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noetic2:
This are baseless assertions. how can u state that a promise is unverifiable when u are not the beneficiary and u dont subscribe to the promiser? This is very unintelligent.
If fear is ur interpretation of christianity, then fine.

This is shameless, disgraceful, unintelligent and ridiculous.
I believe I already addressed all of this with huxley. Go to ur dictionary and define LIGHT. Rather let me do it for u.

Here is a dictionary definition of light. cuddled from: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/light
18. spiritual illumination or awareness; enlightenment.

This definition is an acknowledgement of a spiritual light that is not accessible by human organs. This is the light God created in the very beginning.
The stars, moon and sun are later creations. Just like the bible did not mention the creation of the other planets and the heavens, it is also silent on the continuous re-creation of stars. . . . .this does not rule out the work of GOD.

I knew u were going to come up with something stupid, that was why I asked u to open a new thread.

This is the most deluded stuff I have heard all through the weekend. Is the highlighted part in your bible or is it part of the word play and gimmick you guys play all the time? Where in the bible does it say that god created a spiritual light in the beginning?

Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

What spiritual light that can not be accessed by human organs are you talkıng about? Is it day or night? thats what the bible talks about unless if you mean the day and night the bible talks about are spiritual. You are a very ridiculous and pathetic apologist. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Image123:
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It's been said to you before that it takes more than the brain's 'wisdom' to understand the things of God. God is a Spirit. You'll understand him better if you seek Him in spirit and in truth.

In other words god "works in mysterious ways" "we can't understand god" except when it's convenient.

Then we know EXACTLY what god meant, and we'll also go ahead and quote it, and we'll use it as evidence to convince people that god exists!

except when it's inconvenient.

Then "works in mysterious ways" "we can't understand god". The whole merry go round is absurd.

I just don't understand why satan is invisible . Christians say that god is invisible because he wants people to believe in him out of their own freewill. But what about satan? Is he invisible because people have to believe in him out of their own free will too?

FRA:
I sense frustration, anger, confusion, loneliness, anxiety, the feeling of being lost, not wanted.

I am an atheist and I am MOST happy now that I am one, I have never been happier in my life, now that I know that the whole religious tale is a farce. I know the superficial comfort and hope religion gives but it is nothing compared to the new found happiness I now have as an atheist. By the way where is your evidence to show that atheist are frustrated, confused, anxious and feeling lost?  .

I understand that is what happens when you are a lost sheep.  Unfortunately there is no reprieve or remedy until you accept that you need help from God.

How does your invisible boogey man help people? If he exist and helps people there will be evidence and it will be seen. NO?

The God i know gives peace of mind.

How? there is NO evidence to show that Christians have more peace of mind than non christians.

You can have all the best responses, wise cracks and cover your frustration with attitude but in the depth of your heart you know something is missing.

What might be missing?  , The idea that a person is frustrated because he does not believe in the invention of ancient jews and romans is absurd. How do you know that we are frustrated and what are we frustrated about? 

There will always be a void in your life. You know what, it doesnt really matter what you think or say about God, he has been the same, is the same today and will be the same for eternity.

Only that you do not even know which god you are really talking about, the bible god has never been the same read the OT and NT and see how he has changed completely and made a complete U turn. The bible god has never been the same because the people that keep creating him in their minds to fit in with the culture keep changing him over and over again, that is why believers can not even agree on his basic nature because each of them seem to create him to fit their world view.

His existence does not depend on your recognising him or not.

The day people stop believing in your imaginary god is the day he will cease to exist. He exist only because people believe in him, the day people stop believing in him he will die off like most of the gods before him that have die away.

You can read all the so called best books about whether he exists or not, the only way to know about Him is to open your heart and let him in. And yes, I expect to receive more wise cracks to this.

How did you come to believe in a god? did you not also read the writings of other people telling you about him? have you ever heard any god tell you that he exists? did you not read about what other men wrote about the god they created in their own image?

Generica:
Friend, take care on what you say, how you say it,
In this world, many things are possible and various things are used as symbols. Have you ever asked a man why he holds a picture of his loved one? An engaged lady on why she wears her engagement ring? A king or queen why he/she holds a scepter?Have you not experienced a time when you slept with your arms or legs crossed and you couldnb/tr ruyn fast when you dreamt at night?
Why do hungry people salivate at the mere sight of food? Why do we have to have a role model on what we want tio become in life? Why do succesful people always have the same story to tell on how they focused their attention on a particular thing until it materialised?
God had the earth in mind brfore creating it. He then set to create it. He made in His image and likeness. So we have that pwer to concentrate on some objects and will it to obey our desires. Christians have a better and greater power to do good while those who do not know the mercy and grace of God use theirs to cause havoc here and there.
Furthermore, if some things do not symbolise an idea, action,etc, why then do we sit to have effective reading, lie down to sleep well, kneel or fold our legs to meditate or pray to whatever god we serve if those things do not signify their intentions?

