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i think i posted news clip dated jan 24 and jan 26 and today is jan27. Stale news i don't think so.

Contrary to what you think; i'm all for peace.The greatest delusions that men have started wars based on the concept of a 'clean war' i.e a war that will hurt the enemy and leave us unaffected.The idea that it can be controlled, and switched on and off is myopic. Attacks on the enemy will only result with retaliation and more mayhem. Is that not what is happening now; heroic gangs forming to protect there people and hurt the enemy. Is it really about elections anymore?

Yes it is Mutegi

Lets wait for Super Tuesday!

you guys dont even think long term, instead of you people to allow this man build a team for the future you emotional-freaks are beginning to call for his head!
NIGERIAN FOOTBALL WILL NOT ADVANCE IF WE CONTINUE LIKE THIS

No disrespect here but what evidence do you have to show Raila won. Chest thumping will not solve anything. Raila has totally refused to use any legal means to clarify if the votes were legitimate. A simple court order would have opened the door for a re-tallying .Raila knows he lost and a re-election under the current constitution would most likely result in the same thing. Unless Raila wins; the results is rigged.

Mutegi stop dragging issues it is very obvious that Raila won that election

dem wan kill us o

These "Super Vultures" are coming home today

stellose:
MAKE ME TOO TAKE AMERICA TAKE REPLY YOU.

ha men, ,,,,ha men, see this guy men, he go just sidon , ask us, how much them go pay if him yankee back to nigeria men , whats say you all men, make una talk men. help me halla back men. abeg the year still ripe for all ya men.

you too funny my sister!

i wan die of lafta for hia

Priscila:
One thing that beats my imagination is this! Why should Kibaki be the president of Kenya when It is Raila who won election? Do we embrace democracy or its just a joke?Cant we africans find other means instead of copying the west and ululating about democracywhich will never exist in our continent?Its a spell of doom if Kibaki insists on ruling for a whole term.

Raila has no choice but people power and if he does not lead Kenyans to freedom he will be a failure as well. He is now Kenyas Messiah just like Moses led Israelites from brutal hands of the pharaoh.Kibaki is not better than Mugabe and can all dictators go to hell. UN and West countries should save kenya now if they really are up in arms for continent development.
What a mess?

I am not sure about that priscilla

will this ranting change anything?

Horus:
Why police kill a 13 year old boy?
The police is suposed to represent the Justice,and a 13 year old boy is Not a treat to national security.

Source: http://allafrica.com/stories/200801180852.html

It wasnt Odinga that ordered the killing of that 13 year old boy, or Mutegi was he the one?

Nigeria 2:0 Mali

Etin:
@Easimoni, Pumping, Windywendy et all

How do I participate in the MTN private placement? My Stock broker does not seem to know.

How many stockbrokers know anything these days?
they are all thinking of how to meet their re-capitalisation deadline

@Mutegi
both parties have both engaged in senseless killings, not just Odinga

ndubest:
@BIBIKING1

END ALWAYS JUSTIFES THE MEANS

so you justify the killing of innocent iraqis so as to give them DEMOCRACY

who will the democracy rule when they are all dead

TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT and you do not break the law to keep a law

I am sure you dont want to start a lenghty discussion as to the relevance of the Iraqi war on the world's economy? cos i can prove that it had a positive impact,,,,the lives lost were not from the hands of the Americans but the "TERRORISTS" we are trying to classify here
that aside, what do you think all these men who apply " controlled" and "realistically logical" force to their quest aim to get?
total annihilation? NO
when Wole Soyinka held a Radio station to ransom back in the days was he thinking of destroying human lives senselessly?
Was Kenule Saro-Wiwa hoping to write his name in blood like Osama when he ran his little group of freedom fighters?

the answer is NO!

But they had an aim, and to reach that point they needed to apply some degree of force. So to achieve that end, they used some queer "means".

At the end the END justified the MEANS,

SO SEUN the answer remains NO

now that is what i call request for freedom!!!
one good thing from all of this is that right from the mountains of Kabul to the valleys in Uganda, from the Wetlands of Yenagoa to the Deserts of Noakchatt, people are aware that the Kenyan elections were RIGGED, and KENYANS WANT FREEDOM!
Unlike some green-white-green country i know, that has solved its problems of electoral malfunction inside a bowl of corruption, ,,,,,,,,,

its like asking was Kenule Saro-Wiwa a Terrorist?
or was Wole Soyinka a Terrorist?

these are all based on principles and the clearly and generally accepted meaning of Terrorism!
the use of armed force is not in itself Terrorism!

