₦airaland Forum

omonnakoda:
Your father and mother are both possessed and demonic minds

God bless you!!

ThinkSmarter:
I don't doubt that miracles don't happen but what do you hv to say about the worshippers that lost their lives at Uyo church collapse, are they bench warmers?, don't they worship God in truth and in spirit? I am a Christian like u but it is not everything that I explain with religion. I am a rational thinker.

Dont bring the Uyo church matter here, folks lost their life and people are grieving so dont use it to score nonsense point.

If I am to give my opinion on that unfortunate incident in that church that should never have happened in the first place. I know what I would say, but since that church is supposed to be part of the body of christ, we can only pray for God to comfort them and help them recover.

omonnakoda:
Actually Christian fanaticism has taken many lives throughout the ages and continues to do so.Bishop Oyedepo slapping people and calling them witches is just the tip of the iceberg

Christian fanatism taking lives? Which lives, where, when.
Dont be ridiculous, stop making a caricature of how you think.

You've obviously got a possesed and demonic mind that desperately needs Salvation, engaging you further is a waste of time.

Yemike:
hmm..... i'm not a believer but.....winners?....smh

We are not even begging you to be a believer. Its not by force to be saved afterall, even if the price for your salvation has already been paid-Rev 22:11

But know that everybody would repent one day, but for some it would be too late-Pst Benny Hynn

Yemike:
strange act in the winners family?
You're making me feel as if this winners is another religion entirely.

Winners Chapel Family is part of the body of Christ just like any true and living church of God out there.Its not my responsibility on how you interpret my submissions and convictions. You can think and believe anything you want afterall.

shotster50:
Christian Fanaticism? Lol surely you don't mean the 'My Pastor is more powerful than you Pastor kind of fanaticsm?

You can't misconceive and assume that and tie it to my statement.I never said that.

Just so you know that even among Pastors, the level of the anointing of the Holy Ghost differs from one man of God to Another. Some operate in a higher dimension than others.Its not my position to evaluate or judge.

So don't confuse my statement with your evil mind. Even Jesus said he gave some 5 talent, some 2 talent, some 1 talent.

Whether you are angry or concerned that some pastors seem to weild more influence and power than others.Its not my calling to be looking at that.You can scrutinise for all I care.It doesn't add value to your life.

Greenbullet:
this,this text is the definition of religious fanactism and lack of a functioning thinking faculty.

Religious fanatics?.
You are funny indeed.At least Christians fanaticsm doesn't have negative impact such bombings, school girls kidnapping, killings, on folks unlike the other religion that descended from Ishmael.

Oh a functioning thinking faculty? You that have one what has become of your life. Nonsense.

If you have a problem with this testimony, then you need serious deliverance before you drown in hate.

LoveJesus87:
You have a chronic mental health issue. Consider it yourself. So he shouldn't celebrate the faithfulness of God over his life because others own were burnt? Or are you trying to deny the fact that it wasn't a miracle? Don't even get your point. Do you get it yourself? Whether others were Muslims or belong other churches, the glaring fact is that ITA AN ABSOLUTE MIRACLE AND ITS WORTH CELEBRATING!

I think many of them here trivialising the mysterious act of preservation by the Lord God have such issues, and they foolishly advertise it here instead of hiding in shame are here attacking the testimony and they that are celebrating it.
What a state of spiritual and mental depravation.I don't understand what some folks reasoning is made up of.

goingape1:
are you living in old testament or new testament?

where in new testament did it write the god of this the god of that bla bla?

We in Winners chapel family embrace the full Bible so not just only new testament .So good luck with your ignorance.

nepapole:
GOD of oyedepo....oga ooo.. May u be delivered once again.

I am delivered already, you need deliverance badly, so receive eneough sense to appreciate the strange doings of the Lord.

Yemike:
God of oyedepo?
How many God dey self?

There is one God with many names.

The God who called Bishop Oyedepo to start preaching in 1981 perharps when you weren't even born is who we in the Winners chapel family refer to as The God of our Father, even the God of Bishop David Oyedepo.It is the same God of Heaven who made the world and it's fullness thereof in 6days.

That same God can do, overdo and undo. Blessed be God of my father, even the God of Oyedepo.
He owe nobody any explanation of his strange acts in the Winners family.

nepapole:
May GOD deliver all of u..

I am delivered rather its you and your generation that need deliverance.Dont quote me if you haven't received sense.