Where is your evidence to show that christians do or have the power to do more good than non christians? You post is so. . . . .

Krayola:
No it isn't. Watch your mouth. I never insulted your God. I heard he turned water to wine. I wonder why he hasn't fed the starvin kids yet. I guess he's busy answering all your prayers. Are you going to tell me about him or what?

Jesus turned water into wine to save the face of a host at a wedding yet he is no where to be found to save the starving christian children in Zimbabwe that are dying due to malnutrition despite the fact that they are calling unto his name day and night for food. Does jesus not love the children in Zimbabwe that are dying because of hunger?

Enjoy

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=the+enemies+of+reason&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#q=the+enemies+of+reason+1&hl=en&emb=0

manmustwac:
Am sure mantra posted this video earlier in the year

I didnt know, very interesting video I must say.

The story of Marjoe

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-178629120699935619

Men created all the gods in their own image and acribed powers unto them to help them cope or try to understand the various complications of life and the world in general.

Marlbron:
Read the bible to see his prophecies especially on Jerusalem and the "end of the world". [b]The fact that Cesar sent for him confirms the bibilical Jesus. [/b]Thats the point you doubted the story, so I gave you another source to explore other than the bible.

How comes the romans have NO record of the historical Jesus? How come that episode only appears in the gospels which happens to be the only books that talk about his life? Jesus meeting with Cesar will definatley be in the roman records but we have nothing like that in the roman records except in the embellished gospels.

wirinet:
Michael Jackson may be physically dead but his memory will remain with us for decades or even millennia  to come. Who know a religion might spring up to worship him 500yrs from now, he might be said to perform miracles by floating across floors without touching it, spinning around faster than a spinning top, and changed his race from black to white at will.

Of course the religionists, especially the Christian variant would happily say he cannot make Heaven, which is reserved for special people that shares their beliefs. It provides for them an euphoric sense of importance and self worth, even if their lives have no purpose and meaning to anybody, save probably their wives and children. It would make them feel more special than the most popular man in the universe - MICHAEL JACKSON.

Michael was not just a star, he was a SUPERNOVA, shining brighter than all the stars in the Galaxy, put together.

Very well said he will never die because he lives in his music.

The extent these wannabe children of the mythical abraham will go to defend the ridiculous stories in their "holy" book of lalala tales is amazing. Abraham married his sister and some goons here is saying that it is not incest . Just like davidylan said that killing the parents and siblings of virgin girls and forcefully marrying them against their will is not rape because they were allowed to mourn their parents for some weeks. How a girl will be happy marrying a man that killed all her family members for no reason at all is what is completely beyond me. How some wannabe descendants of the mythical the abraham will go to the extent of saying that marrying your own sister is not incest is completely beyond me. Abraham married his sister and they had sex. Is that not incest backslider?

1. Who is it
2. Human nature
3. Liberian girl
4. Speechless

He was the greatest EVER.

Chrisbenogor:
haba bindex, you no even wait small self, see as me I dey dodge all this scripture things since how is the flight kini going?
I can only blame who put the books together, they could have just skipped that part of the story and the bible would have made better sense.

The flying school is going on very well, When I become a pilot I will give you a free ride to the caribbean . How you dey?

JeSoul:
Bindex, yeye boy, how have you been?
Now as for your 'question', the answer is in verse 5. I always tell anyone who'll listen, God is just as loving as He is fearful, He dispenses mercy and grace with the same intensity He dispenses wrath and judgement.

Jesoul I dey, hope you won't mind a trip to the caribbean? . How you dey? My best nairaland Christian.

I think he is dead.

Not yet dead.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.html

JeSoul:
This is the biblical standard:
Gal 5:
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law

Lets now look at the story of  Ananias and his wife

Acts 5:1 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 


Act 5:2 With his wife's full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles' feet. 


Act 5:3 Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 


Act 5:4 Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God." 


Act 5:5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. 


Act 5:6 Then the young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him. 