so Mr. Seun the Answer is NO

The end ALWAYS justifies the means!

this is Sylvester and the colour has been blue for like 9 years now

Mutegi:
What truth, it looks like you are in your small little cocoon. What you don't realize is Raila supporters don't know how to protest. To them democracy is burning, maiming,looting, raping, killing and destroying. YOu forget 57% of the people who voted are happy with the elections. Should they be held hostage because Raila is grieved. He called 3 days of violence and there were more reporters than the people. People are already tired with the orgy of violence. What is the government supposed to do with people infringing on other people rights. Is the death of one violent protestor any more significant than the deaths of 400 Kenyans "cleansed" in the Rift Valley? Are we not to draw any inspiration from the deaths of these hundreds of innocents? On the contrary, the ODM, with their mastery of propaganda, appear to have succeeded in turning the media cameras, local and international attention away from the plight of the many faceless and nameless victims in the Rift Valley (mostly Kikuyu and Kisii) that went through the most horrifying deaths at the hands of ODM supporters. They would want the world to believe that the killings and evictions in the Rift Valley were a spontaneous reaction to the announcement of Kibaki's re-election. All evidence, however, urges us to a conclusion that the murderous mobs acted on the instruction (or incitement) of their leaders in a well-choreographed campaign that bears all the evidence of discipline and organisation.

Stop it men stop; As much as you want to vilify Kibaki don't make a mockery of the deaths that happened in the hands of Raila supporters.You ignore all the facts but believe anything else.

I think the point is being missed here, i am not in support of the Violence. I think both sides are employing really dirty tactics in handling the situation. But that is as surface as it cant get. The main point that should be drawn from this is the fact that a people have a limit to which they can accept cirvumvention.
The Kenyans have been able to draw a line to which they can be manipulated politically, that line is not elastic and that has been pointed out clearly.
Like i have said before, FREEDOM ALWAYS HAS A PRICE!

Well the truth is beginning to show now, with Kibaki ordering the slaughter of protesting Kenyans!
Who should be stopping the violance now? Kibaki or Odinga?

I think because of the little pressure that has been put on Kibaki's illegitimate govt by African leaders he is beginning to believe that he can take the opposition out forcefully. And that is exactly what he is doing. He has desisted from embracing dialogue.

Shame on Kenya, shame on Africa!

Those articles are certainly the biased opinions of certain individuals and do not necessarily stand as "cogent and verifiable" facts

'Seven dead' in Kenyan protests

The town of Kisumu saw at least four people killed on Wednesday


Shots leave man dead
Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga says police in Nairobi have shot dead seven people on the second day of fresh protests against disputed polls.
BBC correspondents reported Kenyan riot police firing into the air to disperse protesters in several cities.

They said at least two people had been shot in Nairobi's Kibera slum and there were clashes in Kisumu in the west as police tried to clear barricades.

The European Parliament has asked the EU to cut cash to Kenya's government.

On the first day of the protests on Wednesday, at least four people were killed.

Sanctions is one way of putting pressure on Mr Kibaki to know that it is not going to be business as usual with the rest of the world

Raila Odinga


Emotions run high in Kisumu
Protests in pictures

The police have banned all public demonstrations.

Kenyan authorities say more than 600 people have died in violence since President Mwai Kibaki was declared the victor in elections held in December.

But Mr Odinga told reporters on Thursday that more than 1,000 people had died.

He has demanded a recount of the vote but also said he would stop disputing the result if it showed Mr Kibaki won.

Mr Odinga also told the BBC's Hardtalk programme that he would be prepared to take part in a "transitional coalition government" charged with organising new elections within six months.

The Commonwealth is the latest body to criticise the results.

The final report of its observer team said the polls "did not meet international standards".

'Defying instructions'

A BBC correspondent says two people are known to have been shot in Nairobi's Kibera slum while Mr Odinga and residents of the city's Mathare slum said seven people had been shot dead there.

beautiful homeland going through what its neighbours have gone through


The government has not yet commented on casualty figures but spokesman Alfred Mutua repeated the president's call for the opposition to take its protest to the courts.

However, opposition spokesman Salim Lone told Associated Press news agency: "Our rallies will continue until the government sits down with us and seeks a solution, calling off rallies would be admitting defeat."

On Thursday youths burned tyres and barricades, and police fired into the air in an attempt to disperse the groups.

In the western opposition stronghold of Kisumu, where four people were killed on Wednesday, residents of the Kondele slum set up barricades on a main road, which officers have been trying to clear.

