seek!

dehazeevents:
U haven't met anyone whose been healed?? I have ... Me!
Correction not healed by a man of God ... Healed through a Man of God . Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Light and by his stripes we are Healed. You Dont necessarily need a Man of God help receive your healing . If your Mum is a true Believer, filled with the HolyGhost and has built on her Faith I don't see y she cant speak healing to her body herself. That you are alive to read this message isn't by your own doing but a big Miracle so please Calm down ! Trust me Heaven , Hell realer than u can imagine !!

I remember once when I was little, and my dog died I was told it went to a beautiful farm where it will be hunting rabbits happily for ever, that was supposed to make me feel better about losing my dog...

Heaven and hell is the adult version of that story...

So you need to believe to be healed? But Saul in the Bible was a staunch disbeliever?

Pidgin2:
The one who has no hope, the one who wants to believe that life ends on earth but deep down in his heart he knows that he is only lying to himself but he keeps living in denial because he wants to live without morals and enjoy the destructive false pleasures of lust

LOL
Who told you that deep down in our hearts we believe in God? You can as well say deep down in our hearts we believe in Santa Claus, that makes much sense..

Atheists have better morals than you hateful children of a hateful father, you know that right? Once I discovered there was no god(Jeho. Alla.), I found out I could love humanity better, I once hated homosexuals, but now all I have for them is love.

I found out I can love anybody regardless of what they do, atheism is beautiful Christians on the other hand, we all know how hateful you all are, so no need to even say much

Pidgin2:
For one thing the fact that atheists don't seem to have peace of mind should convince anyone that there is an awesome God and his Kingdom is about peace and joy which atheists lack.

LOL, whom do you think worries most? One who looks forward to his death and is unsure of where his God will send him to, or one who lives for now and enjoys every minute of his life without a belief of getting another??

UyiIredia:
* A moral person does not kill innocent kids as done in the flood and many wars sanctioned by God in the OT.

* A moral person does condemn people innocent of a crime such as the unborn children of Adam and Eve.

* A moral person does not kill a helpful person. In 2 Sam 6:7 God killed a man ho tried to stop the ark from falling.

* A moral person doesn't kill for petty reasons eg lying as in Ananias or Sapphira or worshipping an idol.

* A moral person does need to kill someone to forgive. Even humans don't ask for blood sacrifice go forgive someone for something.

* An sadistic, immoral person is the sort that would be okay creating eternal torture as a form of punishment even for relatively mundane acts such as fornication.

* An immoral person punishes someone for an action he made the person do. For example, God created homosexuals that way, they didn't choose to be so. Yet God punishes them for it.

Let's hope this makes someone apply critical thinking to their beliefs. Hypocrites like King.EbukasBlog can keep justifying God's immoral acts by claiming that one shouldn't hold God to. the moral standards he himself made.

Wow, brilliant!

And seriously, even the story of Ananias and his wife really provoked me, striking people dead for their own properties? It just pains me that Christians really try hard to justify these acts.

A Christian telling you "can't a father punish his child", just to justify hell, is really appalling, theists are just nothing but slaves!

wiegraf:
There are things the carnal mind cannot comprehend

Go watch the video again, at 00:42,pay attention to the shadow... watch how the highlighted shadow goes it's own way immediately he stepped down..
And if you also look closely, the cameraman waited a little(enough time for the ghost to hide) before turning to the right side..


You can only fool the gullible..

This should be in the front page na, let's laugh at gullibility a little.. Cc: seun

ScienceWatch:
A respectful reminder is needed here. As an Atheist you should never do that BENZICS. It is a cardinal sin for an atheist to even assume that God is real.

To move forward for now, both of us dont need any assumptions. If that is OK with you ?

I will kindly use a spiritual law called patience and wait for you to rephrase your question.

LOL
Unlike theists, we atheists live by no rules or doctrines.. we simply do what we want to do!

ScienceWatch:
So, do you really want the answer to your awesome question or are you testing me ?

Of course I'll love answers

ScienceWatch:
You ask interesting questions. But I cant help wondering why you have not found any satisfying answers ?

Is it because you have something in common with millions of mentally slothful people ?

Is it because you have found answers, but reject it because it dont suit the socially destructive Atheist mission.

I can give you mind blowing, effective answers to all your questions above, but I doubt you want to hear it, considering your "contradictory" stance. one minute you boldly claim that the spiritual world is not real, " Miracles are not real" then you use miracles/excorsm/Demons in your counter argument. But no problem, these are difficult times.

I am absolutely certain that you friends will inspire solutions here

Grrr!!
I never said miracles were true , I don't believe in God, but for the sake of argument I assume he is real... !

ScienceWatch:
So you agree that Atheist will never "see" miracle healings, because of the principle of the Law of Attraction - Like attracts like.

The Christians you refer to, are only Christian by name. I encourage you to work hard on the deeper meanings contained in this scientific law before you continue on you mission to destroy the faiths of other.

Mr no true Scots... Christians by name my ass, so you are saying, if you hate God, miracle can't happen to you? What about all the exorcisms we see on TV? Scoan's Emmanuel TV in particular, so all those "demons" love God?