God of Oyedepo delivered that man's car and he owe no ignorant fellow any explanation

goingape1:
in the bible did it write the god of Bishop Oyedepio

religious people are the problem we are facing

Who is a religious person?
, you are spiritually ignorant person, off course I know you cannot know this. You can engage the God of your Spiritual father in confronting the challenges of life.
Its a scriptural concept as demonstrated when Elisha was faced with crossing over the river Jordan.Then he said where is the Lord of God of Elijah and bam, it happened.

So don't always be in a hurry to advertise your spiritual confusion out here.You need light from the Bible to help not to criticize the doings of the Lord.

Like the God of Oyedepo is always ready to intervene and help all true sons and followers of his servant Bishop Oyedepo.

nepapole:
They have come again..so others burn because say na redeem, deeperlife, mfm, mosque Dem dey go.. Nigerians sef..

Is not the man's fault that God of Oyedepo made his car not burn because he sealed every winner with the mark and covenant of exemption saying our case is different.

In this end time there would be a difference even among Christians(quoting Papa) talkless of unbelievers. So don't compare his testimony with the experience of anybody.

The testimony you mock can NEVER happen to you.Be careful.

Blessed be God of Bishop Oyedepo who made the man's case to be different.

The same way my case is also different.

Thank God for this strange and mysterious act of exemption. A miracle indeed that cannot be denied by the naysayers.

Folks the ark of exemption is about to take off, better run in to be safe from the flood of horrors and famine of 2017.Say yes to Jesus today, and enter the ark.

Proverbs 24:24-25
He that saith unto the wicked(Buhari), Thou art righteous(assumed to be doing greatly when he is suffering Nigerians); him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him(That person deserves to be cursed and his international destiny aborted)
But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.

Bingohari must be condemned for his daftness.His ill conceived decisions has retrogressed the once booming economy.

We rocked this stuff in the 90s.It came in different shapes. Wonderful memories.

Off course well said, he should be warned. Pastors and Men of God are not the problem so take your frustration somewhere else.

Nobody is forced to give,Nobody is forced to go to church, Nobody is forced to serve God, Nobody is forced to do anything in the kingdom of God, so all the hypocrites, saducces, pharisees out there should take their misguided criticism and frustration to where it belong.

Airforce1:
This evening i woke up from sleep and the first thing the cross my mind was alcohol and sex.
i hate sex but I'm so fucking addicted to substances that make me High.

ive fought so many times to stay off this substances but not been easy and my folks don't know bout my addiction on hard substances.

mid 2017 I'm gonn be 28 and if i continue this way i may not make it alive on my 28th birthday.

I don't know what to do.

You need the help of the Holy Spirit to help you overcome the addiction, but that not possible if you haven't given your life to Jesus Christ so he can truly be your Lord and Saviour.
Then the deliverance process from the addiction can begin!!

I have benefitted also from the church in tangible material terms.

Let me see any person that want to talk nonsense about Bishop Oyedepo.May God Konk that person head.

aieromon:
So this Moyes cannot hold down this Chelsea team for me?

How can you stop a moving trailer without brake.That is chelsea.

Organs:
bezimo: YOU ARE JUST BRAINWAHSED....How come Nigeria is full of churches yet it is full of evil?? its because you and most pastors are fake. Everyone is thinking about himself and his pocket. You dont understand religion and faith and service to God and humanity. Go back and read the stories of all the prophets and compare that with the pastors of today. Also read what the WEST says about nigerians and their pastors and churches, there is an article about getting rich in the name of god and all this you will find in developing countries like nigeria where you have high poverty rate and hope in God via faith message sells a lot and the pastors are caching in on it. Receive brain my brother, they are stealing you blind.

You are the one that is confused and lack understanding, is it the also Corrupt, Godless, and gay minded West that I should care about their opinion or what.Their opinion is invalid just like every pharisee and saducee out there.

Society has always been concerned on the Prosperity of the church, its members and leaders, Even the rich American Pastors like the Copelands have been wrongly criticised by certain section of their government on their wealth, so its not a Nigerian thing

That I and many others give to God in church, how is that your business, abeg take your daft nonsense opinion to the garbage.
you are claiming to know better yet as empty and foolish like them who go into damnation.You are the one to receive sense because you have been brainwashed by the enemy to not embrace the truth of scriptures, but I am sure your case not beyond redeemable.

When the Wicked rule the people mourn-Prov 29:2

Sore vexation in the land because of a daft ruler called Bingohari.

I said same yersteday. A country where the heroes are ignored talkless of the ordinary citizen.

God has blessed Bishop Oyedepo in unbelievable terms.How he distributes his wealth is nobody's business. He owes no Pharisee any explanation.