Act 5:7 About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 


Act 5:8 Peter asked her, "Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?" "Yes," she said, "that is the price." 


Act 5:9 Peter said to her, "How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also." 


Act 5:10 At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 


Acts5:11  Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.

Is it the same spirit of love, kindness, forgivness and gentlenes that was being displyed here by jesus(god) and peter his disciple? What is the moral of this story? What does it teach? that people deserve to die for keeping some money that belongs to the bible god? What about the forgiveness that was being talked about by jesus?

Christianity is really a mental illness, I must say.


The Whole Christian Hypothesis.


https://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/Paddywacked/Christianity.jpg

Now you tell me who is mentally Ill? The person that believes this completely ridiculous and unverifiable hypothesis or the person that discards it for the folly that it really is.

huxley2:
The bible says that believers do NOT sin, as in the follower:


1 John 2: 12

I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

Believers DO NOT SIN

1 John 3: 6

Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1 John 5: 18

We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.


But, then again, it says that we all sin


1 John 1: 8-10

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.



So which one is it?

Marlbron:
you have to be careful about the old testament. Do not quote everything from it as if they all apply. Christianity has moved on. We are in the era of the Spirit.

The new testament and the entire Jesus story flat out showed me that it's all just a bunch of make believe fairy tale stuff built upon some existing ideas that the writers of the NT wanted to change.

Noah,Jacob, Issac, Jerimiah, Ezekiel, Elijah and Moses did not need Jesus at all to get to the OT God, but everyone who wants to get to God(NT) now must go through Christ. It's ALL a bunch of B.S. that can't be proven and never will be so therefore,the entire tale is just a happy lucky make believe tale.

Abuzola:
Don't talk to us as if we are ignorant people boy, now u claim God talked to jesus directly without the interval of angel like other Prophets, very good, now u accept that jesus wasn't God but was a holy man of God, i absolutely agree with u

Who the Bleep is mohammed and allah? Don't you know that mohammed is the greatest lair and plaigiarist that ever lived?

Abuzola:
Do atheist have good conscience since they don't believe in reward for good or bad. when doing evil do their heart feel guilty unlike a believer, am wondering ! these are the worst of mankind

What nonsense is this? Do you do good because you need a reward or do you do good because doing good it self is a good thing? How are atheist the worst in mankind? Where is your evidence to show that Muslims are more moral than atheist?

There is FAR less crime of what ever form in Sweden, Denmark, Holland, Finland which are all atheist countries than in so many Islamic countries like Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, Yemen, Morocco, Iraq, Sudan etc

noetic2:
do u have a problem understanding simple english?

have u EVER refuted my claim from ur own knowledge? u SHAMELESSLY use googled up resources to antagonise my statements. So y in God's name should I ever answer ur questions? its called intellectual laziness on ur part.

Is this not the same fool neotic that said this?

noetic2:
I have no problem answering ur questions, but where would u get the refutations from? google? wikipedia? talk-origins?

Are you completely stupid? what kind of a block headed and know nothing airhead are you?

Chrisbenogor:
LOL  
Sometimes you have to workout na what better than a pitbull chasing you  
I tire for the guy oh, na to come nairaland shout shout shout shout say evolution dey wrong, he is just a naive kid that does not want to believe the tooth fairy is not going to get the spaghetti monster this night, LOL  

No mind that slowpoke, the day he writes a scientific paper disproving the TOE and presents it to other scientist(NAS members) is the day I will begin to take him serious, other than that he is just ridiculous blowhard and airhead.

dalaman:
Please make sure you honour your words and provide scientific refutations for them. I don't want to wait for you in vain.

You go wait tire. You will have to give him some hours to visit all the creationist websites.

Chrisbenogor:
I dey brother, I was just giving our Nairaland pitbull a run around, its been long phew! how una dey manage train am here self?

Who has time for that deluded goon. He is all over the place calling himself a scientist but is yet to write a single scientific paper to disprove the theory of evolution and present it to other scientist. He is yet to convince his own christian brothers that have thrown creationism away and embraced evolution that evolution is false. If you ask him to provide one scientific evidence for creationism he will begin to attack evolotion. . What a disturb slowpoke.

davidylan:
If evolution had been a biblical concept you'd be thrashing it right now.

If creationism is a scientific concept you will also be trashing it too.


Chrisbenogor, How body, Hope you are good?

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Why are the SE just running into themselves in the midfield?

Shot the ball Kanu!!!