TV footage of Wednesday's rally there showed a protester lying on the ground being kicked by a policeman. The man was found dead shortly afterwards with bullet wounds.

Kisumu's police chief Grace Kahindi told the BBC that local officers had ignored orders only to use tear gas and batons in putting down Wednesday's protests, and that they would now be more closely supervised.

The BBC's Karen Allen in Kisumu says there are unconfirmed reports that two more people were killed on Thursday morning.

UN aid appeal

The European Parliament on Thursday unanimously backed a resolution calling for the EU to suspend aid to the Kenyan government.

The EU is due to give some 400m euros (£298m) to Kenya over the next five years.


The military is being used to clear road blocks like this one in Eldoret

MEPs have no direct say over the aid budget, but the vote sends a strong signal to EU governments about the disquiet provoked by the elections and their aftermath, says the BBC's Alix Kroeger in Strasbourg.

MEP Glenys Kinnock told the BBC News website that EU money should be diverted away from the government and used in aid projects instead.

Mr Odinga said the international community should impose sanctions.

"Sanctions is one way of putting pressure on Mr Kibaki to know that it is not going to be business as usual with the rest of the world, unless and until he agrees to a peaceful resolution to this artificially instigated crisis," he said.

Meanwhile, the UN has launched a $34m (£17.3m) humanitarian appeal for Kenya, to help those affected by the violence following the disputed election.

A quarter of a million people have left their homes and 6,000 have fled to neighbouring Uganda.

Kenya is East Africa's most developed economy and its bread basket has traditionally been the Rift Valley, where maize is grown but which also suffers ethnic violence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7193230.stm

@Mutegi
now what are we talking about?
Is this ethnic cleansing or a political revolution?

Abeg where i fit buy the PArt TWO of this MATTER?


This man OBJ has just started his travails,
,,,,,,,,,,,This block buster fit enter part 8 o!

Men!!!! I no mind siddon finish this film o!!!! Abeg make nations cup wait for dere,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,This is a must-watch BLOCKbuster,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :lol:

@labelle
your link has nothing to do with the Kanyan Elections?

The problems of the IJAW nation should not be seperated from that of the whole Niger-Delta. I am fed up with some sick group of individuals holding this country to ransom because of that black liquid in their zone (which by the way belongs to Nigeria)

Where were they when Jos was providing Tin Kano was providing groundnut Ibadan Cocoa? they were feasting on the resources produced by these regions.

Now they are agitating like rabid beasts of a cure unknown because of Oil?

fie on 'em all

tufe:
babasin,
Obasanjo didnt wipe out ODI.
at the time of it happening, that is 1999, something had to be done about that place. it was an abode for the then growing militants. really i believe that Obj took a bold step at that time, so please don't liken the two situations.

Inasmuch as the two cases do not relate with each other i would like to clearly and categirocally state that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

OBASANJO WIPED PUT ODI
i suggest yo go and get your facts right, that was a gross violation of the fundamental human rights of those people

Kibaki has reportedly ordered soldiers to use violence on demonstators!

hey dude!
don't know what you coming out with all the priggish stuff for, but i do not care
you politicians are all the same, pastor or imam, once you are a politician you a part of that bif ^%$%ing body of corrupt individuals

thats true

@Mutegi
the objectivity of your argument is seriously in doubt.
Where do you stand? Kibaki, Raila or Justice?

[b]'Dozens dead' in Nigerian blast

Dozens of people are feared dead after a fuel tanker exploded on a busy road near the southern Nigerian oil city of Port Harcourt, police say.
Reports say the incident happened when the speeding tanker burst a tyre as it turned a corner, tipped over and spilt oil onto nearby cars and shops.

Witnesses reported seeing burnt-out cars with charred bodies inside.

Correspondents say road accidents are common, with roads suffering neglect and many vehicles poorly maintained.

The incident did not appear to be linked to militants, who are currently involved in a campaign of bombings and kidnappings in the troubled region.

The tanker was carrying stolen fuel and was being chased by police when it crashed, AFP news agency reported.

At least 13 vehicles and several shops were badly damaged by the blast after being engulfed by the spilt petrol.

"I heard a loud bang and I came out of my shop. I saw fire running down towards my shop, but I escaped," 61-year-old shop owner Matthew Eliagwu told the Associated Press news agency.

"It was impossible to help anyone, because I had to run for my life."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7184638.stm[/b]


this is amazing! and pathetic

been speaking with some financial analysts and they think its a far shot, i have this conviction that it should be now anyway.
Also have some software developers working on the initial framework