As far as I know Bishop is into a number of charity works that range from construction of roads in Ota and environs, scholarships to indigent students to Landmark and Covenant universities, feeding a number of charity homes and many more.Yet this son of confusion called freeze is talking nonsense.He doesn't give in Winners Chapel and as such is entitled to zero opinion on how Bishop Manages Winners chapel or his wealth.

Freeze you day is coming, watch it!

Typical Pharisee and Judas disposition.

I remember that statement in the Bible where Judas criticised the woman who poured an expensive perfume to wipe Jesus feet, and Judas said, the perfume should have been sold and given to the poor, the Bible said he said so not because he cared for the poor, but because he was a thief.

If opening churches would make pastors rich and wealthy from tithe, why are not all pastors rich. Is it not the same God that called them. If to open church is about collecting tithe, Freeze go and open one and stop talking nonsense, typical attention seeking Sadducees.

fkdmods:
If Buhari is a dullard, it is because Nigerians are mostly dull. If Buhari is ignorant, it is because Nigeria is an ignorant society. Buhari is a reflection of the psychological and moral representation of Nigerians. The mere fact that you are asking for the return of GEJ proves my point. You guys don't learn from anything. You are like a rock; Nothing passes through it and nothing can come out of it. You as a people cannot retain knowledge. You forget too easily. Also remember, people vote for leaders who they think are like them. No one coerced them into placing their ballots for him. They saw a reflection of him in their daily lives. Now that you all are confronted with who truly represents your ideals, you are all shocked and flabbergasted. It is like looking in a mirror and not liking what you see. It will happen again. Nigeria has a history of it's people not learning from past mistakes. People who don't acknowledge history and their mistakes are doomed to repeat them. If you listen to fela's songs he released in the 70's, you'd think he released them just yesterday.

No way, Not Nigerians, but it's the Northeners and some Westerners who brought the daft Buhari into governance that his daftness represents. So don't generalise your submission.

Embarrassed to be associated with Nigeria.What a shame. A country were the heroes are neglected talk less of the ordinary citizens.

This would never have happened under GEJ, but it's happening under the daft one.

soldierdollar:
"Why does the Federal government want MMM banned? A scheme Nigerians are using to help themselves? The national assembly are just too wicked! They are busy "chopping" our national cake but will not allow this God-sent scheme to see the light of the day. God Pass them" ... and a thousand and one more quotations showing how desperate and ignorant Nigerians could be about ponzi schemes.
It is no surprise as to how passionate Nigerians could be about get-rich-quick schemes considering the fact that the current recession is really biting hard. In fact the level of passion exhibited by Nigerians about this scheme has forced many participants to write open letters to Federal authorities warning them to desist from any attempt to be a log in the wheel of their "progress' . Some have become irrevocably too sure about the sustainability of the pyramid schemes, especially, MMM. I am not here to question the sustainability or otherwise of MMM scheme neither am I trying to pacify you to leave the scheme; I am here to tell you that MMM has not and will never improve the generality of life in Nigeria with the following facts.

(1) MMM has no central account. This well known fact should be a source of worry about the owners' source of income and the sustainability of the scheme. MMM does not not have direct access to your money and thus, does not invest it in order to grow it. Why is MMM being selfless and 'patriotic' in ensuring the smooth running of the scheme? How the heck does it gain from the scheme? Below is the answer to the puzzle.

(2) It may shock you to know that just like you and millions of other participants, nothing prevents MMM from "providing help" and "getting help" from a scheme they created.As the first investor in its own scheme, imagine the millions and chains of referrals in their 'downlines' and thousands of guiders that constitute its team. I may be wrong in the figures , but the number will be quite humongous. Is the amount of money MMM makes enough to pay millions of their participants 30-40 % returns on their investments and 10% to the referrer? Hell No! Then how the heck are they able to keep to their promise of settling investors?

(3) Liken MMM to a large mansion where you have to pay the occupants some money before you are allowed entry into the house. Once you are allowed into the mansion, you have to wait for another stranger who has to pay you 30% + 100% of your money before he could be allowed to live with you. Most times one stranger may not be able to foot the bill. He is merged with one or more strangers to pay you. In other words, the sustainability and longevity of the scheme will rely on the number of new tenants and the amount the new tenants are bringing to the table ( as well as the willingness of old tenants to renew their rent). Will this huge Mansion one day collapse? Or more likely, will this huge mansion ,one day be deserted? Definitely! How? Read below.

(4) Who pays the old tenants? New tenants or old tenants who are willing to renew their rent pay the old tenants. Literally, if you provide help by paying a tenant, the same help will be reciprocated to you with 30 to 40% bonus for being a good kid.Will there be a situation where I will provide help and not receive? Yes.. in the event that new tenants stop coming. But what can really discourage new members from coming?

(a) When everybody have become tenants. In the very near and imminent future, this will be the case.

(b) When the mansion( scheme) has become old such that new tenants decide to look for other houses (schemes) with better offers ( MMM united, MMM japan MMM Illorin) leaving old members stranded in an a state of panic.

(c) when old tenants refuse to renew their rents and decide to rent a house( scheme) elsewhere

(d) when the money new tenants pay as rent is smaller than what the old members are waiting to be paid- Old members paid millions of Naira but new tenants are bringing peanuts because of the reason below.

(e) when there is fear and uncertainty. "Will they ever unfreeze mavrodi accounts after a month? is this an end time sign?" This will of course decrease "investors confidence" and will either make new tenants to stop coming, reduce how much that is being invested or make old tenants not to renew their rents.

(f) When old members, from their profit start building their own mansions in form of houses, cars , business- thus cutting the chances of reinvesting in the scheme which will invariably reduce the amount of money in circulation.
What will be the fate of old tenants waiting to be provided help? Your guess is as good as mine. Will this result to the crash of the scheme? Yes. How soon? I do not know. Why do I think MMM is not a helping scheme? Read below.

(5) As you have now known or previously knew, MMM will one day crash but the date, hour, minute, second is uncertain. What if it crashes? Will the totality of Nigerians be happy? A big No . Why? Let me make a simple illustration. Let's say at the point A,B,C,D paid to E,F,G,H , the system crashes. This will create equal amount of Joy and sorrow. In other words, we may even have more mourners than "merriers" in most cases where many people are merged to pay few persons

What have I achieved by writing this epistle?

a) I have established that MMM and similar schemes are not cast with steel. They will one day crash.

b) I have succeeded in establishing that MMM does not improve the generality of the population. Where you rob peter to pay Paul and create equal helpers and stranded 'beggars' does not imply help.

c)I have succeed in reducing your passion for ponzi schemes which is typical of productive nations. Let us be more creative, innovative and productive. MMM has really lead to brain drain in our agile youths.

Is it biblically, Quaranically, morally right to rob peter to pay Paul? Share your thoughts.


I invite Lalasticlala, mynd44 , Seun , Ishilov

- Soldierdollar-

Well articulate perspective, The Apostle warned them to stay away from MMM, that it has a dubious scheme, the foolish abused and insulted him, the wise if there were any, probably heeded the warning.Now the worst is just starting.

Was it not Last week Apostle Suleiman warned Nigerians against the scheme as if he saw what was to come, now see how MMM don mugurise Nigerians.They abused and insulted the prophet instead of heeding the warning.
Are Nigerians the most gullible folks in the world?

KaptainAfrika:
I am all for jokes, it lightens the mood. But tell me this, you are a doctor in a hospital filled with patients on the verge of dying and they need to administer the medicine that will save their lives, what will be of utmost concern to you? laughing or saving life's?
There is a time, for everything.

Let me tell you, having a consistent dose of laughter has been medically and scientifically shown to impact people health .So even in that situation laughter is still good. In church laughter is good, At work, in the bus everywhere.
There are some folks that carry long face all the time as if they are carrying the worlds problem.

My Father in the Lord, Dr David Oyedepo said "if you listen to any of his message CD or tape and people didn't laugh, then destroy the tape/CD because according to him, God didn't speak that day" Quote me anywhere, he said so.

Comedy in the church is good for the people of God. Have you heard of " Sam and Song" comedians. They are christian super funny comedians.

My opinion is that if the Comedian is a born again child of God, and submits to his pastor as his spiritual father or even another pastor, nothing is really wrong in giving the stage to entertain the people with jokes. But the question now comes to if the jokes are edifying or not or when the comedian is not born again and tells typical worldly jokes which becomes a question of why bringing such into the house of God.

Highly anoited men of God also tell stories/testimonies that look like jokes thus lightening up the congregation with serious laughter. Papa Oyedepo does that sometimes, Daddy GO does that a few times, Apostle Suleiman does that well.

My opinion is that if the Comedian is a born again child of God, and submits to his pastor as his spiritual father or even another pastor, nothing is really wrong in giving the stage to entertain the people with jokes. But the question now comes to if the jokes are edifying or not or when the comedian is not born again and tells typical worldly jokes which becomes a question of why bringing such into the house of God.

Highly anoited men of God also tell stories that look like jokes the lightening up the congregation.